[chromium-dev] Re: Subversion tags for stable/beta/dev?

2009-08-08 Thread Aaron Boodman

We can put a cache in front of it if needed. Actually I'd like to put
something dumb and simple in front of it anyway, so we could have
shorter URLs that aren't tied to viewvc.

But I think having the docs be checked in and not having a separate
deploy step is worth some extra complexity on the frontend. In Gears
the docs being out of date, or out of sync with the various versions
was an annoying problem.

- a

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Darin Fisherda...@chromium.org wrote:
 This is pretty cool, but my experience with ViewVC is that it is kind of
 slow.  Do we know if it can handle the additional load this will generate?
 -Darin

 On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Aaron Boodman a...@chromium.org wrote:

 Hi all,

 I was wondering if the release managers could add a tag in Subversion
 for each of the stable, beta, and dev release channels. I want a
 ViewVC URL that I can give people that will always refer to the
 version of the code that is on stable (or whatever) at that moment.

 The reason I want to do this is because the extensions possee is
 checking our docs into source control, so that they can be viewed live
 from viewvc. They're still in progress, but you can see them starting
 to come together here:

 http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/src/chrome/common/extensions/docs/index.html

 The cool thing about this approach is that when we branch releases,
 the docs from trunk will be branched too. So the docs for a certain
 release area always with the code for that release.

 If we had the aforementioned tags, the canonical URL for, eg, the
 stable extension docs could just be:


 http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/branches/stable/src/chrome/common/extensions/docs/index.html

 - a

 



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[chromium-dev] Re: Subversion tags for stable/beta/dev?

2009-08-08 Thread Darin Fisher
I totally agree.  Reducing the cost of maintaining docs is very nice indeed
;-)-Darin

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Aaron Boodman a...@chromium.org wrote:

 We can put a cache in front of it if needed. Actually I'd like to put
 something dumb and simple in front of it anyway, so we could have
 shorter URLs that aren't tied to viewvc.

 But I think having the docs be checked in and not having a separate
 deploy step is worth some extra complexity on the frontend. In Gears
 the docs being out of date, or out of sync with the various versions
 was an annoying problem.

 - a

 On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Darin Fisherda...@chromium.org wrote:
  This is pretty cool, but my experience with ViewVC is that it is kind of
  slow.  Do we know if it can handle the additional load this will
 generate?
  -Darin
 
  On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Aaron Boodman a...@chromium.org wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  I was wondering if the release managers could add a tag in Subversion
  for each of the stable, beta, and dev release channels. I want a
  ViewVC URL that I can give people that will always refer to the
  version of the code that is on stable (or whatever) at that moment.
 
  The reason I want to do this is because the extensions possee is
  checking our docs into source control, so that they can be viewed live
  from viewvc. They're still in progress, but you can see them starting
  to come together here:
 
 
 http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/src/chrome/common/extensions/docs/index.html
 
  The cool thing about this approach is that when we branch releases,
  the docs from trunk will be branched too. So the docs for a certain
  release area always with the code for that release.
 
  If we had the aforementioned tags, the canonical URL for, eg, the
  stable extension docs could just be:
 
 
 
 http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/branches/stable/src/chrome/common/extensions/docs/index.html
 
  - a
 
   
 
 


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[chromium-dev] Re: Subversion tags for stable/beta/dev?

2009-08-08 Thread Aaron Boodman

Ok, sorry I got defensive. Short answer is we don't know if it can
handle the load. I will add a bug to myself to investigate.

Do you have any opinion on adding the tags? I guess the cost would be
that when we do new releases the release manager would have to update
the tag.

- a

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Darin Fisherda...@chromium.org wrote:
 I totally agree.  Reducing the cost of maintaining docs is very nice indeed
 ;-)
 -Darin

 On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Aaron Boodman a...@chromium.org wrote:

 We can put a cache in front of it if needed. Actually I'd like to put
 something dumb and simple in front of it anyway, so we could have
 shorter URLs that aren't tied to viewvc.

