[cfaussie] Unused Files
I'm looking for something that I can run that will tell me the following, I appreciate its getting harder down the list, but covering any of these points would be good 1. Unused cfm / cfc 2. Unused assets images etc 3. Methods Not called in cfc 4. Variables not used within methods The reason is we have a big legacy application that we are looking to move into the cloud, and I'd ideally only like to move things that are being used. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com http://flexcf.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Unused Files
Hi Dale, how dynamic is the site? A modified sitemap tool might work for most of that if things are fairly static. Walk through the site building a huge map of all links and then see what you have that is not on the list. On 21/12/2011 9:34 PM, Dale Fraser wrote: I’m looking for something that I can run that will tell me the following, I appreciate its getting harder down the list, but covering any of these points would be good 1.Unused cfm / cfc 2.Unused assets images etc 3.Methods Not called in cfc 4.Variables not used within methods The reason is we have a big legacy application that we are looking to move into the cloud, and I’d ideally only like to move things that are being used. Regards Dale Fraser -- Yours, Kym Kovan mbcomms.net.au -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
RE: [cfaussie] Unused Files
It's mostly code, cfm's and cfc's Its more of an application than a site, so I need something that can find if the .cfms are linked to included etc and if the cfc's are invoked or created I realise its not going to be perfect, figured I could write something like this but someone probably already has. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kym Kovan Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 9:57 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Unused Files Hi Dale, how dynamic is the site? A modified sitemap tool might work for most of that if things are fairly static. Walk through the site building a huge map of all links and then see what you have that is not on the list. On 21/12/2011 9:34 PM, Dale Fraser wrote: I'm looking for something that I can run that will tell me the following, I appreciate its getting harder down the list, but covering any of these points would be good 1.Unused cfm / cfc 2.Unused assets images etc 3.Methods Not called in cfc 4.Variables not used within methods The reason is we have a big legacy application that we are looking to move into the cloud, and I'd ideally only like to move things that are being used. Regards Dale Fraser -- Yours, Kym Kovan mbcomms.net.au -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
RE: [cfaussie] Unused Files
I found this, But its pretty basic http://deadwood.riaforge.org/ Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kym Kovan Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 9:57 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Unused Files Hi Dale, how dynamic is the site? A modified sitemap tool might work for most of that if things are fairly static. Walk through the site building a huge map of all links and then see what you have that is not on the list. On 21/12/2011 9:34 PM, Dale Fraser wrote: I'm looking for something that I can run that will tell me the following, I appreciate its getting harder down the list, but covering any of these points would be good 1.Unused cfm / cfc 2.Unused assets images etc 3.Methods Not called in cfc 4.Variables not used within methods The reason is we have a big legacy application that we are looking to move into the cloud, and I'd ideally only like to move things that are being used. Regards Dale Fraser -- Yours, Kym Kovan mbcomms.net.au -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
RE: [cfaussie] CF Temp files
Glad to help, and thanks for the update. I will be curious to know if the files are in fact the result of image processing. It's not necessarily definitely another source, as some cfimage processing involves no creation of temp files. BTW, my last point about looking at the files should help here, to see just what kind of files these are. At least, if they don't have the look of some image filetype, that may help direct your additional investigation. But yes, as for possible error handling hiding the real root cause, note that if there's some global or application-level handling, it would be pretty easy to remove it, even if just temporarily. If you observe how often these files are created, and find they are created really often, then it wouldn't take long to leave the error handling off to find out what's happening. (And note that you don't need to be the user running the page that gets the error, to see the error. It would be logged in the application.log.) No offense intended if you already were aware of the above. I never presume what even experienced people may know. Some never dabble much in error handling, for instance. Also, when I offer answers on lists, I am as often answering for other readers, who may benefit from a little more context. It makes my notes a tad longer (and that frustrates some), but I hope the benefit outweighs the risk. :-) Indeed, thanks for your kind regards on my having surmised