Re: [cgiapp] CGI::Application or Dancer2, Mojolicious et similar
On 08/11/2016 03:13 AM, max.augsb...@gmx.de wrote: > > Dear CGI Application Experts, > > I am a Newbie in Perl and Web Programming. I tested a little bit Dancer2, but > I liked CGI::Application from the design much much more because it feels for > me more perlish. > > But what me confuse a little bit is, that the last stable version is from the > year 2011. Please allow me a straight and honest question: Does it make sense > yet to learn CGI::Application or should I better go ahead to a modern > framework as Dancer2 although CGI::Application to me appeals much more? Is > CGI::Application still active and will there be new stable versions on CPAN > in the near future (the devel version that contains also one security bugfix > is more than one year old)? Or is CGI::Application over the many years simply > ready programmed so that only minor bugfixes are necessary? > > I really hope, that the wonderful CGI App has a future. I think this > framework has such a wonderful and specific design so that it really sets > itself apart from the "big modern" modern frameworks (Dancer2, Mojolicious, > Catalyst) which are all very similar and so that there is real need for it. > > Best wishes, > Max Personally, I really like CGI::Application with HTML::Template. That combination is straight-forward with no BS. The support bothers me a bit too but I only write web stuff as ancillary to my primary professions of systems and network engineering. For that CGI::App serves me well. If I was a real web developer the support issue might bother me too. -- Stephen Carville Serf Without Portfolio 800.537.3821 x1326 scarvi...@nospam.lereta.com - There is no "I" in Team but there is in Integrity. # CGI::Application community mailing list #### ## To unsubscribe, or change your message delivery options, ## ## visit: http://www.erlbaum.net/mailman/listinfo/cgiapp## #### ## Web archive: http://www.erlbaum.net/pipermail/cgiapp/ ## ## Wiki: http://cgiapp.erlbaum.net/ ## ####
Re: [cgiapp] CGI::Application or Dancer2, Mojolicious et similar
* max.augsb...@gmx.de [11/08/2016 12:13] : > > Please allow me a straight and honest question: Does it make sense > yet to learn CGI::Application or should I better go ahead to a modern > framework as Dancer2 although CGI::Application to me appeals much more? Like Richard, I've moved on from CGI::Application, using either pure Plack or Dancer2 (both of which I consider to be CGI::Application's spiritual sons to some extent). I still keep track of any releases (although that's mainly because I maintain Fedora's CGI-Application package) but my interest in writing CGI scripts now that I've used PSGI is more or less dead. Emmanuel # CGI::Application community mailing list #### ## To unsubscribe, or change your message delivery options, ## ## visit: http://www.erlbaum.net/mailman/listinfo/cgiapp## #### ## Web archive: http://www.erlbaum.net/pipermail/cgiapp/ ## ## Wiki: http://cgiapp.erlbaum.net/ ## ####
Re: [cgiapp] CGI::Application or Dancer2, Mojolicious et similar
(I'm not nuts about top posting, but I'll follow suit here.) I've been using Titanium which pulls together CGI::App, HTML::Template and a few other cats and dogs. I really like it. I use Rose::DB where I need that part. I've been looking at Mojolicious, but have been unable to get my brain wrapped around it. On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 04:19:20PM +0100, Richard Jones wrote: > Max, > > As far as I know it is not being developed any more. I don't even know > if it's being maintained. The list is pretty quiet these days and I > assume most have moved on to other frameworks or out of Perl entirely. > My main app is based on CGI::App so I still use it, but don't do > anything new with it - I moved to Dancer2 for new stuff. Catalyst always > felt like overkill for the types of things I do, but once I got used to > the D2 syntax I found it to be a very enjoyable experience. YMMV of > course, but if you keep just framework-specific stuff in the D2 classes, > most of your code is in your own classes anyway so is > framework-independent. If you really like CGI::App maybe you could look > at taking it over and modernising it? I imagine it would be quite a big > task though. Ron Savage already did something similar by forking > CGI::App to CGI::Snapp a few years ago but I don't know if he still > maintains it. > > > On 11/08/2016 11:13, max.augsb...@gmx.de wrote: > > Dear CGI Application Experts, > > > > I am a Newbie in Perl and Web Programming. I tested a little bit Dancer2, > > but I liked CGI::Application from the design much much more because it > > feels for me more perlish. > > > > But what me confuse a little bit is, that the last stable version is from > > the year 2011. Please allow me a straight and honest question: Does it make > > sense yet to learn CGI::Application or should I better go ahead to a modern > > framework as Dancer2 although CGI::Application to me appeals much more? Is > > CGI::Application still active and will there be new stable versions on CPAN > > in the near future (the devel version that contains also one security > > bugfix is more than one year old)? Or is CGI::Application over the many > > years simply ready programmed so that only minor bugfixes are necessary? > > > > I really hope, that the wonderful CGI App has a future. I think this > > framework has such a wonderful and specific design so that it really sets > > itself apart from the "big modern" modern frameworks (Dancer2, Mojolicious, > > Catalyst) which are all very similar and so that there is real need for it. > > > > Best wishes, > > Max > > > > -- > Richard Jones > Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. b...