[cfaussie] Re: Vspider or jspider or something else

2007-01-10 Thread Andrew Scott

Charlie,

I downloaded that program, and although it is feature rich it is lacking a
few keys things that I do require, and as much as I appreciate the pointer
to this, it will not suit our needs here.

* I need the ability to schedule multiple searches, and define when and how
often these schedules run.
* I also need to be able to have an API that will connect into Coldfusion to
have control

As well as the other features I mentioned earlier.


The main problem is that this must be able to search the web, and and any
given urls. And to make it even harder we do not have access to the server
as it is hosted on a shared environment so an API is important as we can not
use cfexecute, although I can get around this but would like to not have to
use that option if I can avoid it.



Andrew Scott
Senior Coldfusion Developer
Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
www.aegeon.com.au
Phone: +613  8676 4223
Mobile: 0404 998 273


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[cfaussie] Re: Vspider or jspider or something else

2007-01-10 Thread Charlie Arehart

Sure, no problem. I'd never used it so was just sharing it for your
consideration.

Given that you're reaching the end of your rope, I'll point out that
BlueDragon has built-in spidering, via CFINDEX (and a new Type=WebSite)
option. You could of course control scheduling using CFSCHEDULE (or the
Admin). That would seem to give you all seek, and the spidering feature is
not limited to just searching the localhost. 

As with CF, there is a free trial (30 day) as well as free developer edition
(no expiration, limited to requests from localhost). There is also the free
Server edition, free for non-commercial deployment, then the Server JX
edition ($899). Not trying to sell BD. Just pointing out an alternative as
you seem to have reached the end of other possibilities.

/Charlie
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Charlie,

I downloaded that program, and although it is feature rich it is lacking a
few keys things that I do require, and as much as I appreciate the pointer
to this, it will not suit our needs here.

* I need the ability to schedule multiple searches, and define when and how
often these schedules run.
* I also need to be able to have an API that will connect into Coldfusion to
have control

As well as the other features I mentioned earlier.


The main problem is that this must be able to search the web, and and any
given urls. And to make it even harder we do not have access to the server
as it is hosted on a shared environment so an API is important as we can not
use cfexecute, although I can get around this but would like to not have to
use that option if I can avoid it.



Andrew Scott
Senior Coldfusion Developer
Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
www.aegeon.com.au
Phone: +613  8676 4223
Mobile: 0404 998 273





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[cfaussie] Re: Vspider or jspider or something else

2007-01-10 Thread Andrew Scott

Charlie,

I think I also stated that I do not have access to the server, and that this
is on a shared host so although I appreciate you pointing me to BD this is
not supported on this Hosting :-(

Well I guess I will have to write it then, I just didn't want to waste time
writing a HTML parser etc and scrape the forms from the websites if
something already existed.


Andrew Scott
Senior Coldfusion Developer
Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
www.aegeon.com.au
Phone: +613  8676 4223
Mobile: 0404 998 273


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[cfaussie] Re: Vspider or jspider or something else

2007-01-10 Thread Haikal Saadh

No one's brought up using Lucene yet?
http://lucene.apache.org/java/docs/features.html

Andrew Scott wrote:
 Charlie,

 I think I also stated that I do not have access to the server, and that this
 is on a shared host so although I appreciate you pointing me to BD this is
 not supported on this Hosting :-(

 Well I guess I will have to write it then, I just didn't want to waste time
 writing a HTML parser etc and scrape the forms from the websites if
 something already existed.


 Andrew Scott
 Senior Coldfusion Developer
 Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
 www.aegeon.com.au
 Phone: +613  8676 4223
 Mobile: 0404 998 273


 
   

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[cfaussie] Re: Vspider or jspider or something else

2007-01-10 Thread Andrew Scott

Yes Charlie did :-)


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[cfaussie] Re: Vspider or jspider or something else

2007-01-10 Thread George Lu
Hi Andrew,

Sorry I can't help you with your situation. However I've got some questions
about vspider. I've tried to use it to index my intranet site using command
line but it didn't work. How cfexceute can be used for vspider?

George

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 Yes Charlie did :-)


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 www.aegeon.com.au
 Phone: +613  8676 4223
 Mobile: 0404 998 273



 



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[cfaussie] Re: Vspider or jspider or something else

2007-01-10 Thread Andrew Scott
George,

 

Sorry I can't really answer that question as I have not used vpsider as yet.
But what I have read is that vspider will only work on the machine it is
installed on. Other than that I have no real clue, as soon as I read that I
stopped reading.