things. /charlie From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brett Payne-Rhodes Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 10:20 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] CF Temp files Thanks Charlie, As usual you have surmissed much of what is going on quite accurately. There is no danger of this being a DoS attack, the system in question is effectively closed to the outside world. And the system does have a significant amount of activity in terms of files being uploaded. In addition, all images are 'served' via a CF script using CFIMAGE that will most definitely be another source of these temporary files. And given the volume of work being carried out it does not surprise me that so many temporary files are being created. In terms of the log files, I don't see a lot of activity there, especially with regard to file uploads and image serving but then they are wrapped up in cftry/cfcatch so we are not going to know about it via error logging. Which could suggest the issue is hidden. Maybe the 'delete' permission has been removed without us knowing about it? That would mean the temporary files could not be removed and the try/catch would be hiding it from us seeing it as a problem until the disk fills up. Thanks again Charlie, most hlepful! Cheers, Brett B) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
RE: [cfaussie] Unused Files
Besides the ideas shared so far, I have another couple of thoughts. That said, neither is the perfect answer for you, nor is there one to be honest. There's been talk of such code coverage tools for CF, but to date none exist (as far as I know). As for what CFM and assets are accessed, you could determine that somewhat using web server logs. Of course, they don't offer the absolute path, only a web-relative one, and if you have multiple sites that could make things harder. Of course, that won't help you see CFCs called (from within CFML, though you would see CFCs called remotely, such as via web services or from ajax, etc.) You'd need to do such log analysis over a fairly long time period to increase the confidence of your resulting conclusion. You could also get an approximation of calls to CFM and CFCs (including internally called CFCs) by way of the cfclasses directory (within the [CF]\wwwroot\WEB-INF\ directory). If you have the CF Admin set to save class files, then whenever a CFM or CFC is called, a class file is created for it (in the case of CFCs, a class is created for every method within the CFC-not every method called, but every method that exists within it, which will not help with your point 3 of course). As for the accuracy of the data that would show, you could base your decision (on what to consider has been used) either by what you see in that directory today (which may reflect months or years of calls), or you may want to clear it out and run for some period of time to see a more recent reflection of what's called. /charlie From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 5:35 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Unused Files I'm looking for something that I can run that will tell me the following, I appreciate its getting harder down the list, but covering any of these points would be good 1. Unused cfm / cfc 2. Unused assets images etc 3. Methods Not called in cfc 4. Variables not used within methods The reason is we have a big legacy application that we are looking to move into the cloud, and I'd ideally only like to move things that are being used. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Unused Files
Actually a tool like this would not be hard to write, the only downside is that it would take a very long time to run in CFML though. It would be a very good candidate as an extension to CFBuilder, the images would be just find all with known image extensions and search for known links in the files. Not found then flag it as such. Methods would be a matter of just getting the metadata for the CFC and then searching for that method being used. Not sure how long it would take on the size of a large application, like Dale is thinking of running it on, but it would be down to the amount of files and methods that would have to be recursed on each file. -- Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/108193156965451149543 On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 2:50 AM, charlie arehart charlie_li...@carehart.org wrote: Besides the ideas shared so far, I have another couple of thoughts. That said, neither is the perfect answer for you, nor is there one to be honest. There’s been talk of such “code coverage” tools for CF, but to date none exist (as far as I know). As for what CFM and assets are accessed, you could determine that somewhat using web server logs. Of course, they don’t offer the absolute path, only a web-relative one, and if you have multiple sites that could make things harder. Of course, that won’t help you see CFCs called (from within CFML, though you would see CFCs called remotely, such as via web services or from ajax, etc.) You’d need to do such log analysis over a fairly long time period to increase the confidence of your resulting conclusion. You could also get an approximation of calls to CFM and CFCs (including internally