Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP Next-Build

[Christopher Knowles]

Thanks for your response, Dan!  What I did was plug in the USB cable 
link and download the current configuration file from my BTECH UV-50X2 
(which I bought because of your positive review (I LOVE IT!)).  Then, I 
connected my Baofeng UV-XR and downloaded that radio's configuration 
file.  Then, when I tried "Recent Files", both files appeared.  Then, 
when I went to "Open", all the saved files appeared.  Thanks again, and 
keep up the good work! 73s, Chris Knowles, WD1E

On 3/17/2024 10:52 AM, Dan Smith via chirp_users wrote:
>> It looks like it reset the list. For me, it will after you've selected a
>> file.
> I recently re-wrote the algorithm that manages that list to try to make it 
> smarter and avoid the duplicates it likes to collect. I intended to preserve 
> the current list, but maybe that wasn't as successful in all situations as I 
> was hoping. Hopefully the new algorithm is worth it though :)
>
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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP Next-Build

[Dan Smith via chirp_users]

> It looks like it reset the list. For me, it will after you've selected a 
> file.

I recently re-wrote the algorithm that manages that list to try to make it 
smarter and avoid the duplicates it likes to collect. I intended to preserve 
the current list, but maybe that wasn't as successful in all situations as I 
was hoping. Hopefully the new algorithm is worth it though :)

--Dan
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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP Next-Build

[Christopher Knowles]

How do I find the previous files?  I have tried the File Explorer to 
look for files with a csv extension but have come up with nothing!

On 3/17/2024 8:02 AM, Steve Horning wrote:
> It looks like it reset the list. For me, it will after you've selected a
> file.
>
> 73 de N0XVZ, Steve
>
>
> On 3/17/2024 6:58 AM, Christopher Knowles wrote:
>> The new version of CHIRP will not display recently-open files.
>> Christopher Knowles, WD1E
>>
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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP (new user)

[Bobby Creech]

I don't have a mac either but check the cable is fully seated, if you turn
on the radio with the cable plugged in, you should not hear it make the
boot beep

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 12:04 PM ejpound via chirp_users <
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> Hello;
> Get a welcome screen, but nothing is active, either file or radio.  Have a
> Baofeng cable on a Mac Powerbook running Sonoma. Does popup menus need to
> be active?
>
>
> Thanks
> Ed
>
> Am attempting to use chirp to program my Baofeng 5R+.  Downloaded chirp,
> but no functionality at all.
>
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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP (new user)

[del ahlin]

I don't have a MAC, but assuming the software is relatively the same across
platforms, and that the cable you are using is good:
1. shut Chirp down
2. turn the radio off (might be a good idea to try another USB port on the
computer here as well)
3. turn the radio back on
4. restart Chirp. At that point you need to:
5. select "radio" from the menu
5. select "download from radio" and finally,
6. press "OK".

That should get things moving.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 9:04 AM ejpound via chirp_users <
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> Hello;
> Get a welcome screen, but nothing is active, either file or radio.  Have a
> Baofeng cable on a Mac Powerbook running Sonoma. Does popup menus need to
> be active?
>
>
> Thanks
> Ed
>
> Am attempting to use chirp to program my Baofeng 5R+.  Downloaded chirp,
> but no functionality at all.
>
> Resist the simps. Build families. Question authority. Workout. Eat meat.
> Own guns. Say what you believe.
>
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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP ?

[K0LNY ??]

I would like to make a minor, but important correction to the below:
and then "cut and paste" that same spreadsheet into the template for any
radio which accepts CHIRP files. Chris Knowles,
---
We really never cut and paste, unless we are moving text around in a single 
document
"cut and paste" is old-school terminology that came from when we actually 
used scissors and cut out things and used glue to paste them somewhere.
The distinction is important in computers, because we usually mean copy and 
paste, and when copying files, you can get into trouble cutting and pasting, 
and also, if a file is write protected, "cut" will not be an option.
It seems like a trivial difference, but I have seen this become a problem 
when some people are getting files from their cloud space.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Knowles" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP ?


Because handheld and mobile radios presume the user is in motion and may
not have both hands available, it is helpful to program frequently used
frequencies of repeaters and other stations into the radio. One way to
do it and the hardest is manually. Usually the second hardest is using
the software and spreadsheet provided by the manufacturer. The easiest
is CHIRP. I've had three handhelds and one mobile radio which I use as
my base station. They are all programmed the same. If you know how to
use Lotus 1-2-3, Supercalc, or any other spreadsheet program, you can
learn to prepare one spreadsheet covering all of the frequencies you use
and then "cut and paste" that same spreadsheet into the template for any
radio which accepts CHIRP files. Chris Knowles, WD1E

On 2/10/2024 5:06 PM, Ed Mylotte wrote:
> I don't understand WHY or HOW to use CHIRP.
> What will it do for me, a new ham?
> How do I combine or integrate it to my ham operations?
> How often does one NEED to employ it?
> It appears important, but can I just forget about it?
> Are there any other options available? V/R Ed, AD9AK
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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP ?

[Christopher Knowles]

Because handheld and mobile radios presume the user is in motion and may 
not have both hands available, it is helpful to program frequently used 
frequencies of repeaters and other stations into the radio.  One way to 
do it and the hardest is manually.  Usually the second hardest is using 
the software and spreadsheet provided by the manufacturer.  The easiest 
is CHIRP.  I've had three handhelds and one mobile radio which I use as 
my base station. They are all programmed the same.  If you know how to 
use Lotus 1-2-3, Supercalc, or any other spreadsheet program, you can 
learn to prepare one spreadsheet covering all of the frequencies you use 
and then "cut and paste" that same spreadsheet into the template for any 
radio which accepts CHIRP files.  Chris Knowles, WD1E

On 2/10/2024 5:06 PM, Ed Mylotte wrote:
> I don't understand WHY or HOW to use CHIRP.
> What will it do for me, a new ham?
> How do I combine or integrate it to my ham operations?
> How often does one NEED to employ it?
> It appears important, but can I just forget about it?
> Are there any other options available?   V/R Ed, AD9AK
>
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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP ?

[Stephen Hersey]

If you work a public service event such as a marathon, you will need to
program a dozen or more radio channels with offsets, CTCSS, etc .
Add a backup radio, the work doubles.
That's the use I put Chirp to.

Steve

On Sat, Feb 10, 2024, 5:08 PM Ed Mylotte  wrote:

> I don't understand WHY or HOW to use CHIRP.
> What will it do for me, a new ham?
> How do I combine or integrate it to my ham operations?
> How often does one NEED to employ it?
> It appears important, but can I just forget about it?
> Are there any other options available?   V/R Ed, AD9AK
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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP ?

[Jim Unroe]

Hi Ed,

On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 5:08 PM Ed Mylotte  wrote:
>
> I don't understand WHY or HOW to use CHIRP.
> What will it do for me, a new ham?

It will allow you to edit the memories and setting of a CHIRP supported radio.

> How do I combine or integrate it to my ham operations?

You use CHIRP will a supported computer, operating system and programming cable.

> How often does one NEED to employ it?

Only whenever you want to make changes to your radio's channels and settings.

> It appears important, but can I just forget about it?

This is up to you. Even if you have and use CHIRP, being able to
program your radio manually is a good skill to have.

> Are there any other options available?   V/R Ed, AD9AK

Yes. The programming software provided by the radios manufacturer and
other 3rd party providers of programming software. Plus you can always
program your radio manually (assuming it is one that can be programmed
manually).

Welcome to the hobby,
Jim KC9HI
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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP ?

[Mike Geiman]

Chirp is software to program your radios. There are other software and you
can always program directly on your radio.

On Sat, Feb 10, 2024, 4:07 PM Ed Mylotte  wrote:

> I don't understand WHY or HOW to use CHIRP.
> What will it do for me, a new ham?
> How do I combine or integrate it to my ham operations?
> How often does one NEED to employ it?
> It appears important, but can I just forget about it?
> Are there any other options available?   V/R Ed, AD9AK
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp Legacy EOL

[Jerry Kuhn]

Ok, sounds good.   Thank you for all your hard work,  by the way!

Sent from my iPhone Pro Max

> On Jan 31, 2024, at 11:17 PM, Dan Smith via chirp_users 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> Just out if curiosity, has Chirp-legacy reached s complete End of Lifecycle 
>> and there will never be anything past chirp-legacy-20221217?  I’ve migrated, 
>> for the most part, to Chirp-Next, but still occasionally use legacy and just 
>> was curious.
> 
> Yep, I should probably refresh some of the language about this on the site. 
> But yes, I'd say chirp-legacy is frozen forever at this point. I actually 
> don't even have a build system that can generate those packages anymore, so 
> it would take a huge effort to make that possible again.
> 
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp Legacy EOL

[Dan Smith via chirp_users]

> Just out if curiosity, has Chirp-legacy reached s complete End of Lifecycle 
> and there will never be anything past chirp-legacy-20221217?  I’ve migrated, 
> for the most part, to Chirp-Next, but still occasionally use legacy and just 
> was curious.

Yep, I should probably refresh some of the language about this on the site. But 
yes, I'd say chirp-legacy is frozen forever at this point. I actually don't 
even have a build system that can generate those packages anymore, so it would 
take a huge effort to make that possible again.

--Dan
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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP - UV-17 Pro GPS (Load Module with issue - 10648) and Settings

[John LaMartina]

The software Terri is referring to is
https://www.miklor.com/UV17pro/Mod124.php 

John

> On Jan 20, 2024, at 5:06 PM, Terri Kennedy  wrote:
> 
> On 2024-01-20 15:00, Dr. Herb Sims wrote:
>> Program the radio (my program has unique names for the banks).? Verify
>> Bank Names made the program.
>> 
>> Go to Radio Settings (3), ANI-Edit (19) and change the ANIC number.?
>> Bank Names all revert back to default (Bank 1, Bank 2, ?)
>> 
>> Can anyone else verify this undocumented feature?
> 
>   It is a bug in the firmware in the radio. There are a bunch of other
> known firmware bugs. My modified CPS provides a 50+ page manual which
> includes a section on firmware bugs - look for the section titled
> "Known radio firmware issues". You can get my modified CPS from the
> miklor.com website.
> 
>   Before you ask, there are no public firmware updates. Even the seller
> (Global Walkie Talkie Store) can't get them, even just to update their
> inventory. Radios ordered before roughly November 2023 came with firm-
> ware 1.27, radios ordered since come with Firmware 1.28. The new vers-
> ion does not fix any known bugs, it just adds a mysterious "Dis ANI"
> menu option and allows changing the Tx power on-the-fly using the "8"
> key on the keypad.
> 
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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP - UV-17 Pro GPS (Load Module with issue - 10648) and Settings

[Terri Kennedy]

On 2024-01-20 15:00, Dr. Herb Sims wrote:
> Program the radio (my program has unique names for the banks).? Verify
> Bank Names made the program.
> 
> Go to Radio Settings (3), ANI-Edit (19) and change the ANIC number.?
> Bank Names all revert back to default (Bank 1, Bank 2, ?)
> 
> Can anyone else verify this undocumented feature?

   It is a bug in the firmware in the radio. There are a bunch of other
known firmware bugs. My modified CPS provides a 50+ page manual which
includes a section on firmware bugs - look for the section titled
"Known radio firmware issues". You can get my modified CPS from the
miklor.com website.

   Before you ask, there are no public firmware updates. Even the seller
(Global Walkie Talkie Store) can't get them, even just to update their
inventory. Radios ordered before roughly November 2023 came with firm-
ware 1.27, radios ordered since come with Firmware 1.28. The new vers-
ion does not fix any known bugs, it just adds a mysterious "Dis ANI"
menu option and allows changing the Tx power on-the-fly using the "8"
key on the keypad.

--
 Terri Kennedy
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Re: [chirp_users] chirp release email links

[Lyle Giese]

I know Firefox and Chrome will try http: and if that fails try https 
before failing.  Not sure about Microsoft browsers, try not to use them.

But I think what is being referred to is, it's easy to program a website 
to auto-redirect http: to https: within the code inside the site.  And 
is what is being assumed here.

Lyle W9LRG

On 10/25/23 12:11, Rich NE1EE wrote:
> This sounds as if it should be true, but it is not. I have recently been 
> working with exactly this problem...a link to an http URL //sometimes// is 
> changed to https (not sure why, perhaps a DNS or browser problem), and an 
> error msg is generated because the certificate doesn't match the link. In 
> addition (not to argue, but to wonder), why not have the link be correct? I'm 
> gonna guess it is a single change to a template.
>
> Rich NE1EE
>
> On 2023-10-25 09:21:-0700, you wrote:
>> It doesn't really matter. http redirects to the same resource as https.
>>
>> 73
>> Danny, K5CG
>> HH 550-000-0609
>> SKCC 14257
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Rich NE1EE" 
>> To: "chirp users" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2023 6:03:25 PM
>> Subject: [chirp_users] chirp release email links
>>
>> >From an Oct 3 email, I have
>> You can get it from here:
>> http://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_next/
>>
>> *** Note this is http
>>
>> *** Now note that it actually resolved to
>> https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_next/
>> *** This is https !!!
>>
>> Perhaps it would be helpful to have the link the same as the actual target 
>> URL?
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Re: [chirp_users] chirp release email links

[Danny K5CG]

It doesn't really matter. http redirects to the same resource as https.

73 
Danny, K5CG 
HH 550-000-0609 
SKCC 14257

- Original Message -
From: "Rich NE1EE" 
To: "chirp users" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2023 6:03:25 PM
Subject: [chirp_users] chirp release email links

>From an Oct 3 email, I have
You can get it from here:
http://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_next/

*** Note this is http

*** Now note that it actually resolved to 
https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_next/
*** This is https !!!

Perhaps it would be helpful to have the link the same as the actual target URL?

73 Rich NE1EE
The Dusty Key
On the banks of the Piscataqua

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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Eric Oyen via chirp_users]

Another suggestion,

Make damned sure that the chirp version for linux works with the ORCA screen 
reader. I know this is a bit off topic for this thread, but if y’all are going 
to make sure that chirp actually works, then Make sure it works accessibly as 
well. Believe me, being a totally blind user and running radios requiring 
programming software in order to make them work properly is already enough of a 
PITA without having to deal with accessibility failures as well.

DE n7zzt
Eric


> On Oct 21, 2023, at 4:49 AM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr.  wrote:
> 
> Gene the OP sent this file (attached) showing he is running a 64 bit 
> processor AMD Ryzen 5 2500U with 16 GB RAM 64 bit OS, x64 processor. Running 
> Windows 10 Home version 22H2. 
> 
> He's tried the latest CHIRP-Next and one of the legacy CHIRP versions, and he 
> cannot get past the license agreement, he answers that he agrees to the 
> terms, but the installer seems to dissappear and CHIRP is never installed. 
> 
> I've suggested to him and sent him a tutorial to make a Live version of 
> Ubuntu Long Term Support (LTS) with persistence and then install CHIRP in it. 
> 
> I've also told him that his Windows installation is messed up and perhaps 
> will need a reinstall of his Windows 10 Home. 
> 
> I'm suggesting to him now additionally that it's possible or problem with RAM 
> failure as I have had several similar issues that finally were found to be 
> RAM failure. I ran RAM tests in the full expanded version from one of the 
> Live Linux iso on a USB STICK made with Rufus. I replaced the RAM and I had 
> no more issues with installation errors. 
> 
> I would like to suggest to anyone who has the knowledge that I lack and 
> suggest that the CHIRP developers produce a version of a Puppy Linux with the 
> latest version of Chirp-Next and upload it to Sourceforge.net as an update to 
> what Sourceforge.net user bgiff158 did years ago for Legacy CHIRP. 
> 
> 73 
> DR 
> N1EA 
> 
> 
> -- Forwarded message -----
> From: Gene mailto:jedi1...@gmail.com>>
> Date: Fri, Oct 20, 2023, 5:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install
> To: Dan Smith via chirp_users  <mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>>
> 
> 
> I have attached my system information. Don't know what else is needed. 
>> On 10/20/2023 5:05:59 PM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. > <mailto:n...@arrl.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> No, Marc, it's not necessicarily a PC issue. We don't know yet, because when 
>> he responds he has yet to give us the Type of Windows 10 he is running.
>> 
>> I've asked him several times, he will get the emails eventually.
>> 
>> He needs to tell us the Windows System type.
>> 
>> Gene,  this page tells you how to find your System type: 
>> https://www.howtogeek.com/697170/5-ways-to-quickly-open-the-system-window-on-windows-10/
>>  
>> <https://www.howtogeek.com/697170/5-ways-to-quickly-open-the-system-window-on-windows-10/>
>> 
>> Or shortcut key is the Windows key then the SysRQ/Pause key - which is the 
>> third key to the right of F12 on standard keyboard.
>> 
>> Copy the Device Specifications - there is a button to do this.
>> 
>> Mine is:
>> 
>> Device name DESKTOP-G62MJMS
>> Processor Intel(R) Celeron(R) N5105 @ 2.00GHz   2.00 GHz
>> Installed RAM 16.0 GB (15.8 GB usable)
>> Device ID AD3CA7D7-8EEE-44F8-A7DC-96906CC32031
>> Product ID 00355-60787-89786-AAOEM
>> System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
>> Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this display
>> 
>> There's also a button for Windows Specifications.  Mine is: 
>> Edition Windows 11 Pro
>> Version 22H2
>> Installed on ‎5/‎17/‎2023
>> OS build 22621.2428
>> Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22674.1000.0
>> 
>> Send them back to the list please.
>> 
>> 73
>> DR
>> N1EA
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 3:53 PM Marc > <mailto:marcptramont...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Thanks for clarifying this info. So if this is true, the installer should 
>> not be crashing midway or early on through the install. So he is having a PC 
>> issue. Most likely antivirus or malware.
>> 
>> Marc
>> 
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 3:37 PM Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF > <mailto:ni...@ngunn.net>> wrote:
>> It's not t

Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Roger Jane via chirp_users]

It IS a good trick. The rubber takes off any dust or gunk on the pins and allows them to make good contact. I suspect ‘grounding’ isn’t literal (except a pin or two) but it definitely does help with connectivity. These are tricks your grandmother tells you that you don’t find in books!Also, if you have an air spray or IPA, they’ll both be beneficial. Sent from my iPhoneOn 21 Oct 2023, at 19:11, D.J.J. Ring, Jr.  wrote:How do you "ground" something with a rubber eraser?73DRN1EAOn Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 12:48 PM Chuck Hast <kp4...@gmail.com> wrote:Doing proper grounding, the old trick used for years was aproper rubber pencil eraser. (I worked for DEC for severalyears and a wonky FlipChip usually got straight with thattreatment). Did wonders (it still does for me mind the groundingthough) and brings a lot of "bad" devices back to life.On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 10:43 AM Roger Jane via chirp_users <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:It’s refreshing that that still works - used to do that with a BBC Micro in the 80s!Sent from my iPhoneOn 21 Oct 2023, at 16:14, K0LNY ??  wrote:






Just to add to the RAM point,
Sometimes just removing it, and spraying air on the 
contacts will fix a RAM issue.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. 
To: Discussion of CHIRP 
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install


Gene the OP sent this file (attached) showing he is running a 64 bit 
processor AMD Ryzen 5 2500U with 16 GB RAM 64 bit OS, x64 processor. Running 
Windows 10 Home version 22H2. 

He's tried the latest CHIRP-Next and one of the legacy CHIRP versions, and 
he cannot get past the license agreement, he answers that he agrees to the 
terms, but the installer seems to dissappear and CHIRP is never 
installed. 

I've suggested to him and sent him a tutorial to make a Live version of 
Ubuntu Long Term Support (LTS) with persistence and then install CHIRP in 
it. 

I've also told him that his Windows installation is messed up and perhaps 
will need a reinstall of his Windows 10 Home. 

I'm suggesting to him now additionally that it's possible or problem with 
RAM failure as I have had several similar issues that finally were found to be 
RAM failure. I ran RAM tests in the full expanded version from one of the 
Live Linux iso on a USB STICK made with Rufus. I replaced the RAM and I had no 
more issues with installation errors. 

I would like to suggest to anyone who has the knowledge that I lack and 
suggest that the CHIRP developers produce a version of a Puppy Linux with the 
latest version of Chirp-Next and upload it to Sourceforge.net as an update to 
what Sourceforge.net user bgiff158 did years ago for Legacy CHIRP. 

73 
DR 
N1EA 



-- Forwarded message -From: 
Gene <jedi1...@gmail.com>Date: Fri, 
Oct 20, 2023, 5:33 PMSubject: Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not 
installTo: Dan Smith via chirp_users <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>
I have attached my system information. Don't know what else is 
needed. 


  On 10/20/2023 5:05:59 PM, D.J.J. 
  Ring, Jr. <n...@arrl.net> wrote:
  
  
  No, Marc, it's not 
  necessicarily a PC issue. We don't know yet, because when he responds he 
  has yet to give us the Type of Windows 10 he is running.
  
  I've asked him several times, 
  he will get the emails eventually.
  