 But I think having the docs be checked in and not having a separate
 deploy step is worth some extra complexity on the frontend. In Gears
 the docs being out of date, or out of sync with the various versions
 was an annoying problem.

 - a

 On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Darin Fisherda...@chromium.org wrote:
  This is pretty cool, but my experience with ViewVC is that it is kind of
  slow.  Do we know if it can handle the additional load this will
  generate?
  -Darin
 
  On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Aaron Boodman a...@chromium.org wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  I was wondering if the release managers could add a tag in Subversion
  for each of the stable, beta, and dev release channels. I want a
  ViewVC URL that I can give people that will always refer to the
  version of the code that is on stable (or whatever) at that moment.
 
  The reason I want to do this is because the extensions possee is
  checking our docs into source control, so that they can be viewed live
  from viewvc. They're still in progress, but you can see them starting
  to come together here:
 
 
  http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/src/chrome/common/extensions/docs/index.html
 
  The cool thing about this approach is that when we branch releases,
  the docs from trunk will be branched too. So the docs for a certain
  release area always with the code for that release.
 
  If we had the aforementioned tags, the canonical URL for, eg, the
  stable extension docs could just be:
 
 
 
  http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/branches/stable/src/chrome/common/extensions/docs/index.html
 
  - a
 
   
 
 



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[chromium-dev] [chromium-discuss] Re: getting latest stable Chromium

2009-08-08 Thread PhistucK
What do you think?(
http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-discuss/t/237a00336673684)

☆PhistucK


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From: PhistucK phist...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 07:48
Subject: Re: [chromium-discuss] Re: getting latest stable Chromium
To: alexandr...@yahoo.com
Cc: Chromium-discuss chromium-disc...@googlegroups.com


No, he means there should be a snapshot for the Beta\Stable branches as
well.I agree it can be useful, maybe a Chromium snapshot for each released
version, what do you say, Chromium engineers?

☆PhistucK



On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 04:39, alexandrojv alexandr...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Well chromium is not in stable, or in beta, or any of that, it's in
 Alpha, are you saying to download all the three versions at the same
 time? if so then the best thing to do is to install the portable
 version of Chrome, for every channel, although it will not update,
 when ever the nonportable version would, but you can download them at
 http://portableappz.blogspot.com/search?q=chrome when ever there is an
 update on either channel the portable version gets posted again, so
 you would have to reinstall over and over, but it works.

 On Aug 5, 3:02 pm, krtulmay krtul...@gmail.com wrote:
  alexandrojv, downloading from snapshots is exactly the problem!
 
  The poster wants a Chromium as stable as Beta or Stable Chrome.
  Neither the snapshots nor continuous versions meet that criteria!
 
  On Aug 5, 12:21 pm, alexandrojv alexandr...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 
 
   Just go tohttp://
 build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-xp/
   and download the latest one, according tohttp://
 build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-xp/LATEST
 
   On Aug 5, 8:31 am, yurkennis yurken...@gmail.com wrote:
 
How can I download Chromium (not Google Chrome) which is as stable as
the latest Beta / Stable Google Chrome?
 
I use Google Chrome and Chromium at the same time (the former with
addons disabled, the latter with them enabled, due tohttp://
 code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=11063), and it is
always quite complicated to find a right build of Chromium.
 
Regards.
 


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[chromium-dev] Re: Subversion tags for stable/beta/dev?

2009-08-08 Thread Darin Fisher
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Aaron Boodman a...@chromium.org wrote:

 Ok, sorry I got defensive. Short answer is we don't know if it can
 handle the load. I will add a bug to myself to investigate.


Oh, I didn't think you were overly defensive...



 Do you have any opinion on adding the tags? I guess the cost would be
 that when we do new releases the release manager would have to update
 the tag.


It sounds like a reasonable request to me.