@bobcatos.com http://www.bobcatos.com But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God's wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed. God "will give to each person according to what he has done." Romans 2:5-6 (NIV) # CGI::Application community mailing list #### ## To unsubscribe, or change your message delivery options, ## ## visit: http://www.erlbaum.net/mailman/listinfo/cgiapp## #### ## Web archive: http://www.erlbaum.net/pipermail/cgiapp/ ## ## Wiki: http://cgiapp.erlbaum.net/ ## ####
Re: [cgiapp] CGI::Application or Dancer2, Mojolicious et similar
Max, As far as I know it is not being developed any more. I don't even know if it's being maintained. The list is pretty quiet these days and I assume most have moved on to other frameworks or out of Perl entirely. My main app is based on CGI::App so I still use it, but don't do anything new with it - I moved to Dancer2 for new stuff. Catalyst always felt like overkill for the types of things I do, but once I got used to the D2 syntax I found it to be a very enjoyable experience. YMMV of course, but if you keep just framework-specific stuff in the D2 classes, most of your code is in your own classes anyway so is framework-independent. If you really like CGI::App maybe you could look at taking it over and modernising it? I imagine it would be quite a big task though. Ron Savage already did something similar by forking CGI::App to CGI::Snapp a few years ago but I don't know if he still maintains it. On 11/08/2016 11:13, max.augsb...@gmx.de wrote: > Dear CGI Application Experts, > > I am a Newbie in Perl and Web Programming. I tested a little bit Dancer2, but > I liked CGI::Application from the design much much more because it feels for > me more perlish. > > But what me confuse a little bit is, that the last stable version is from the > year 2011. Please allow me a straight and honest question: Does it make sense > yet to learn CGI::Application or should I better go ahead to a modern > framework as Dancer2 although CGI::Application to me appeals much more? Is > CGI::Application still active and will there be new stable versions on CPAN > in the near future (the devel version that contains also one security bugfix > is more than one year old)? Or is CGI::Application over the many years simply > ready programmed so that only minor bugfixes are necessary? > > I really hope, that the wonderful CGI App has a future. I think this > framework has such a wonderful and specific design so that it really sets > itself apart from the "big modern" modern frameworks (Dancer2, Mojolicious, > Catalyst) which are all very similar and so that there is real need for it. > > Best wishes, > Max > > > > # CGI::Application community mailing list > #### > ## To unsubscribe, or change your message delivery options, ## > ## visit: http://www.erlbaum.net/mailman/listinfo/cgiapp## > #### > ## Web archive: http://www.erlbaum.net/pipermail/cgiapp/ ## > ## Wiki: http://cgiapp.erlbaum.net/ ## > #### > > -- Richard Jones # CGI::Application community mailing list #### ## To unsubscribe, or change your message delivery options, ## ## visit: http://www.erlbaum.net/mailman/listinfo/cgiapp## #### ## Web archive: http://www.erlbaum.net/pipermail/cgiapp/ ## ## Wiki: http://cgiapp.erlbaum.net/ ## ####
[cgiapp] CGI::Application or Dancer2, Mojolicious et similar
Dear CGI Application Experts, I am a Newbie in Perl and Web Programming. I tested a little bit Dancer2, but I liked CGI::Application from the design much much more because it feels for me more perlish. But what me confuse a little bit is, that the last stable version is from the year 2011. Please allow me a straight and honest question: Does it make sense yet to learn CGI::Application or should I better go ahead to a modern framework as Dancer2 although CGI::Application to me appeals much more? Is CGI::Application still active and will there be new stable versions on CPAN in the near future (the devel version that contains also one security bugfix is more than one year old)? Or is CGI::Application over the many years simply ready programmed so that only minor bugfixes are necessary? I really hope, that the wonderful CGI App has a future. I think this framework has such a wonderful and specific design so that it really sets itself apart from the "big modern" modern frameworks (Dancer2, Mojolicious, Catalyst) which are all very similar and so that there is real need for it. Best wishes, Max # CGI::Application community mailing list #### ## To unsubscribe, or change your message delivery options, ## ## visit: http://www.erlbaum.net/mailman/listinfo/cgiapp## #### ## Web archive: http://www.erlbaum.net/pipermail/cgiapp/ ## ## Wiki: http://cgiapp.erlbaum.net/ ## ####