  He needs to tell us the 
  Windows System type.
  
  Gene,  this page tells 
  you how to find your System type: https://www.howtogeek.com/697170/5-ways-to-quickly-open-the-system-window-on-windows-10/
  
  Or shortcut key is the 
  Windows key then the SysRQ/Pause key - which is the third key to the right of 
  F12 on standard keyboard.
  
  Copy the Device 
  Specifications - there is a button to do this.
  
  Mine is:
  
  Device name 
  DESKTOP-G62MJMSProcessor Intel(R) Celeron(R) N5105 @ 2.00GHz   2.00 
  GHzInstalled RAM 16.0 GB (15.8 GB usable)Device ID 
  AD3CA7D7-8EEE-44F8-A7DC-96906CC32031Product ID 
  00355-60787-89786-AAOEMSystem type 64-bit operating system, x64-based 
  processorPen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this 
  display
  
  There's also a button for 
  Windows Specifications.  Mine is: 
  Edition Windows 11 
  ProVersion 22H2Installed on ‎5/‎17/‎2023OS build 
  22621.2428Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 
  1000.22674.1000.0
  
  Send them back to the list 
  please.
  
  73
  DR
  N1EA
  
  
  
  


  
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  On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 3:53 PM Marc <marcptramont...@gmail.com> wrote:
  

Thanks for clarifying this info. So if this is true, the installer 
should not be crashing midway or early on through the install. So he is 
having a PC issue. Most likely antivirus or malware.

Marc

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 3:37 PM Nigel A. Gunn 
G8IFF/W8IFF <ni...@ngunn.net> wrote:
It's 
  not the processor type that's the problem. It's 

Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[D.J.J. Ring, Jr.]

How do you "ground" something with a rubber eraser?

73
DR
N1EA

On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 12:48 PM Chuck Hast  wrote:

> Doing proper grounding, the old trick used for years was a
> proper rubber pencil eraser. (I worked for DEC for several
> years and a wonky FlipChip usually got straight with that
> treatment). Did wonders (it still does for me mind the grounding
> though) and brings a lot of "bad" devices back to life.
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 10:43 AM Roger Jane via chirp_users <
> chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
>
>> 
>> 
>> It’s refreshing that that still works - used to do that with a BBC Micro
>> in the 80s!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 21 Oct 2023, at 16:14, K0LNY ??  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Just to add to the RAM point,
>> Sometimes just removing it, and spraying air on the contacts will fix a
>> RAM issue.
>> Glenn
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* D.J.J. Ring, Jr. 
>> *To:* Discussion of CHIRP 
>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 21, 2023 6:49 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install
>>
>> Gene the OP sent this file (attached) showing he is running a 64 bit
>> processor AMD Ryzen 5 2500U with 16 GB RAM 64 bit OS, x64 processor.
>> Running Windows 10 Home version 22H2.
>>
>> He's tried the latest CHIRP-Next and one of the legacy CHIRP versions,
>> and he cannot get past the license agreement, he answers that he agrees to
>> the terms, but the installer seems to dissappear and CHIRP is never
>> installed.
>>
>> I've suggested to him and sent him a tutorial to make a Live version of
>> Ubuntu Long Term Support (LTS) with persistence and then install CHIRP in
>> it.
>>
>> I've also told him that his Windows installation is messed up and perhaps
>> will need a reinstall of his Windows 10 Home.
>>
>> I'm suggesting to him now additionally that it's possible or problem with
>> RAM failure as I have had several similar issues that finally were found to
>> be RAM failure. I ran RAM tests in the full expanded version from one of
>> the Live Linux iso on a USB STICK made with Rufus. I replaced the RAM and I
>> had no more issues with installation errors.
>>
>> I would like to suggest to anyone who has the knowledge that I lack and
>> suggest that the CHIRP developers produce a version of a Puppy Linux with
>> the latest version of Chirp-Next and upload it to Sourceforge.net as an
>> update to what Sourceforge.net user bgiff158 did years ago for Legacy
>> CHIRP.
>>
>> 73
>> DR
>> N1EA
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: Gene 
>> Date: Fri, Oct 20, 2023, 5:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install
>> To: Dan Smith via chirp_users 
>>
>>
>> I have attached my system information. Don't know what else is needed.
>>
>> On 10/20/2023 5:05:59 PM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr.  wrote:
>> No, Marc, it's not necessicarily a PC issue. We don't know yet, because
>> when he responds he has yet to give us the Type of Windows 10 he is running.
>>
>> I've asked him several times, he will get the emails eventually.
>>
>> He needs to tell us the Windows System type.
>>
>> Gene,  this page tells you how to find your System type:
>> https://www.howtogeek.com/697170/5-ways-to-quickly-open-the-system-window-on-windows-10/
>>
>> Or shortcut key is the Windows key then the SysRQ/Pause key - which is
>> the third key to the right of F12 on standard keyboard.
>>
>> Copy the Device Specifications - there is a button to do this.
>>
>> Mine is:
>>
>> Device name DESKTOP-G62MJMS
>> Processor Intel(R) Celeron(R) N5105 @ 2.00GHz   2.00 GHz
>> Installed RAM 16.0 GB (15.8 GB usable)
>> Device ID AD3CA7D7-8EEE-44F8-A7DC-96906CC32031
>> Product ID 00355-60787-89786-AAOEM
>> System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
>> Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this display
>>
>> There's also a button for Windows Specifications.  Mine is:
>> Edition Windows 11 Pro
>> Version 22H2
>> Installed on ‎5/‎17/‎2023
>> OS build 22621.2428
>> Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22674.1000.0
>>
>> Send them back to the list please.
>>
>> 73
>> DR
>> N1EA
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Chuck Hast]

Doing proper grounding, the old trick used for years was a
proper rubber pencil eraser. (I worked for DEC for several
years and a wonky FlipChip usually got straight with that
treatment). Did wonders (it still does for me mind the grounding
though) and brings a lot of "bad" devices back to life.


On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 10:43 AM Roger Jane via chirp_users <
chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> It’s refreshing that that still works - used to do that with a BBC Micro
> in the 80s!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 21 Oct 2023, at 16:14, K0LNY ??  wrote:
>
> 
> Just to add to the RAM point,
> Sometimes just removing it, and spraying air on the contacts will fix a
> RAM issue.
> Glenn
> - Original Message -
> *From:* D.J.J. Ring, Jr. 
> *To:* Discussion of CHIRP 
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 21, 2023 6:49 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install
>
> Gene the OP sent this file (attached) showing he is running a 64 bit
> processor AMD Ryzen 5 2500U with 16 GB RAM 64 bit OS, x64 processor.
> Running Windows 10 Home version 22H2.
>
> He's tried the latest CHIRP-Next and one of the legacy CHIRP versions, and
> he cannot get past the license agreement, he answers that he agrees to the
> terms, but the installer seems to dissappear and CHIRP is never installed.
>
> I've suggested to him and sent him a tutorial to make a Live version of
> Ubuntu Long Term Support (LTS) with persistence and then install CHIRP in
> it.
>
> I've also told him that his Windows installation is messed up and perhaps
> will need a reinstall of his Windows 10 Home.
>
> I'm suggesting to him now additionally that it's possible or problem with
> RAM failure as I have had several similar issues that finally were found to
> be RAM failure. I ran RAM tests in the full expanded version from one of
> the Live Linux iso on a USB STICK made with Rufus. I replaced the RAM and I
> had no more issues with installation errors.
>
> I would like to suggest to anyone who has the knowledge that I lack and
> suggest that the CHIRP developers produce a version of a Puppy Linux with
> the latest version of Chirp-Next and upload it to Sourceforge.net as an
> update to what Sourceforge.net user bgiff158 did years ago for Legacy
> CHIRP.
>
> 73
> DR
> N1EA
>
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Gene 
> Date: Fri, Oct 20, 2023, 5:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install
> To: Dan Smith via chirp_users 
>
>
> I have attached my system information. Don't know what else is needed.
>
> On 10/20/2023 5:05:59 PM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr.  wrote:
> No, Marc, it's not necessicarily a PC issue. We don't know yet, because
> when he responds he has yet to give us the Type of Windows 10 he is running.
>
> I've asked him several times, he will get the emails eventually.
>
> He needs to tell us the Windows System type.
>
> Gene,  this page tells you how to find your System type:
> https://www.howtogeek.com/697170/5-ways-to-quickly-open-the-system-window-on-windows-10/
>
> Or shortcut key is the Windows key then the SysRQ/Pause key - which is the
> third key to the right of F12 on standard keyboard.
>
> Copy the Device Specifications - there is a button to do this.
>
> Mine is:
>
> Device name DESKTOP-G62MJMS
> Processor Intel(R) Celeron(R) N5105 @ 2.00GHz   2.00 GHz
> Installed RAM 16.0 GB (15.8 GB usable)
> Device ID AD3CA7D7-8EEE-44F8-A7DC-96906CC32031
> Product ID 00355-60787-89786-AAOEM
> System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
> Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this display
>
> There's also a button for Windows Specifications.  Mine is:
> Edition Windows 11 Pro
> Version 22H2
> Installed on ‎5/‎17/‎2023
> OS build 22621.2428
> Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22674.1000.0
>
> Send them back to the list please.
>
> 73
> DR
> N1EA
>
>
>
>
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> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 3:53 PM Marc  wrote:
>
>> Thanks for clarifying this info. So if this is true, the installer should
>> not be crashing midway or early on through the install. So he is having a
>> PC issue. Most likely antivirus or malware.
>>
>> Marc
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 3:37 PM Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <
>> ni...@ngunn.net> wrote:
>>
>>> It's not the processor type that's 

Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Roger Jane via chirp_users]

It’s refreshing that that still works - used to do that with a BBC Micro in the 80s!Sent from my iPhoneOn 21 Oct 2023, at 16:14, K0LNY ??  wrote:






Just to add to the RAM point,
Sometimes just removing it, and spraying air on the 
contacts will fix a RAM issue.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. 
To: Discussion of CHIRP 
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install


Gene the OP sent this file (attached) showing he is running a 64 bit 
processor AMD Ryzen 5 2500U with 16 GB RAM 64 bit OS, x64 processor. Running 
Windows 10 Home version 22H2. 

He's tried the latest CHIRP-Next and one of the legacy CHIRP versions, and 
he cannot get past the license agreement, he answers that he agrees to the 
terms, but the installer seems to dissappear and CHIRP is never 
installed. 

I've suggested to him and sent him a tutorial to make a Live version of 
Ubuntu Long Term Support (LTS) with persistence and then install CHIRP in 
it. 

I've also told him that his Windows installation is messed up and perhaps 
will need a reinstall of his Windows 10 Home. 

I'm suggesting to him now additionally that it's possible or problem with 
RAM failure as I have had several similar issues that finally were found to be 
RAM failure. I ran RAM tests in the full expanded version from one of the 
Live Linux iso on a USB STICK made with Rufus. I replaced the RAM and I had no 
more issues with installation errors. 

I would like to suggest to anyone who has the knowledge that I lack and 
suggest that the CHIRP developers produce a version of a Puppy Linux with the 
latest version of Chirp-Next and upload it to Sourceforge.net as an update to 
what Sourceforge.net user bgiff158 did years ago for Legacy CHIRP. 

73 
DR 
N1EA 



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Gene <jedi1...@gmail.com>Date: Fri, 
Oct 20, 2023, 5:33 PMSubject: Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not 
installTo: Dan Smith via chirp_users <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>
I have attached my system information. Don't know what else is 
needed. 


  On 10/20/2023 5:05:59 PM, D.J.J. 
  Ring, Jr. <n...@arrl.net> wrote:
  
  
  No, Marc, it's not 
  necessicarily a PC issue. We don't know yet, because when he responds he 
  has yet to give us the Type of Windows 10 he is running.
  
  I've asked him several times, 
  he will get the emails eventually.
  
  He needs to tell us the 
  Windows System type.
  
  Gene,  this page tells 
  you how to find your System type: https://www.howtogeek.com/697170/5-ways-to-quickly-open-the-system-window-on-windows-10/
  
  Or shortcut key is the 
  Windows key then the SysRQ/Pause key - which is the third key to the right of 
  F12 on standard keyboard.
  
  Copy the Device 
  Specifications - there is a button to do this.
  
  Mine is:
  
  Device name 
  DESKTOP-G62MJMSProcessor Intel(R) Celeron(R) N5105 @ 2.00GHz   2.00 
  GHzInstalled RAM 16.0 GB (15.8 GB usable)Device ID 
  AD3CA7D7-8EEE-44F8-A7DC-96906CC32031Product ID 
  00355-60787-89786-AAOEMSystem type 64-bit operating system, x64-based 
  processorPen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this 
  display
  
  There's also a button for 
  Windows Specifications.  Mine is: 
  Edition Windows 11 
  ProVersion 22H2Installed on ‎5/‎17/‎2023OS build 
  22621.2428Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 
  1000.22674.1000.0
  
  Send them back to the list 
  please.
  
  73
  DR
  N1EA
  
  
  
  


  
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  On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 3:53 PM Marc <marcptramont...@gmail.com> wrote:
  

Thanks for clarifying this info. So if this is true, the installer 
should not be crashing midway or early on through the install. So he is 
having a PC issue. Most likely antivirus or malware.

Marc

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 3:37 PM Nigel A. Gunn 
G8IFF/W8IFF <ni...@ngunn.net> wrote:
It's 
  not the processor type that's the problem. It's the OS 
  version.> On 20/10/2023 15:33 EDT Roger Jane via chirp_users 
  <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:> 
  >  > Could the 64 bit installer be compiled as 32 bit 
  then warn the user, politely , that it can’t continue and why when it 
  checks the processor type?> ngunn.net___chirp_users 
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[K0LNY ??]

Just to add to the RAM point,
Sometimes just removing it, and spraying air on the contacts will fix a RAM 
issue.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. 
To: Discussion of CHIRP 
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install


Gene the OP sent this file (attached) showing he is running a 64 bit processor 
AMD Ryzen 5 2500U with 16 GB RAM 64 bit OS, x64 processor. Running Windows 10 
Home version 22H2. 


He's tried the latest CHIRP-Next and one of the legacy CHIRP versions, and he 
cannot get past the license agreement, he answers that he agrees to the terms, 
but the installer seems to dissappear and CHIRP is never installed. 


I've suggested to him and sent him a tutorial to make a Live version of Ubuntu 
Long Term Support (LTS) with persistence and then install CHIRP in it. 


I've also told him that his Windows installation is messed up and perhaps will 
need a reinstall of his Windows 10 Home. 


I'm suggesting to him now additionally that it's possible or problem with RAM 
failure as I have had several similar issues that finally were found to be RAM 
failure. I ran RAM tests in the full expanded version from one of the Live 
Linux iso on a USB STICK made with Rufus. I replaced the RAM and I had no more 
issues with installation errors. 


I would like to suggest to anyone who has the knowledge that I lack and suggest 
that the CHIRP developers produce a version of a Puppy Linux with the latest 
version of Chirp-Next and upload it to Sourceforge.net as an update to what 
Sourceforge.net user bgiff158 did years ago for Legacy CHIRP. 


73 
DR 
N1EA 




-- Forwarded message -
From: Gene 
Date: Fri, Oct 20, 2023, 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install
To: Dan Smith via chirp_users 




I have attached my system information. Don't know what else is needed. 

  On 10/20/2023 5:05:59 PM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr.  wrote:

  No, Marc, it's not necessicarily a PC issue. We don't know yet, because when 
he responds he has yet to give us the Type of Windows 10 he is running.


  I've asked him several times, he will get the emails eventually.


  He needs to tell us the Windows System type.


  Gene,  this page tells you how to find your System type: 
https://www.howtogeek.com/697170/5-ways-to-quickly-open-the-system-window-on-windows-10/


  Or shortcut key is the Windows key then the SysRQ/Pause key - which is the 
third key to the right of F12 on standard keyboard.


  Copy the Device Specifications - there is a button to do this.


  Mine is:


  Device name DESKTOP-G62MJMS
  Processor Intel(R) Celeron(R) N5105 @ 2.00GHz   2.00 GHz
  Installed RAM 16.0 GB (15.8 GB usable)
  Device ID AD3CA7D7-8EEE-44F8-A7DC-96906CC32031
  Product ID 00355-60787-89786-AAOEM
  System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
  Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this display



  There's also a button for Windows Specifications.  Mine is: 
  Edition Windows 11 Pro
  Version 22H2
  Installed on ‎5/‎17/‎2023
  OS build 22621.2428
  Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22674.1000.0



  Send them back to the list please.


  73
  DR
  N1EA





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  On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 3:53 PM Marc  wrote:

Thanks for clarifying this info. So if this is true, the installer should 
not be crashing midway or early on through the install. So he is having a PC 
issue. Most likely antivirus or malware.



Marc



On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 3:37 PM Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF  
wrote:

  It's not the processor type that's the problem. It's the OS version.

  > On 20/10/2023 15:33 EDT Roger Jane via chirp_users 
 wrote:
  > 
  >  
  > Could the 64 bit installer be compiled as 32 bit then warn the user, 
politely , that it can’t continue and why when it checks the processor type?
  > 
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Dan Smith via chirp_users]

> Dan - This is the error when trying to install today's next on a 32 bit Win 
> 10 system.

Perfect, thanks for the confirmation!

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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Roger Jane via chirp_users]

Excellent, Dan!  That will probably stop a lot of future questions and 
confusion. 


Sent from my iPhone

> On 21 Oct 2023, at 14:34, Dan Smith via chirp_users 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> the 32 bit zip file works all the time for me, and doesn't need to be 
>> installed. Just unzip and run.
> 
> Since this has come up a few times now and people are quite confused, I just 
> wanted to clarify:
> 
> There is *no* 32-bit Windows version of CHIRP-next, and there hasn't been 
> since we started at the beginning of the year. The zip file is named "win32" 
> because that is what a lot of non-Windows people (i.e. me) have called the 
> platform for decades. However, that's not proper terminology for 64-bit 
> windows and what was inside that zip file is a 64-bit (only) binary. You can 
> see it from task manager:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I've fixed that in today's build so it's now properly referred to as "win64".
> 
> Today's installer should also run on 32-bit machines and tell the user in no 
> uncertain terms that 64-bit is required (if anyone has a 32-bit system around 
> to help confirm, I'd appreciate it). It also checks the OS version and makes 
> sure you're running windows 10 or later to avoid installing it only to find 
> it won't run.
> 
> Hopefully that will clarify things a bit for the future!
> 
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Dan Smith via chirp_users]

> the 32 bit zip file works all the time for me, and doesn't need to be 
> installed. Just unzip and run.

Since this has come up a few times now and people are quite confused, I just 
wanted to clarify:

There is *no* 32-bit Windows version of CHIRP-next, and there hasn't been since 
we started at the beginning of the year. The zip file is named "win32" because 
that is what a lot of non-Windows people (i.e. me) have called the platform for 
decades. However, that's not proper terminology for 64-bit windows and what was 
inside that zip file is a 64-bit (only) binary. You can see it from task 
manager:



I've fixed that in today's build so it's now properly referred to as "win64".

Today's installer should also run on 32-bit machines and tell the user in no 
uncertain terms that 64-bit is required (if anyone has a 32-bit system around 
to help confirm, I'd appreciate it). It also checks the OS version and makes 
sure you're running windows 10 or later to avoid installing it only to find it 
won't run.

Hopefully that will clarify things a bit for the future!