-Darin





 - a

 On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Darin Fisherda...@chromium.org wrote:
  I totally agree.  Reducing the cost of maintaining docs is very nice
 indeed
  ;-)
  -Darin
 
  On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Aaron Boodman a...@chromium.org wrote:
 
  We can put a cache in front of it if needed. Actually I'd like to put
  something dumb and simple in front of it anyway, so we could have
  shorter URLs that aren't tied to viewvc.
 
  But I think having the docs be checked in and not having a separate
  deploy step is worth some extra complexity on the frontend. In Gears
  the docs being out of date, or out of sync with the various versions
  was an annoying problem.
 
  - a
 
  On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Darin Fisherda...@chromium.org wrote:
   This is pretty cool, but my experience with ViewVC is that it is kind
 of
   slow.  Do we know if it can handle the additional load this will
   generate?
   -Darin
  
   On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Aaron Boodman a...@chromium.org
 wrote:
  
   Hi all,
  
   I was wondering if the release managers could add a tag in Subversion
   for each of the stable, beta, and dev release channels. I want a
   ViewVC URL that I can give people that will always refer to the
   version of the code that is on stable (or whatever) at that moment.
  
   The reason I want to do this is because the extensions possee is
   checking our docs into source control, so that they can be viewed
 live
   from viewvc. They're still in progress, but you can see them starting
   to come together here:
  
  
  
 http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/src/chrome/common/extensions/docs/index.html
  
   The cool thing about this approach is that when we branch releases,
   the docs from trunk will be branched too. So the docs for a certain
   release area always with the code for that release.
  
   If we had the aforementioned tags, the canonical URL for, eg, the
   stable extension docs could just be:
  
  
  
  
 http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/branches/stable/src/chrome/common/extensions/docs/index.html
  
   - a
  
 
  
  
 
 


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[chromium-dev] Re: [chromium-discuss] Re: getting latest stable Chromium

2009-08-08 Thread Adam Barth

If you want to build Chromium from the same source as the stable build
of Google Chrome, you can build from this branch:

http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/branches/172/src/

We would all love there to be a beta / stable version of Chromium for
Linux.  I believe we have a team of people trying to make that a
reality.  :)

Adam


On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 12:11 AM, PhistucKphist...@chromium.org wrote:
 What do you think?
 (http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-discuss/t/237a00336673684)
 ☆PhistucK


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: PhistucK phist...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 07:48
 Subject: Re: [chromium-discuss] Re: getting latest stable Chromium
 To: alexandr...@yahoo.com
 Cc: Chromium-discuss chromium-disc...@googlegroups.com


 No, he means there should be a snapshot for the Beta\Stable branches as
 well.
 I agree it can be useful, maybe a Chromium snapshot for each released
 version, what do you say, Chromium engineers?

 ☆PhistucK


 On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 04:39, alexandrojv alexandr...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Well chromium is not in stable, or in beta, or any of that, it's in
 Alpha, are you saying to download all the three versions at the same
 time? if so then the best thing to do is to install the portable
 version of Chrome, for every channel, although it will not update,
 when ever the nonportable version would, but you can download them at
 http://portableappz.blogspot.com/search?q=chrome when ever there is an
 update on either channel the portable version gets posted again, so
 you would have to reinstall over and over, but it works.

 On Aug 5, 3:02 pm, krtulmay krtul...@gmail.com wrote:
  alexandrojv, downloading from snapshots is exactly the problem!
 
  The poster wants a Chromium as stable as Beta or Stable Chrome.
  Neither the snapshots nor continuous versions meet that criteria!
 
  On Aug 5, 12:21 pm, alexandrojv alexandr...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 
 
   Just go
   tohttp://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-xp/
   and download the latest one, according
   tohttp://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-xp/LATEST
 
   On Aug 5, 8:31 am, yurkennis yurken...@gmail.com wrote:
 
How can I download Chromium (not Google Chrome) which is as stable
as
the latest Beta / Stable Google Chrome?
 
