Re: [cfaussie] OT: Shameless plug from a legacy lurker, but input and feedback on enw CF site welcome
You got the label wrong for Q19_2 tdinput name=Q19 id=*Q19_2* value=2 type=radio/td tdlabel for=*Q19_*I believe it is more important to be gentle than firm/label/td dfawe On 15/05/10 18:54, Chad Renando wrote: Perhaps that will be my next assignment. What programming Framework are you? Me thinks the audience would be a bit niche, but vocal. Chad who goes for a two-story framework, but the occasional Queenslander or brick granny-flat also does the trick On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Kym Kovan dev-li...@mbcomms.net.au mailto:dev-li...@mbcomms.net.au wrote: On 15/05/2010 6:21 PM, Steve Onnis wrote: Nope its not what matters. If it was then we wouldn't have framwork pushers now would we :P Steve! That's sacrilege! :-) As a non-framework person, except our own of course, I enjoy the various folk that have decided to use one framework rather than another and then get evangelistic about it. But frameworks rule!(according to the fans) In reality I have always had dilemmas about frameworks, none cover all bases so you need to know more than one and then why bother?. I was impressed with FW/1 with its description at WebDU last week, so Phil you have to keep up the good work, as a tool to have a non-interventionist framework but we had the problem recently in terms of a tool we have been using in-house for many years now, our own CMS. We have decided to go Open Source with it but like all internal products it is full of all sorts of silly stuff and in our case it was used in the early days by our trainees to hone their CF skills so has some seriously silly things there. In the years since then it has evolved and is now used for some serious websites but as it grew we felt we were following down the same path that FarCry followed, a CMS that turned into a framework. So we have steered away from that: we are not a framework! :-) FarCry is great, why duplicate it? Well we didn't, it is not a framework (INAF, can I copyright that?). We call the beast SLCMS (choose you own acronym for the SL bit but officially it is Simple Light (from a users perspective)) and even though we have not yet released it yet as Open Source in the sense that we are still tidying it up in our spare time you can find it at: http://svn.slcms.net/codebase/ (having watched the brilliant session on git at WebDU we have just moved to Mercurial (interesting how one thing leads to another) but we will keep the SVN version current once we get to a release version.) Chad, see what you have started? You haven't changed :-) -- Yours, Kym Kovan mbcomms.net.au http://mbcomms.net.au/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] OT: Shameless plug from a legacy lurker, but input and feedback on enw CF site welcome
On 15/05/2010, at 6:48 PM, Kym Kovan wrote: Well we didn't, it is not a framework (INAF, can I copyright that?) Sure, but I reserved the phrases Clayton's ColdFusion Frameworks and the tag-line: The framework you have when you're not having a framework during my 2006 Webdu presentation on why CF frameworks should be lighter, intervene less in people's code and not have big XML configuration files when we already have a lovely tag-based markup language that can be used in a declarative way if you like. Robin (Who's next big tech trend prediction is that big jackets will make a comeback in 2014 with touch - displays build into the arms, and Apple will capture the market with a device called shoulderPad) ROBIN HILLIARD Chief Technology Officer ro...@rocketboots.com.au RocketBoots Pty Ltd Level 11 189 Kent Street Sydney NSW 2001 Australia Phone +61 2 9323 2507 Facsimile +61 2 9323 2501 Mobile +61 418 414 341 www.rocketboots.com.au -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
[cfaussie] OT: Shameless plug from a legacy lurker, but input and feedback on enw CF site welcome
Hi all, I highly doubt anyone here remembers me from my programming days going a decade back when we entertained ourselves with .NET vs CF flame wars. While I am now a production manager in studio that is well and truly focused on .NET, I still have personal fondness for the CF language and community. I recently dusted off my own skills as part of a personal research project for Uni. This is so off topic it is not even funny, relative only in that it is another Cold Fusion site unleashed upon the world. I am confident this board in general would turn its nose up at my code, but for the most part it does the job. Obviously, any recommendations, questions or feedback would be most welcome. Without further ado... www.mypizzapersonality.com. Thanks for listening. Back to trying to remember how to query of query... umm Chad who first started referring to himself in third person in the CF user group -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] OT: Shameless plug from a legacy lurker, but input and feedback on enw CF site welcome
