[cfaussie] Re: RocketBoots - Galaxy
Hi All, Can anyone point me to the 'alpha alpha alpha' Galaxy repo. I'd like to take a gander. I have been looking into SOA (well SOA-lite) for our internally hosted web applications. We have CF, PHP, .Net applications and have had real issues with cross compitability from WSDL generation to datatype mismatches to SOAP Headers vs HTTP Headers and a few others. All of which, I hasten to add, I have solved ... to a degree :) I have looked at Sean Corfield's endpoint.cfc as a potential RESTful adapter to our CF apps which solves some compatibility issues. Hey, who knows, maybe I can contribute ... which'll be a first. Cheers Glen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Re: RocketBoots - Galaxy
Found it - http://trac.rocketboots.com/os/wiki/GalaxySoa Mark On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:18 AM, nkosi glenrainb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Can anyone point me to the 'alpha alpha alpha' Galaxy repo. I'd like to take a gander. I have been looking into SOA (well SOA-lite) for our internally hosted web applications. We have CF, PHP, .Net applications and have had real issues with cross compitability from WSDL generation to datatype mismatches to SOAP Headers vs HTTP Headers and a few others. All of which, I hasten to add, I have solved ... to a degree :) I have looked at Sean Corfield's endpoint.cfc as a potential RESTful adapter to our CF apps which solves some compatibility issues. Hey, who knows, maybe I can contribute ... which'll be a first. Cheers Glen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcfaussie%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- E: mark.man...@gmail.com T: http://www.twitter.com/neurotic W: www.compoundtheory.com Hands-on ColdFusion ORM Training @ cf.Objective() 2010 www.ColdFusionOrmTraining.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Re: RocketBoots - Galaxy
On 25/03/2010, at 10:22 AM, Mark Mandel wrote: Found it - http://trac.rocketboots.com/os/wiki/GalaxySoa Mark On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:18 AM, nkosi glenrainb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Can anyone point me to the 'alpha alpha alpha' Galaxy repo. I'd like to take a gander. Hi Glen (and thanks Mark), I'll keep that link at the bottom of the page pointing at the latest alpha - it's just ticked over to 0.8, which includes local failover of service instances. Note that the remote part of Galaxy is just standard cfc under the web root (remoting, web service, json, wddx) - the difference to the developer is that when you're calling a remote version of the service you actually use an instance of the service cfc rather than an instance of a webservice. Please feel free to check it out and contribute - like I said, it's so out there that it's really going to take some good community feedback to turn it into something really useful. Cheers, Robin ROBIN HILLIARD Chief Technology Officer ro...@rocketboots.com.au RocketBoots Pty Ltd Level 11 189 Kent Street Sydney NSW 2001 Australia Phone +61 2 9323 2507 Facsimile +61 2 9323 2501 Mobile +61 418 414 341 www.rocketboots.com.au -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Re: RocketBoots - Galaxy
Hi Robin, Will you be showing this off at webDU? On 25 March 2010 07:49, Robin Hilliard ro...@rocketboots.com.au wrote: On 25/03/2010, at 10:22 AM, Mark Mandel wrote: Found it - http://trac.rocketboots.com/os/wiki/GalaxySoa Mark On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:18 AM, nkosi glenrainb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Can anyone point me to the 'alpha alpha alpha' Galaxy repo. I'd like to take a gander. Hi Glen (and thanks Mark), I'll keep that link at the bottom of the page pointing at the latest alpha - it's just ticked over to 0.8, which includes local failover of service instances. Note that the remote part of Galaxy is just standard cfc under the web root (remoting, web service, json, wddx) - the difference to the developer is that when you're calling a remote version of the service you actually use an instance of the service cfc rather than an instance of a webservice. Please feel free to check it out and contribute - like I said, it's so out there that it's really going to take some good community feedback to turn it into something really useful. Cheers, Robin *ROBIN HILLIARD* *Chief Technology Officer* ro...@rocketboots.com.au RocketBoots Pty Ltd Level 11 189 Kent Street Sydney NSW 2001 Australia *Phone* +61 2 9323 2507 *Facsimile* +61 2 9323 2501 *Mobile* +61 418 414 341 www.rocketboots.com.au -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcfaussie%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- AJ Mercer http://webonix.net http://twitter.com/webonix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Re: RocketBoots - Galaxy
Funnily enough, at the time I was putting in my talk details it looked like I was going to be writing requirements documents all year (ah, the perks of high office) so I'm talking about requirements :-). It will still be an earth-shatterlingly good presentation, of course... Robin ROBIN HILLIARD Chief Technology Officer ro...@rocketboots.com.au RocketBoots Pty Ltd Level 11 189 Kent Street Sydney NSW 2001 Australia Phone +61 2 9323 2507 Facsimile +61 2 9323 2501 Mobile +61 418 414 341 www.rocketboots.com.au On 25/03/2010, at 1:13 PM, AJ Mercer wrote: Hi Robin, Will you be showing this off at webDU? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
[cfaussie] Re: RocketBoots - Galaxy
Gavin, really pleased to see you got so much out of Robin's presentation. I would really urge you to speak with Robin regarding the readiness of the code; as Robin says, it's experimental and alpha. I'm assuming you're anticipating that by the time you're ready to go into production, Galaxy will also be up for prime time? So, not intending to discourage in any way, just signalling that there is some risk that Galaxy may not get to release. Cheers Peter On Mar 23, 2:01 pm, Gavin Baumanis beauecli...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, As a result of the Melbourne CFUG meeting last week, the company I work for has decided to some development work with Robins Galaxy code. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
[cfaussie] Re: RocketBoots - Galaxy