I use Google Chrome and Chromium at the same time (the former with
addons disabled, the latter with them enabled, due
tohttp://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=11063), and it is
always quite complicated to find a right build of Chromium.
 
Regards.




 


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[chromium-dev] Re: [chromium-discuss] Re: getting latest stable Chromium

2009-08-08 Thread PhistucK
I know you can build it by yourself, the suggestion\request here is to have
a Chromium snapshot of each branch when it is released (an archive with
older releases is welcome, too, but not a must have).Will you consider that?

☆PhistucK


On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 10:28, Adam Barth aba...@chromium.org wrote:

 If you want to build Chromium from the same source as the stable build
 of Google Chrome, you can build from this branch:

 http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/branches/172/src/

 We would all love there to be a beta / stable version of Chromium for
 Linux.  I believe we have a team of people trying to make that a
 reality.  :)

 Adam


 On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 12:11 AM, PhistucKphist...@chromium.org wrote:
  What do you think?
  (http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-discuss/t/237a00336673684)
  ☆PhistucK
 
 
  -- Forwarded message --
  From: PhistucK phist...@gmail.com
  Date: Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 07:48
  Subject: Re: [chromium-discuss] Re: getting latest stable Chromium
  To: alexandr...@yahoo.com
  Cc: Chromium-discuss chromium-disc...@googlegroups.com
 
 
  No, he means there should be a snapshot for the Beta\Stable branches as
  well.
  I agree it can be useful, maybe a Chromium snapshot for each released
  version, what do you say, Chromium engineers?
 
  ☆PhistucK
 
 
  On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 04:39, alexandrojv alexandr...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Well chromium is not in stable, or in beta, or any of that, it's in
  Alpha, are you saying to download all the three versions at the same
  time? if so then the best thing to do is to install the portable
  version of Chrome, for every channel, although it will not update,
  when ever the nonportable version would, but you can download them at
  http://portableappz.blogspot.com/search?q=chrome when ever there is an
  update on either channel the portable version gets posted again, so
  you would have to reinstall over and over, but it works.
 
  On Aug 5, 3:02 pm, krtulmay krtul...@gmail.com wrote:
   alexandrojv, downloading from snapshots is exactly the problem!
  
   The poster wants a Chromium as stable as Beta or Stable Chrome.
   Neither the snapshots nor continuous versions meet that criteria!
  
   On Aug 5, 12:21 pm, alexandrojv alexandr...@yahoo.com wrote:
  
  
  
Just go
tohttp://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-xp/
and download the latest one, according
tohttp://
 build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-xp/LATEST
  
On Aug 5, 8:31 am, yurkennis yurken...@gmail.com wrote:
  
 How can I download Chromium (not Google Chrome) which is as stable
 as
 the latest Beta / Stable Google Chrome?
  
 I use Google Chrome and Chromium at the same time (the former with
 addons disabled, the latter with them enabled, due
 tohttp://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=11063), and
 it is
 always quite complicated to find a right build of Chromium.
  
 Regards.
 
 
 
 
   
 


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[chromium-dev] Re: Urgent, a very evil site i think which does evil things (no joke)

2009-08-08 Thread PhistucK
Sorry to disturb here, at the end of the line, but - are you not going to
tackle this issue?
☆PhistucK

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[chromium-dev] Re: Stack traces on layout test crashes

2009-08-08 Thread Dimitri Glazkov

Somebody please run with this! :)

:DG

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Darin Fisherda...@chromium.org wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Ojan Vafai o...@chromium.org wrote:

 On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org wrote:

 Has anyone ever looked into printing out stack traces when layout tests
 crash?  Of the couple layout test crashes I've investigated, I think most
 could have been solved just by having a stack trace.  I'm not really sure
 what's involved or if anyone's looked into this, which is why I'm asking.
  This could be especially helpful for flaky tests that crash.