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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Roger Jane via chirp_users]

I’m on a train so difficult to investigate myself, but is there a docker containerised version available. On the whole, if the customer can jump the ‘running docker’ hurdle and enable USB access, it should be a fairly universal solution?Sent from my iPhoneOn 21 Oct 2023, at 12:51, D.J.J. Ring, Jr.  wrote:Gene the OP sent this file (attached) showing he is running a 64 bit processor AMD Ryzen 5 2500U with 16 GB RAM 64 bit OS, x64 processor. Running Windows 10 Home version 22H2. He's tried the latest CHIRP-Next and one of the legacy CHIRP versions, and he cannot get past the license agreement, he answers that he agrees to the terms, but the installer seems to dissappear and CHIRP is never installed. I've suggested to him and sent him a tutorial to make a Live version of Ubuntu Long Term Support (LTS) with persistence and then install CHIRP in it. I've also told him that his Windows installation is messed up and perhaps will need a reinstall of his Windows 10 Home. I'm suggesting to him now additionally that it's possible or problem with RAM failure as I have had several similar issues that finally were found to be RAM failure. I ran RAM tests in the full expanded version from one of the Live Linux iso on a USB STICK made with Rufus. I replaced the RAM and I had no more issues with installation errors. I would like to suggest to anyone who has the knowledge that I lack and suggest that the CHIRP developers produce a version of a Puppy Linux with the latest version of Chirp-Next and upload it to Sourceforge.net as an update to what Sourceforge.net user bgiff158 did years ago for Legacy CHIRP. 73 DR N1EA -- Forwarded message -From: Gene <jedi1...@gmail.com>Date: Fri, Oct 20, 2023, 5:33 PMSubject: Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not installTo: Dan Smith via chirp_users <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>





I have attached my system information. Don't know what else is needed. 
On 10/20/2023 5:05:59 PM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n...@arrl.net> wrote:No, Marc, it's not necessicarily a PC issue. We don't know yet, because when he responds he has yet to give us the Type of Windows 10 he is running.I've asked him several times, he will get the emails eventually.He needs to tell us the Windows System type.Gene,  this page tells you how to find your System type: https://www.howtogeek.com/697170/5-ways-to-quickly-open-the-system-window-on-windows-10/Or shortcut key is the Windows key then the SysRQ/Pause key - which is the third key to the right of F12 on standard keyboard.Copy the Device Specifications - there is a button to do this.Mine is:Device name	DESKTOP-G62MJMSProcessor	Intel(R) Celeron(R) N5105 @ 2.00GHz   2.00 GHzInstalled RAM	16.0 GB (15.8 GB usable)Device ID	AD3CA7D7-8EEE-44F8-A7DC-96906CC32031Product ID	00355-60787-89786-AAOEMSystem type	64-bit operating system, x64-based processorPen and touch	No pen or touch input is available for this displayThere's also a button for Windows Specifications.  Mine is: Edition	Windows 11 ProVersion	22H2Installed on	‎5/‎17/‎2023OS build	22621.2428Experience	Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22674.1000.0Send them back to the list please.73DRN1EAVirus-free.www.avast.comOn Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 3:53 PM Marc <marcptramont...@gmail.com> wrote:Thanks for clarifying this info. So if this is true, the installer should not be crashing midway or early on through the install. So he is having a PC issue. Most likely antivirus or malware.MarcOn Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 3:37 PM Nigel A. Gunn  G8IFF/W8IFF <ni...@ngunn.net> wrote:It's not the processor type that's the problem. It's the OS version.

> On 20/10/2023 15:33 EDT Roger Jane via chirp_users <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> Could the 64 bit installer be compiled as 32 bit then warn the user, politely , that it can’t continue and why when it checks the processor type?
> 
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[D.J.J. Ring, Jr.]

Gene the OP sent this file (attached) showing he is running a 64 bit
processor AMD Ryzen 5 2500U with 16 GB RAM 64 bit OS, x64 processor.
Running Windows 10 Home version 22H2.

He's tried the latest CHIRP-Next and one of the legacy CHIRP versions, and
he cannot get past the license agreement, he answers that he agrees to the
terms, but the installer seems to dissappear and CHIRP is never installed.

I've suggested to him and sent him a tutorial to make a Live version of
Ubuntu Long Term Support (LTS) with persistence and then install CHIRP in
it.

I've also told him that his Windows installation is messed up and perhaps
will need a reinstall of his Windows 10 Home.

I'm suggesting to him now additionally that it's possible or problem with
RAM failure as I have had several similar issues that finally were found to
be RAM failure. I ran RAM tests in the full expanded version from one of
the Live Linux iso on a USB STICK made with Rufus. I replaced the RAM and I
had no more issues with installation errors.

I would like to suggest to anyone who has the knowledge that I lack and
suggest that the CHIRP developers produce a version of a Puppy Linux with
the latest version of Chirp-Next and upload it to Sourceforge.net as an
update to what Sourceforge.net user bgiff158 did years ago for Legacy
CHIRP.

73
DR
N1EA


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From: Gene 
Date: Fri, Oct 20, 2023, 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install
To: Dan Smith via chirp_users 


I have attached my system information. Don't know what else is needed.

On 10/20/2023 5:05:59 PM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr.  wrote:
No, Marc, it's not necessicarily a PC issue. We don't know yet, because
when he responds he has yet to give us the Type of Windows 10 he is running.

I've asked him several times, he will get the emails eventually.

He needs to tell us the Windows System type.

Gene,  this page tells you how to find your System type:
https://www.howtogeek.com/697170/5-ways-to-quickly-open-the-system-window-on-windows-10/

Or shortcut key is the Windows key then the SysRQ/Pause key - which is the
third key to the right of F12 on standard keyboard.

Copy the Device Specifications - there is a button to do this.

Mine is:

Device name DESKTOP-G62MJMS
Processor Intel(R) Celeron(R) N5105 @ 2.00GHz   2.00 GHz
Installed RAM 16.0 GB (15.8 GB usable)
Device ID AD3CA7D7-8EEE-44F8-A7DC-96906CC32031
Product ID 00355-60787-89786-AAOEM
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this display

There's also a button for Windows Specifications.  Mine is:
Edition Windows 11 Pro
Version 22H2
Installed on ‎5/‎17/‎2023
OS build 22621.2428
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22674.1000.0

Send them back to the list please.

73
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On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 3:53 PM Marc  wrote:

> Thanks for clarifying this info. So if this is true, the installer should
> not be crashing midway or early on through the install. So he is having a
> PC issue. Most likely antivirus or malware.
>
> Marc
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 3:37 PM Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF 
> wrote:
>
>> It's not the processor type that's the problem. It's the OS version.
>>
>> > On 20/10/2023 15:33 EDT Roger Jane via chirp_users <
>> chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Could the 64 bit installer be compiled as 32 bit then warn the user,
>> politely , that it can’t continue and why when it checks the processor
>> type?
>> >
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> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 4:16 PM, Michael E. Jaggers  >
> wrote:
>
> This still begs the question: What about Chirp requires it to be built in
> 64-bit? Is it a requirement of the current version of Python?
>
> Mike, WB4TTZ
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dan Smith , Discussion of CHIRP <
> chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com>
> Sent: Oct 20, 2023 4:12 PM
> To: Discussion of CHIRP 
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install
>
> > No, Marc, it's not necessicarily a PC issue. We don't know yet, because
> when he responds he has yet to give us the Type of Windows 10 he is running.
>
> The installer is 32-bit and will run just fine on even a pretty old
> machine (32-bit and Windows XP), so there's really nothing about his system
> being incompatible that should be causing the behavior he's seeing. Thus,
> knowing the architecture and version of his OS is pretty immaterial at this
> point. I'd place serious money on it being some sort of "security" software
> killing the installer as soon as it sees it do something totally legit that
> it decides is suspicious.
>
> For the rest of the readers in this thread, the installer we use is a
> separate thing and not under the direct control of the CHIRP project. It's
> a 32-bit application because it doesn't need to be a 64-bit one and gives
> the best opportunity to run everywhere as a result. However, I'm working on
> adding an architecture and OS version check to the script so that it will
> positively identify these unsupported situations in the future. That will
> rule out any need to suspect these sorts of issues when someone reports a
> problem.
>
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Michael E. Jaggers]

This still begs the question:  What about Chirp requires it to be built in 
64-bit?  Is it a requirement of the current version of Python?

Mike, WB4TTZ

-Original Message-
From: Dan Smith , Discussion of CHIRP 

Sent: Oct 20, 2023 4:12 PM
To: Discussion of CHIRP 
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

> No, Marc, it's not necessicarily a PC issue. We don't know yet, because when 
> he responds he has yet to give us the Type of Windows 10 he is running.

The installer is 32-bit and will run just fine on even a pretty old machine 
(32-bit and Windows XP), so there's really nothing about his system being 
incompatible that should be causing the behavior he's seeing. Thus, knowing the 
architecture and version of his OS is pretty immaterial at this point. I'd 
place serious money on it being some sort of "security" software killing the 
installer as soon as it sees it do something totally legit that it decides is 
suspicious.

For the rest of the readers in this thread, the installer we use is a separate 
thing and not under the direct control of the CHIRP project. It's a 32-bit 
application because it doesn't need to be a 64-bit one and gives the best 
opportunity to run everywhere as a result. However, I'm working on adding an 
architecture and OS version check to the script so that it will positively 
identify these unsupported situations in the future. That will rule out any 
need to suspect these sorts of issues when someone reports a problem.

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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Marc]

Those things are never off unfortunately. Depend on what it is.

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023, 6:58 PM Gene  wrote:

> I have turned the Firewall and Antivirus off and has no affect on the
> install.
>
> On 10/20/2023 6:01:51 PM, Marc  wrote:
> I have to agree with Dan, something is killing the installer. Hopefully
> Dan will be able to figure it our for you. What type of antivirus software
> are you running?
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023, 5:40 PM Gene  wrote:
>
>> I have. Several times.
>>
>> On 10/20/2023 5:37:55 PM, Marc  wrote:
>> Gene,
>>
>> Have you tried right clicking on the installer and clicking run as
>> administrator?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023, 5:33 PM Gene  wrote:
>>
>>> I have attached my system information. Don't know what else is needed.
>>>
>>> On 10/20/2023 5:05:59 PM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr.  wrote:
>>> No, Marc, it's not necessicarily a PC issue. We don't know yet, because
>>> when he responds he has yet to give us the Type of Windows 10 he is running.
>>>
>>> I've asked him several times, he will get the emails eventually.
>>>
>>> He needs to tell us the Windows System type.
>>>
>>> Gene,  this page tells you how to find your System type:
>>> https://www.howtogeek.com/697170/5-ways-to-quickly-open-the-system-window-on-windows-10/
>>>
>>> Or shortcut key is the Windows key then the SysRQ/Pause key - which is
>>> the third key to the right of F12 on standard keyboard.
>>>
>>> Copy the Device Specifications - there is a button to do this.
>>>
>>> Mine is:
>>>
>>> Device name DESKTOP-G62MJMS
>>> Processor Intel(R) Celeron(R) N5105 @ 2.00GHz   2.00 GHz
>>> Installed RAM 16.0 GB (15.8 GB usable)
>>> Device ID AD3CA7D7-8EEE-44F8-A7DC-96906CC32031
>>> Product ID 00355-60787-89786-AAOEM
>>> System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
>>> Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this display
>>>
>>> There's also a button for Windows Specifications.  Mine is:
>>> Edition Windows 11 Pro
>>> Version 22H2
>>> Installed on ‎5/‎17/‎2023
>>> OS build 22621.2428
>>> Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22674.1000.0
>>>
>>> Send them back to the list please.
>>>
>>> 73
>>> DR
>>> N1EA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> Virus-free.www.avast.com
>>> 
>>> <#m_3534265687194770616_m_1949901803835001338_m_-7290289564005254676_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 3:53 PM Marc  wrote:
>>>
 Thanks for clarifying this info. So if this is true, the installer
 should not be crashing midway or early on through the install. So he is
 having a PC issue. Most likely antivirus or malware.

 Marc

 On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 3:37 PM Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <
 ni...@ngunn.net> wrote:

> It's not the processor type that's the problem. It's the OS version.
>
> > On 20/10/2023 15:33 EDT Roger Jane via chirp_users <
> chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Could the 64 bit installer be compiled as 32 bit then warn the user,
> politely , that it can’t continue and why when it checks the processor
> type?
> >
> ngunn.net
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Marc]

I have to agree with Dan, something is killing the installer. Hopefully Dan
will be able to figure it our for you. What type of antivirus software are
you running?

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023, 5:40 PM Gene  wrote:

> I have. Several times.
>
> On 10/20/2023 5:37:55 PM, Marc  wrote:
> Gene,
>
> Have you tried right clicking on the installer and clicking run as
> administrator?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023, 5:33 PM Gene  wrote:
>
>> I have attached my system information. Don't know what else is needed.
>>
>> On 10/20/2023 5:05:59 PM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr.  wrote:
>> No, Marc, it's not necessicarily a PC issue. We don't know yet, because
>> when he responds he has yet to give us the Type of Windows 10 he is running.
>>
>> I've asked him several times, he will get the emails eventually.
>>
>> He needs to tell us the Windows System type.
>>
>> Gene,  this page tells you how to find your System type:
>> https://www.howtogeek.com/697170/5-ways-to-quickly-open-the-system-window-on-windows-10/
>>
>> Or shortcut key is the Windows key then the SysRQ/Pause key - which is
>> the third key to the right of F12 on standard keyboard.
>>
>> Copy the Device Specifications - there is a button to do this.
>>
>> Mine is:
>>
>> Device name DESKTOP-G62MJMS
>> Processor Intel(R) Celeron(R) N5105 @ 2.00GHz   2.00 GHz
>> Installed RAM 16.0 GB (15.8 GB usable)
>> Device ID AD3CA7D7-8EEE-44F8-A7DC-96906CC32031
>> Product ID 00355-60787-89786-AAOEM
>> System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
>> Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this display
>>
>> There's also a button for Windows Specifications.  Mine is:
>> Edition Windows 11 Pro
>> Version 22H2
>> Installed on ‎5/‎17/‎2023
>> OS build 22621.2428
>> Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22674.1000.0
>>
>> Send them back to the list please.
>>
>> 73
>> DR
>> N1EA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> Virus-free.www.avast.com
>> 
>> <#m_1949901803835001338_m_-7290289564005254676_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 3:53 PM Marc  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for clarifying this info. So if this is true, the installer
>>> should not be crashing midway or early on through the install. So he is
>>> having a PC issue. Most likely antivirus or malware.
>>>
>>> Marc
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 3:37 PM Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <
>>> ni...@ngunn.net> wrote:
>>>
 It's not the processor type that's the problem. It's the OS version.

 > On 20/10/2023 15:33 EDT Roger Jane via chirp_users <
 chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
 >
 >
 > Could the 64 bit installer be compiled as 32 bit then warn the user,
 politely , that it can’t continue and why when it checks the processor
 type?
 >
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Marc]

Gene,

Have you tried right clicking on the installer and clicking run as
administrator?



On Fri, Oct 20, 2023, 5:33 PM Gene  wrote:

> I have attached my system information. Don't know what else is needed.
>
> On 10/20/2023 5:05:59 PM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr.  wrote:
> No, Marc, it's not necessicarily a PC issue. We don't know yet, because
> when he responds he has yet to give us the Type of Windows 10 he is running.
>
> I've asked him several times, he will get the emails eventually.
>
> He needs to tell us the Windows System type.
>
> Gene,  this page tells you how to find your System type:
> https://www.howtogeek.com/697170/5-ways-to-quickly-open-the-system-window-on-windows-10/
>
> Or shortcut key is the Windows key then the SysRQ/Pause key - which is the
> third key to the right of F12 on standard keyboard.
>
> Copy the Device Specifications - there is a button to do this.
>
> Mine is:
>
> Device name DESKTOP-G62MJMS
> Processor Intel(R) Celeron(R) N5105 @ 2.00GHz   2.00 GHz
> Installed RAM 16.0 GB (15.8 GB usable)
> Device ID AD3CA7D7-8EEE-44F8-A7DC-96906CC32031
> Product ID 00355-60787-89786-AAOEM
> System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
> Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this display
>
> There's also a button for Windows Specifications.  Mine is:
> Edition Windows 11 Pro
> Version 22H2
> Installed on ‎5/‎17/‎2023
> OS build 22621.2428
> Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22674.1000.0
>
> Send them back to the list please.
>
> 73
> DR
> N1EA
>
>
>
>
> 
> Virus-free.www.avast.com
> 
> <#m_-7290289564005254676_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 3:53 PM Marc  wrote:
>
>> Thanks for clarifying this info. So if this is true, the installer should
>> not be crashing midway or early on through the install. So he is having a
>> PC issue. Most likely antivirus or malware.
>>
>> Marc
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 3:37 PM Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <
>> ni...@ngunn.net> wrote:
>>
>>> It's not the processor type that's the problem. It's the OS version.
>>>
>>> > On 20/10/2023 15:33 EDT Roger Jane via chirp_users <
>>> chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Could the 64 bit installer be compiled as 32 bit then warn the user,
>>> politely , that it can’t continue and why when it checks the processor
>>> type?
>>> >
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Rich NE1EE]

On 2023-10-20 14:11:-0700, you wrote:
>> No, Marc, it's not necessicarily a PC issue. We don't know yet, because when 
>> he responds he has yet to give us the Type of Windows 10 he is running.
>
>The installer is 32-bit 

I run chirp on a variety of new and old systems. I download and unzip the 
32-bit package. I never have a problem this way, and I am grateful that the 
chirp devs have provided this stand alone use of chirp. I changed to chirp_new 
a while back, and it runs just fine that way, from Windows 7 to 11. Our ARES 
group needs to update 20 Icom radios in 20 Emergency Op Ctrs. A 3 minute demo 
of reading from the radio, editing the file, and writing to the radio, as all 
it took to show how easy it can be.

73 Rich NE1EE
The Dusty Key
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Marc]

100% agree. As I said before by pc issue I was meaning security,
anti-virus, admin privileges etc.

The installer should at least finish. 32 bit or not.

Marc

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023, 5:11 PM Dan Smith via chirp_users <
chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:

> > No, Marc, it's not necessicarily a PC issue. We don't know yet, because
> when he responds he has yet to give us the Type of Windows 10 he is running.
>
> The installer is 32-bit and will run just fine on even a pretty old
> machine (32-bit and Windows XP), so there's really nothing about his system
> being incompatible that should be causing the behavior he's seeing. Thus,
> knowing the architecture and version of his OS is pretty immaterial at this
> point. I'd place serious money on it being some sort of "security" software
> killing the installer as soon as it sees it do something totally legit that
> it decides is suspicious.
>
> For the rest of the readers in this thread, the installer we use is a
> separate thing and not under the direct control of the CHIRP project. It's
> a 32-bit application because it doesn't need to be a 64-bit one and gives
> the best opportunity to run everywhere as a result. However, I'm working on
> adding an architecture and OS version check to the script so that it will
> positively identify these unsupported situations in the future. That will
> rule out any need to suspect these sorts of issues when someone reports a
> problem.
>
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Marc]

You clarified it has nothing to do with the type of processor and has to do
with the OS. I've proved that chirp next should at least finish the install
on a 32 bit os but when attempting to run gives a pc error.

So this would make it seem like a pc admin issue.

But I agree, we need his answer before it even matters.

Marc

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023, 5:04 PM D.J.J. Ring, Jr.  wrote:

> No, Marc, it's not necessicarily a PC issue. We don't know yet, because
> when he responds he has yet to give us the Type of Windows 10 he is running.
>
> I've asked him several times, he will get the emails eventually.
>
> He needs to tell us the Windows System type.
>
> Gene,  this page tells you how to find your System type:
> https://www.howtogeek.com/697170/5-ways-to-quickly-open-the-system-window-on-windows-10/
>
> Or shortcut key is the Windows key then the SysRQ/Pause key - which is the
> third key to the right of F12 on standard keyboard.
>
> Copy the Device Specifications - there is a button to do this.
>
> Mine is:
>
> Device name DESKTOP-G62MJMS
> Processor Intel(R) Celeron(R) N5105 @ 2.00GHz   2.00 GHz
> Installed RAM 16.0 GB (15.8 GB usable)
> Device ID AD3CA7D7-8EEE-44F8-A7DC-96906CC32031
> Product ID 00355-60787-89786-AAOEM
> System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
> Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this display
>
> There's also a button for Windows Specifications.  Mine is:
> Edition Windows 11 Pro
> Version 22H2
> Installed on ‎5/‎17/‎2023
> OS build 22621.2428
> Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22674.1000.0
>
> Send them back to the list please.
>
> 73
> DR
> N1EA
>
>
>
>
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> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 3:53 PM Marc  wrote:
>
>> Thanks for clarifying this info. So if this is true, the installer should
>> not be crashing midway or early on through the install. So he is having a
>> PC issue. Most likely antivirus or malware.
>>
>> Marc
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 3:37 PM Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <
>> ni...@ngunn.net> wrote:
>>
>>> It's not the processor type that's the problem. It's the OS version.
>>>
>>> > On 20/10/2023 15:33 EDT Roger Jane via chirp_users <
>>> chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Could the 64 bit installer be compiled as 32 bit then warn the user,
>>> politely , that it can’t continue and why when it checks the processor
>>> type?
>>> >
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Dan Smith via chirp_users]

> No, Marc, it's not necessicarily a PC issue. We don't know yet, because when 
> he responds he has yet to give us the Type of Windows 10 he is running.

The installer is 32-bit and will run just fine on even a pretty old machine 
(32-bit and Windows XP), so there's really nothing about his system being 
incompatible that should be causing the behavior he's seeing. Thus, knowing the 
architecture and version of his OS is pretty immaterial at this point. I'd 
place serious money on it being some sort of "security" software killing the 
installer as soon as it sees it do something totally legit that it decides is 
suspicious.

For the rest of the readers in this thread, the installer we use is a separate 
thing and not under the direct control of the CHIRP project. It's a 32-bit 
application because it doesn't need to be a 64-bit one and gives the best 
opportunity to run everywhere as a result. However, I'm working on adding an 
architecture and OS version check to the script so that it will positively 
identify these unsupported situations in the future. That will rule out any 
need to suspect these sorts of issues when someone reports a problem.

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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[D.J.J. Ring, Jr.]

No, Marc, it's not necessicarily a PC issue. We don't know yet, because
when he responds he has yet to give us the Type of Windows 10 he is running.

I've asked him several times, he will get the emails eventually.

He needs to tell us the Windows System type.

