[cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices
Ok. The mission you are about to undertake Jeremy is evil..in it's purist form.. kidding. Really its not as scary as one would believe, it's a case of making sure you are sending the right metadata to connect initially and then be mindful of the fact that certain types have issues around translating accross the SOAP divide. eg: Array of Strings has issues in how Java vs .NET agree (ahh to have a universal format would be nice.. REST vs SOAP discussion apply here). It's hard to give you an accurate forecast on your pain without seeing the bits, but I will partially agree that you're essentially putting your thumb on the desk, hitting it with a hammer and that's less likely to cause you pain then this mission put forward. It maybe a Coffee in the CBD chat, ping me offline and we can have lunch and tell each other tall stories about whether OSX is better than Vista (my money is on BeOS making a strong comeback.. mark my words, she's the dark horse...) --- Scott Barnes Your Friendly RIA Evangelist Microsoft. On Dec 29, 2007 9:31 PM, Mark Ireland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh Yeah. I think they wish they had created a large java app. They really think they could do a better job of coding a server application language. -- Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:03:37 +1100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Interesting point about Java developers. I have come across that more than once where Java developers try their best to kill off ColdFusio. Why? Are they afraid that they will be shown up? Anyone else found that. Simon On 30/11/2007, *Barry Beattie* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and life may not be that simple... ... I know a place that has enterprise-wide CF enterprise licenses for CF7 ... and yet some poor sods there were still working on CF5 systems. sometimes it comes down to the migration process, the QA ... maybe even the politics from a .NET or Java group within the enterprise trying to kill off their CF rivals ... On Nov 30, 2007 2:05 PM, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come on Brett, Never let the details get in the way of a good post ;) Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Brett Payne-Rhodes Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 2:37 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices I don't think you can assume that it is a $600 upgrade. Could be enterprise. Could be clustered. And I'm not even sure there is an upgrade from CF5 to CF8? That isn't to say that your point isn't a valid one. What IS the cost of the upgrade compared to the $s spent trying to make it work with what could now be construed as a hack? B) Dale Fraser wrote: How much time and $ are you wasting to save yourself a $600 upgrade. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 2:05 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Coldfusion 5, uses com objects. Visual Studio can create com objects a pain in the arse, with a lot interop etc., but it can be done. I am sure Scott Barnes will pop in soon enough, and provide some more insight. Or, you could upgrade to CF8 and have it all built in for you:-) Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 1:05 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Yeah I had thought of that already its just so messy that I don't want to make any more of a mess from what already is there. I have another solution which I will use instead...i.e. .NET Thanks again. Jeremy br -- Join Lavalife for free. What are you waiting for?http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D30288_t=764581033_r=email_taglines_Join_free_OCT07_m=EXT --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices
Last try... Using a tool like soapui you could build working test cases for these web services. Then grab the soap and copy it to use in cfhttp. This is sometimes necessary even in CF8. Would this really be a bigger undertaking that rewriting your app in CF8 or dot net (or flex?) On 1/4/08, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok. The mission you are about to undertake Jeremy is evil..in it's purist form.. kidding. Really its not as scary as one would believe, it's a case of making sure you are sending the right metadata to connect initially and then be mindful of the fact that certain types have issues around translating accross the SOAP divide. eg: Array of Strings has issues in how Java vs .NET agree (ahh to have a universal format would be nice.. REST vs SOAP discussion apply here). It's hard to give you an accurate forecast on your pain without seeing the bits, but I will partially agree that you're essentially putting your thumb on the desk, hitting it with a hammer and that's less likely to cause you pain then this mission put forward. It maybe a Coffee in the CBD chat, ping me offline and we can have lunch and tell each other tall stories about whether OSX is better than Vista (my money is on BeOS making a strong comeback.. mark my words, she's the dark horse...) --- Scott Barnes Your Friendly RIA Evangelist Microsoft. On Dec 29, 2007 9:31 PM, Mark Ireland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh Yeah. I think they wish they had created a large java app. They really think they could do a better job of coding a server application language. -- Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:03:37 +1100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Interesting point about Java developers. I have come across that more than once where Java developers try their best to kill off ColdFusio. Why? Are they afraid that they will be shown up? Anyone else found that. Simon On 30/11/2007, *Barry Beattie* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and life may not be that simple... ... I know a place that has enterprise-wide CF enterprise licenses for CF7 ... and yet some poor sods there were still working on CF5 systems. sometimes it comes down to the migration process, the QA ... maybe even the politics from a .NET or Java group within the enterprise trying to kill off their CF rivals ... On Nov 30, 2007 2:05 PM, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come on Brett, Never let the details get in the way of a good post ;) Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Brett Payne-Rhodes Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 2:37 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices I don't think you can assume that it is a $600 upgrade. Could be enterprise. Could be clustered. And I'm not even sure there is an upgrade from CF5 to CF8? That isn't to say that your point isn't a valid one. What IS the cost of the upgrade compared to the $s spent trying to make it work with what could now be construed as a hack? B) Dale Fraser wrote: How much time and $ are you wasting to save yourself a $600 upgrade. