Re: [cgiapp] Re: CGI::Application mailing list is evolving
Mark Stosberg wrote: http://code.google.com/p/cgi-application/ Is it possible to change the design with this? Or will it always look like every other python powered google code website? Very little customization is available with Google Code sites, and your point that it is Python powered is taken, although with commerical services the language choice is rather hidden from the user. Yes, Jesse gave me admin and I had a look at the options, it seems very restrictive to me. I've given Jesse admin on the PerlPortal list so that he can review that... Lyle # CGI::Application community mailing list #### ## To unsubscribe, or change your message delivery options, ## ## visit: http://www.erlbaum.net/mailman/listinfo/cgiapp## #### ## Web archive: http://www.erlbaum.net/pipermail/cgiapp/ ## ## Wiki: http://cgiapp.erlbaum.net/ ## ####
Re: [cgiapp] Re: CGI::Application mailing list is evolving
Jesse Erlbaum wrote: On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Jesse Erlbaum je...@erlbaum.net wrote: Irrational though it may be, I get a much better feeling about something like Google Code (http://code.google.com) + Google Groups. This being said: http://code.google.com/p/cgi-application/ Just playing around. Anyone want admin access to check this out, let me know. Jesse Is it possible to change the design with this? Or will it always look like every other python powered google code website? Lyle # CGI::Application community mailing list #### ## To unsubscribe, or change your message delivery options, ## ## visit: http://www.erlbaum.net/mailman/listinfo/cgiapp## #### ## Web archive: http://www.erlbaum.net/pipermail/cgiapp/ ## ## Wiki: http://cgiapp.erlbaum.net/ ## ####
Re: [cgiapp] Re: CGI::Application mailing list is evolving
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Lyle webmas...@cosmicperl.com wrote: Mark Stosberg wrote: Please disregard. Yes, I apologize for the premature announcement. Let me take is opportunity to reframe the conversation, after speaking with Jesse who has now repaired the original mailing list. Performance issues aside, I think it's time that we consider moving to a next generation mailing-list / group-collaboration platform, and I'd like your input on what that is, or what features it has. Lyle Hopkins is offering one solution that is ready to go and I linked to earlier: http://lists.perlportal.com/sympa/info/cgiapp It provides a number of features including built-in archiving, web-based list management, RSS feeds, web-based posting and more. It's also written in Perl, with parts done in CGI::Application. Sympa is written in Perl, but there was a little confusion in my email as it doesn't use CGI::Application. What I was saying was that the site www.perlportal.com (not yet live) will be using a new CGI::Application based CMS. I vote to use a Perl based system, and Sympa is certainly the best one. The PerlPortal project aims to address the issue of out dated and ageing Perl sites, providing modern, new, Perl powered alternatives. It would be great if the CGI::Application mailing list was a part of this. More details about the PerlPortal.com project are here http://wiki.perlportal.com +1 for Sympa -- fREW Schmidt http://blog.afoolishmanifesto.com # CGI::Application community mailing list #### ## To unsubscribe, or change your message delivery options, ## ## visit: http://www.erlbaum.net/mailman/listinfo/cgiapp## #### ## Web archive: http://www.erlbaum.net/pipermail/cgiapp/ ## ## Wiki: http://cgiapp.erlbaum.net/ ## ####
Re: [cgiapp] Re: CGI::Application mailing list is evolving
Hi All -- On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Michael Peters mpet...@plusthree.comwrote: Things I want: + Reliable + Easy to use + A more common SCM system (not darcs). SVN is popular and tolerable. Git is nice and fast (and with something like github forking and fixing things becomes more a community thing than just patches in an RT ticket). + Web-based posting (but still keeping the email list) is nice because you don't have to join the group to participate with just a short quick question. I'm already subscribe to too many lists so whenever I can ask a quick question without having to subscribe again it's a win. +1 on all of this! And, also +1 on what John said about maintainers. What I talked to Mark about this morning was that I think the nature of how these projects can be supported is changing. There is a clear multiplicity of features which are useful, beyond just a mailing list. I've used Sourceforge, but I find it dated and shaky. Irrational though it may be, I get a much better feeling about something like Google Code ( http://code.google.com) + Google Groups. I feel like Google is here to stay, and actively gets it regarding software development AND open source. Jesse -- Jesse Erlbaum The Erlbaum Group, LLC 817 Broadway, 10th floor New York, NY 10003 212-684-6161 (office) 917-647-3059 (mobile) 212-684-6226 (fax) je...@erlbaum.net # CGI::Application community mailing list #### ## To unsubscribe, or change your message delivery options, ## ## visit: http://www.erlbaum.net/mailman/listinfo/cgiapp## #### ## Web archive: http://www.erlbaum.net/pipermail/cgiapp/ ## ## Wiki: http://cgiapp.erlbaum.net/ ## ####
Re: [cgiapp] Re: CGI::Application mailing list is evolving
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Jesse Erlbaum je...@erlbaum.net wrote: Irrational though it may be, I get a much better feeling about something like Google Code (http://code.google.com) + Google Groups. This being said: http://code.google.com/p/cgi-application/ Just playing around. Anyone want admin access to check this out, let me know. Jesse -- Jesse Erlbaum The Erlbaum Group, LLC 817 Broadway, 10th floor New York, NY 10003 212-684-6161 (office) 917-647-3059 (mobile) 212-684-6226 (fax) je...@erlbaum.net # CGI::Application community mailing list #### ## To unsubscribe, or change your message delivery options, ## ## visit: http://www.erlbaum.net/mailman/listinfo/cgiapp## #### ## Web archive: http://www.erlbaum.net/pipermail/cgiapp/ ## ## Wiki: http://cgiapp.erlbaum.net/ ## ####