Gene,  this page tells you how to find your System type:
https://www.howtogeek.com/697170/5-ways-to-quickly-open-the-system-window-on-windows-10/

Or shortcut key is the Windows key then the SysRQ/Pause key - which is the
third key to the right of F12 on standard keyboard.

Copy the Device Specifications - there is a button to do this.

Mine is:

Device name DESKTOP-G62MJMS
Processor Intel(R) Celeron(R) N5105 @ 2.00GHz   2.00 GHz
Installed RAM 16.0 GB (15.8 GB usable)
Device ID AD3CA7D7-8EEE-44F8-A7DC-96906CC32031
Product ID 00355-60787-89786-AAOEM
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this display

There's also a button for Windows Specifications.  Mine is:
Edition Windows 11 Pro
Version 22H2
Installed on ‎5/‎17/‎2023
OS build 22621.2428
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22674.1000.0

Send them back to the list please.

73
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On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 3:53 PM Marc  wrote:

> Thanks for clarifying this info. So if this is true, the installer should
> not be crashing midway or early on through the install. So he is having a
> PC issue. Most likely antivirus or malware.
>
> Marc
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 3:37 PM Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF 
> wrote:
>
>> It's not the processor type that's the problem. It's the OS version.
>>
>> > On 20/10/2023 15:33 EDT Roger Jane via chirp_users <
>> chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Could the 64 bit installer be compiled as 32 bit then warn the user,
>> politely , that it can’t continue and why when it checks the processor
>> type?
>> >
>> ngunn.net
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Marc]

Thanks for clarifying this info. So if this is true, the installer should
not be crashing midway or early on through the install. So he is having a
PC issue. Most likely antivirus or malware.

Marc

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 3:37 PM Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF 
wrote:

> It's not the processor type that's the problem. It's the OS version.
>
> > On 20/10/2023 15:33 EDT Roger Jane via chirp_users <
> chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Could the 64 bit installer be compiled as 32 bit then warn the user,
> politely , that it can’t continue and why when it checks the processor
> type?
> >
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[D.J.J. Ring, Jr.]

Gene,

Understood, but we still need verification of your Windows 10 version, is
it 32 bit - which will not work - or 64 bit which should work.

If you have 32 bit Windows 10, the current CHIRP will NOT work, you have to
install CHIRP Legacy which is here:
https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_daily/legacy-20221217/chirp-legacy-20221217-installer.exe

Brgds,

David N1EA


On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 2:38 PM Gene  wrote:

> That's the problem. Mine never shows anything on the license screen except
> I must agree, then it just vanishes and never does anything more. A couple
> of times it did say Chirp not responding before vanishing. Not everytime
> though.
>
> On 10/20/2023 1:11:26 PM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr.  wrote:
> I just reinstalled CHIRP Next and there is a license screen.
> You must agree to the license before CHIRP installs, that is where the OP
> says his installation is failing.
>
> The current download location is
> https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_next/next-20231016/chirp-next-20231016-installer.exe
>
> 73
> DR
> N1EA
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 12:59 PM Marc  wrote:
>
>> Also, I'm not sure what the license verification screen is. Never saw
>> anything that mentioned this while installing or uninstalling
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 11:56 AM Gene  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sorry Jeff, but I have tried some more and get the same results. I
>>> simply can't understand why it just quits once it gets to the license
>>> verification screen. As I said, the terms do not appear at all before it
>>> just disappears and does nothing more.
>>>
>>> On 10/20/2023 11:40:30 AM, Jeffrey Vian 
>>> wrote:
>>> I just tested on my windows 10 machine, where I have never previously
>>> installed chirp.
>>> Went to the download site and it automatically highlighted the correct
>>> version (installer) to download/
>>> After download I double clicked on the file just downloaded and it
>>> opened the installer and did a normal windows install.
>>>
>>> The menu then contained the launch icon and it just worked.
>>>
>>> Don't know how you have an issue with installing it on windows so if
>>> there is more problem please let us know the details of exactly what is
>>> going wrong.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>> KI7GJG
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 10:10 AM Jeffrey Vian <
>>> sandhillsinvestm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 To install chirp on windows 10 I think you must use the Chirp Windows
 installer

 https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_next/next-20231016/
 and the one that has the name chirp-next--installer.exe

 Jeff
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> I have downloaded Chirp several times. Try to install with No luck. I
> have tried different browsers. I have tried rebooting. I have tried in 
> safe
> mode. I have tried all the tricks I can find on the internet, and nothing
> works. It's like something or some file is missing. I am at my wits end.
> The install gets to the screen to verify and agree to the license but
> nothing appears. No license. It sits there for about 5 seconds then
> vanishes and nothing more.  I am on an HP Laptop using Windows 10. Please
> help.
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF]

It's not the processor type that's the problem. It's the OS version.

> On 20/10/2023 15:33 EDT Roger Jane via chirp_users 
>  wrote:
> 
>  
> Could the 64 bit installer be compiled as 32 bit then warn the user, politely 
> , that it can’t continue and why when it checks the processor type?
> 
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Roger Jane via chirp_users]

Could the 64 bit installer be compiled as 32 bit then warn the user, politely 
, that it can’t continue and why when it checks the processor type?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 20 Oct 2023, at 20:14, Barry Jackson  wrote:
> 
> You are not helping yourself or anyone else by not answering questions
> put to you.
> 
> Is your system 32 or 64 bit?
> 
> You were told how to find out earlier yet you have not answered.
> 
> 
>> On 20/10/2023 19:37, Gene wrote:
>> That's the problem. Mine never shows anything on the license screen
>> except I must agree, then it just vanishes and never does anything more.
>> A couple of times it did say Chirp not responding before vanishing. Not
>> everytime though.
>>> 
 On 10/20/2023 1:11:26 PM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just reinstalled CHIRP Next and there is a license screen.
>>> You must agree to the license before CHIRP installs, that is where the
>>> OP says his installation is failing.
>>> 
>>> The current download location is
>>> https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_next/next-20231016/chirp-next-20231016-installer.exe
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 73
>>> DR
>>> N1EA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 12:59 PM Marc >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>>Also, I'm not sure what the license verification screen is. Never
>>>saw anything that mentioned this while installing or uninstalling
>>> 
>>>On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 11:56 AM Gene >>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>I'm sorry Jeff, but I have tried some more and get the same
>>>results. I simply can't understand why it just quits once it
>>>gets to the license verification screen. As I said, the terms
>>>do not appear at all before it just disappears and does
>>>nothing more.
 
On 10/20/2023 11:40:30 AM, Jeffrey Vian
>>>> wrote:
 
I just tested on my windows 10 machine, where I have never
previously installed chirp.
Went to the download site and it automatically highlighted
the correct version (installer) to download/
After download I double clicked on the file just downloaded
and it opened the installer and did a normal windows install.
 
The menu then contained the launch icon and it just worked.
 
Don't know how you have an issue with installing it on
windows so if there is more problem please let us know the
details of exactly what is going wrong.
 
Jeff
KI7GJG
 
 
 
On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 10:10 AM Jeffrey Vian
>>>> wrote:
 
To install chirp on windows 10 I think you must use the
Chirp Windows installer
 
https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_next/next-20231016/ 
 
and the one that has the name
chirp-next--installer.exe
 
Jeff
KI7GJG
 
 
 
On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 8:52 AM Gene >>>> wrote:
 
I have downloaded Chirp several times. Try to install
with No luck. I have tried different browsers. I have
tried rebooting. I have tried in safe mode. I have
tried all the tricks I can find on the internet, and
nothing works. It's like something or some file is
missing. I am at my wits end. The install gets to the
screen to verify and agree to the license but nothing
appears. No license. It sits there for about 5
seconds then vanishes and nothing more.  I am on an
HP Laptop using Windows 10. Please help.
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Barry Jackson]

You are not helping yourself or anyone else by not answering questions 
put to you.

Is your system 32 or 64 bit?

You were told how to find out earlier yet you have not answered.


On 20/10/2023 19:37, Gene wrote:
> That's the problem. Mine never shows anything on the license screen 
> except I must agree, then it just vanishes and never does anything more. 
> A couple of times it did say Chirp not responding before vanishing. Not 
> everytime though.
>>
>> On 10/20/2023 1:11:26 PM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr.  wrote:
>>
>> I just reinstalled CHIRP Next and there is a license screen.
>> You must agree to the license before CHIRP installs, that is where the 
>> OP says his installation is failing.
>>
>> The current download location is 
>> https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_next/next-20231016/chirp-next-20231016-installer.exe
>>  
>> 
>>
>> 73
>> DR
>> N1EA
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> Virus-free.www.avast.com 
>> 
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>>
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 12:59 PM Marc > > wrote:
>>
>> Also, I'm not sure what the license verification screen is. Never
>> saw anything that mentioned this while installing or uninstalling
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 11:56 AM Gene > > wrote:
>>
>> I'm sorry Jeff, but I have tried some more and get the same
>> results. I simply can't understand why it just quits once it
>> gets to the license verification screen. As I said, the terms
>> do not appear at all before it just disappears and does
>> nothing more.
>>>
>>> On 10/20/2023 11:40:30 AM, Jeffrey Vian
>>> >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> I just tested on my windows 10 machine, where I have never
>>> previously installed chirp.
>>> Went to the download site and it automatically highlighted
>>> the correct version (installer) to download/
>>> After download I double clicked on the file just downloaded
>>> and it opened the installer and did a normal windows install.
>>>
>>> The menu then contained the launch icon and it just worked.
>>>
>>> Don't know how you have an issue with installing it on
>>> windows so if there is more problem please let us know the
>>> details of exactly what is going wrong.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>> KI7GJG
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 10:10 AM Jeffrey Vian
>>> >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> To install chirp on windows 10 I think you must use the
>>> Chirp Windows installer
>>>
>>> https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_next/next-20231016/ 
>>> 
>>> and the one that has the name
>>> chirp-next--installer.exe
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>> KI7GJG
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 8:52 AM Gene >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> I have downloaded Chirp several times. Try to install
>>> with No luck. I have tried different browsers. I have
>>> tried rebooting. I have tried in safe mode. I have
>>> tried all the tricks I can find on the internet, and
>>> nothing works. It's like something or some file is
>>> missing. I am at my wits end. The install gets to the
>>> screen to verify and agree to the license but nothing
>>> appears. No license. It sits there for about 5
>>> seconds then vanishes and nothing more.  I am on an
>>> HP Laptop using Windows 10. Please help.
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Marc]

This is correct, it won't run. But it will install.

Marc

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 3:00 PM D.J.J. Ring, Jr.  wrote:

> Only the old version of CHIRP runs on 32 bit Windows.
>
> That version is here
> https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_daily/legacy-20221217/
>
> 73
> DR
> N1EA
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023, 1:29 PM Marc  wrote:
>
>> I was still able to get past the licensing step on my 32bit pc here at
>> the store, it just fails to run after the installation happens saying,
>> "this app can't run on your pc" so if its quitting there, its probably some
>> type of admin, security or antivirus issue I would assume.
>>
>> 73 To you!
>>
>> Marc
>> KQ4ENX
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 1:19 PM D.J.J. Ring, Jr.  wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry, when he responded to what OS he was using, it went to my
>>> SPAM folder because someone gave a link to the installer!
>>>
>>> Gene, we still need to verify that you're using a 64 bit version of
>>> Windows.
>>>
>>> You will find 32  bit chirp here:
>>> https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_daily/legacy-20221217/
>>>
>>> 73
>>> DR
>>> N1EA
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> Virus-free.www.avast.com
>>> 
>>> <#m_269560705837457_m_-4133365442966884559_m_-7361606295758557349_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 1:07 PM Marc  wrote:
>>>
 Yes, we got that but is he running the 32 bit or the 64 bit OS. Chirp
 next will not run on the 64 bit as stated previously.

 Marc

 On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 1:01 PM D.J.J. Ring, Jr.  wrote:

> Gene told me he is using windows 10 on his hp laptop.
>
> 73
>
> DR
>
>
> 
> Virus-free.www.avast.com
> 
> <#m_269560705837457_m_-4133365442966884559_m_-7361606295758557349_m_-1177544897501950835_m_4564951938962697314_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 12:50 PM Marc 
> wrote:
>
>> I also just tested on a machine I've never installed it on and this
>> machine is a 32 bit operating system. It installs just fine but when I 
>> try
>> to run it, it says not compatible with this operating system. I didn't 
>> see
>> an answer to the question, do you know what OS you are using? 32 or 64 
>> bit.
>>
>> You can go to the start menu, settings icon, system and click about,
>> and where it says system type it will tell you 32 or 64.
>>
>> I then uninstalled chirp next and installed the legacy version and it
>> ran fine.
>>
>> GL
>> Marc
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 11:56 AM Gene  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sorry Jeff, but I have tried some more and get the same results.
>>> I simply can't understand why it just quits once it gets to the license
>>> verification screen. As I said, the terms do not appear at all before it
>>> just disappears and does nothing more.
>>>
>>> On 10/20/2023 11:40:30 AM, Jeffrey Vian <
>>> sandhillsinvestm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I just tested on my windows 10 machine, where I have never
>>> previously installed chirp.
>>> Went to the download site and it automatically highlighted the
>>> correct version (installer) to download/
>>> After download I double clicked on the file just downloaded and it
>>> opened the installer and did a normal windows install.
>>>
>>> The menu then contained the launch icon and it just worked.
>>>
>>> Don't know how you have an issue with installing it on windows so if
>>> there is more problem please let us know the details of exactly what is
>>> going wrong.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>> KI7GJG
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 10:10 AM Jeffrey Vian <
>>> sandhillsinvestm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 To install chirp on windows 10 I think you must use the Chirp
 Windows installer

 https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_next/next-20231016/
 and the one that has the name chirp-next--installer.exe

 Jeff
 KI7GJG



 On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 8:52 AM Gene  wrote:

> I have downloaded Chirp several times. Try to install with No
> luck. I have tried different browsers. I have tried rebooting. I have 
> tried
> in safe mode. I have tried all the tricks I can find on the internet, 
> and
> nothing works. It's like something or some file is missing. I am at 
> my wits
> end. The install gets to the screen to verify and agree to the 
> license but
> nothing 

Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Marc]

Hmmm, not sure this is correct. As stated previously, I ran the chirp next
installer right after reading this persons email, on the pc I'm sitting at
right now which has 32 bit os installed and I was able to complete the
installation process. I went into add remove programs to uninstall it so,
It should finish the install? What happens is once you try to run the
software it states this app in not compatible with this PC. Now maybe its
possible that since I technically have a 64 based processor this is making
my experience different? I installed the 32 bit OS because I had an old
business software that wouldn't run on 64.

Screen shot:

[image: Capture.JPG]


ANYWAY, all this is a mute argument as the original poster will not verify
what OS he is running.

Marc


On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 2:58 PM Jim Unroe  wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 1:29 PM Marc  wrote:
> >
> > I was still able to get past the licensing step on my 32bit pc here at
> the store, it just fails to run after the installation happens saying,
> "this app can't run on your pc" so if its quitting there, its probably some
> type of admin, security or antivirus issue I would assume.
> >
> > 73 To you!
> >
> > Marc
> > KQ4ENX
>
> No. It is not "some type of admin, security or antivirus issue".
> CHIRP-next won't run on a 32-bit PC running Windows. Period.
>
> You will either have to upgrade to Windows 10 64-bit or Windows 11, or
> fall back to classic CHIRP that was abandoned last December.
>
> Another possibility is to install Ubuntu, Linux Mint or similar to run
> live on a USB flash drive, boot up on the flash drive and then install
> CHIRP-next. I've done this and it works fine.
>
> Jim
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[D.J.J. Ring, Jr.]

Only the old version of CHIRP runs on 32 bit Windows.

That version is here
https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_daily/legacy-20221217/

73
DR
N1EA


On Fri, Oct 20, 2023, 1:29 PM Marc  wrote:

> I was still able to get past the licensing step on my 32bit pc here at the
> store, it just fails to run after the installation happens saying, "this
> app can't run on your pc" so if its quitting there, its probably some type
> of admin, security or antivirus issue I would assume.
>
> 73 To you!
>
> Marc
> KQ4ENX
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 1:19 PM D.J.J. Ring, Jr.  wrote:
>
>> Sorry, when he responded to what OS he was using, it went to my
>> SPAM folder because someone gave a link to the installer!
>>
>> Gene, we still need to verify that you're using a 64 bit version of
>> Windows.
>>
>> You will find 32  bit chirp here:
>> https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_daily/legacy-20221217/
>>
>> 73
>> DR
>> N1EA
>>
>>
>> 
>> Virus-free.www.avast.com
>> 
>> <#m_-4133365442966884559_m_-7361606295758557349_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 1:07 PM Marc  wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, we got that but is he running the 32 bit or the 64 bit OS. Chirp
>>> next will not run on the 64 bit as stated previously.
>>>
>>> Marc
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 1:01 PM D.J.J. Ring, Jr.  wrote:
>>>
 Gene told me he is using windows 10 on his hp laptop.

 73

 DR


 
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 On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 12:50 PM Marc 
 wrote:

> I also just tested on a machine I've never installed it on and this
> machine is a 32 bit operating system. It installs just fine but when I try
> to run it, it says not compatible with this operating system. I didn't see
> an answer to the question, do you know what OS you are using? 32 or 64 
> bit.
>
> You can go to the start menu, settings icon, system and click about,
> and where it says system type it will tell you 32 or 64.
>
> I then uninstalled chirp next and installed the legacy version and it
> ran fine.
>
> GL
> Marc
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 11:56 AM Gene  wrote:
>
>> I'm sorry Jeff, but I have tried some more and get the same results.
>> I simply can't understand why it just quits once it gets to the license
>> verification screen. As I said, the terms do not appear at all before it
>> just disappears and does nothing more.
>>
>> On 10/20/2023 11:40:30 AM, Jeffrey Vian <
>> sandhillsinvestm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I just tested on my windows 10 machine, where I have never previously
>> installed chirp.
>> Went to the download site and it automatically highlighted the
>> correct version (installer) to download/
>> After download I double clicked on the file just downloaded and it
>> opened the installer and did a normal windows install.
>>
>> The menu then contained the launch icon and it just worked.
>>
>> Don't know how you have an issue with installing it on windows so if
>> there is more problem please let us know the details of exactly what is
>> going wrong.
>>
>> Jeff
>> KI7GJG
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 10:10 AM Jeffrey Vian <
>> sandhillsinvestm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> To install chirp on windows 10 I think you must use the Chirp
>>> Windows installer
>>>
>>> https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_next/next-20231016/
>>> and the one that has the name chirp-next--installer.exe
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>> KI7GJG
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 8:52 AM Gene  wrote:
>>>
 I have downloaded Chirp several times. Try to install with No luck.
 I have tried different browsers. I have tried rebooting. I have tried 
 in
 safe mode. I have tried all the tricks I can find on the internet, and
 nothing works. It's like something or some file is missing. I am at my 
 wits
 end. The install gets to the screen to verify and agree to the license 
 but
 nothing appears. No license. It sits there for about 5 seconds then
 vanishes and nothing more.  I am on an HP Laptop using Windows 10. 
 Please
 help.
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Jim Unroe]

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 1:29 PM Marc  wrote:
>
> I was still able to get past the licensing step on my 32bit pc here at the 
> store, it just fails to run after the installation happens saying, "this app 
> can't run on your pc" so if its quitting there, its probably some type of 
> admin, security or antivirus issue I would assume.
>
> 73 To you!
>
> Marc
> KQ4ENX

No. It is not "some type of admin, security or antivirus issue".
CHIRP-next won't run on a 32-bit PC running Windows. Period.

You will either have to upgrade to Windows 10 64-bit or Windows 11, or
fall back to classic CHIRP that was abandoned last December.

Another possibility is to install Ubuntu, Linux Mint or similar to run
live on a USB flash drive, boot up on the flash drive and then install
CHIRP-next. I've done this and it works fine.

Jim
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Marc]

So.Did you try right clicking on the installer and selecting run as
administrator?