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 2:05 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Coldfusion 5, uses com objects. Visual Studio can create com objects a pain in the arse, with a lot interop etc., but it can be done. I am sure Scott Barnes will pop in soon enough, and provide some more insight. Or, you could upgrade to CF8 and have it all built in for you:-) Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 1:05 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Yeah I had thought of that already its just so messy that I don't want to make any more of a mess from what already is there. I have another solution which I will use instead...i.e. .NET Thanks again. Jeremy br -- Join Lavalife for free. What are you waiting for?http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid
[cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices
Oh Yeah. I think they wish they had created a large java app. They really think they could do a better job of coding a server application language. Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:03:37 +1100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Interesting point about Java developers. I have come across that more than once where Java developers try their best to kill off ColdFusio. Why? Are they afraid that they will be shown up? Anyone else found that. Simon On 30/11/2007, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and life may not be that simple... ... I know a place that has enterprise-wide CF enterprise licenses for CF7 ... and yet some poor sods there were still working on CF5 systems. sometimes it comes down to the migration process, the QA ... maybe even the politics from a .NET or Java group within the enterprise trying to kill off their CF rivals ... On Nov 30, 2007 2:05 PM, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come on Brett, Never let the details get in the way of a good post ;) Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Brett Payne-Rhodes Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 2:37 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices I don't think you can assume that it is a $600 upgrade. Could be enterprise. Could be clustered. And I'm not even sure there is an upgrade from CF5 to CF8? That isn't to say that your point isn't a valid one. What IS the cost of the upgrade compared to the $s spent trying to make it work with what could now be construed as a hack? B) Dale Fraser wrote: How much time and $ are you wasting to save yourself a $600 upgrade. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 2:05 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Coldfusion 5, uses com objects. Visual Studio can create com objects a pain in the arse, with a lot interop etc., but it can be done. I am sure Scott Barnes will pop in soon enough, and provide some more insight. Or, you could upgrade to CF8 and have it all built in for you:-) Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 1:05 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Yeah I had thought of that already its just so messy that I don't want to make any more of a mess from what already is there. I have another solution which I will use instead...i.e. .NET Thanks again. Jeremy br _ What are you waiting for? Join Lavalife FREE http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D30288_t=764581033_r=email_taglines_Join_free_OCT07_m=EXT --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices
It's Not about the money at this point its about trying to make it work. To upgrade this application to CF8 would be a MASSIVE event. I mean it WOULD BE MASSIVE.So we have to be extra careful. My suggestions to management team is to piss off CF all together and move over to .NET if that is what their plan is to do in the first place...but whom am I but just a pleb programmer. I'm just trying to build a bridge between to different time periods On Nov 30, 1:31 pm, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much time and $ are you wasting to save yourself a $600 upgrade. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 2:05 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Coldfusion 5, uses com objects. Visual Studio can create com objects a pain in the arse, with a lot interop etc., but it can be done. I am sure Scott Barnes will pop in soon enough, and provide some more insight. Or, you could upgrade to CF8 and have it all built in for you:-) Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd.www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 1:05 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Yeah I had thought of that already its just so messy that I don't want to make any more of a mess from what already is there. I have another solution which I will use instead...i.e. .NET Thanks again. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices
You could always go to the company http://www.jnbridge.com, that Coldfusion 8 uses. On 12/27/07, Jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's Not about the money at this point its about trying to make it work. To upgrade this application to CF8 would be a MASSIVE event. I mean it WOULD BE MASSIVE.So we have to be extra careful. My suggestions to management team is to piss off CF all together and move over to .NET if that is what their plan is to do in the first place...but whom am I but just a pleb programmer. I'm just trying to build a bridge between to different time periods On Nov 30, 1:31 pm, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much time and $ are you wasting to save yourself a $600 upgrade. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 2:05 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Coldfusion 5, uses com objects. Visual Studio can create com objects a pain in the arse, with a lot interop etc., but it can be done. I am sure Scott Barnes will pop in soon enough, and provide some more insight. Or, you could upgrade to CF8 and have it all built in for you:-) Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd.www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 1:05 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Yeah I had thought of that already its just so messy that I don't want to make any more of a mess from what already is there. I have another solution which I will use instead...i.e. .NET Thanks again. Jeremy -- Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices
Yes, big time... More so in an Enterprise world. On 12/27/07, Simon Haddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting point about Java developers. I have come across that more than once where Java developers try their best to kill off ColdFusio. Why? Are they afraid that they will be shown up? Anyone else found that. Simon On 30/11/2007, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and life may not be that simple... ... I know a place that has enterprise-wide CF enterprise licenses for CF7 ... and yet some poor sods there were still working on CF5 systems. sometimes it comes down to the migration process, the QA ... maybe even the politics from a .NET or Java group within the enterprise trying to kill off their CF rivals ... On Nov 30, 2007 2:05 PM, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come on Brett, Never let the details get in the way of a good post ;) Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Brett Payne-Rhodes Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 2:37 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices I don't think you can assume that it is a $600 upgrade. Could be enterprise. Could be clustered. And I'm not even sure there is an upgrade from CF5 to CF8? That isn't to say that your point isn't a valid one. What IS the cost of the upgrade compared to the $s spent trying to make it work with what could now be construed as a hack? B) Dale Fraser wrote: How much time and $ are you wasting to save yourself a $600 upgrade. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 2:05 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Coldfusion 5, uses com objects. Visual Studio can create com objects a pain in the arse, with a lot interop etc., but it can be done. I am sure Scott Barnes will pop in soon enough, and provide some more insight. Or, you could upgrade to CF8 and have it all built in for you:-) Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 1:05 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Yeah I had thought of that already its just so messy that I don't want to make any more of a mess from what already is there. I have another solution which I will use instead...i.e. .NET Thanks again. Jeremy -- Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices
Interesting point about Java developers. I have come across that more than once where Java developers try their best to kill off ColdFusio. Why? Are they afraid that they will be shown up? Anyone else found that. Simon On 30/11/2007, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and life may not be that simple... ... I know a place that has enterprise-wide CF enterprise licenses for CF7 ... and yet some poor sods there were still working on CF5 systems. sometimes it comes down to the migration process, the QA ... maybe even the politics from a .NET or Java group within the enterprise trying to kill off their CF rivals ... On Nov 30, 2007 2:05 PM, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come on Brett, Never let the details get in the way of a good post ;) Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett Payne-Rhodes Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 2:37 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices I don't think you can assume that it is a $600 upgrade. Could be enterprise. Could be clustered. And I'm not even sure there is an upgrade from CF5 to CF8? That isn't to say that your point isn't a valid one. What IS the cost of the upgrade compared to the $s spent trying to make it work with what could now be construed as a hack? B) Dale Fraser wrote: How much time and $ are you wasting to save yourself a $600 upgrade. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 2:05 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Coldfusion 5, uses com objects. Visual Studio can create com objects a pain in the arse, with a lot interop etc., but it can be done. I am sure Scott Barnes will pop in soon enough, and provide some more insight. Or, you could upgrade to CF8 and have it all built in for you:-) Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 1:05 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Yeah I had thought of that already its just so messy that I don't want to make any more of a mess from what already is there. I have another solution which I will use instead...i.e. .NET Thanks again. Jeremy -- Cheers Simon Haddon --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices
Coldfusion 5, uses com objects. Visual Studio can create com objects a pain in the arse, with a lot interop etc., but it can be done. I am sure Scott Barnes will pop in soon enough, and provide some more insight. Or, you could upgrade to CF8 and have it all built in for you:-) Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 1:05 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Yeah I had thought of that already its just so messy that I don't want to make any more of a mess from what already is there. I have another solution which I will use instead...i.e. .NET Thanks again. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices
I don't think you can assume that it is a $600 upgrade. Could be enterprise. Could be clustered. And I'm not even sure there is an upgrade from CF5 to CF8? That isn't to say that your point isn't a valid one. What IS the cost of the upgrade compared to the $s spent trying to make it work with what could now be construed as a hack? B) Dale Fraser wrote: How much time and $ are you wasting to save yourself a $600 upgrade. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 2:05 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Coldfusion 5, uses com objects. Visual Studio can create com objects a pain in the arse, with a lot interop etc., but it can be done. I am sure Scott Barnes will pop in soon enough, and provide some more insight. Or, you could upgrade to CF8 and have it all built in for you:-) Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 1:05 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Yeah I had thought of that already its just so messy that I don't want to make any more of a mess from what already is there. I have another solution which I will use instead...i.e. .NET Thanks again. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices
How much time and $ are you wasting to save yourself a $600 upgrade. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 2:05 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Coldfusion 5, uses com objects. Visual Studio can create com objects a pain in the arse, with a lot interop etc., but it can be done. I am sure Scott Barnes will pop in soon enough, and provide some more insight. Or, you could upgrade to CF8 and have it all built in for you:-) Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 1:05 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Yeah I had thought of that already its just so messy that I don't want to make any more of a mess from what already is there. I have another solution which I will use instead...i.e. .NET Thanks again. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices
Come on Brett, Never let the details get in the way of a good post ;) Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett Payne-Rhodes Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 2:37 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices I don't think you can assume that it is a $600 upgrade. Could be enterprise. Could be clustered. And I'm not even sure there is an upgrade from CF5 to CF8? That isn't to say that your point isn't a valid one. What IS the cost of the upgrade compared to the $s spent trying to make it work with what could now be construed as a hack? B) Dale Fraser wrote: How much time and $ are you wasting to save yourself a $600 upgrade. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 2:05 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Coldfusion 5, uses com objects. Visual Studio can create com objects a pain in the arse, with a lot interop etc., but it can be done. I am sure Scott Barnes will pop in soon enough, and provide some more insight. Or, you could upgrade to CF8 and have it all built in for you:-) Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 1:05 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Yeah I had thought of that already its just so messy that I don't want to make any more of a mess from what already is there. I have another solution which I will use instead...i.e. .NET Thanks again. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices
Well in my opinion if you are not a seasoned .Net developer, you would easily waste the upgrade money very quickly. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 2:31 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices How much time and $ are you wasting to save yourself a $600 upgrade. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices
and life may not be that simple... ... I know a place that has enterprise-wide CF enterprise licenses for CF7 ... and yet some poor sods there were still working on CF5 systems. sometimes it comes down to the migration process, the QA ... maybe even the politics from a .NET or Java group within the enterprise trying to kill off their CF rivals ... On Nov 30, 2007 2:05 PM, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come on Brett, Never let the details get in the way of a good post ;) Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett Payne-Rhodes Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 2:37 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices I don't think you can assume that it is a $600 upgrade. Could be enterprise. Could be clustered. And I'm not even sure there is an upgrade from CF5 to CF8? That isn't to say that your point isn't a valid one. What IS the cost of the upgrade compared to the $s spent trying to make it work with what could now be construed as a hack? B) Dale Fraser wrote: How much time and $ are you wasting to save yourself a $600 upgrade. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 2:05 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Coldfusion 5, uses com objects. Visual Studio can create com objects a pain in the arse, with a lot interop etc., but it can be done. I am sure Scott Barnes will pop in soon enough, and provide some more insight. Or, you could upgrade to CF8 and have it all built in for you:-) Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 1:05 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Yeah I had thought of that already its just so messy that I don't want to make any more of a mess from what already is there. I have another solution which I will use instead...i.e. .NET Thanks again. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices
I was in in exactly that circumstance for about 8 months this year. The webserver I had to locate my scripts on due to VPN restrictions was also running a bunch of other tools that couldn't be upgraded for various reasons - so all my code had to be retuned to run on CF5 instead of CF7. I spent more time trying to find a copy my old CF5 books so I could check syntax then I did building my apps. Barry Beattie wrote: and life may not be that simple... ... I know a place that has enterprise-wide CF enterprise licenses for CF7 ... and yet some poor sods there were still working on CF5 systems. sometimes it comes down to the migration process, the QA ... maybe even the politics from a .NET or Java group within the enterprise trying to kill off their CF rivals ... On Nov 30, 2007 2:05 PM, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come on Brett, Never let the details get in the way of a good post ;) Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett Payne-Rhodes Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 2:37 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices I don't think you can assume that it is a $600 upgrade. Could be enterprise. Could be clustered. And I'm not even sure there is an upgrade from CF5 to CF8? That isn't to say that your point isn't a valid one. What IS the cost of the upgrade compared to the $s spent trying to make it work with what could now be construed as a hack? B) Dale Fraser wrote: How much time and $ are you wasting to save yourself a $600 upgrade. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 2:05 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Coldfusion 5, uses com objects. Visual Studio can create com objects a pain in the arse, with a lot interop etc., but it can be done. I am sure Scott Barnes will pop in soon enough, and provide some more insight. Or, you could upgrade to CF8 and have it all built in for you:-) Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 1:05 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Yeah I had thought of that already its just so messy that I don't want to make any more of a mess from what already is there. I have another solution which I will use instead...i.e. .NET Thanks again. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices
Yeah I had thought of that already its just so messy that I don't want to make any more of a mess from what already is there. I have another solution which I will use instead...i.e. .NET Thanks again. Jeremy On Nov 29, 4:54 pm, Sean Bucklar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've used .net1.1 webservices it in the past from CFHTTP. It wasn't something I'd reccomend. You might try CFOBJECT to instantiate the SOAP com object? MrBuzzy wrote: I don't know of anything. You *could* post the soap requests using cfhttp. It's not impossible. On 11/29/07, Jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can this be done? Or is there a CFX tag I can get that does it...Or am I really streching the boundaries of the Internet... Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices
I don't know of anything. You *could* post the soap requests using cfhttp. It's not impossible. On 11/29/07, Jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can this be done? Or is there a CFX tag I can get that does it...Or am I really streching the boundaries of the Internet... Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices
Seriously, If you haven't been able to convince management of an upgrade since v5 then you might as well install PHP or ASP, your really wasting your time with CF5 Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2007 2:14 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Can this be done? Or is there a CFX tag I can get that does it...Or am I really streching the boundaries of the Internet... Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices
HAHAHAHA. Yeah I think the issue is that they want to keep the best of both worlds. But just use CF for a little longer until they fully change everything over to .net. Thats what I thought anyway. Thanks for your help. Jeremy On Nov 29, 2:06 pm, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seriously, If you haven't been able to convince management of an upgrade since v5 then you might as well install PHP or ASP, your really wasting your time with CF5 Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2007 2:14 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Can this be done? Or is there a CFX tag I can get that does it...Or am I really streching the boundaries of the Internet... Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices
And the worst part about that is that management get the impression that CF doesn't work with current technologies. Rather than understanding that if they just upgraded CF it *would* work and more! And what do they tell their management buddies at AIM? *sigh* B) Jeremy wrote: HAHAHAHA. Yeah I think the issue is that they want to keep the best of both worlds. But just use CF for a little longer until they fully change everything over to .net. Thats what I thought anyway. Thanks for your help. Jeremy On Nov 29, 2:06 pm, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seriously, If you haven't been able to convince management of an upgrade since v5 then you might as well install PHP or ASP, your really wasting your time with CF5 Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2007 2:14 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Can this be done? Or is there a CFX tag I can get that does it...Or am I really streching the boundaries of the Internet... Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices
I've used .net1.1 webservices it in the past from CFHTTP. It wasn't something I'd reccomend. You might try CFOBJECT to instantiate the SOAP com object? MrBuzzy wrote: I don't know of anything. You *could* post the soap requests using cfhttp. It's not impossible. On 11/29/07, Jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can this be done? Or is there a CFX tag I can get that does it...Or am I really streching the boundaries of the Internet... Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
