Re: [cgiapp] Re: A new project name for CGI::Application
Mark Stosberg wrote: CAPE. CAPE let's your web applications fly. Built with over five years of best practices by professional developers, CAPE delivers great performance and ease of use whether you are deploying to shared hosting account or need the full power of mod_perl. CAPE (or Cape if we prefer) is short, sweet, and is evocative of a useful visual image, as long as you don't try to visualize one the project leaders in a spandex superhero outfit. Mark I've taken the latest email thread name suggestions and added them to the wiki at http://cgiapp.erlbaum.net/cgi-bin/cgi-app/index.cgi?NameVoting. I don't know if that is the official name page, but it's what came up from the search so I figured it's probably a good bet. Fred - Web Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/cgiapp@lists.erlbaum.net/ http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=cgiappr=1w=2 To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[cgiapp] Re: A new project name for CGI::Application
On 2005-12-07, Sean Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/7/05 12:20 PM, Jesse Erlbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think the module name should change, but there is a larger architecture at work here, and I am all for naming it and promoting it. CGI-App (the module) is only one part of that architecture -- maybe a central part, but only one part. Let me say one thing about my own experience talking to people about the module: I'm getting a little tired of explaining to people ...don't let the 'CGI' in 'CGI-App' fool you -- it is not necessarily CGI-based. It does seem like some antiquated compatibility layer, if you only hear the name. I have it in mind to create a new CPAN module -- a Bundle which loads CGI-App and all the other popular modules. This bundle would also contain some infrastructure which implements popular best practices -- for instance, harness scripts to build up project scaffolding at the start. Agreeing with Jesse is usually a sure bet As a casual user of CGI::App I found that one of the largest problems with using CGI::App at the beginning was the infrastructure that probably comes as second nature to web developers. Simple issues like choosing a directory structure, templating system, determining the plugins that are generally useful versus those that have a more specific purpose, etc. I also share this vision. In this direction we already have CGI::Application::Framework. However, I think there is still a lot more to do this area, which may be appear as enhancements to ::Framework or a separate project. My personal vision for this projects includes setting up a standard directory structure for a project. The default layout would promote best practices such as separate config files and automated testing. It should also include at least one helper script to do things like run the test suite or deploy as par file. Rails has a script for copying the development database /schema/ to a new empty test database, and then populating with some default test data stored in some YAML format files for easy editting. As far as name voting, I remain undecided about a personal pick and just assume let someone else proceed with vote gathering and analysis. I do feel like a nickname of CAP is appropriate (as Rails is to Ruby on Rails). The longer formal name I'm less certain about. I'll throw out one more: CAPE. CAPE let's your web applications fly. Built with over five years of best practices by professional developers, CAPE delivers great performance and ease of use whether you are deploying to shared hosting account or need the full power of mod_perl. CAPE (or Cape if we prefer) is short, sweet, and is evocative of a useful visual image, as long as you don't try to visualize one the project leaders in a spandex superhero outfit. Mark - Web Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/cgiapp@lists.erlbaum.net/ http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=cgiappr=1w=2 To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[cgiapp] Re: A new project name for CGI::Application
On 2005-12-06, Rhesa Rozendaal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we need an animal, like Parrot, or Ponie. How about Capricorn? Or Caterpillar, because TMTOWTDI, and it does the heavy-lifting for you. Or Da Capo, because you write reusable apps. I like the animal idea, too, although I still haven't made up my mind about which one. Mark - Web Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/cgiapp@lists.erlbaum.net/ http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=cgiappr=1w=2 To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [cgiapp] Re: A new project name for CGI::Application
* Mark Stosberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-12-06 14:43:37+] On 2005-12-06, Rhesa Rozendaal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we need an animal, like Parrot, or Ponie. I like the animal idea, too, although I still haven't made up my mind about which one. We could wait for the name of the new mammal found on Kalimantan[1] ;-) 1. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4501152.stm -- B10m - Web Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/cgiapp@lists.erlbaum.net/ http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=cgiappr=1w=2 To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [cgiapp] Re: A new project name for CGI::Application
I like Capricorn, even if it's a little stuffy. Others could be started with pac. Having a 'P' is what the cool kids do, plus pac is cap backwards. Packrat (packrats ... maybe not) Pachyderm (The gigantic things you can do with C::A) Pacem (You are more peaceful when using C::A) Pachebel's Can(n)on (I have no idea where this came from) Pacer (both cause it rhymes with racer (speed of dev) and because you pace yourself) Maybe, we should evoke the peace and tranquility that you get when using C::A. Xanadu Pacem Sanctus Or, we could just do what the big companies do and pick a name that just sounds cool. Phillip Morris did this and their stock went up 10% in the next month. Some of those could be: Alteron Miramar Viridian Rob On 12/6/05, Mark Stosberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2005-12-06, Rhesa Rozendaal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we need an animal, like Parrot, or Ponie. How about Capricorn? Or Caterpillar, because TMTOWTDI, and it does the heavy-lifting for you. Or Da Capo, because you write reusable apps. I like the animal idea, too, although I still haven't made up my mind about which one. Mark - Web Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/cgiapp@lists.erlbaum.net/ http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=cgiappr=1w=2 To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/cgiapp@lists.erlbaum.net/ http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=cgiappr=1w=2 To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [cgiapp] Re: A new project name for CGI::Application
Viridian Rob I've heard you get up to 36 hours with Viridian. Does that come in capsules or tablets. ;) B - Web Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/cgiapp@lists.erlbaum.net/ http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=cgiappr=1w=2 To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [cgiapp] Re: A new project name for CGI::Application
cap a pied you're covered (Fr head to foot) Bruce McKenzie http://www.2MinuteExplainer.com - Web Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/cgiapp@lists.erlbaum.net/ http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=cgiappr=1w=2 To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [cgiapp] Re: A new project name for CGI::Application
capoera - our webapp-fu is stronger than yours On 12/6/05, Bruce McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cap a pied you're covered (Fr head to foot) Bruce McKenzie http://www.2MinuteExplainer.com - Web Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/cgiapp@lists.erlbaum.net/ http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=cgiappr=1w=2 To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/cgiapp@lists.erlbaum.net/ http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=cgiappr=1w=2 To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [cgiapp] Re: A new project name for CGI::Application
Mark Stosberg wrote: On 2005-12-06, Jesse Erlbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All three of these more of less dictate a way of doing things. CGI-App is more of a philosophy. So: ThinkingCAP ? CAPable -Kurt - Web Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/cgiapp@lists.erlbaum.net/ http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=cgiappr=1w=2 To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