Marc

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 2:37 PM Gene  wrote:

> That's the problem. Mine never shows anything on the license screen except
> I must agree, then it just vanishes and never does anything more. A couple
> of times it did say Chirp not responding before vanishing. Not everytime
> though.
>
> On 10/20/2023 1:11:26 PM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr.  wrote:
> I just reinstalled CHIRP Next and there is a license screen.
> You must agree to the license before CHIRP installs, that is where the OP
> says his installation is failing.
>
> The current download location is
> https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_next/next-20231016/chirp-next-20231016-installer.exe
>
> 73
> DR
> N1EA
>
>
>
>
> 
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>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 12:59 PM Marc  wrote:
>
>> Also, I'm not sure what the license verification screen is. Never saw
>> anything that mentioned this while installing or uninstalling
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 11:56 AM Gene  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sorry Jeff, but I have tried some more and get the same results. I
>>> simply can't understand why it just quits once it gets to the license
>>> verification screen. As I said, the terms do not appear at all before it
>>> just disappears and does nothing more.
>>>
>>> On 10/20/2023 11:40:30 AM, Jeffrey Vian 
>>> wrote:
>>> I just tested on my windows 10 machine, where I have never previously
>>> installed chirp.
>>> Went to the download site and it automatically highlighted the correct
>>> version (installer) to download/
>>> After download I double clicked on the file just downloaded and it
>>> opened the installer and did a normal windows install.
>>>
>>> The menu then contained the launch icon and it just worked.
>>>
>>> Don't know how you have an issue with installing it on windows so if
>>> there is more problem please let us know the details of exactly what is
>>> going wrong.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>> KI7GJG
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 10:10 AM Jeffrey Vian <
>>> sandhillsinvestm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 To install chirp on windows 10 I think you must use the Chirp Windows
 installer

 https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_next/next-20231016/
 and the one that has the name chirp-next--installer.exe

 Jeff
 KI7GJG



 On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 8:52 AM Gene  wrote:

> I have downloaded Chirp several times. Try to install with No luck. I
> have tried different browsers. I have tried rebooting. I have tried in 
> safe
> mode. I have tried all the tricks I can find on the internet, and nothing
> works. It's like something or some file is missing. I am at my wits end.
> The install gets to the screen to verify and agree to the license but
> nothing appears. No license. It sits there for about 5 seconds then
> vanishes and nothing more.  I am on an HP Laptop using Windows 10. Please
> help.
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Marc]

I was still able to get past the licensing step on my 32bit pc here at the
store, it just fails to run after the installation happens saying, "this
app can't run on your pc" so if its quitting there, its probably some type
of admin, security or antivirus issue I would assume.

73 To you!

Marc
KQ4ENX


On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 1:19 PM D.J.J. Ring, Jr.  wrote:

> Sorry, when he responded to what OS he was using, it went to my
> SPAM folder because someone gave a link to the installer!
>
> Gene, we still need to verify that you're using a 64 bit version of
> Windows.
>
> You will find 32  bit chirp here:
> https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_daily/legacy-20221217/
>
> 73
> DR
> N1EA
>
>
> 
> Virus-free.www.avast.com
> 
> <#m_-7361606295758557349_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 1:07 PM Marc  wrote:
>
>> Yes, we got that but is he running the 32 bit or the 64 bit OS. Chirp
>> next will not run on the 64 bit as stated previously.
>>
>> Marc
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 1:01 PM D.J.J. Ring, Jr.  wrote:
>>
>>> Gene told me he is using windows 10 on his hp laptop.
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> DR
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> Virus-free.www.avast.com
>>> 
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>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 12:50 PM Marc  wrote:
>>>
 I also just tested on a machine I've never installed it on and this
 machine is a 32 bit operating system. It installs just fine but when I try
 to run it, it says not compatible with this operating system. I didn't see
 an answer to the question, do you know what OS you are using? 32 or 64 bit.

 You can go to the start menu, settings icon, system and click about,
 and where it says system type it will tell you 32 or 64.

 I then uninstalled chirp next and installed the legacy version and it
 ran fine.

 GL
 Marc

 On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 11:56 AM Gene  wrote:

> I'm sorry Jeff, but I have tried some more and get the same results. I
> simply can't understand why it just quits once it gets to the license
> verification screen. As I said, the terms do not appear at all before it
> just disappears and does nothing more.
>
> On 10/20/2023 11:40:30 AM, Jeffrey Vian 
> wrote:
> I just tested on my windows 10 machine, where I have never previously
> installed chirp.
> Went to the download site and it automatically highlighted the correct
> version (installer) to download/
> After download I double clicked on the file just downloaded and it
> opened the installer and did a normal windows install.
>
> The menu then contained the launch icon and it just worked.
>
> Don't know how you have an issue with installing it on windows so if
> there is more problem please let us know the details of exactly what is
> going wrong.
>
> Jeff
> KI7GJG
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 10:10 AM Jeffrey Vian <
> sandhillsinvestm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> To install chirp on windows 10 I think you must use the Chirp
>> Windows installer
>>
>> https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_next/next-20231016/
>> and the one that has the name chirp-next--installer.exe
>>
>> Jeff
>> KI7GJG
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 8:52 AM Gene  wrote:
>>
>>> I have downloaded Chirp several times. Try to install with No luck.
>>> I have tried different browsers. I have tried rebooting. I have tried in
>>> safe mode. I have tried all the tricks I can find on the internet, and
>>> nothing works. It's like something or some file is missing. I am at my 
>>> wits
>>> end. The install gets to the screen to verify and agree to the license 
>>> but
>>> nothing appears. No license. It sits there for about 5 seconds then
>>> vanishes and nothing more.  I am on an HP Laptop using Windows 10. 
>>> Please
>>> help.
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Jim Unroe]

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 1:08 PM Marc  wrote:
>
> Yes, we got that but is he running the 32 bit or the 64 bit OS. Chirp next 
> will not run on the 64 bit as stated previously.
>
> Marc

To be clear, CHIRP-next will "only" run on 64-bit Windows. It will not
run on 32-bit Windows.

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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Marc]

Oh I see it now lol, it's like two steps in. Might be something to do with
admin rights at that point. Try right clicking the installer and select run
as administrator. Hopefully that would do it.

Marc



On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 1:10 PM D.J.J. Ring, Jr.  wrote:

> I just reinstalled CHIRP Next and there is a license screen.
> You must agree to the license before CHIRP installs, that is where the OP
> says his installation is failing.
>
> The current download location is
> https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_next/next-20231016/chirp-next-20231016-installer.exe
>
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> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 12:59 PM Marc  wrote:
>
>> Also, I'm not sure what the license verification screen is. Never saw
>> anything that mentioned this while installing or uninstalling
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 11:56 AM Gene  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sorry Jeff, but I have tried some more and get the same results. I
>>> simply can't understand why it just quits once it gets to the license
>>> verification screen. As I said, the terms do not appear at all before it
>>> just disappears and does nothing more.
>>>
>>> On 10/20/2023 11:40:30 AM, Jeffrey Vian 
>>> wrote:
>>> I just tested on my windows 10 machine, where I have never previously
>>> installed chirp.
>>> Went to the download site and it automatically highlighted the correct
>>> version (installer) to download/
>>> After download I double clicked on the file just downloaded and it
>>> opened the installer and did a normal windows install.
>>>
>>> The menu then contained the launch icon and it just worked.
>>>
>>> Don't know how you have an issue with installing it on windows so if
>>> there is more problem please let us know the details of exactly what is
>>> going wrong.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>> KI7GJG
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 10:10 AM Jeffrey Vian <
>>> sandhillsinvestm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 To install chirp on windows 10 I think you must use the Chirp Windows
 installer

 https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_next/next-20231016/
 and the one that has the name chirp-next--installer.exe

 Jeff
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> I have downloaded Chirp several times. Try to install with No luck. I
> have tried different browsers. I have tried rebooting. I have tried in 
> safe
> mode. I have tried all the tricks I can find on the internet, and nothing
> works. It's like something or some file is missing. I am at my wits end.
> The install gets to the screen to verify and agree to the license but
> nothing appears. No license. It sits there for about 5 seconds then
> vanishes and nothing more.  I am on an HP Laptop using Windows 10. Please
> help.
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[D.J.J. Ring, Jr.]

Sorry, when he responded to what OS he was using, it went to my SPAM folder
because someone gave a link to the installer!

Gene, we still need to verify that you're using a 64 bit version of Windows.

You will find 32  bit chirp here:
https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_daily/legacy-20221217/

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On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 1:07 PM Marc  wrote:

> Yes, we got that but is he running the 32 bit or the 64 bit OS. Chirp next
> will not run on the 64 bit as stated previously.
>
> Marc
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 1:01 PM D.J.J. Ring, Jr.  wrote:
>
>> Gene told me he is using windows 10 on his hp laptop.
>>
>> 73
>>
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>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 12:50 PM Marc  wrote:
>>
>>> I also just tested on a machine I've never installed it on and this
>>> machine is a 32 bit operating system. It installs just fine but when I try
>>> to run it, it says not compatible with this operating system. I didn't see
>>> an answer to the question, do you know what OS you are using? 32 or 64 bit.
>>>
>>> You can go to the start menu, settings icon, system and click about, and
>>> where it says system type it will tell you 32 or 64.
>>>
>>> I then uninstalled chirp next and installed the legacy version and it
>>> ran fine.
>>>
>>> GL
>>> Marc
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 11:56 AM Gene  wrote:
>>>
 I'm sorry Jeff, but I have tried some more and get the same results. I
 simply can't understand why it just quits once it gets to the license
 verification screen. As I said, the terms do not appear at all before it
 just disappears and does nothing more.

 On 10/20/2023 11:40:30 AM, Jeffrey Vian 
 wrote:
 I just tested on my windows 10 machine, where I have never previously
 installed chirp.
 Went to the download site and it automatically highlighted the correct
 version (installer) to download/
 After download I double clicked on the file just downloaded and it
 opened the installer and did a normal windows install.

 The menu then contained the launch icon and it just worked.

 Don't know how you have an issue with installing it on windows so if
 there is more problem please let us know the details of exactly what is
 going wrong.

 Jeff
 KI7GJG



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> To install chirp on windows 10 I think you must use the Chirp Windows
> installer
>
> https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_next/next-20231016/
> and the one that has the name chirp-next--installer.exe
>
> Jeff
> KI7GJG
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 8:52 AM Gene  wrote:
>
>> I have downloaded Chirp several times. Try to install with No luck. I
>> have tried different browsers. I have tried rebooting. I have tried in 
>> safe
>> mode. I have tried all the tricks I can find on the internet, and nothing
>> works. It's like something or some file is missing. I am at my wits end.
>> The install gets to the screen to verify and agree to the license but
>> nothing appears. No license. It sits there for about 5 seconds then
>> vanishes and nothing more.  I am on an HP Laptop using Windows 10. Please
>> help.
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[D.J.J. Ring, Jr.]

I just reinstalled CHIRP Next and there is a license screen.
You must agree to the license before CHIRP installs, that is where the OP
says his installation is failing.

The current download location is
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On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 12:59 PM Marc  wrote:

> Also, I'm not sure what the license verification screen is. Never saw
> anything that mentioned this while installing or uninstalling
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 11:56 AM Gene  wrote:
>
>> I'm sorry Jeff, but I have tried some more and get the same results. I
>> simply can't understand why it just quits once it gets to the license
>> verification screen. As I said, the terms do not appear at all before it
>> just disappears and does nothing more.
>>
>> On 10/20/2023 11:40:30 AM, Jeffrey Vian 
>> wrote:
>> I just tested on my windows 10 machine, where I have never previously
>> installed chirp.
>> Went to the download site and it automatically highlighted the correct
>> version (installer) to download/
>> After download I double clicked on the file just downloaded and it opened
>> the installer and did a normal windows install.
>>
>> The menu then contained the launch icon and it just worked.
>>
>> Don't know how you have an issue with installing it on windows so if
>> there is more problem please let us know the details of exactly what is
>> going wrong.
>>
>> Jeff
>> KI7GJG
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 10:10 AM Jeffrey Vian <
>> sandhillsinvestm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> To install chirp on windows 10 I think you must use the Chirp Windows
>>> installer
>>>
>>> https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_next/next-20231016/
>>> and the one that has the name chirp-next--installer.exe
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>> KI7GJG
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 8:52 AM Gene  wrote:
>>>
 I have downloaded Chirp several times. Try to install with No luck. I
 have tried different browsers. I have tried rebooting. I have tried in safe
 mode. I have tried all the tricks I can find on the internet, and nothing
 works. It's like something or some file is missing. I am at my wits end.
 The install gets to the screen to verify and agree to the license but
 nothing appears. No license. It sits there for about 5 seconds then
 vanishes and nothing more.  I am on an HP Laptop using Windows 10. Please
 help.
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[Marc]

Yes, we got that but is he running the 32 bit or the 64 bit OS. Chirp next
will not run on the 64 bit as stated previously.

Marc

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 1:01 PM D.J.J. Ring, Jr.  wrote:

> Gene told me he is using windows 10 on his hp laptop.
>
> 73
>
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>
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>
>> I also just tested on a machine I've never installed it on and this
>> machine is a 32 bit operating system. It installs just fine but when I try
>> to run it, it says not compatible with this operating system. I didn't see
>> an answer to the question, do you know what OS you are using? 32 or 64 bit.
>>
>> You can go to the start menu, settings icon, system and click about, and
>> where it says system type it will tell you 32 or 64.
>>
>> I then uninstalled chirp next and installed the legacy version and it ran
>> fine.
>>
>> GL
>> Marc
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 11:56 AM Gene  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sorry Jeff, but I have tried some more and get the same results. I
>>> simply can't understand why it just quits once it gets to the license
>>> verification screen. As I said, the terms do not appear at all before it
>>> just disappears and does nothing more.
>>>
>>> On 10/20/2023 11:40:30 AM, Jeffrey Vian 
>>> wrote:
>>> I just tested on my windows 10 machine, where I have never previously
>>> installed chirp.
>>> Went to the download site and it automatically highlighted the correct
>>> version (installer) to download/
>>> After download I double clicked on the file just downloaded and it
>>> opened the installer and did a normal windows install.
>>>
>>> The menu then contained the launch icon and it just worked.
>>>
>>> Don't know how you have an issue with installing it on windows so if
>>> there is more problem please let us know the details of exactly what is
>>> going wrong.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>> KI7GJG
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 10:10 AM Jeffrey Vian <
>>> sandhillsinvestm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 To install chirp on windows 10 I think you must use the Chirp Windows
 installer

 https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_next/next-20231016/
 and the one that has the name chirp-next--installer.exe

 Jeff
 KI7GJG



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> I have downloaded Chirp several times. Try to install with No luck. I
> have tried different browsers. I have tried rebooting. I have tried in 
> safe
> mode. I have tried all the tricks I can find on the internet, and nothing
> works. It's like something or some file is missing. I am at my wits end.
> The install gets to the screen to verify and agree to the license but
> nothing appears. No license. It sits there for about 5 seconds then
> vanishes and nothing more.  I am on an HP Laptop using Windows 10. Please
> help.
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Gene told me he is using windows 10 on his hp laptop.

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On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 12:50 PM Marc  wrote:

> I also just tested on a machine I've never installed it on and this
> machine is a 32 bit operating system. It installs just fine but when I try
> to run it, it says not compatible with this operating system. I didn't see
> an answer to the question, do you know what OS you are using? 32 or 64 bit.
>
> You can go to the start menu, settings icon, system and click about, and
> where it says system type it will tell you 32 or 64.
>
> I then uninstalled chirp next and installed the legacy version and it ran
> fine.
>
> GL
> Marc
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 11:56 AM Gene  wrote:
>
>> I'm sorry Jeff, but I have tried some more and get the same results. I
>> simply can't understand why it just quits once it gets to the license
>> verification screen. As I said, the terms do not appear at all before it
>> just disappears and does nothing more.
>>
>> On 10/20/2023 11:40:30 AM, Jeffrey Vian 
>> wrote:
>> I just tested on my windows 10 machine, where I have never previously
>> installed chirp.
>> Went to the download site and it automatically highlighted the correct
>> version (installer) to download/
>> After download I double clicked on the file just downloaded and it opened
>> the installer and did a normal windows install.
>>
>> The menu then contained the launch icon and it just worked.
>>
>> Don't know how you have an issue with installing it on windows so if
>> there is more problem please let us know the details of exactly what is
>> going wrong.
>>
>> Jeff
>> KI7GJG
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 10:10 AM Jeffrey Vian <
>> sandhillsinvestm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> To install chirp on windows 10 I think you must use the Chirp Windows
>>> installer
>>>
>>> https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_next/next-20231016/
>>> and the one that has the name chirp-next--installer.exe
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>> KI7GJG
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 8:52 AM Gene  wrote:
>>>
 I have downloaded Chirp several times. Try to install with No luck. I
 have tried different browsers. I have tried rebooting. I have tried in safe
 mode. I have tried all the tricks I can find on the internet, and nothing
 works. It's like something or some file is missing. I am at my wits end.
 The install gets to the screen to verify and agree to the license but
 nothing appears. No license. It sits there for about 5 seconds then
 vanishes and nothing more.  I am on an HP Laptop using Windows 10. Please
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Marc]

Also, I'm not sure what the license verification screen is. Never saw
anything that mentioned this while installing or uninstalling

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 11:56 AM Gene  wrote:

> I'm sorry Jeff, but I have tried some more and get the same results. I
> simply can't understand why it just quits once it gets to the license
> verification screen. As I said, the terms do not appear at all before it
> just disappears and does nothing more.
>
> On 10/20/2023 11:40:30 AM, Jeffrey Vian 
> wrote:
> I just tested on my windows 10 machine, where I have never previously
> installed chirp.
> Went to the download site and it automatically highlighted the correct
> version (installer) to download/
> After download I double clicked on the file just downloaded and it opened
> the installer and did a normal windows install.
>
> The menu then contained the launch icon and it just worked.
>
> Don't know how you have an issue with installing it on windows so if there
> is more problem please let us know the details of exactly what is going
> wrong.
>
> Jeff
> KI7GJG
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 10:10 AM Jeffrey Vian <
> sandhillsinvestm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> To install chirp on windows 10 I think you must use the Chirp Windows
>> installer
>>
>> https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_next/next-20231016/
>> and the one that has the name chirp-next--installer.exe
>>
>> Jeff
>> KI7GJG
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 8:52 AM Gene  wrote:
>>
>>> I have downloaded Chirp several times. Try to install with No luck. I
>>> have tried different browsers. I have tried rebooting. I have tried in safe
>>> mode. I have tried all the tricks I can find on the internet, and nothing
>>> works. It's like something or some file is missing. I am at my wits end.
>>> The install gets to the screen to verify and agree to the license but
>>> nothing appears. No license. It sits there for about 5 seconds then
>>> vanishes and nothing more.  I am on an HP Laptop using Windows 10. Please
>>> help.
>>> [image: 62cc90ee-bbbd-4080-a05b-465351b94590]
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Marc]

I also just tested on a machine I've never installed it on and this machine
is a 32 bit operating system. It installs just fine but when I try to run
it, it says not compatible with this operating system. I didn't see an
answer to the question, do you know what OS you are using? 32 or 64 bit.

You can go to the start menu, settings icon, system and click about, and
where it says system type it will tell you 32 or 64.

I then uninstalled chirp next and installed the legacy version and it ran
fine.

GL
Marc

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 11:56 AM Gene  wrote:

> I'm sorry Jeff, but I have tried some more and get the same results. I
> simply can't understand why it just quits once it gets to the license
> verification screen. As I said, the terms do not appear at all before it
> just disappears and does nothing more.
>
> On 10/20/2023 11:40:30 AM, Jeffrey Vian 
> wrote:
> I just tested on my windows 10 machine, where I have never previously
> installed chirp.
> Went to the download site and it automatically highlighted the correct
> version (installer) to download/
> After download I double clicked on the file just downloaded and it opened
> the installer and did a normal windows install.
>
> The menu then contained the launch icon and it just worked.
>
> Don't know how you have an issue with installing it on windows so if there
> is more problem please let us know the details of exactly what is going
> wrong.
>
> Jeff
> KI7GJG
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 10:10 AM Jeffrey Vian <
> sandhillsinvestm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> To install chirp on windows 10 I think you must use the Chirp Windows
>> installer
>>
>> https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_next/next-20231016/
>> and the one that has the name chirp-next--installer.exe
>>
>> Jeff
>> KI7GJG
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 8:52 AM Gene  wrote:
>>
>>> I have downloaded Chirp several times. Try to install with No luck. I
>>> have tried different browsers. I have tried rebooting. I have tried in safe
>>> mode. I have tried all the tricks I can find on the internet, and nothing
>>> works. It's like something or some file is missing. I am at my wits end.
>>> The install gets to the screen to verify and agree to the license but
>>> nothing appears. No license. It sits there for about 5 seconds then
>>> vanishes and nothing more.  I am on an HP Laptop using Windows 10. Please
>>> help.
>>> [image: 62cc90ee-bbbd-4080-a05b-465351b94590]
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Jim Unroe]

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 9:53 AM Gene  wrote:
>
> I have downloaded Chirp several times. Try to install with No luck. I have 
> tried different browsers. I have tried rebooting. I have tried in safe mode. 
> I have tried all the tricks I can find on the internet, and nothing works. 
> It's like something or some file is missing. I am at my wits end. The install 
> gets to the screen to verify and agree to the license but nothing appears. No 
> license. It sits there for about 5 seconds then vanishes and nothing more.  I 
> am on an HP Laptop using Windows 10. Please help.
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Review the CHIRP-next requirements on the CHIRP download page. For
Windows it requires Windows 10 64-bit or later.

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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF]

Just worked fine for me on Win11.