qoq? cfquery name=q_whatever dbtype=query /cfquery :) do that in .NET :) On 15 May 2010 17:06, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: still using table layouts hey chad? From: Chad Renando [mailto:chad.rena...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 15 May 2010 5:02 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] OT: Shameless plug from a legacy lurker, but input and feedback on enw CF site welcome Hi all, I highly doubt anyone here remembers me from my programming days going a decade back when we entertained ourselves with .NET vs CF flame wars. While I am now a production manager in studio that is well and truly focused on .NET, I still have personal fondness for the CF language and community. I recently dusted off my own skills as part of a personal research project for Uni. This is so off topic it is not even funny, relative only in that it is another Cold Fusion site unleashed upon the world. I am confident this board in general would turn its nose up at my code, but for the most part it does the job. Obviously, any recommendations, questions or feedback would be most welcome. Without further ado... www.mypizzapersonality.com. Thanks for listening. Back to trying to remember how to query of query... umm Chad who first started referring to himself in third person in the CF user group -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- Zac Spitzer Solution Architect / Director Ennoble Consultancy Australia http://www.ennoble.com.au http://zacster.blogspot.com +61 405 847 168 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] OT: Shameless plug from a legacy lurker, but input and feedback on enw CF site welcome
I know I am going to hate myself for saying this in the morning but, .NET does have Linq now and it does do a good aproximation of Query of queries L. On 15/05/2010, at 5:08 PM, Zac Spitzer zac.spit...@gmail.com wrote: qoq? cfquery name=q_whatever dbtype=query /cfquery :) do that in .NET :) On 15 May 2010 17:06, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: still using table layouts hey chad? From: Chad Renando [mailto:chad.rena...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 15 May 2010 5:02 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] OT: Shameless plug from a legacy lurker, but input and feedback on enw CF site welcome Hi all, I highly doubt anyone here remembers me from my programming days going a decade back when we entertained ourselves with .NET vs CF flame wars. While I am now a production manager in studio that is well and truly focused on .NET, I still have personal fondness for the CF language and community. I recently dusted off my own skills as part of a personal research project for Uni. This is so off topic it is not even funny, relative only in that it is another Cold Fusion site unleashed upon the world. I am confident this board in general would turn its nose up at my code, but for the most part it does the job. Obviously, any recommendations, questions or feedback would be most welcome. Without further ado... www.mypizzapersonality.com. Thanks for listening. Back to trying to remember how to query of query... umm Chad who first started referring to himself in third person in the CF user group -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- Zac Spitzer Solution Architect / Director Ennoble Consultancy Australia http://www.ennoble.com.au http://zacster.blogspot.com +61 405 847 168 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] OT: Shameless plug from a legacy lurker, but input and feedback on enw CF site welcome
Perhaps that will be my next assignment. What programming Framework are you? Me thinks the audience would be a bit niche, but vocal. Chad who goes for a two-story framework, but the occasional Queenslander or brick granny-flat also does the trick On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Kym Kovan dev-li...@mbcomms.net.au wrote: On 15/05/2010 6:21 PM, Steve Onnis wrote: Nope its not what matters. If it was then we wouldn't have framwork pushers now would we :P Steve! That's sacrilege! :-) As a non-framework person, except our own of course, I enjoy the various folk that have decided to use one framework rather than another and then get evangelistic about it. But frameworks rule!(according to the fans) In reality I have always had dilemmas about frameworks, none cover all bases so you need to know more than one and then why bother?. I was impressed with FW/1 with its description at WebDU last week, so Phil you have to keep up the good work, as a tool to have a non-interventionist framework but we had the problem recently in terms of a tool we have been using in-house for many years now, our own CMS. We have decided to go Open Source with it but like all internal products it is full of all sorts of silly stuff and in our case it was used in the early days by our trainees to hone their CF skills so has some seriously silly things there. In the years since then it has evolved and is now used for some serious websites but as it grew we felt we were following down the same path that FarCry followed, a CMS that turned into a framework. So we have steered away from that: we are not a framework! :-) FarCry is great, why duplicate it? Well we didn't, it is not a framework (INAF, can I copyright that?). We call the beast SLCMS (choose you own acronym for the SL bit but officially it is Simple Light (from a users perspective)) and even though we have not yet released it yet as Open Source in the sense that we are still tidying it up in our spare time you can find it at: http://svn.slcms.net/codebase/ (having watched the brilliant session on git at WebDU we have just moved to Mercurial (interesting how one thing leads to another) but we will keep the SVN version current once we get to a release version.) Chad, see what you have started? You haven't changed :-) -- Yours, Kym Kovan mbcomms.net.au -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcfaussie%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