called CFCs) by way of the cfclasses directory (within the [CF]\wwwroot\WEB-INF\ directory). If you have the CF Admin set to “save class files”, then whenever a CFM or CFC is called, a class file is created for it (in the case of CFCs, a class is created for every method within the CFC—not every method called, but every method that exists within it, which will not help with your point 3 of course). As for the accuracy of the data that would show, you could base your decision (on what to consider “has been used”) either by what you see in that directory today (which may reflect months or years of calls), or you may want to clear it out and run for some period of time to see a more recent reflection of what’s called. ** ** /charlie ** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
[cfaussie] Incompatible Jars
Hi People I have a java api I am using. I was hoping to invoke it natively via CF (running 9). The api uses about 40 common type apache jars, several of which are also used by CF. Problem is when I dump these in CF9/lib I get errors due to CF wanting to use diff versions than the api I am using. I was wondering if there was a way with CF to somehow specify that a certain created object uses a certain classpath/set of packages rather than inheriting all the CF ones. If I am just going about this all the wrong way feel free to highlight my ignorance. thanks in advance Drew Peacock -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Incompatible Jars
is that what javaLoader does? http://javaloader.riaforge.org/ On 22 December 2011 08:49, skateboard.com.au w...@skateboard.com.au wrote: Hi People I have a java api I am using. I was hoping to invoke it natively via CF (running 9). The api uses about 40 common type apache jars, several of which are also used by CF. Problem is when I dump these in CF9/lib I get errors due to CF wanting to use diff versions than the api I am using. I was wondering if there was a way with CF to somehow specify that a certain created object uses a certain classpath/set of packages rather than inheriting all the CF ones. If I am just going about this all the wrong way feel free to highlight my ignorance. thanks in advance Drew Peacock -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- *AJ Mercer* webonix:net strength=Industrial / http://webonix.net | webonix:org community=Open / http://webonix.org http://twitter.com/webonix Railo Community Manager http://www.getrailo.org/index.cfm/community/team/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Incompatible Jars
Beat me to it :) Sent from my mobile doohickey. On Dec 22, 2011 11:52 AM, AJ Mercer ajmer...@gmail.com wrote: is that what javaLoader does? http://javaloader.riaforge.org/ On 22 December 2011 08:49, skateboard.com.au w...@skateboard.com.auwrote: Hi People I have a java api I am using. I was hoping to invoke it natively via CF (running 9). The api uses about 40 common type apache jars, several of which are also used by CF. Problem is when I dump these in CF9/lib I get errors due to CF wanting to use diff versions than the api I am using. I was wondering if there was a way with CF to somehow specify that a certain created object uses a certain classpath/set of packages rather than inheriting all the CF ones. If I am just going about this all the wrong way feel free to highlight my ignorance. thanks in advance Drew Peacock -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- *AJ Mercer* webonix:net strength=Industrial / http://webonix.net | webonix:org community=Open / http://webonix.org http://twitter.com/webonix Railo Community Managerhttp://www.getrailo.org/index.cfm/community/team/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Incompatible Jars
Thanks fellas... trying that out seems to be doing the trick for the most part.. but its spitting out Could not instantiate ORB implementation: org.jacorb.orb.ORB I'm calling another jar which uses this package.. Jacorb.jar is being loaded into to the classloader with the actual jar I'm calling. thanks Drew -Original Message- From: AJ Mercer ajmer...@gmail.com To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 08:52:17 +0800 Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Incompatible Jars is that what javaLoader does? http://javaloader.riaforge.org/ On 22 December 2011 08:49, skateboard.com.au w...@skateboard.com.au wrote: Hi People I have a java api I am using. I was hoping to invoke it natively via CF (running 9). The api uses about 40 common type apache jars, several of which are also used by CF. Problem is when I dump these in CF9/lib I get errors due to CF wanting to use diff versions than the api I am using. I was wondering if there was a way with CF to somehow specify that a certain created object uses a certain classpath/set of packages rather than inheriting all the CF ones. If I am just going about this all the wrong way feel free to highlight my ignorance. thanks in advance Drew Peacock -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- *AJ Mercer* webonix:net strength=Industrial / http://webonix.net | webonix:org community=Open / http://webonix.org http://twitter.com/webonix Railo Community Manager http://www.getrailo.org/index.cfm/community/team/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