> On 20/10/2023 11:18 EDT Gene  wrote:
> 
> 
> I am running Windows 10. I am downloading the one it recommends.
> chirp-next-20231016-installer.exe 
> (https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_next/next-20231016/chirp-next-20231016-installer.exe)
>2023-10-16 02:2923M Windows Installer (recommended  
> 
> > On 10/20/2023 10:04:20 AM, K0LNY ??  wrote:
> > Hi Gene,
> > What version of windows are you using?
> > Also, are you using a 32 bit windows?
> > Chirp-next may be looking for windows 10.
> > And finally, did you just get the daily Chirp-next, or are you actually 
> > using the Chirp Windows installer?
> > Glenn
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Gene
> > To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
> > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 8:51 AM
> > Subject: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install
> > 
> > I have downloaded Chirp several times. Try to install with No luck. I have 
> > tried different browsers. I have tried rebooting. I have tried in safe 
> > mode. I have tried all the tricks I can find on the internet, and nothing 
> > works. It's like something or some file is missing. I am at my wits end. 
> > The install gets to the screen to verify and agree to the license but 
> > nothing appears. No license. It sits there for about 5 seconds then 
> > vanishes and nothing more. I am on an HP Laptop using Windows 10. Please 
> > help.
> > 
> > 
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[Jeffrey Vian]

To install chirp on windows 10 I think you must use the Chirp Windows
installer

https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_next/next-20231016/
and the one that has the name chirp-next--installer.exe

Jeff
KI7GJG



On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 8:52 AM Gene  wrote:

> I have downloaded Chirp several times. Try to install with No luck. I have
> tried different browsers. I have tried rebooting. I have tried in safe
> mode. I have tried all the tricks I can find on the internet, and nothing
> works. It's like something or some file is missing. I am at my wits end.
> The install gets to the screen to verify and agree to the license but
> nothing appears. No license. It sits there for about 5 seconds then
> vanishes and nothing more.  I am on an HP Laptop using Windows 10. Please
> help.
> [image: 62cc90ee-bbbd-4080-a05b-465351b94590]
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install

[K0LNY ??]

Hi Gene,
What version of windows are you using?
Also, are you using a 32 bit windows?
Chirp-next may be looking for windows 10.
And finally, did you just get the daily Chirp-next, or are you actually using 
the Chirp Windows installer?
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: Gene 
To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com 
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 8:51 AM
Subject: [chirp_users] Chirp will not install


I have downloaded Chirp several times. Try to install with No luck. I have 
tried different browsers. I have tried rebooting. I have tried in safe mode. I 
have tried all the tricks I can find on the internet, and nothing works. It's 
like something or some file is missing. I am at my wits end. The install gets 
to the screen to verify and agree to the license but nothing appears. No 
license. It sits there for about 5 seconds then vanishes and nothing more.  I 
am on an HP Laptop using Windows 10. Please help.

 





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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP @ Wouxun KG-Q10H

[K0LNY ??]

Hi Mark,
If a cable only sometimes works, it is likely that the plastic block that holds 
the pins needs to be shaved at the corners so it will fit better in the 
recessed area where the plugs are on the radio.
Glenn
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From: Marc 
To: Discussion of CHIRP 
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2023 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP @ Wouxun KG-Q10H


I had a cable for my uv5r and I got this uv5x3 radio and the same cable was 
giving me trouble. Sometimes work sometimes not had to plug it in and out a 
bunch of times. I ordered the cable recommended for the 5x3 and no more issues. 
So you may possibly need the other cable. There is one way to find out though 
haha! GL!


Marc


On Fri, Oct 6, 2023, 12:25 PM Gary  wrote:

  My existing cable has never had a problem with my Baofeng, and it was a 
suggested cable (it's buried behind my computer, so I can't see the label) and 
not one of the cheap ones. What I had heard was that only the Wouxun cable 
would work, so the first thing I did was test the actual physical connection, 
and my cable fits the Wouxun radio perfectly.


  So now I'm waiting for the CHIRP gurus to perfect the app for the KG-Q10H 
radio.


  On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 11:16 AM K0LNY ??  wrote:

Seems like the cheap ones work better in Linux than they do in windows.
Sometimes you have to install an older prolific driver in windows to make 
them work.
I mix up my cables, and what works in my Baofengs usually work in my other 
radios.
If it works, it is good, it will let you know if it isn't working.
Glenn
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Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2023 9:17 PM
Subject: [chirp_users] CHIRP @ Wouxun KG-Q10H


Just bought the KG-Q10H, and immediately came here to see if CHIRP was now 
available for the radio. Looks like it's BETA, and that's fine...will wait till 
it's gold. I already have a Baofeng UV8 that I use the latest version of CHIRP 
with, so I'm now wondering if the programming cable I have now for the Baofeng 
will work. It's one of the recommended cables (when I first got my Baofeng, I 
came up here to get CHIRP and bought a good recommended cable), and I've 
physically plugged it into the Wouxun with no problems.  


Of course, Wouxun wants to sell me their cable, for another $25, but if the 
one I now have works, I don't want yet another cable plugged into my computer. 
So what do you think? If it works well with the Baofeng, should it work with 
the Wouxun. I saw a remark from another BETA tester who said his "cheap Amazon 
cable was working fine."



Cheers

-= Gary =- 







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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP @ Wouxun KG-Q10H

[K0LNY ??]

Hi Chief,
Probably the CTCSS tones aren't the same as they were.
If you don't identify any differences, hopefully you can upload your old file 
and get back what you had.
Glenn
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From: Chief Gregory 
To: Discussion of CHIRP 
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2023 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP @ Wouxun KG-Q10H


Hello. I followed instructions per CHIRP. I was receiving lots of chatter on my 
Boafeng UV8 from miles around including the fire department prior to Uploaded 
and downloaded. I have now lost my chatter after downloading frequencies in my 
area. 


All the frequencies up to 78 channels are showing. What did I do wrong. 


wala’lin, thank you, merci 


Chief Gregory Burke 

Chief Advisor & Spoke Person

Atlantic Metis Nation

https://www.atlanticmetisnation.org/













  On Oct 6, 2023, at 1:25 PM, Gary  wrote:


  
  My existing cable has never had a problem with my Baofeng, and it was a 
suggested cable (it's buried behind my computer, so I can't see the label) and 
not one of the cheap ones. What I had heard was that only the Wouxun cable 
would work, so the first thing I did was test the actual physical connection, 
and my cable fits the Wouxun radio perfectly.


  So now I'm waiting for the CHIRP gurus to perfect the app for the KG-Q10H 
radio.


  On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 11:16 AM K0LNY ??  wrote:

Seems like the cheap ones work better in Linux than they do in windows.
Sometimes you have to install an older prolific driver in windows to make 
them work.
I mix up my cables, and what works in my Baofengs usually work in my other 
radios.
If it works, it is good, it will let you know if it isn't working.
Glenn
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From: Gary 
To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com 
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2023 9:17 PM
Subject: [chirp_users] CHIRP @ Wouxun KG-Q10H


Just bought the KG-Q10H, and immediately came here to see if CHIRP was now 
available for the radio. Looks like it's BETA, and that's fine...will wait till 
it's gold. I already have a Baofeng UV8 that I use the latest version of CHIRP 
with, so I'm now wondering if the programming cable I have now for the Baofeng 
will work. It's one of the recommended cables (when I first got my Baofeng, I 
came up here to get CHIRP and bought a good recommended cable), and I've 
physically plugged it into the Wouxun with no problems.  


Of course, Wouxun wants to sell me their cable, for another $25, but if the 
one I now have works, I don't want yet another cable plugged into my computer. 
So what do you think? If it works well with the Baofeng, should it work with 
the Wouxun. I saw a remark from another BETA tester who said his "cheap Amazon 
cable was working fine."



Cheers

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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP @ Wouxun KG-Q10H

[Chief Gregory]

Thanks Marc, I’m going to try that will give an update. Gwala’lin, thank you, merci Chief Gregory Burke Chief Advisor & Spoke PersonAtlantic Metis Nationhttps://www.atlanticmetisnation.org/ On Oct 6, 2023, at 2:26 PM, Marc  wrote:Did you save your original image that was working? I would load that back up for starters and see if the radio is performing as before. Then we can go from there.MarcOn Fri, Oct 6, 2023, 1:10 PM Chief Gregory  wrote:Hello. I followed instructions per CHIRP. I was receiving lots of chatter on my Boafeng UV8 from miles around including the fire department prior to Uploaded and downloaded. I have now lost my chatter after downloading frequencies in my area. All the frequencies up to 78 channels are showing. What did I do wrong. wala’lin, thank you, merci Chief Gregory Burke Chief Advisor & Spoke PersonAtlantic Metis Nationhttps://www.atlanticmetisnation.org/ On Oct 6, 2023, at 1:25 PM, Gary  wrote:My existing cable has never had a problem with my Baofeng, and it was a suggested cable (it's buried behind my computer, so I can't see the label) and not one of the cheap ones. What I had heard was that only the Wouxun cable would work, so the first thing I did was test the actual physical connection, and my cable fits the Wouxun radio perfectly.So now I'm waiting for the CHIRP gurus to perfect the app for the KG-Q10H radio.On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 11:16 AM K0LNY ??  wrote:






Seems like the cheap ones work better in Linux than 
they do in windows.
Sometimes you have to install an older prolific 
driver in windows to make them work.
I mix up my cables, and what works in my Baofengs 
usually work in my other radios.
If it works, it is good, it will let you know if it 
isn't working.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: Gary 
To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com 

Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2023 9:17 PM
Subject: [chirp_users] CHIRP @ Wouxun KG-Q10H


Just bought the KG-Q10H, and immediately came here to see if 
CHIRP was now available for the radio. Looks like it's BETA, and that's 
fine...will wait till it's gold. I already have a Baofeng UV8 that I use the 
latest version of CHIRP with, so I'm now wondering if the programming cable I 
have now for the Baofeng will work. It's one of the recommended cables (when I 
first got my Baofeng, I came up here to get CHIRP and bought a good recommended 
cable), and I've physically plugged it into the Wouxun with no problems. 

Of course, Wouxun wants to sell me their cable, for another $25, but if the 
one I now have works, I don't want yet another cable plugged into my computer. 
So what do you think? If it works well with the Baofeng, should it work with the 
Wouxun. I saw a remark from another BETA tester who said his "cheap Amazon 
cable was working fine."

Cheers

-= Gary =-




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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP @ Wouxun KG-Q10H

[Marc]

Did you save your original image that was working? I would load that back
up for starters and see if the radio is performing as before. Then we can
go from there.

Marc

On Fri, Oct 6, 2023, 1:10 PM Chief Gregory 
wrote:

> Hello. I followed instructions per CHIRP. I was receiving lots of chatter
> on my Boafeng UV8 from miles around including the fire department prior to
> Uploaded and downloaded. I have now lost my chatter after downloading
> frequencies in my area.
>
> All the frequencies up to 78 channels are showing. What did I do wrong.
>
> *wala’lin, thank you, merci*
>
> *Chief Gregory Burke *
>
> *Chief Advisor & Spoke Person*
>
> *Atlantic Metis Nation*
>
> *https://www.atlanticmetisnation.org/*
> 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 6, 2023, at 1:25 PM, Gary  wrote:
>
> 
> My existing cable has never had a problem with my Baofeng, and it was a
> suggested cable (it's buried behind my computer, so I can't see the label)
> and not one of the cheap ones. What I had heard was that only the Wouxun
> cable would work, so the first thing I did was test the actual physical
> connection, and my cable fits the Wouxun radio perfectly.
>
> So now I'm waiting for the CHIRP gurus to perfect the app for the KG-Q10H
> radio.
>
> On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 11:16 AM K0LNY ??  wrote:
>
>> Seems like the cheap ones work better in Linux than they do in windows.
>> Sometimes you have to install an older prolific driver in windows to make
>> them work.
>> I mix up my cables, and what works in my Baofengs usually work in my
>> other radios.
>> If it works, it is good, it will let you know if it isn't working.
>> Glenn
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Gary 
>> *To:* chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 5, 2023 9:17 PM
>> *Subject:* [chirp_users] CHIRP @ Wouxun KG-Q10H
>>
>> Just bought the KG-Q10H, and immediately came here to see if CHIRP was
>> now available for the radio. Looks like it's BETA, and that's fine...will
>> wait till it's gold. I already have a Baofeng UV8 that I use the latest
>> version of CHIRP with, so I'm now wondering if the programming cable I have
>> now for the Baofeng will work. It's one of the recommended cables (when I
>> first got my Baofeng, I came up here to get CHIRP and bought a good
>> recommended cable), and I've physically plugged it into the Wouxun with no
>> problems.
>>
>> Of course, Wouxun wants to sell me their cable, for another $25, but if
>> the one I now have works, I don't want yet another cable plugged into my
>> computer. So what do you think? If it works well with the Baofeng, should
>> it work with the Wouxun. I saw a remark from another BETA tester who said
>> his "cheap Amazon cable was working fine."
>>
>> Cheers
>> -= Gary =-
>>
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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP @ Wouxun KG-Q10H

[Marc]

I had a cable for my uv5r and I got this uv5x3 radio and the same cable was
giving me trouble. Sometimes work sometimes not had to plug it in and out a
bunch of times. I ordered the cable recommended for the 5x3 and no more
issues. So you may possibly need the other cable. There is one way to find
out though haha! GL!

Marc

On Fri, Oct 6, 2023, 12:25 PM Gary  wrote:

> My existing cable has never had a problem with my Baofeng, and it was a
> suggested cable (it's buried behind my computer, so I can't see the label)
> and not one of the cheap ones. What I had heard was that only the Wouxun
> cable would work, so the first thing I did was test the actual physical
> connection, and my cable fits the Wouxun radio perfectly.
>
> So now I'm waiting for the CHIRP gurus to perfect the app for the KG-Q10H
> radio.
>
> On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 11:16 AM K0LNY ??  wrote:
>
>> Seems like the cheap ones work better in Linux than they do in windows.
>> Sometimes you have to install an older prolific driver in windows to make
>> them work.
>> I mix up my cables, and what works in my Baofengs usually work in my
>> other radios.
>> If it works, it is good, it will let you know if it isn't working.
>> Glenn
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Gary 
>> *To:* chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 5, 2023 9:17 PM
>> *Subject:* [chirp_users] CHIRP @ Wouxun KG-Q10H
>>
>> Just bought the KG-Q10H, and immediately came here to see if CHIRP was
>> now available for the radio. Looks like it's BETA, and that's fine...will
>> wait till it's gold. I already have a Baofeng UV8 that I use the latest
>> version of CHIRP with, so I'm now wondering if the programming cable I have
>> now for the Baofeng will work. It's one of the recommended cables (when I
>> first got my Baofeng, I came up here to get CHIRP and bought a good
>> recommended cable), and I've physically plugged it into the Wouxun with no
>> problems.
>>
>> Of course, Wouxun wants to sell me their cable, for another $25, but if
>> the one I now have works, I don't want yet another cable plugged into my
>> computer. So what do you think? If it works well with the Baofeng, should
>> it work with the Wouxun. I saw a remark from another BETA tester who said
>> his "cheap Amazon cable was working fine."
>>
>> Cheers
>> -= Gary =-
>>
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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP @ Wouxun KG-Q10H

[Chief Gregory]

Hello. I followed instructions per CHIRP. I was receiving lots of chatter on my Boafeng UV8 from miles around including the fire department prior to Uploaded and downloaded. I have now lost my chatter after downloading frequencies in my area. All the frequencies up to 78 channels are showing. What did I do wrong. wala’lin, thank you, merci Chief Gregory Burke Chief Advisor & Spoke PersonAtlantic Metis Nationhttps://www.atlanticmetisnation.org/ On Oct 6, 2023, at 1:25 PM, Gary  wrote:My existing cable has never had a problem with my Baofeng, and it was a suggested cable (it's buried behind my computer, so I can't see the label) and not one of the cheap ones. What I had heard was that only the Wouxun cable would work, so the first thing I did was test the actual physical connection, and my cable fits the Wouxun radio perfectly.So now I'm waiting for the CHIRP gurus to perfect the app for the KG-Q10H radio.On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 11:16 AM K0LNY ??  wrote:






Seems like the cheap ones work better in Linux than 
they do in windows.
Sometimes you have to install an older prolific 
driver in windows to make them work.
I mix up my cables, and what works in my Baofengs 
usually work in my other radios.
If it works, it is good, it will let you know if it 
isn't working.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: Gary 
To: chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com 

Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2023 9:17 PM
Subject: [chirp_users] CHIRP @ Wouxun KG-Q10H


Just bought the KG-Q10H, and immediately came here to see if 
CHIRP was now available for the radio. Looks like it's BETA, and that's 
fine...will wait till it's gold. I already have a Baofeng UV8 that I use the 
latest version of CHIRP with, so I'm now wondering if the programming cable I 
have now for the Baofeng will work. It's one of the recommended cables (when I 
first got my Baofeng, I came up here to get CHIRP and bought a good recommended 
cable), and I've physically plugged it into the Wouxun with no problems. 

Of course, Wouxun wants to sell me their cable, for another $25, but if the 
one I now have works, I don't want yet another cable plugged into my computer. 
So what do you think? If it works well with the Baofeng, should it work with the 
Wouxun. I saw a remark from another BETA tester who said his "cheap Amazon 
cable was working fine."

Cheers

-= Gary =-




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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP @ Wouxun KG-Q10H

[Gary]

My existing cable has never had a problem with my Baofeng, and it was a
suggested cable (it's buried behind my computer, so I can't see the label)
and not one of the cheap ones. What I had heard was that only the Wouxun
cable would work, so the first thing I did was test the actual physical
connection, and my cable fits the Wouxun radio perfectly.

So now I'm waiting for the CHIRP gurus to perfect the app for the KG-Q10H
radio.

On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 11:16 AM K0LNY ??  wrote:

> Seems like the cheap ones work better in Linux than they do in windows.
> Sometimes you have to install an older prolific driver in windows to make
> them work.
> I mix up my cables, and what works in my Baofengs usually work in my other
> radios.
> If it works, it is good, it will let you know if it isn't working.
> Glenn
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Gary 
> *To:* chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 5, 2023 9:17 PM
> *Subject:* [chirp_users] CHIRP @ Wouxun KG-Q10H
>
> Just bought the KG-Q10H, and immediately came here to see if CHIRP was now
> available for the radio. Looks like it's BETA, and that's fine...will wait
> till it's gold. I already have a Baofeng UV8 that I use the latest version
> of CHIRP with, so I'm now wondering if the programming cable I have now for
> the Baofeng will work. It's one of the recommended cables (when I first got
> my Baofeng, I came up here to get CHIRP and bought a good recommended
> cable), and I've physically plugged it into the Wouxun with no problems.
>
> Of course, Wouxun wants to sell me their cable, for another $25, but if
> the one I now have works, I don't want yet another cable plugged into my
> computer. So what do you think? If it works well with the Baofeng, should
> it work with the Wouxun. I saw a remark from another BETA tester who said
> his "cheap Amazon cable was working fine."
>
> Cheers
> -= Gary =-
>
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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP @ Wouxun KG-Q10H

[K0LNY ??]

Seems like the cheap ones work better in Linux than they do in windows.
Sometimes you have to install an older prolific driver in windows to make them 
work.
I mix up my cables, and what works in my Baofengs usually work in my other 
radios.
If it works, it is good, it will let you know if it isn't working.
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Subject: [chirp_users] CHIRP @ Wouxun KG-Q10H


Just bought the KG-Q10H, and immediately came here to see if CHIRP was now 
available for the radio. Looks like it's BETA, and that's fine...will wait till 
it's gold. I already have a Baofeng UV8 that I use the latest version of CHIRP 
with, so I'm now wondering if the programming cable I have now for the Baofeng 
will work. It's one of the recommended cables (when I first got my Baofeng, I 
came up here to get CHIRP and bought a good recommended cable), and I've 
physically plugged it into the Wouxun with no problems. 


Of course, Wouxun wants to sell me their cable, for another $25, but if the one 
I now have works, I don't want yet another cable plugged into my computer. So 
what do you think? If it works well with the Baofeng, should it work with the 
Wouxun. I saw a remark from another BETA tester who said his "cheap Amazon 
cable was working fine."



Cheers

-= Gary =-







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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP Tips Videos

[Chad Reed]

I think your video was excellent and was explained very well. Thanks!!

On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 8:49 AM Danny K5CG  wrote:

> I have installed the latest and I was able to set my stock_configs folder
> as a folder on my cloud folder for syncing.
>
> Excellent!
>
> 73
> Danny, K5CG
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>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Danny Siminiuk" 
> To: "chirp users" 
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2023 10:32:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP Tips Videos
>
> Configuration Item.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Rich NE1EE" 
> To: "chirp users" 
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2023 5:38:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP Tips Videos
>
> On 2023-06-28 17:47:-0700, you wrote:
> >Adding the CI with the default path to the config file that could then be
> edited, would be a perfectly acceptable solution and still no need for a
> config dialog. :)I
>
> I missed what CI means, but I like the idea of an editable config file in
> APPDATA.
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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP Tips: Advanced Editing

[Dan Smith via chirp_users]

> How specifically does chirp decide? For example, if I changed any of the 
> files...and I don't really see that happening...the timestamp would change.