RE: [cfaussie] OT: Shameless plug from a legacy lurker, but input and feedback on enw CF site welcome
Hahahahah Was just having a dig :) -Original Message- From: Kym Kovan [mailto:dev-li...@mbcomms.net.au] Sent: Saturday, 15 May 2010 6:49 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] OT: Shameless plug from a legacy lurker, but input and feedback on enw CF site welcome On 15/05/2010 6:21 PM, Steve Onnis wrote: Nope its not what matters. If it was then we wouldn't have framwork pushers now would we :P Steve! That's sacrilege! :-) As a non-framework person, except our own of course, I enjoy the various folk that have decided to use one framework rather than another and then get evangelistic about it. But frameworks rule!(according to the fans) In reality I have always had dilemmas about frameworks, none cover all bases so you need to know more than one and then why bother?. I was impressed with FW/1 with its description at WebDU last week, so Phil you have to keep up the good work, as a tool to have a non-interventionist framework but we had the problem recently in terms of a tool we have been using in-house for many years now, our own CMS. We have decided to go Open Source with it but like all internal products it is full of all sorts of silly stuff and in our case it was used in the early days by our trainees to hone their CF skills so has some seriously silly things there. In the years since then it has evolved and is now used for some serious websites but as it grew we felt we were following down the same path that FarCry followed, a CMS that turned into a framework. So we have steered away from that: we are not a framework! :-) FarCry is great, why duplicate it? Well we didn't, it is not a framework (INAF, can I copyright that?). We call the beast SLCMS (choose you own acronym for the SL bit but officially it is Simple Light (from a users perspective)) and even though we have not yet released it yet as Open Source in the sense that we are still tidying it up in our spare time you can find it at: http://svn.slcms.net/codebase/ (having watched the brilliant session on git at WebDU we have just moved to Mercurial (interesting how one thing leads to another) but we will keep the SVN version current once we get to a release version.) Chad, see what you have started? You haven't changed :-) -- Yours, Kym Kovan mbcomms.net.au -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
RE: [cfaussie] OT: Shameless plug from a legacy lurker, but input and feedback on enw CF site welcome
Hey Chad, Glad to hear you are still lurking. Transformed to managing .NET but still choose to write CF interesting. Perhaps you should show your team CF and see if they might use it Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaus...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Onnis Sent: Saturday, 15 May 2010 6:56 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [cfaussie] OT: Shameless plug from a legacy lurker, but input and feedback on enw CF site welcome Hahahahah Was just having a dig :) -Original Message- From: Kym Kovan [mailto:dev-li...@mbcomms.net.au] Sent: Saturday, 15 May 2010 6:49 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] OT: Shameless plug from a legacy lurker, but input and feedback on enw CF site welcome On 15/05/2010 6:21 PM, Steve Onnis wrote: Nope its not what matters. If it was then we wouldn't have framwork pushers now would we :P Steve! That's sacrilege! :-) As a non-framework person, except our own of course, I enjoy the various folk that have decided to use one framework rather than another and then get evangelistic about it. But frameworks rule!(according to the fans) In reality I have always had dilemmas about frameworks, none cover all bases so you need to know more than one and then why bother?. I was impressed with FW/1 with its description at WebDU last week, so Phil you have to keep up the good work, as a tool to have a non-interventionist framework but we had the problem recently in terms of a tool we have been using in-house for many years now, our own CMS. We have decided to go Open Source with it but like all internal products it is full of all sorts of silly stuff and in our case it was used in the early days by our trainees to hone their CF skills so has some seriously silly things there. In the years since then it has evolved and is now used for some serious websites but as it grew we felt we were following down the same path that FarCry followed, a CMS that turned into a framework. So we have steered away from that: we are not a framework! :-) FarCry is great, why duplicate it? Well we didn't, it is not a framework (INAF, can I copyright that?). We call the beast SLCMS (choose you own acronym for the SL bit but officially it is Simple Light (from a users perspective)) and even though we have not yet released it yet as Open Source in the sense that we are still tidying it up in our spare time you can find it at: http://svn.slcms.net/codebase/ (having watched the brilliant session on git at WebDU we have just moved to Mercurial (interesting how one thing leads to another) but we will keep the SVN version current once we get to a release version.) Chad, see what you have started? You haven't changed :-) -- Yours, Kym Kovan mbcomms.net.au -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
