Re: [Chicken-users] Summer 2012 meetup in the UK?

2012-03-04 Thread Alaric Snell-Pym
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On 01/31/2012 04:03 PM, Alaric Snell-Pym wrote:

 In the resulting flurry of last-minute sign-ups, the end of September is
 now looking more popular!

 I'll keep you all posted...

OK, as promised (on IRC), I'm now finalising a date for CHICKEN UK 2012!

Looking at the responses on the Doodle, I think the best weekend for
everyone will be Friday the 28th September to Monday the 1st of October.

People are welcome to say in our house, and there's hotels and stuff
nearby for people who don't want to queue for the bathroom in the
morning! We have four guest beds, and loads of space to stretch out
sleeping bags.

You're welcome to come even if you didn't fill in the Doodle - the
Doodle existed to find a widespreadly agreeable date, not as a ticketing
system! I've certainly got enough space for everyone who signed up to
the Doodle, and we can fit a few more people, so just email me if you
didn't join the Doodle and would like to come.

I plan to organise technical and social events on those four days, but
people are welcome to stay over before and after that, be it if you want
to travel up at convenient times and be refreshed and settled before the
activities begin, or just for the heck of it.

As for the programme. I propose the following kinds of sessions;

1) Hacking sprints, where interested parties choose a project and hack
on it, alone or in groups. I'll have places to sit at laptops, with
Wifi, Ethernet, and UK and Euro power sockets.

2) Talks/presentations. Does anybody want to stand up and tell us about
anything? I can try and borrow a projector, and we've already got a
whiteboard!

3) Social events. For meals, we'll provide breakfast and lunch in the
house for all who want it (we're vegetarians, so tell me if you're a
vegan or beyond, or have allergies), for convenience, but I propose that
we go out for meals to save me the cooking and washing-up effort, and as
a pleasant outing. But if there's interest, we could also take an
afternoon or two out for an outing. Feel free to research Cheltenham,
Stroud and Gloucester on the Internet and see if there's anything that
appeals to you. I have three suggestions: We could go for a walk around
the beautiful grounds of Gloucester Cathedral and the Docks, or if we go
to Cheltenham we can drop into The Cheeseworks to look at bizarre
cheeses, or a walk in the countryside around the village I lived in
until recently. Oh, and if it's nasty and rainy outside, we have heaps
of board games, including the legendary Robo Rally
(http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=ah/prod/roborally). What do you
all think?

And remember: This isn't some big formal conference. It's us inviting
the Chicken community over to our new house for a nerdy housewarming :-)
So if there's something you'd like to suggest or ask, just say! Don't be
shy!

ABS

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[Chicken-users] See you at CeBit !

2012-03-04 Thread Jörg F . Wittenberger

Hi Chickeners,

to those of you who will be at CeBit the next days:
join us at our both at the security plaza hall 12!

We'll show you a pure chicken network! ( askemos.org )

Look out for the logo from softeyes.net .

Looking forward to see you there!

/Jörg






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Re: [Chicken-users] See you at CeBit !

2012-03-04 Thread Christian Kellermann
* Jörg F. Wittenberger joerg.wittenber...@softeyes.net [120304 20:10]:
 Hi Chickeners,
 
 to those of you who will be at CeBit the next days:
 join us at our both at the security plaza hall 12!
 
 We'll show you a pure chicken network! ( askemos.org )
 
 Look out for the logo from softeyes.net .
 
 Looking forward to see you there!

I am unable to be there but I wish you a successful CeBit!

Kind regards,

Christian

-- 
Who can (make) the muddy water (clear)? Let it be still, and it will
gradually become clear. Who can secure the condition of rest? Let
movement go on, and the condition of rest will gradually arise.
 -- Lao Tse. 

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Re: [Chicken-users] foreign: Why is passing structs as arguments and return-types not supported?

2012-03-04 Thread Kristian Lein-Mathisen
Hi guys,

I'd like to give a short status-update on the issue. Based on the feedback
on this thread and #chicken, the original plan was to patch up chicken-core
to support struct-by-val argument- and return-type passing.

This turned out to be very complex indeed. It's unclear of how to represent
these structs on the scheme-side. The easiest solution would be to
represent the struct with a blob. One problem here though is that it can't
be used on the scheme-side itself. This would give the struct-by-value
feature questionable usefulness.

On the other hand, the ideal struct representation on the scheme-side
should be some sort of record with slots corresponding to the struct
fields. That in turn requires giving the struct definition to chicken,
where the blob would otherwise only need the size. This involves complexity
levels I cannot pinpoint, but it's probably the reason this feature isn't
there in the first place!

I am therefore going to give plan B an attempt: modify chicken-bind instead
of chicken-core, and let it generate foreign struct-by-value wrappers.

Wish me luck fellas, and thanks for everyone's support on #chicken!
K.

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Moritz Heidkamp mor...@twoticketsplease.de
 wrote:

 Kristian Lein-Mathisen kristianl...@gmail.com writes:

  Any thoughts on how to pursue this?

 Another option would be to create a module which re-exports all
 `foreign' syntax wrapped with support for structs-by-value. Then just
 import your wrapper module instead of `foreign' in the code generated by
 `chicken-bind'.

 Moritz

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Re: [Chicken-users] Summer 2012 meetup in the UK?

2012-03-04 Thread John Cowan
Alaric Snell-Pym scripsit:

 And remember: This isn't some big formal conference. It's us inviting
 the Chicken community over to our new house for a nerdy housewarming :-)
 So if there's something you'd like to suggest or ask, just say! Don't be
 shy!

I do wish I could be there with you.  Unfortunately, it's not practical
for many reasons.

-- 
John Cowan  co...@ccil.org  http://www.ccil.org/~cowan
Thor Heyerdahl recounts his attempt to prove Rudyard Kipling's theory
that the mongoose first came to India on a raft from Polynesia.
--blurb for Rikki-Kon-Tiki-Tavi

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