It calculates a cryptographic hash of the file contents to decide if they match 
the hash of the source. It should be basically infallible for these files.

> So I am getting ready to submit the report. First I tested it, and got the 
> debug log to attach.

Great, a source file for me to test against would be helpful as well.

> Now I find that my user is 'unknown' on chirp...
> 
> I see
> "Once you are logged in, click the 
> New issue link on the 
> menu bar above to get started. "
> but don't actually see the New issue link on any menu bar...so I clicked the 
> link, and that worked.
> 
> Now if I can remember that bug report you asked me to submit quite a while 
> ago...I'll look thru my emails...

Contact me off-list if you can't figure it out and I'll help you find your 
account and get logged in.

Thanks!

--Dan
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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP Tips: Advanced Editing

[Rich NE1EE]

I am really running behind my task list ;-)

On 2023-06-30 15:03:-0700, you wrote:
>In the olden times, CHIRP would copy all of the distributed stock configs 
><...> It's also a minor problem<...>
>
>In next,<...> In order to avoid duplication<...> next will purge the stock 
>configs from the personal location<...>only if they are unchanged from the 
>source file).

Great explanation. I thought it must be deliberate, but couldna imagine why. I 
have some application dev experience, so figured there was a reason under the 
hood. I copied them because it was just a test!! and it was easier than getting 
one of my own. Good lesson for me.

> just make any change to those files (like put a comment somewhere in the file 
> after the first header line, prefixed with a '#'). That should cause it to 
> look modified and chirp will leave it alone.

How specifically does chirp decide? For example, if I changed any of the 
files...and I don't really see that happening...the timestamp would change. I 
guess I am inclined to simply copy from the chirp files, and mod from there. I 
like the current way the chirp handles this...I was simply caught by surprise. 
I already group my entries in a similar fashion, keeping them in blocks on even 
boundaries for my convenience. That decision is even more convenient now. I had 
not realized some of the editing features of chirp, and did a lot of busy work 
to manage my file contents. That's all changed since your last vids.

>No, the section/group *does* matter. You can't just put keys wherever you 
>want, they have to be in the right place in order to be honored.

Got it.

>> BOM - yep. I tripped myself here. I have my editor set to change unknown 
>> file types that are UTF-8 to use a BOM. Then when I saved the config file, 
>> CHIRP threw a mysterious (at the time) error, saying that the first line had 
>> an error. Of course, it didn't appear in the editor, so I was puzzled at 
>> first.
>
>I should be able to fix this if you open a bug for the issue to "charge" it 
>against. I think may be the only person that will notice, but it's an easy 
>change in the encoding we use to read the file :)

So I am getting ready to submit the report. First I tested it, and got the 
debug log to attach.
Then I tried to follow directions to submit the bug report, but this page
https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/How_To_Report_Issues
has a link to itself for instructions.

Now I find that my user is 'unknown' on chirp...

I see
"Once you are logged in, click the 
New issue link on the 
menu bar above to get started. "
but don't actually see the New issue link on any menu bar...so I clicked the 
link, and that worked.

Now if I can remember that bug report you asked me to submit quite a while 
ago...I'll look thru my emails...

~R~
72/73 Rich NE1EE
The Dusty Key
On the banks of the Piscataqua

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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP Tips: Advanced Editing

[Dan Smith via chirp_users]

> I changed my 
> [prefs]
> stock_configs = E:\@online docs\Amateur Radio\CHIRP stock_configs
> as a test.
> 
> ?? Something I did yesterday during my testing and installing the latest 
> standalone version emptied out my custom stock_configs dir (or I did it by 
> mistake) and cleared the [prefs] section so that when I started up this 
> morning, I got the default loc.

In the olden times, CHIRP would copy all of the distributed stock configs into 
the user's personal directory. That was a big problem because it was then hard 
for us to update those files when they change (and they do, such as the new 
GMRS rules a few years ago). It's also a minor problem in that it's harder to 
distinguish your files from the distributed ones in the same directory and 
deleting them would cause CHIRP to just copy them in again.

In next, the distributed ones are separate from the user's own stock configs, 
we read them out of each location, and that's also why they're separated in the 
menu so you can tell the difference. In order to avoid duplication for people 
who have stock configs that were copied into their personal directory by 
legacy, next will purge the stock configs from the personal location they exist 
there (and only if they are unchanged from the source file).

So, assuming you've copied some of the distributed files directly into your 
personal/overridden stock_configs directory, you'll see that purging activity 
happen because chirp assumes it was legacy that copied those files there. If 
you don't want that to happen, just make any change to those files (like put a 
comment somewhere in the file after the first header line, prefixed with a 
'#'). That should cause it to look modified and chirp will leave it alone.

> https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/AdvancedConfig
> "Group" =? "section" ?

A library I use for reading these files calls them groups, but yes, you got it.

> Maybe [whatever] isn't really needed? CHIRP simply scans for keys? At any 
> rate, I decided that "group" means "section", and it worked fine.

No, the section/group *does* matter. You can't just put keys wherever you want, 
they have to be in the right place in order to be honored.

> BOM - yep. I tripped myself here. I have my editor set to change unknown file 
> types that are UTF-8 to use a BOM. Then when I saved the config file, CHIRP 
> threw a mysterious (at the time) error, saying that the first line had an 
> error. Of course, it didn't appear in the editor, so I was puzzled at first.

I should be able to fix this if you open a bug for the issue to "charge" it 
against. I think may be the only person that will notice, but it's an easy 
change in the encoding we use to read the file :)

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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP Tips: Advanced Editing

[Rich NE1EE]

On 2023-06-29 15:30:-0700, you wrote:
>I posted another "CHIRP Tips" video,<...>
>Hopefully there's at least one tip in there you didn't already know about!

GM, Dan,
Given the questions that pop up here, I say that we can really use these vids. 
Not only did I learn a few techniques, but it was nice to hear your rationale 
for managing channels, even if I have chosen a somewhat different approach. 
I'll review the vid and think about what I do...

I changed my 
[prefs]
stock_configs = E:\@online docs\Amateur Radio\CHIRP stock_configs
as a test.

?? Something I did yesterday during my testing and installing the latest 
standalone version emptied out my custom stock_configs dir (or I did it by 
mistake) and cleared the [prefs] section so that when I started up this 
morning, I got the default loc.

** I subsequently did all the steps again today, including installing the new 
chirp-next-20230630-win32 version, adding [prefs] to my config. At the end of 
the tests, some files are missing.

I had copied the csv files from the CHIRP install to my custom dir, as a way to 
get a bunch of files to test, rather than comb mine from various places. After 
I closed CHIRP, they are missing from my custom dir. All that remains are the 
files of mine that I placed there.

YouTube URL names:
I'd like to see them save down as
CHIRP - AdvancedConfig
instead of
AdvancedConfig - CHIRP
I rename all such links this way so that they are grouped better in my file 
system. Then when I am looking for CHIRP (whatever) links, I scan for CHIRP 
first, then the subject.

https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/AdvancedConfig
"Group" =? "section" ?
Maybe [whatever] isn't really needed? CHIRP simply scans for keys? At any rate, 
I decided that "group" means "section", and it worked fine.
stock_configs : dir names with spaces? Yes...handled them with no "" required.

BOM - yep. I tripped myself here. I have my editor set to change unknown file 
types that are UTF-8 to use a BOM. Then when I saved the config file, CHIRP 
threw a mysterious (at the time) error, saying that the first line had an 
error. Of course, it didn't appear in the editor, so I was puzzled at first.

~R~
72/73 de Rich NE1EE
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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP Tips Videos

[Danny K5CG]

I have installed the latest and I was able to set my stock_configs folder as a 
folder on my cloud folder for syncing.

Excellent!

73 
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Configuration Item.


- Original Message -
From: "Rich NE1EE" 
To: "chirp users" 
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2023 5:38:06 AM
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP Tips Videos

On 2023-06-28 17:47:-0700, you wrote:
>Adding the CI with the default path to the config file that could then be 
>edited, would be a perfectly acceptable solution and still no need for a 
>config dialog. :)I

I missed what CI means, but I like the idea of an editable config file in 
APPDATA. 

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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP Tips Videos

[Danny K5CG]

Configuration Item.


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From: "Rich NE1EE" 
To: "chirp users" 
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2023 5:38:06 AM
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP Tips Videos

On 2023-06-28 17:47:-0700, you wrote:
>Adding the CI with the default path to the config file that could then be 
>edited, would be a perfectly acceptable solution and still no need for a 
>config dialog. :)I

I missed what CI means, but I like the idea of an editable config file in 
APPDATA. 

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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP Tips Videos

[Rich NE1EE]

On 2023-06-28 17:47:-0700, you wrote:
>Adding the CI with the default path to the config file that could then be 
>edited, would be a perfectly acceptable solution and still no need for a 
>config dialog. :)I

I missed what CI means, but I like the idea of an editable config file in 
APPDATA. 

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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP Tips Videos

[Danny K5CG]

Adding the CI with the default path to the config file that could then be 
edited, would be a perfectly acceptable solution and still no need for a config 
dialog. :)

Thanks
Danny

73 
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SKCC 14257

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To: "chirp users" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2023 4:38:23 PM
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP Tips Videos

> It believe it would be useful for both Windows and Linux versions to be able 
> to define a custom path for stock config files.
> 
> I use Nextcloud extensively and I created a folder for configurations for all 
> sorts of programs, Filezilla xml site definitions, mRemoteNG xml, etc. This 
> configuration folder is sync'd across every PC I use. This could be used for 
> any cloud integration like OneDrive or Google drive and is independent of 
> %APPDATA% and would never be lost unless you intentionally delete it.

Yep, I do something similar, so this makes sense to me. I've always kinda tried 
to keep CHIRP sort of "stateful" without a need for a prefs dialog, and things 
like this are hard to expose without one. But, there are a number of sort of 
"hidden" features that you can enable directly in the config, and this seems 
like a reasonable thing to add to that list:

https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/AdvancedConfig

So I'll work on that and add it to the list above when it's available.

Thanks!

--Dan
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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP Tips Videos

[Dan Smith via chirp_users]

> It believe it would be useful for both Windows and Linux versions to be able 
> to define a custom path for stock config files.
> 
> I use Nextcloud extensively and I created a folder for configurations for all 
> sorts of programs, Filezilla xml site definitions, mRemoteNG xml, etc. This 
> configuration folder is sync'd across every PC I use. This could be used for 
> any cloud integration like OneDrive or Google drive and is independent of 
> %APPDATA% and would never be lost unless you intentionally delete it.

Yep, I do something similar, so this makes sense to me. I've always kinda tried 
to keep CHIRP sort of "stateful" without a need for a prefs dialog, and things 
like this are hard to expose without one. But, there are a number of sort of 
"hidden" features that you can enable directly in the config, and this seems 
like a reasonable thing to add to that list:

https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/AdvancedConfig

So I'll work on that and add it to the list above when it's available.

Thanks!

--Dan
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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP Tips Videos

[Danny K5CG]

Nice video.

It believe it would be useful for both Windows and Linux versions to be able to 
define a custom path for stock config files.

I use Nextcloud extensively and I created a folder for configurations for all 
sorts of programs, Filezilla xml site definitions, mRemoteNG xml, etc. This 
configuration folder is sync'd across every PC I use. This could be used for 
any cloud integration like OneDrive or Google drive and is independent of 
%APPDATA% and would never be lost unless you intentionally delete it.

Thanks

73 
Danny, K5CG 
HH 550-000-0609 
SKCC 14257

- Original Message -
From: "W Paul Mills" 
To: "chirp users" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2023 11:29:52 AM
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP Tips Videos

Actually very good! I think some of those who make videos all the time 
could take a few tips from how this one was done.

On 6/27/23 22:13, Dan Smith via chirp_users wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> There is a lot of useful content out on youtube that provides step-by-step 
> instructions for some general workflows with CHIRP. However, there are a lot 
> of other things you can do with CHIRP that never seem to get covered. Lately 
> as I have helped people adjust to some of the things that are different in 
> CHIRP next, I've been thinking that it might be nice to have a set of very 
> short to-the-point videos that cover some of the more obscure features. 
> Things you may or may not know about, or that you feel you don't quite 
> understand enough to use properly, or things that have been added and gone 
> unnoticed. Videos covering how to do something in CHIRP legacy may no longer 
> be accurate or helpful today.
>
> Now, I'm not an influencer and I never will be. I'm not a cinematographer, 
> narrator, or artist. Videos I make will never have the pizzaz of HRCC or some 
> of the other people in the business. I'm an engineer and I'm only good at 
> drawing straight lines and right angles. I don't want to make movies, I want 
> to work on CHIRP. But, I can make short low-budget demonstration videos with 
> dry voiceovers and probably help explain things better, so I figured I might 
> give it a go.
>
> I've published the first video on custom stock configurations here:
>
> https://youtu.be/U3s5cT3IAco
>
> It's a little rough and I promise the next one will be better. If these are 
> useful to you, please let me know here and subscribe to the channel so I can 
> gauge interest. I have at least a few other topics that I think are not often 
> well understood that I can cover in future videos, and let me know if you 
> have other ideas. I want to keep these mostly radio-neutral, meaning they 
> should be about how to use CHIRP in general, and not how to program a UV-5R. 
> Josh already has that sort of thing covered. If it seems like making more of 
> these is worth the trouble, I'll do that.
>
> Be gentle! :)
>
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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP Tips Videos

[W Paul Mills]

Actually very good! I think some of those who make videos all the time 
could take a few tips from how this one was done.

On 6/27/23 22:13, Dan Smith via chirp_users wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> There is a lot of useful content out on youtube that provides step-by-step 
> instructions for some general workflows with CHIRP. However, there are a lot 
> of other things you can do with CHIRP that never seem to get covered. Lately 
> as I have helped people adjust to some of the things that are different in 
> CHIRP next, I've been thinking that it might be nice to have a set of very 
> short to-the-point videos that cover some of the more obscure features. 
> Things you may or may not know about, or that you feel you don't quite 
> understand enough to use properly, or things that have been added and gone 
> unnoticed. Videos covering how to do something in CHIRP legacy may no longer 
> be accurate or helpful today.
>
> Now, I'm not an influencer and I never will be. I'm not a cinematographer, 
> narrator, or artist. Videos I make will never have the pizzaz of HRCC or some 
> of the other people in the business. I'm an engineer and I'm only good at 
> drawing straight lines and right angles. I don't want to make movies, I want 
> to work on CHIRP. But, I can make short low-budget demonstration videos with 
> dry voiceovers and probably help explain things better, so I figured I might 
> give it a go.
>
> I've published the first video on custom stock configurations here:
>
> https://youtu.be/U3s5cT3IAco
>
> It's a little rough and I promise the next one will be better. If these are 
> useful to you, please let me know here and subscribe to the channel so I can 
> gauge interest. I have at least a few other topics that I think are not often 
> well understood that I can cover in future videos, and let me know if you 
> have other ideas. I want to keep these mostly radio-neutral, meaning they 
> should be about how to use CHIRP in general, and not how to program a UV-5R. 
> Josh already has that sort of thing covered. If it seems like making more of 
> these is worth the trouble, I'll do that.
>
> Be gentle! :)
>
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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP Tips Videos

[Rich NE1EE]

On 2023-06-28 06:33:-0700, you wrote:
>Hi Rich,
>> 2. In the standalone version, such files can be written to 
>> "...\chirp-next-20230628-win32\chirp\stock_configs", <...>
>
>You _can_ do this, but you shouldn't.<...>then your personal files will be 
>erased when you upgrade.<...>If you put them in %APPDATA% then they will stay 
>around across upgrades in perpetuity.

Yes. These are important notes. And my reply, while wordy, is not meant to 
disagree :-) I have never been happy with APPDATA, because I manage my data on 
my own, and have done so since the 1970s, when I first began using computers. I 
don't find APPDATA convenient at all, but more of an annoyance. Nonetheless, I 
see its value for many casual users. And the point of not using 
"...\chirp-next-20230628-win32\chirp\stock_configs" is also a good one to think 
about. I meant it only as an indicator of how things might be done, not a 
recommendation. For me, however, putting files there is preferable to APPDATA, 
because a) I am comfortable with managing data files on a computer, and b) the 
install of the chirp zip file doesna delete the old version, as the installer 
apparently does, near as I can tell. Of course, as I mentioned in the past, I 
/actually/ keep my files in two areas: a radio-specific dir, and a 'catch-all' 
dir, rather than APPDATA, not  in '\stock_configs'.

~R~
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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP Tips Videos

[Dan Smith via chirp_users]

Hi Rich,

> 1. With both the installed and standalone, files can be saved anywhere, and 
> don't need to be saved in %appdata%...I keep mine in radio-specific dirs, 
> along with other files and docs pertaining to each radio. This includes radio 
> image files saved by other programs, such as Kenwood's MCP-2A.
> 
> 2. In the standalone version, such files can be written to 
> "...\chirp-next-20230628-win32\chirp\stock_configs", where ... is any dir 
> tree leading to a specified dir, with no loss of functionality. My habit of 
> putting them in radio-specific dirs keeps them independent of version changes 
> of chirp and independent of radio. See also "...\Amateur Radio\generic radio 
> channel config files", where I save config file "snippets", such as those 
> supplied in chirp's "...\stock_configs".

You _can_ do this, but you shouldn't. The "personal" stock_configs directory is 
*only* in %APPDATA%\CHIRP, regardless of whether or not you use the standalone 
or installed version. If you put them in the extracted folder (or the 
equivalent installed one in Program Files) then your personal files will be 
erased when you upgrade. That's where chirp's shipped files live. If you put 
them in %APPDATA% then they will stay around across upgrades in perpetuity. 
Also, the personal ones (from the personal directory) sit above a divider line 
in the menu so you can quickly spot them as separate from the provided ones.

--Dan
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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP Tips Videos

[Jeff Gallaway]

That was helpful info!!


Thanks, Jeff

On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, 11:15 PM Dan Smith via chirp_users <
chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> There is a lot of useful content out on youtube that provides step-by-step
> instructions for some general workflows with CHIRP. However, there are a
> lot of other things you can do with CHIRP that never seem to get covered.
> Lately as I have helped people adjust to some of the things that are
> different in CHIRP next, I've been thinking that it might be nice to have a
> set of very short to-the-point videos that cover some of the more obscure
> features. Things you may or may not know about, or that you feel you don't
> quite understand enough to use properly, or things that have been added and
> gone unnoticed. Videos covering how to do something in CHIRP legacy may no
> longer be accurate or helpful today.
>
> Now, I'm not an influencer and I never will be. I'm not a cinematographer,
> narrator, or artist. Videos I make will never have the pizzaz of HRCC or
> some of the other people in the business. I'm an engineer and I'm only good
> at drawing straight lines and right angles. I don't want to make movies, I
> want to work on CHIRP. But, I can make short low-budget demonstration
> videos with dry voiceovers and probably help explain things better, so I
> figured I might give it a go.
>
> I've published the first video on custom stock configurations here:
>
> https://youtu.be/U3s5cT3IAco
>
> It's a little rough and I promise the next one will be better. If these
> are useful to you, please let me know here and subscribe to the channel so
> I can gauge interest. I have at least a few other topics that I think are
> not often well understood that I can cover in future videos, and let me
> know if you have other ideas. I want to keep these mostly radio-neutral,
> meaning they should be about how to use CHIRP in general, and not how to
> program a UV-5R. Josh already has that sort of thing covered. If it seems
> like making more of these is worth the trouble, I'll do that.
>
> Be gentle! :)
>
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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP Tips Videos

[Rich NE1EE]

On 2023-06-27 20:13:-0700, you wrote:
> I've been thinking that it might be nice to have a set of very short 
> to-the-point videos that cover some of the more obscure features.

I use chirp-next-20230628-win32. I think the vids need to distinguish twixt the 
installed and standalone versions, to the degree that they differ in how they 
are used.

1. With both the installed and standalone, files can be saved anywhere, and 
don't need to be saved in %appdata%...I keep mine in radio-specific dirs, along 
with other files and docs pertaining to each radio. This includes radio image 
files saved by other programs, such as Kenwood's MCP-2A.

2. In the standalone version, such files can be written to 
"...\chirp-next-20230628-win32\chirp\stock_configs", where ... is any dir tree 
leading to a specified dir, with no loss of functionality. My habit of putting 
them in radio-specific dirs keeps them independent of version changes of chirp 
and independent of radio. See also "...\Amateur Radio\generic radio channel 
config files", where I save config file "snippets", such as those supplied in 
chirp's "...\stock_configs".

3. I encourage the use of longer filenames, because I have found in the past 
that after a while I don't recall what a file actually contains. See "TH-F6A 
HAM NOAA FRS GMRS MURS mmdda", for example, where mmdd is the date of 
the file, and a is an a-z alpha addition in case I save several versions on one 
day.

4. I understand the convenience of storing config files where chirp can find 
them by default.

5. You blew past the warning about unsaved file. I think a comment is deserved 
here...

6. I have not viewed other chirp vids for quite a while. I think your 
presentation is tops. Very nice diction. Nicely organized, and well-prepared, 
exactly the hallmarks of a good teaching presentation, vid or whatever. I 
appreciate no background music, and the calm tone of presentation. Nice pace. I 
do pause such vids to do things related to the vid, but it is nice not to feel 
rushed.