Re: [cgiapp] Re: CGI::Application mailing list is evolving
I like Google Groups + Google Code. A good example would be what Rose has done: http://code.google.com/p/rose/ - Jason Mark Stosberg wrote: Please disregard. Yes, I apologize for the premature announcement. Let me take is opportunity to reframe the conversation, after speaking with Jesse who has now repaired the original mailing list. Performance issues aside, I think it's time that we consider moving to a next generation mailing-list / group-collaboration platform, and I'd like your input on what that is, or what features it has. Lyle Hopkins is offering one solution that is ready to go and I linked to earlier: http://lists.perlportal.com/sympa/info/cgiapp It provides a number of features including built-in archiving, web-based list management, RSS feeds, web-based posting and more. It's also written in Perl, with parts done in CGI::Application. We could also consider a commodity platform like a Google Group or similar. Which features are important to you? Are there particular services you recommend? We'll gather input for a few days and make a decision. Mark # CGI::Application community mailing list #### ## To unsubscribe, or change your message delivery options, ## ## visit: http://www.erlbaum.net/mailman/listinfo/cgiapp## #### ## Web archive: http://www.erlbaum.net/pipermail/cgiapp/ ## ## Wiki: http://cgiapp.erlbaum.net/ ## ####
Re: [cgiapp] Re: CGI::Application mailing list is evolving
Mark Stosberg wrote: Please disregard. Yes, I apologize for the premature announcement. Let me take is opportunity to reframe the conversation, after speaking with Jesse who has now repaired the original mailing list. Performance issues aside, I think it's time that we consider moving to a next generation mailing-list / group-collaboration platform, and I'd like your input on what that is, or what features it has. Lyle Hopkins is offering one solution that is ready to go and I linked to earlier: http://lists.perlportal.com/sympa/info/cgiapp It provides a number of features including built-in archiving, web-based list management, RSS feeds, web-based posting and more. It's also written in Perl, with parts done in CGI::Application. Sympa is written in Perl, but there was a little confusion in my email as it doesn't use CGI::Application. What I was saying was that the site www.perlportal.com (not yet live) will be using a new CGI::Application based CMS. I vote to use a Perl based system, and Sympa is certainly the best one. The PerlPortal project aims to address the issue of out dated and ageing Perl sites, providing modern, new, Perl powered alternatives. It would be great if the CGI::Application mailing list was a part of this. More details about the PerlPortal.com project are here http://wiki.perlportal.com Lyle # CGI::Application community mailing list #### ## To unsubscribe, or change your message delivery options, ## ## visit: http://www.erlbaum.net/mailman/listinfo/cgiapp## #### ## Web archive: http://www.erlbaum.net/pipermail/cgiapp/ ## ## Wiki: http://cgiapp.erlbaum.net/ ## ####
Re: [cgiapp] Re: CGI::Application mailing list is evolving
On 5/6/2009 2:02 PM, Mark Stosberg wrote: Which features are important to you? Are there particular services you recommend? We'll gather input for a few days and make a decision. well, i have very limited requirements: - mail gets delivered and archived i've never been too fond of web discussion portals- but tmtowtdi. one reason for going through something like google groups is that the membership can come and go and the mail keeps on going. sometimes, after a few years, the maintainer[s] of the email list will have gone on to other things, and will need to be bugged to find the time to fix this relic of their past. with an external provider, this should not be an issue. -- \js # CGI::Application community mailing list #### ## To unsubscribe, or change your message delivery options, ## ## visit: http://www.erlbaum.net/mailman/listinfo/cgiapp## #### ## Web archive: http://www.erlbaum.net/pipermail/cgiapp/ ## ## Wiki: http://cgiapp.erlbaum.net/ ## ####
Re: [cgiapp] Re: CGI::Application mailing list is evolving
Mark Stosberg wrote: It provides a number of features including built-in archiving, web-based list management, RSS feeds, web-based posting and more. It's also written in Perl, with parts done in CGI::Application. We could also consider a commodity platform like a Google Group or similar. I'd be ok with either of those. I don't care if it's all a single system as long as there's a simple place to put the links to all the things we care about. Which features are important to you? Are there particular services you recommend? Things I want: + Reliable + Easy to use + A more common SCM system (not darcs). SVN is popular and tolerable. Git is nice and fast (and with something like github forking and fixing things becomes more a community thing than just patches in an RT ticket). + Web-based posting (but still keeping the email list) is nice because you don't have to join the group to participate with just a short quick question. I'm already subscribe to too many lists so whenever I can ask a quick question without having to subscribe again it's a win. Things that make me go meh: + I'm not too big on RSS feeds for mailing lists, just seems kind of redundant. + Archives don't need to be built into the system since other systems do archiving and do it really well (http://www.markmail.org/) -- Michael Peters Plus Three, LP # CGI::Application community mailing list #### ## To unsubscribe, or change your message delivery options, ## ## visit: http://www.erlbaum.net/mailman/listinfo/cgiapp## #### ## Web archive: http://www.erlbaum.net/pipermail/cgiapp/ ## ## Wiki: http://cgiapp.erlbaum.net/ ## ####
