[cfaussie] CFObjective ANZ

2010-08-04 Thread Gavin Baumanis
So,

Anyone here planning on going to any of the pre-conference workshops?

I'm still trying to get the powers to be - to agree to send me to
Charlie's CF Server admin workshop.
While most of charlie's information is available on his website and on
the mailing lists he loiters upon there's nothing quite like being
able to ask specfic questions and get specific answers on the spot.

Gavin.

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Re: [cfaussie] CFObjective ANZ

2010-08-04 Thread Barry Beattie
and to back you up in what you say, Gavin, a classic case is formal
study. When I was teaching, I tried to impress on the students, that
although all the info was - in theory - out there ready to tap into,
what was lost was structure and context. Sometimes it needed the
expert to deliver it in a way for people to have the epiphany.

and of course, there's the followup questions that are sometimes invaluable.

I heard a story of a guest lecturer traveling around giving guest
spots, who had a driver/PA on tour with him.

After a while the driver said what you do is easy! I reckon I can do
that - I've heard the same lecture enough times.

so they made a pact that the next stop they would swap roles and the
driver would give the lecture.

Sure enough the driver did a good job regurgitating the same script
... until someone in the audience asked a pointed question. The guy
kept his cool, trying to hide he wasn't the guest lecturer.

what a silly question he said. So, silly that, in fact, I'm going
to let my driver answer that question!

context, and expert advice, is everything.




On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Gavin Baumanis beauecli...@gmail.com wrote:
 So,

 Anyone here planning on going to any of the pre-conference workshops?

 I'm still trying to get the powers to be - to agree to send me to
 Charlie's CF Server admin workshop.
 While most of charlie's information is available on his website and on
 the mailing lists he loiters upon there's nothing quite like being
 able to ask specfic questions and get specific answers on the spot.

 Gavin.

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Re: [cfaussie] CFObjective ANZ

2010-08-04 Thread Terry Sasaki
I have booked Charlie's one. I want to learn that topic in kinda structured way.

- Terry

On 4 August 2010 18:19, Barry Beattie barry.beat...@gmail.com wrote:
 and to back you up in what you say, Gavin, a classic case is formal
 study. When I was teaching, I tried to impress on the students, that
 although all the info was - in theory - out there ready to tap into,
 what was lost was structure and context. Sometimes it needed the
 expert to deliver it in a way for people to have the epiphany.

 and of course, there's the followup questions that are sometimes invaluable.

 I heard a story of a guest lecturer traveling around giving guest
 spots, who had a driver/PA on tour with him.

 After a while the driver said what you do is easy! I reckon I can do
 that - I've heard the same lecture enough times.

 so they made a pact that the next stop they would swap roles and the
 driver would give the lecture.

 Sure enough the driver did a good job regurgitating the same script
 ... until someone in the audience asked a pointed question. The guy
 kept his cool, trying to hide he wasn't the guest lecturer.

 what a silly question he said. So, silly that, in fact, I'm going
 to let my driver answer that question!

 context, and expert advice, is everything.




 On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Gavin Baumanis beauecli...@gmail.com wrote:
 So,

 Anyone here planning on going to any of the pre-conference workshops?

 I'm still trying to get the powers to be - to agree to send me to
 Charlie's CF Server admin workshop.
 While most of charlie's information is available on his website and on
 the mailing lists he loiters upon there's nothing quite like being
 able to ask specfic questions and get specific answers on the spot.

 Gavin.

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Re: [cfaussie] CFObjective ANZ

2010-08-04 Thread Gavin Beau Baumanis

On 04/08/2010, at 6:19 PM, Barry Beattie wrote:

 and to back you up in what you say, Gavin, a classic case is formal
 study. When I was teaching, I tried to impress on the students, that
 although all the info was - in theory - out there ready to tap into,
 what was lost was structure and context. Sometimes it needed the
 expert to deliver it in a way for people to have the epiphany.
 
 and of course, there's the followup questions that are sometimes invaluable.
 

I find that at the CFUGs.
It's the questions after the presentation where it really clicks for me.


 I heard a story of a guest lecturer traveling around giving guest
 spots, who had a driver/PA on tour with him.
 
 After a while the driver said what you do is easy! I reckon I can do
 that - I've heard the same lecture enough times.
 
 so they made a pact that the next stop they would swap roles and the
 driver would give the lecture.
 
 Sure enough the driver did a good job regurgitating the same script
 ... until someone in the audience asked a pointed question. The guy
 kept his cool, trying to hide he wasn't the guest lecturer.
 
 what a silly question he said. So, silly that, in fact, I'm going
 to let my driver answer that question!
 

Ha ha ha... That is quite funny... I'll have to try and remember that one!

Gavin.

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RE: [cfaussie] CFObjective ANZ

2010-08-04 Thread charlie arehart
Thanks for the support, guys. I look forward to trying to meet your 
expectations! :-)

/charlie


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 I have booked Charlie's one. I want to learn that topic in kinda structured 
 way.
 
 - Terry
 
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Re: [cfaussie] CFObjective ANZ

2010-08-04 Thread Mark Drew
That story really made my day :)

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On 4 Aug 2010, at 09:19, Barry Beattie wrote:

 
 I heard a story of a guest lecturer traveling around giving guest
 spots, who had a driver/PA on tour with him.
 
 After a while the driver said what you do is easy! I reckon I can do
 that - I've heard the same lecture enough times.
 
 so they made a pact that the next stop they would swap roles and the
 driver would give the lecture.
 
 Sure enough the driver did a good job regurgitating the same script
 ... until someone in the audience asked a pointed question. The guy
 kept his cool, trying to hide he wasn't the guest lecturer.
 
 what a silly question he said. So, silly that, in fact, I'm going
 to let my driver answer that question!

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