7. I don't subscribe to any channels, but I did save the link, and will keep my 
eye out for more.

~R~
72/73 de Rich NE1EE
The Dusty Key
On the banks of the Piscataqua

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Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP Tips Videos

[John Wuest]

EXCELLENT !

On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 11:14 PM Dan Smith via chirp_users <
chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> There is a lot of useful content out on youtube that provides step-by-step
> instructions for some general workflows with CHIRP. However, there are a
> lot of other things you can do with CHIRP that never seem to get covered.
> Lately as I have helped people adjust to some of the things that are
> different in CHIRP next, I've been thinking that it might be nice to have a
> set of very short to-the-point videos that cover some of the more obscure
> features. Things you may or may not know about, or that you feel you don't
> quite understand enough to use properly, or things that have been added and
> gone unnoticed. Videos covering how to do something in CHIRP legacy may no
> longer be accurate or helpful today.
>
> Now, I'm not an influencer and I never will be. I'm not a cinematographer,
> narrator, or artist. Videos I make will never have the pizzaz of HRCC or
> some of the other people in the business. I'm an engineer and I'm only good
> at drawing straight lines and right angles. I don't want to make movies, I
> want to work on CHIRP. But, I can make short low-budget demonstration
> videos with dry voiceovers and probably help explain things better, so I
> figured I might give it a go.
>
> I've published the first video on custom stock configurations here:
>
> https://youtu.be/U3s5cT3IAco
>
> It's a little rough and I promise the next one will be better. If these
> are useful to you, please let me know here and subscribe to the channel so
> I can gauge interest. I have at least a few other topics that I think are
> not often well understood that I can cover in future videos, and let me
> know if you have other ideas. I want to keep these mostly radio-neutral,
> meaning they should be about how to use CHIRP in general, and not how to
> program a UV-5R. Josh already has that sort of thing covered. If it seems
> like making more of these is worth the trouble, I'll do that.
>
> Be gentle! :)
>
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp On Puppy Linux

[John KB2SCS]

Thank You All
  The amount of help that i got was and is amazing. Thank
you one and all.
Success! Chirp now works just fine on my Puppy Linux system.

Again thank you so much.

Best Regards
John


On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 6:02 PM Stuart Longland VK4MSL 
wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 12:24:07 -0400
> John KB2SCS  wrote:
>
> > For your help with my problem. The flavor of puppy Linux I am using is
> the
> > Ubuntu derivative called Fossapup.
> > Puppy does not have the apt command. In order to install
> libraries/packages
> > you use the puppy package manager to search and install packages from the
> > Ubuntu depositories. I think I have installed all the libraries I need.
>
> Okay, bit strange… Ubuntu is a Debian derivative, therefore uses `apt`,
> so as an Ubuntu derivative, there should be an `apt` binary installed.
>
> But, I digress…
>
> > I would like to run chirp from the command line with the following
> command.
> > Python3 Chirpw.py
> > Or
> > Python3 chirpwx.py
>
> Okay, watch case sensitivity here; most installs on Python (even on
> Windows) use a lower case `python`, and all Linux distributions are
> case-sensitive.  `python3` should work, but `Python3` will likely yield
> a "command not found".
>
> Similarly with file names; `Chirpw.py` won't work if the file is
> actually called `chirpw.py`.  I know it sounds pedantic, but on Unix
> variants, it matters.
>
> > Which ever is the new file name. In the  chirp-20230328.tar.gz
> > file that I downloaded and extracted does not have chirpw.py or
> chirpwx.py
> >
> > Is it no longer possible to run chirp via the python interpreter  running
> > the source code like you were able to run the legacy python 2 version of
> > chirp?
>
> The git repository does have a `chirpwx.py`.  This seems to not be
> distributed in the tarball.  That said, you can still run Chirp from
> the unpacked tarball:
>
> I downloaded
>
> https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_next/next-20230328/chirp-20230328.tar.gz
> -- for reference, here's the checksum to confirm you got the same file
> I did.
>
> $ sha256sum /tmp/chirp-20230328.tar.gz
> 5e4ce5f2eef80fec7a5d7e47383c99957c16a31df2f8b4a705fab0c50090ce5a
> /tmp/chirp-20230328.tar.gz
>
> I unpacked it with `tar -xzf chirp-20230328.tar.gz`; that created a
> `chirp-20230328` sub-directory.  Indeed, if I enter that directory and do
> a `ls`, there's no
> `chirpwx.py`.  I had a look though, there's a `chirp/wxui` sub-directory
> though, so I tried:
>
> $ python3 -m chirp.wxui
>
> The Chirp window appeared.  So you might be able to run it that way.
>
> That said, the safer approach may be to run `python3 setup.py install
> --user` and run it via whatever scripts that creates in your
> `~/.local/bin` directory (or via desktop icons).
> --
> Stuart Longland (aka Redhatter, VK4MSL)
>
> I haven't lost my mind...
>   ...it's backed up on a tape somewhere.
>


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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp On Puppy Linux

[Stuart Longland VK4MSL via chirp_users]

On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 12:24:07 -0400
John KB2SCS  wrote:

> For your help with my problem. The flavor of puppy Linux I am using is the
> Ubuntu derivative called Fossapup.
> Puppy does not have the apt command. In order to install libraries/packages
> you use the puppy package manager to search and install packages from the
> Ubuntu depositories. I think I have installed all the libraries I need.

Okay, bit strange… Ubuntu is a Debian derivative, therefore uses `apt`,
so as an Ubuntu derivative, there should be an `apt` binary installed.

But, I digress…

> I would like to run chirp from the command line with the following command.
> Python3 Chirpw.py
> Or
> Python3 chirpwx.py

Okay, watch case sensitivity here; most installs on Python (even on
Windows) use a lower case `python`, and all Linux distributions are
case-sensitive.  `python3` should work, but `Python3` will likely yield
a "command not found".

Similarly with file names; `Chirpw.py` won't work if the file is
actually called `chirpw.py`.  I know it sounds pedantic, but on Unix
variants, it matters.

> Which ever is the new file name. In the  chirp-20230328.tar.gz
> file that I downloaded and extracted does not have chirpw.py or chirpwx.py
> 
> Is it no longer possible to run chirp via the python interpreter  running
> the source code like you were able to run the legacy python 2 version of
> chirp?

The git repository does have a `chirpwx.py`.  This seems to not be
distributed in the tarball.  That said, you can still run Chirp from
the unpacked tarball:

I downloaded
https://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_next/next-20230328/chirp-20230328.tar.gz
-- for reference, here's the checksum to confirm you got the same file
I did.

$ sha256sum /tmp/chirp-20230328.tar.gz 
5e4ce5f2eef80fec7a5d7e47383c99957c16a31df2f8b4a705fab0c50090ce5a  
/tmp/chirp-20230328.tar.gz

I unpacked it with `tar -xzf chirp-20230328.tar.gz`; that created a
`chirp-20230328` sub-directory.  Indeed, if I enter that directory and do a 
`ls`, there's no
`chirpwx.py`.  I had a look though, there's a `chirp/wxui` sub-directory 
though, so I tried:

$ python3 -m chirp.wxui

The Chirp window appeared.  So you might be able to run it that way.

That said, the safer approach may be to run `python3 setup.py install
--user` and run it via whatever scripts that creates in your
`~/.local/bin` directory (or via desktop icons).
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp On Puppy Linux

[John KB2SCS]

Thank you Jeffrey Stuart Martin Dave B Jim
For your help with my problem. The flavor of puppy Linux I am using is the
Ubuntu derivative called Fossapup.
Puppy does not have the apt command. In order to install libraries/packages
you use the puppy package manager to search and install packages from the
Ubuntu depositories. I think I have installed all the libraries I need.

I would like to run chirp from the command line with the following command.
Python3 Chirpw.py
Or
Python3 chirpwx.py

Which ever is the new file name. In the  chirp-20230328.tar.gz
file that I downloaded and extracted does not have chirpw.py or chirpwx.py

Is it no longer possible to run chirp via the python interpreter  running
the source code like you were able to run the legacy python 2 version of
chirp?

Again thank you all for your help. It is greatly appreciated.

Best regards
John

On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 9:25 PM Jeffrey Vian 
wrote:

> The chirp download site and the linux instructions have all been updated
> in the last few days.
> https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/Download
> and
> https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/ChirpOnLinux
>
> Dan and I worked together to iron those out for both the Ubuntu/debian
> versions and the fedora based versions, so those instructions should work
> on almost all current linux systems using python 3.
>
> Jeff
> KI7GJG
>
> On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 6:25 PM Stuart Longland <
> stua...@longlandclan.id.au> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 20:51:30 -0500
>> Jeffrey Vian  wrote:
>>
>> > I installed python3-pip, then as my user I installed chirp-next as my
>> > regular user using pip.
>> > Will need to check my notes and verify the steps on  a new clean
>> install of
>> > Fedora 37 and Chirp-next.  (you did not note the OS you are running,
>> but I
>> > assume it is linux.)
>>
>> Actually, he did in the subject line.  The Puppy Linux site is
>> https://puppylinux-woof-ce.github.io/
>>
>> That said, it appears there's multiple "flavours" of that distribution,
>> some of which are Debian/Ubuntu based and some are Slackware based.
>> (There's a blast from the past!  Slackware would be what, 31 years old
>> now?)
>>
>> So more detail might be needed.  Off the top of my head though, I'd
>> check for:
>>
>> - wxWidgets libraries
>> - wxPython, if it's compiled, otherwise grab wxWidgets development
>>   libraries and a compiler.
>> - ensure you have `pip` installed for Python 3
>>
>> The exact commands will differ depending on the base OS being used.
>> Debian/Ubuntu derivatives, one should be able to use `apt`'s commands
>> (i.e. `apt-cache search` / `apt-get install`).  For Slackware, you'll
>> need to use Slackware's tools (`pkgtool`).
>>
>> If all of that is in place, you _should_ be able to run
>> `python3 -m pip install --user requirements.txt` to install the Python
>> module dependencies into your local user's home directory.
>>
>> Then you should be able to run Chirp with `./chirpwx.py`, or install it
>> into your home directory with `python3 setup.py install --user`.
>> --
>> Stuart Longland (aka Redhatter, VK4MSL)
>>
>> I haven't lost my mind...
>>   ...it's backed up on a tape somewhere.
>>
>

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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp On Puppy Linux

[Jeffrey Vian]

The chirp download site and the linux instructions have all been updated in
the last few days.
https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/Download
and
https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/ChirpOnLinux

Dan and I worked together to iron those out for both the Ubuntu/debian
versions and the fedora based versions, so those instructions should work
on almost all current linux systems using python 3.

Jeff
KI7GJG

On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 6:25 PM Stuart Longland 
wrote:

> On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 20:51:30 -0500
> Jeffrey Vian  wrote:
>
> > I installed python3-pip, then as my user I installed chirp-next as my
> > regular user using pip.
> > Will need to check my notes and verify the steps on  a new clean install
> of
> > Fedora 37 and Chirp-next.  (you did not note the OS you are running, but
> I
> > assume it is linux.)
>
> Actually, he did in the subject line.  The Puppy Linux site is
> https://puppylinux-woof-ce.github.io/
>
> That said, it appears there's multiple "flavours" of that distribution,
> some of which are Debian/Ubuntu based and some are Slackware based.
> (There's a blast from the past!  Slackware would be what, 31 years old
> now?)
>
> So more detail might be needed.  Off the top of my head though, I'd
> check for:
>
> - wxWidgets libraries
> - wxPython, if it's compiled, otherwise grab wxWidgets development
>   libraries and a compiler.
> - ensure you have `pip` installed for Python 3
>
> The exact commands will differ depending on the base OS being used.
> Debian/Ubuntu derivatives, one should be able to use `apt`'s commands
> (i.e. `apt-cache search` / `apt-get install`).  For Slackware, you'll
> need to use Slackware's tools (`pkgtool`).
>
> If all of that is in place, you _should_ be able to run
> `python3 -m pip install --user requirements.txt` to install the Python
> module dependencies into your local user's home directory.
>
> Then you should be able to run Chirp with `./chirpwx.py`, or install it
> into your home directory with `python3 setup.py install --user`.
> --
> Stuart Longland (aka Redhatter, VK4MSL)
>
> I haven't lost my mind...
>   ...it's backed up on a tape somewhere.
>
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp On Puppy Linux

[Stuart Longland VK4MSL via chirp_users]

On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 20:51:30 -0500
Jeffrey Vian  wrote:

> I installed python3-pip, then as my user I installed chirp-next as my
> regular user using pip.
> Will need to check my notes and verify the steps on  a new clean install of
> Fedora 37 and Chirp-next.  (you did not note the OS you are running, but I
> assume it is linux.)

Actually, he did in the subject line.  The Puppy Linux site is
https://puppylinux-woof-ce.github.io/

That said, it appears there's multiple "flavours" of that distribution,
some of which are Debian/Ubuntu based and some are Slackware based.
(There's a blast from the past!  Slackware would be what, 31 years old
now?)

So more detail might be needed.  Off the top of my head though, I'd
check for:

- wxWidgets libraries
- wxPython, if it's compiled, otherwise grab wxWidgets development
  libraries and a compiler.
- ensure you have `pip` installed for Python 3

The exact commands will differ depending on the base OS being used.
Debian/Ubuntu derivatives, one should be able to use `apt`'s commands
(i.e. `apt-cache search` / `apt-get install`).  For Slackware, you'll
need to use Slackware's tools (`pkgtool`).

If all of that is in place, you _should_ be able to run
`python3 -m pip install --user requirements.txt` to install the Python
module dependencies into your local user's home directory.

Then you should be able to run Chirp with `./chirpwx.py`, or install it
into your home directory with `python3 setup.py install --user`.
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp-Next updates?

[Jerry Rector - K4OAM]

Installed the newest version now on RaspPi3B+..all good!

Thanx Dan!

73 de Jerry K4OAM

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 9:09 PM Dan Smith via chirp_users <
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> > OK Chip, that's good to know in case I have to revert back to
> > the snap-installed version.
>
> The snap and flatpak were largely created for legacy chirp because the
> distros were removing the underlying platform that we had to use, and those
> formats provided us a way to bundle them. There are other reasons to run
> those packages, but for modern chirp-next, I really think you should
> install from source and follow our instructions here:
>
> https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/ChirpOnLinux
>
> It's validated on ubuntu and derivatives (and now Fedora, thanks to Jeff)
> so it should work for you. It's much easier to iterate on problems you have
> when starting from a known-working formula than going it alone.
>
> Also, I could be wrong, but I think the snap that Tony is publishing is
> still legacy chirp, so installing it will set you back a lot from where
> everyone else is right now.
>
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp-Next updates?

[Dan Smith via chirp_users]

> OK Chip, that's good to know in case I have to revert back to
> the snap-installed version.

The snap and flatpak were largely created for legacy chirp because the distros 
were removing the underlying platform that we had to use, and those formats 
provided us a way to bundle them. There are other reasons to run those 
packages, but for modern chirp-next, I really think you should install from 
source and follow our instructions here:

https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/ChirpOnLinux

It's validated on ubuntu and derivatives (and now Fedora, thanks to Jeff) so it 
should work for you. It's much easier to iterate on problems you have when 
starting from a known-working formula than going it alone.

Also, I could be wrong, but I think the snap that Tony is publishing is still 
legacy chirp, so installing it will set you back a lot from where everyone else 
is right now.

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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp-Next updates?

[Jerry Rector - K4OAM]

Sorry...meant "Jim", not "Chip" in the previous reply  :)  :)

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 5:03 PM Jim Unroe  wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 3:23 PM Jerry Rector - K4OAM 
> wrote:
> >
> > It seems I am stuck at version 3.17 despite running:
> >
> > sudo snap refresh chirp-snap
> >
> > I always receive the reply:
> >
> > snap "chirp-snap"  has no updates available
> >
> > What am I doing wrong?
> >
> > Jerry - K4OAM
>
> As far as I know, the CHIRP project has never provided an official
> snap-build. However, back when I was running the snap build of the
> legacy CHIRP on Linux Mint 21, I added "--channel=latest/edge" to my
> command to make sure I received the latest snap build available. YMMV
>
> sudo snap refresh chirp-snap --channel=latest/edge
>
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp-Next updates?

[Jerry Rector - K4OAM]

OK Chip, that's good to know in case I have to revert back to
the snap-installed version.
Fighting now to try to get the python-wheels setup working..

73,
Jerry

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 5:03 PM Jim Unroe  wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 3:23 PM Jerry Rector - K4OAM 
> wrote:
> >
> > It seems I am stuck at version 3.17 despite running:
> >
> > sudo snap refresh chirp-snap
> >
> > I always receive the reply:
> >
> > snap "chirp-snap"  has no updates available
> >
> > What am I doing wrong?
> >
> > Jerry - K4OAM
>
> As far as I know, the CHIRP project has never provided an official
> snap-build. However, back when I was running the snap build of the
> legacy CHIRP on Linux Mint 21, I added "--channel=latest/edge" to my
> command to make sure I received the latest snap build available. YMMV
>
> sudo snap refresh chirp-snap --channel=latest/edge
>
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp-Next updates?

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On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 3:23 PM Jerry Rector - K4OAM  wrote:
>
> It seems I am stuck at version 3.17 despite running:
>
> sudo snap refresh chirp-snap
>
> I always receive the reply:
>
> snap "chirp-snap"  has no updates available
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Jerry - K4OAM

As far as I know, the CHIRP project has never provided an official
snap-build. However, back when I was running the snap build of the
legacy CHIRP on Linux Mint 21, I added "--channel=latest/edge" to my
command to make sure I received the latest snap build available. YMMV

sudo snap refresh chirp-snap --channel=latest/edge

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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp-Snap updates on Raspberry Pi?

[Jerry Rector - K4OAM]

OK Nigel...thanks much!
Heading there now.

73,
Jerry

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 4:39 PM Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF 
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> Wheels are installed using pip.
> Details of installing pip here:
> https://www.tecmint.com/install-pip-in-linux/
>
>
> > On 22/03/2023 19:22 GMT Jerry Rector - K4OAM  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks Nigel - where do I find a wheels procedure?
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 4:20 PM Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <
> ni...@ngunn.net> wrote:
> > > Snaps are no longer being offered. Either switch to wheels or compile
> from source.
> > >
> > >  > On 22/03/2023 19:11 GMT Jerry Rector - K4OAM 
> wrote:
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > It seems I am stuck at version 3.17 despite running:
> > >  >
> > >  > sudo snap refresh chirp-snap
> > >  >
> > >  > I always receive the reply:
> > >  >
> > >  > snap "chirp-snap" has no updates available
> > >  >
> > >  > What am I doing wrong?
> > >  >
> > >  > Jerry - K4OAM
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp-Snap updates on Raspberry Pi?

[Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF]

Wheels are installed using pip.
Details of installing pip here:  https://www.tecmint.com/install-pip-in-linux/


> On 22/03/2023 19:22 GMT Jerry Rector - K4OAM  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks Nigel - where do I find a wheels procedure?
> 
> Jerry
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 4:20 PM Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF  
> wrote:
> > Snaps are no longer being offered. Either switch to wheels or compile from 
> > source.
> >  
> >  > On 22/03/2023 19:11 GMT Jerry Rector - K4OAM  wrote:
> >  > 
> >  > 
> >  > It seems I am stuck at version 3.17 despite running:
> >  > 
> >  > sudo snap refresh chirp-snap
> >  > 
> >  > I always receive the reply:
> >  > 
> >  > snap "chirp-snap" has no updates available
> >  > 
> >  > What am I doing wrong?
> >  > 
> >  > Jerry - K4OAM
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp-Snap updates on Raspberry Pi?

[Jerry Rector - K4OAM]

Thanks Nigel - where do I find a wheels procedure?

Jerry

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 4:20 PM Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF 
wrote:

> Snaps are no longer being offered. Either switch to wheels or compile from
> source.
>
> > On 22/03/2023 19:11 GMT Jerry Rector - K4OAM  wrote:
> >
> >
> > It seems I am stuck at version 3.17 despite running:
> >
> > sudo snap refresh chirp-snap
> >
> > I always receive the reply:
> >
> > snap "chirp-snap" has no updates available
> >
> > What am I doing wrong?
> >
> > Jerry - K4OAM
> >
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Re: [chirp_users] Chirp-Snap updates on Raspberry Pi?

[Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF]

Snaps are no longer being offered. Either switch to wheels or compile from 
source.

> On 22/03/2023 19:11 GMT Jerry Rector - K4OAM  wrote:
> 
> 
> It seems I am stuck at version 3.17 despite running:
> 
> sudo snap refresh chirp-snap
> 
> I always receive the reply:
> 
> snap "chirp-snap" has no updates available
> 
> What am I doing wrong?
> 
> Jerry - K4OAM
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