 I don't remember anyone having looked into this. I agree that this would
 make tracking down and fixing these issues immensely easier, especially for
 tests that only sometimes crash.
 Ojan

 I've wanted this for a very long time.  I think there might be a bug on it.
  At any rate, we now have a nice utility in base/debug_util.h that can
 provide a stack trace.  I would love to see crash stacks on the buildbot.
  It would probably help us eliminate a lot of flakiness!
 -Darin
 


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[chromium-dev] Re: [chromium-discuss] Re: getting latest stable Chromium

2009-08-08 Thread Adam Barth

Yeah, you should feel free to do that.  I'm not sure what the
advantage of doing that would be.  The Chromium builds don't
auto-update, so they quickly become out of date.

The original poster wanted to run a build of Chromium from the stable
branch with extensions enabled, but that's not possible because the
extension system doesn't exist in the 172 branch.  A better way to
address this use case is to use the --user-data-dir option to run
multiple independent copies Google Chrome with different preferences /
history / etc.

Adam


On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:25 AM, PhistucKphist...@gmail.com wrote:
 I know you can build it by yourself, the suggestion\request here is to have
 a Chromium snapshot of each branch when it is released (an archive with
 older releases is welcome, too, but not a must have).
 Will you consider that?
 ☆PhistucK


 On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 10:28, Adam Barth aba...@chromium.org wrote:

 If you want to build Chromium from the same source as the stable build
 of Google Chrome, you can build from this branch:

 http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/branches/172/src/

 We would all love there to be a beta / stable version of Chromium for
 Linux.  I believe we have a team of people trying to make that a
 reality.  :)

 Adam


 On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 12:11 AM, PhistucKphist...@chromium.org wrote:
  What do you think?
  (http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-discuss/t/237a00336673684)
  ☆PhistucK
 
 
  -- Forwarded message --
  From: PhistucK phist...@gmail.com
  Date: Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 07:48
  Subject: Re: [chromium-discuss] Re: getting latest stable Chromium
  To: alexandr...@yahoo.com
  Cc: Chromium-discuss chromium-disc...@googlegroups.com
 
 
  No, he means there should be a snapshot for the Beta\Stable branches as
  well.
  I agree it can be useful, maybe a Chromium snapshot for each released
  version, what do you say, Chromium engineers?
 
  ☆PhistucK
 
 
  On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 04:39, alexandrojv alexandr...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Well chromium is not in stable, or in beta, or any of that, it's in
  Alpha, are you saying to download all the three versions at the same
  time? if so then the best thing to do is to install the portable
  version of Chrome, for every channel, although it will not update,
  when ever the nonportable version would, but you can download them at
  http://portableappz.blogspot.com/search?q=chrome when ever there is an
  update on either channel the portable version gets posted again, so
  you would have to reinstall over and over, but it works.
 
  On Aug 5, 3:02 pm, krtulmay krtul...@gmail.com wrote:
   alexandrojv, downloading from snapshots is exactly the problem!
  
   The poster wants a Chromium as stable as Beta or Stable Chrome.
   Neither the snapshots nor continuous versions meet that criteria!
  
   On Aug 5, 12:21 pm, alexandrojv alexandr...@yahoo.com wrote:
  
  
  
Just go
tohttp://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-xp/
and download the latest one, according
   
tohttp://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-xp/LATEST
  
On Aug 5, 8:31 am, yurkennis yurken...@gmail.com wrote:
  
 How can I download Chromium (not Google Chrome) which is as
 stable
 as
 the latest Beta / Stable Google Chrome?
  
 I use Google Chrome and Chromium at the same time (the former
 with
 addons disabled, the latter with them enabled, due
 tohttp://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=11063), and
 it is
 always quite complicated to find a right build of Chromium.
  
 Regards.
 