On Mar 23, 3:00 pm, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote: Didn't Robin say this was alpha,alpha,alpha? ;o) Yup he did say that... All sounds pretty nifty though - good luck with it all. To anyone was there will know that there was some discussion after the end of the PUG surounding what framework is best for me; how do you choose which one of the many to invest your time in? But the promise of what galaxy can be and the ability that it currently has - really struck a chord with me and seems to provide an appropriate avenue for us to wrap our old application up and treat it as a service for our new versin to consume. Robin and I have had a quick phone call since and he did point out that I didn't require Galaxy at all to the wrapping - but we have discussed it in house a fair bit over the last couple days and everyone sees it as being something to invest time into. Hopefully by the time it makes it out of alpha, we'll know all there is to know about it. We'll have managed to contribute to it and finally, We'll have allowed ourselves to provide a workable roadmap towards abonding our dodgy old code-base and having an appropriately architected application that inherently lends itself to code-reuse and scalabaility. I'm sure there will be pitfalls and setbacks - and I'll be certan to share and ask for help! Mark On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Gavin Baumanis beauecli...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Everyone, As a result of the Melbourne CFUG meeting last week, the company I work for has decided to some development work with Robins Galaxy code. The use-case we have for wanting to use it two fold. Wrap an existing application into a service and consume that in a brand new aplication. and lastly to increase the modularity of our current application. The last point we already do for the most part. We write patient Management Software that is used in New Zealand and Australia. For the most part the applications are the same but there are some significant differences between the two locations. Thankfully, we already have a separate Administration application for each install. We have a separate referral application for each install, etc. But this separation was more by fluke than good design and is internal to each install of the overall application package. So, for example, we have 15 copies of the referral application - one for each install. By being service oriented, we hope to replace the 15 versions of the referral application with two (one for AU and one for NZ). Similarly we hope to replace the authentication processes used by our application into a single authentication service that can be wired into any of our applications and we thought that this service would be a good candidate for us to use as our learning tool. The reason for writing here is; a) Lift the profile of the Galaxy OS project b) Solicit input into what people see as being required in the authentication service. Currently we're thinking of; - allow user authentication via DB username / password matching - as above but with LDAP - as above but with OpenId So our user authentication public method would have an argument for authentication type and then subsequent arguments that would be required for each of the suppoted authenticated types and it would simply return a boolean for whether or not the authentication was successful. There is also a requirement around expired passwords / grace logins / intruder detection etc for directory servies enabled authentication methods. And if we get around to supporting Openid - then a simple boolean is not an appropriate return. We already have the code for this (LDAP / grace login testing / processing) - but is it appropriate to place this code in the service or is that best left in the home application. And, of course - certainly please feel free to comletely disagree - we don;t pretend to have all the answers. Gavin. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcfaussie%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- E: mark.man...@gmail.com T:http://www.twitter.com/neurotic W:www.compoundtheory.com Hands-on ColdFusion ORM Training @ cf.Objective() 2010www.ColdFusionOrmTraining.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
[cfaussie] Re: RocketBoots - Galaxy
Hi Scott, I work for a company called PalCare, we provide a web-based PMS for comunity-based palliative care in AU and hospice and community based palliative care in NZ. Feel free to ping me here or off-list for anything specific. Gavin. On Mar 23, 3:10 pm, Scott Thornton scott.thorn...@hnehealth.nsw.gov.au wrote: Hi, What's the name of the PMS? and who do you work for if you don't mind me asking? being in health myself... and doing cf, didn't think there where many people out there like us Scott Thornton, Centralised Billing Unit Hunter-New England Area Health Service ext: 53358 p: +61 02 498 53358 m: 0413 800 242 Gavin Baumanis beauecli...@gmail.com 23/03/2010 2:01 pm Hi Everyone, As a result of the Melbourne CFUG meeting last week, the company I work for has decided to some development work with Robins Galaxy code. The use-case we have for wanting to use it two fold. Wrap an existing application into a service and consume that in a brand new aplication. and lastly to increase the modularity of our current application. The last point we already do for the most part. We write patient Management Software that is used in New Zealand and Australia. For the most part the applications are the same but there are some significant differences between the two locations. Thankfully, we already have a separate Administration application for each install. We have a separate referral application for each install, etc. But this separation was more by fluke than good design and is internal to each install of the overall application package. So, for example, we have 15 copies of the referral application - one for each install. By being service oriented, we hope to replace the 15 versions of the referral application with two (one for AU and one for NZ). Similarly we hope to replace the authentication processes used by our application into a single authentication service that can be wired into any of our applications and we thought that this service would be a good candidate for us to use as our learning tool. The reason for writing here is; a) Lift the profile of the Galaxy OS project b) Solicit input into what people see as being required in the authentication service. Currently we're thinking of; - allow user authentication via DB username / password matching - as above but with LDAP - as above but with OpenId So our user authentication public method would have an argument for authentication type and then subsequent arguments that would be required for each of the suppoted authenticated types and it would simply return a boolean for whether or not the authentication was successful. There is also a requirement around expired passwords / grace logins / intruder detection etc for directory servies enabled authentication methods. And if we get around to supporting Openid - then a simple boolean is not an appropriate return. We already have the code for this (LDAP / grace login testing / processing) - but is it appropriate to place this code in the service or is that best left in the home application. And, of course - certainly please feel free to comletely disagree - we don;t pretend to have all the answers. Gavin. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