Andrew Scott
Senior Coldfusion Developer
Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
www.aegeon.com.au
Phone: +613  8676 4223
Mobile: 0404 998 273

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Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Vspider or jspider or something else

 

Hi Andrew,

Sorry I can't help you with your situation. However I've got some questions
about vspider. I've tried to use it to index my intranet site using command
line but it didn't work. How cfexceute can be used for vspider? 

George

On 11/01/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Yes Charlie did :-)


Andrew Scott
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Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
www.aegeon.com.au
Phone: +613  8676 4223
Mobile: 0404 998 273







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[cfaussie] Re: Vspider or jspider or something else

2007-01-10 Thread Charlie Arehart
Well, the vspider utility is a command line tool. It's at
C:\CFusionMX7\verity\k2\_nti40\bin\vspider.exe (or
C:\CFusionMX\lib\_nti40\bin\vspider.exe).
 
And CFEXECUTE can be used to call any command line tool. Are you asking for
more than that?
 
You can find more info on it at:
 
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/h
tml/wwhelp.htm?context=ColdFusion_Documentation
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/
html/wwhelp.htm?context=ColdFusion_Documentationfile=1781.htm
file=1781.htm
 
/Charlie
http://www.carehart.org/blog/  

 


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Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Vspider or jspider or something else


Hi Andrew,

Sorry I can't help you with your situation. However I've got some questions
about vspider. I've tried to use it to index my intranet site using command
line but it didn't work. How cfexceute can be used for vspider? 

George 


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[cfaussie] Re: Vspider or jspider or something else

2007-01-10 Thread Charlie Arehart

Sorry. I'd just missed that. Hope it may help someone else in the future. 

Before you give up, is this a public site? Are you aware of the Google
site search feature? That would be free. I blogged about it (from a
slightly different perspective) at:

http://www.tipicalcharlie.com/no_search_mechanism_on_a_site_never_fear_googl
e_is_hear.htm

Also, I'm pretty sure they offer an engine you can bundle (don't know if
it's free).

(Sorry if I'm not remembering some detail of your requirements that would
obviate any of these tools' use).

/Charlie
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Charlie,

I think I also stated that I do not have access to the server, and that this
is on a shared host so although I appreciate you pointing me to BD this is
not supported on this Hosting :-(

Well I guess I will have to write it then, I just didn't want to waste time
writing a HTML parser etc and scrape the forms from the websites if
something already existed.


Andrew Scott
Senior Coldfusion Developer
Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
www.aegeon.com.au
Phone: +613  8676 4223
Mobile: 0404 998 273





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[cfaussie] Re: Vspider or jspider or something else

2007-01-10 Thread Joel
Hi,

from what i recall.. it been a while since i have done this...

if you have the site setup locally on a dev machine, run vspider on it and 
create the colloection via vspider and than upload the collection to the shared 
hosting server.

and call it via the cfsearch tag .eg cfsearch external=Yes 
note : in cfmx 7 external tag has been depreciated since its suppose to detect 
external or internal collections automatically.

you might have to ask your host to create a collection in cfadmin by pointing 
to your uploaded collection.
make sure the 2 CF server versions are the same.

just my 2 cents worth.

hth
Joel
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  Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 2:13 PM
  Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Vspider or jspider or something else


  George,

   

  Sorry I can't really answer that question as I have not used vpsider as yet. 
But what I have read is that vspider will only work on the machine it is 
installed on. Other than that I have no real clue, as soon as I read that I 
stopped reading.


  Andrew Scott
  Senior Coldfusion Developer
  Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
  www.aegeon.com.au
  Phone: +613  8676 4223
  Mobile: 0404 998 273


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Lu
  Sent: Thursday, 11 January 2007 2:01 PM
  To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Vspider or jspider or something else

   

  Hi Andrew,

  Sorry I can't help you with your situation. However I've got some questions 
about vspider. I've tried to use it to index my intranet site using command 
line but it didn't work. How cfexceute can be used for vspider? 

  George

  On 11/01/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Yes Charlie did :-)


  Andrew Scott
  Senior Coldfusion Developer
  Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
  www.aegeon.com.au
  Phone: +613  8676 4223
  Mobile: 0404 998 273







  


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