 
 
 
   
 



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[chromium-dev] Re: [chromium-discuss] Re: getting latest stable Chromium

2009-08-08 Thread Ben Goodger (Google)

On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Adam Barthaba...@chromium.org wrote:

 Yeah, you should feel free to do that.  I'm not sure what the
 advantage of doing that would be.  The Chromium builds don't
 auto-update, so they quickly become out of date.

The risk is non-technical people perceiving stable builds as Chromium
being a consumer product - it isn't, its an open source project that
products like Google Chrome are built on. So yeah, I would be hesitant
for us to produce official stable builds that can't update. That
shouldn't stop anyone else from doing so.

-Ben

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[chromium-dev] Re: [chromium-discuss] Re: getting latest stable Chromium

2009-08-08 Thread PhistucK
But this is not official, just like the timely snapshots of Chromium during
the day.They are known to be unstable and, most importantly, not official.
Why can a Chromium build, simply based on the stable branch, not be
automatically built?
I mean, what hesitation is there?
Also, the resources to make that possible are really minimal, that is for
sure (right?). But I understand this is not the consideration here.

☆PhistucK


On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 19:27, Ben Goodger (Google) b...@chromium.org wrote:

 On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Adam Barthaba...@chromium.org wrote:
 
  Yeah, you should feel free to do that.  I'm not sure what the
  advantage of doing that would be.  The Chromium builds don't
  auto-update, so they quickly become out of date.

 The risk is non-technical people perceiving stable builds as Chromium
 being a consumer product - it isn't, its an open source project that
 products like Google Chrome are built on. So yeah, I would be hesitant
 for us to produce official stable builds that can't update. That
 shouldn't stop anyone else from doing so.

 -Ben


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[chromium-dev] Font used in groups.google.com in Chromium on MacOSX

2009-08-08 Thread n179911

Hi,

I am using the latest Chromium on MacOSX.
When I go to groups.google.com, the font in the message text is always
smaller (hard to read) than the font I see on Safari/Firefox on the
same site. For example:
http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev/browse_thread/thread/1d336154b14dfcd9

I have inspected element for the message text. I use 'font-family'
Courier, Monospaced and the font-size is 100%.

Can you please tell me how does Chromium determine what is the actual
font size (in points) to render those message text?

Thank you.

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[chromium-dev] Re: Font used in groups.google.com in Chromium on MacOSX

2009-08-08 Thread Adam Barth

I believe Eric Seidel just fixed this bug.  He can tell you more.

Adam


On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 10:03 AM, n179911n179...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I am using the latest Chromium on MacOSX.
 When I go to groups.google.com, the font in the message text is always
 smaller (hard to read) than the font I see on Safari/Firefox on the
 same site. For example:
 http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev/browse_thread/thread/1d336154b14dfcd9

 I have inspected element for the message text. I use 'font-family'
 Courier, Monospaced and the font-size is 100%.

 Can you please tell me how does Chromium determine what is the actual
 font size (in points) to render those message text?

 Thank you.

 


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[chromium-dev] Re: Font used in groups.google.com in Chromium on MacOSX

2009-08-08 Thread Nico Weber

https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19161 I believe.

On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Adam Barthaba...@chromium.org wrote:

 I believe Eric Seidel just fixed this bug.  He can tell you more.

 Adam


 On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 10:03 AM, n179911n179...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I am using the latest Chromium on MacOSX.
 When I go to groups.google.com, the font in the message text is always
 smaller (hard to read) than the font I see on Safari/Firefox on the
 same site. For example:
 http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev/browse_thread/thread/1d336154b14dfcd9

 I have inspected element for the message text. I use 'font-family'
 Courier, Monospaced and the font-size is 100%.

 Can you please tell me how does Chromium determine what is the actual
 font size (in points) to render those message text?

 Thank you.

 


 


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[chromium-dev] Re: [chromium-discuss] Re: getting latest stable Chromium

2009-08-08 Thread Adam Barth

On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:53 AM, PhistucKphist...@gmail.com wrote:
 But this is not official, just like the timely snapshots of Chromium during
 the day.
 They are known to be unstable and, most importantly, not official.
 Why can a Chromium build, simply based on the stable branch, not be
 automatically built? I mean, what hesitation is there?

It could be.  It's a matter of the weighing the costs in terms of user
confusing against the benefits, which have not been articulated.

 Also, the resources to make that possible are really minimal, that is for
 sure (right?). But I understand this is not the consideration here.

One of the great things about open source is that if this scratches an
itch for you, you can build the binaries yourself and post them on
your own web site.

Adam

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[chromium-dev] Re: Stack traces on layout test crashes

2009-08-08 Thread Jeremy Orlow
I'll take a look.
If anyone has ideas on how to implement this (beyond looking at
base/debug_util.h) please let me know! The last time I messed around with
programatic stack traces was 5+ years ago. :-)

On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 7:53 AM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@chromium.orgwrote:

 Somebody please run with this! :)

 :DG

 On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Darin Fisherda...@chromium.org wrote:
  On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Ojan Vafai o...@chromium.org wrote:
 
  On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org
 wrote:
 
  Has anyone ever looked into printing out stack traces when layout tests
  crash?  Of the couple layout test crashes I've investigated, I think
 most
  could have been solved just by having a stack trace.  I'm not really
 sure
  what's involved or if anyone's looked into this, which is why I'm
 asking.
   This could be especially helpful for flaky tests that crash.
 
  I don't remember anyone having looked into this. I agree that this would
  make tracking down and fixing these issues immensely easier, especially
 for
  tests that only sometimes crash.
  Ojan
 
  I've wanted this for a very long time.  I think there might be a bug on
 it.
   At any rate, we now have a nice utility in base/debug_util.h that can
  provide a stack trace.  I would love to see crash stacks on the buildbot.
   It would probably help us eliminate a lot of flakiness!
  -Darin
   
 


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[chromium-dev] Re: Font used in groups.google.com in Chromium on MacOSX

2009-08-08 Thread Eric Seidel
The fix is awaiting review:https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19161

On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Adam Barth aba...@chromium.org wrote:


 I believe Eric Seidel just fixed this bug.  He can tell you more.

 Adam


 On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 10:03 AM, n179911n179...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I am using the latest Chromium on MacOSX.
  When I go to groups.google.com, the font in the message text is always
  smaller (hard to read) than the font I see on Safari/Firefox on the
  same site. For example:
 
 http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev/browse_thread/thread/1d336154b14dfcd9
 
  I have inspected element for the message text. I use 'font-family'
  Courier, Monospaced and the font-size is 100%.
 
  Can you please tell me how does Chromium determine what is the actual
  font size (in points) to render those message text?
 
  Thank you.
 
  
 

 


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[chromium-dev] Re: Stack traces on layout test crashes

2009-08-08 Thread 王重傑
FYI, the code in debug_util.h will generate a stack trace, but symbol
resolution doesn't work on mac.  Last I messed with it (~4 months ago), mac
didn't work because most of the symbols are private.  Mark Mentovai
suggested trying to reimplement dladdr, but I could never get it working.
Here's the uploaded code if anyone to mess with it:

   http://codereview.chromium.org/164228

On windows and linux, assuming you actually have symbols generated (which I
don't think you do for windows on the build bots), getting a trace should be
as simple as creating one of those StackTrace objects in debug_util.h, and
calling PrintBacktrace or OutputToStream on it.  The hard part is knowing
when to create the object, and making sure you're on the right thread.
Also, these functions do some heap allocations so using them in a crash
handler might be a bit unsafe...but if it's crashing, and there's already no
way to get a core or something, making it crash harder isn't going to
matter.

-Albert


On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org wrote:

 I'll take a look.
 If anyone has ideas on how to implement this (beyond looking at
 base/debug_util.h) please let me know! The last time I messed around with
 programatic stack traces was 5+ years ago. :-)


 On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 7:53 AM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@chromium.orgwrote:

 Somebody please run with this! :)

 :DG

 On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Darin Fisherda...@chromium.org wrote:
  On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Ojan Vafai o...@chromium.org wrote:
 
  On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org
 wrote:
 
  Has anyone ever looked into printing out stack traces when layout
 tests
  crash?  Of the couple layout test crashes I've investigated, I think
 most
  could have been solved just by having a stack trace.  I'm not really
 sure
  what's involved or if anyone's looked into this, which is why I'm
 asking.
   This could be especially helpful for flaky tests that crash.
 
  I don't remember anyone having looked into this. I agree that this
 would
  make tracking down and fixing these issues immensely easier, especially
 for
  tests that only sometimes crash.
  Ojan
 
  I've wanted this for a very long time.  I think there might be a bug on
 it.
   At any rate, we now have a nice utility in base/debug_util.h that can
  provide a stack trace.  I would love to see crash stacks on the
 buildbot.
   It would probably help us eliminate a lot of flakiness!
  -Darin
  
 



 


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[chromium-dev] Re: [chromium-discuss] Re: getting latest stable Chromium

2009-08-08 Thread PhistucK
Yeah, obviously, if you have the resources.And I am suggesting and
requesting that, merely for testing purposes. This could help people test
the binary up front without having to install, for example.
Web developers can use it as well as the community.

This will be a handy thing, anyway. Is there someone specific this should be
articulated to?

☆PhistucK


On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 20:36, Adam Barth aba...@chromium.org wrote:

 On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:53 AM, PhistucKphist...@gmail.com wrote:
  But this is not official, just like the timely snapshots of Chromium
 during
  the day.
  They are known to be unstable and, most importantly, not official.
  Why can a Chromium build, simply based on the stable branch, not be
  automatically built? I mean, what hesitation is there?

 It could be.  It's a matter of the weighing the costs in terms of user
 confusing against the benefits, which have not been articulated.

  Also, the resources to make that possible are really minimal, that is for
  sure (right?). But I understand this is not the consideration here.

 One of the great things about open source is that if this scratches an
 itch for you, you can build the binaries yourself and post them on
 your own web site.

 Adam


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[chromium-dev] Re: [chromium-discuss] Re: getting latest stable Chromium

2009-08-08 Thread Adam Barth

On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 12:14 PM, PhistucKphist...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yeah, obviously, if you have the resources.
 And I am suggesting and requesting that, merely for testing purposes. This
 could help people test the binary up front without having to install, for
 example.
 Web developers can use it as well as the community.
 This will be a handy thing, anyway. Is there someone specific this should be
 articulated to?

I feel like I'm repeating myself.  If you would find this useful, go
for it.  It will probably cost you about $10/month:

http://www.1and1.com/
http://www.dreamhost.com/

If it's not worth $10/month to you, it's probably not worthwhile.

Adam

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[chromium-dev] Re: Font used in groups.google.com in Chromium on MacOSX

2009-08-08 Thread Evan Martin

Eric pretty much wins my vote for man of the year.

On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Eric Seidelesei...@chromium.org wrote:
 The fix is awaiting review:
 https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19161

 On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Adam Barth aba...@chromium.org wrote:

 I believe Eric Seidel just fixed this bug.  He can tell you more.

 Adam


 On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 10:03 AM, n179911n179...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I am using the latest Chromium on MacOSX.
  When I go to groups.google.com, the font in the message text is always
  smaller (hard to read) than the font I see on Safari/Firefox on the
  same site. For example:
 
  http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev/browse_thread/thread/1d336154b14dfcd9
 
  I have inspected element for the message text. I use 'font-family'
  Courier, Monospaced and the font-size is 100%.
 
  Can you please tell me how does Chromium determine what is the actual
  font size (in points) to render those message text?
 
  Thank you.
 
  
 




 


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