Re: [chromium-dev] Question about GraphicsContext clipOut() function

2010-01-11 Thread Pierre-Antoine LaFayette
The clipOut function works like a normal clip() except, instead of clipping
against the rect/path parameter, it removes the rect/path from the current
drawing, i.e. clips it out.

2010/1/11 hap 497 hap...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 Can you please help me understand clipOut() function supposed to do?
 My understanding is GraphicsContext::clip() function is setting the
 clipping rectangle of the graphics context, only operations within the
 clipping rectangle will be shown.  But what is the purpose of
 clipOut() function?

 Thanks in advance for any help.

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Re: [chromium-dev] displaying unparseable ftp directory listings as-is

2010-01-11 Thread Pierre-Antoine LaFayette
I am looking into an issue involving adding icons for to the ftp directory
listing page, can you point me to where this code is handled? I know that
the HTML template is generated in
ftp_directory_listing_response_delegate.cc. I'm trying to see if its okay to
request icon data from the Browser from within the WebKit glue layer.

Thanks.

2010/1/11 Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@chromium.org

 Is there any security risks with passing raw ftp listings to the
 renderer in case we can't parse them? We already have a check in the
 code so that we will only make a data connection to the server we have
 the control connection with.

 If it's ok to do so, I'd also like to include some message encouraging
 the user to submit a bug report like hey, Chrome FTP listing parser
 is not compatible with this site. That would really help with
 compatibility. The new listing parser is doing quite well, but I think
 it's still not compatible enough to entirely replace the Mozilla code.

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Re: [chromium-dev] Can we use a DOM ui page for ftp:/// and file:/// directory listings?

2010-01-10 Thread Pierre-Antoine LaFayette
Is it illegal for the WebKit glue layer to send synchronous messages to the
browser requesting the icon data URI?

2010/1/7 Darin Fisher da...@chromium.org

 It could... but, I though the conclusion was to avoid DOM UI for file://
 and ftp:// directory listings (for other reasons).  In that case, we
 should be able to continue using the same UI.  I think there is just the
 open question of how to provide icon resources to the page.

 -Darin


 On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 4:11 AM, Dean McNamee de...@chromium.org wrote:

 Yeah, so my question was, does that mean test_shell would have a
 separate mechanism (the current one?) for file:/// listings?

 On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Darin Fisher da...@chromium.org wrote:
  DOM UI implies chrome://, which is implemented by the
 ChromeURLDataManager
  (in browser/dom_ui/).  TestShell wouldn't be able to use that.
  -Darin
 
  On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Dean McNamee de...@chromium.org
 wrote:
 
  I am pretty out of things these days, but will a DOM UI file://
  listing work for test_shell?
 
  On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Darin Fisher da...@chromium.org
 wrote:
   Right, that's the tricky part.  You'd need to do something creative.
   -Darin
  
   On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Pierre-Antoine LaFayette
   pierre.lafaye...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   Okay. Yes we could use data URI, but where do we retrieve the icon
   resources from at that level?
  
   2010/1/6 Darin Fisher da...@chromium.org
  
   We can also use data: URLs to inject the icons into the HTML file
 used
   to
   render the directory listings.  We can do that at the time when the
   HTML
   file is generated.
   -Darin
  
  
   On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Evan Martin e...@chromium.org
 wrote:
  
   I talked with Arv in person and I think I sufficiently convinced
 him
   that getting DOMUI security right is tricky.  (Consider: XSSes in
 the
   FTP display code, and that ftp sites containing HTML pages must
 not
   have privs when displaying the HTML.)  That may still mean that
 DOMUI
   is ok, but I would prefer to consider any other option available.
  
   One idea is to say we don't care if any old page can img
   src='chrome://os-style-icon/foobar.psd' to get a Photoshop icon.
   Not sure.
  
   On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Erik Arvidsson a...@chromium.org
   wrote:
I think it should be OK to move these to DOMUI. NTP can also
 link
to
local HTML files and we already mark the chrome protocol in such
 a
way
that it cannot be accessed by any other scheme.
   
erik
   
   
   
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 15:19, Pierre-Antoine LaFayette
pierre.lafaye...@gmail.com wrote:
That's why I wanted to check before starting any work. So the
question is
now whether it we'd rather use a DOM UI page or create a
 similar
API
that
would be used solely by file:// and ftp://. What is needed for
http://crbug.com/24421 is simply access to the favicon data
 for
file
types.
I'm not sure if these are available through WebCore or not. The
drag
and
drop functionality required by http://crbug.com/27772 seems
 like
it
would be
a lot of work without using a DOM UI page.
Any opinions on this part of my original post?:
Is there any reason why ChromiumOS' chrome://filebrowse DOM ui
page
couldn't
be generalized to
be used for these other directory listing pages?
It just seems to me that it would be rather redundant handle 3
separate
instances of a file browse HTML page (ftp://, file:// and
chrome://filebrowse) in 3 separate ways.
Thanks.
2010/1/5 Evan Martin e...@chromium.org
   
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Glen Murphy 
 g...@chromium.org
wrote:
 I don't think anyone has any objection to DOMUIifying those
 pages,
 and
 I don't think it would be a large amount of work. The only
 reason
 they're not is that there hasn't been a reason to do so.
   
DOM UI (at least when I last looked) just means that that
renderer
(the page) gets extra privileges necessary for doing special
browser
calls, such as access to your browsing history for the History
implementation.
   
We went to some effort to keep these sorts of pages distinct
 from
network content with the hope of reducing the security
 surface.
 I
worry changing this for FTP would be going in the wrong
direction.
   
It might make more sense to do something *like* DOM UI but
 with a
different API just to keep things distinct.  But then we
reencounter
the same sorts of problems we have with DOM UI, like for
 example
if
you click a link from an FTP site to an HTML file, how to
 prevent
the
FTP privileges from bleeding into the HTML file.
   
I feel like Darin is the person who would best know how to
address
this.
 :)
   
   
   
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Re: [chromium-dev] Can we use a DOM ui page for ftp:/// and file:/// directory listings?

2010-01-10 Thread Pierre-Antoine LaFayette
True, there really is no need for it to be synchronous.

2010/1/10 Peter Kasting pkast...@google.com

 On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Pierre-Antoine LaFayette 
 pierre.lafaye...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is it illegal for the WebKit glue layer to send synchronous messages to
 the browser requesting the icon data URI?


 I don't know, but in general sync messages suck.  Why couldn't you use an
 async message and just show the icon once it arrives?

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Re: [chromium-dev] opening local files with chrome from command line, relative paths

2010-01-09 Thread Pierre-Antoine LaFayette
Bash won't let me do this:

$ mkdir https:
mkdir: cannot create directory `https:': No such file or directory

$ mkdir https:
mkdir: cannot create directory `https:': No such file or director

2010/1/9 Victor Khimenko k...@google.com


 On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Antoine Labour pi...@google.com wrote:

 I'm not sure I understand the security risk... If an attacker is able to
 write files on my disk I have a lot more things to worry about than my
 browser spoofing urls.

 Are you sure? The idea is the same as with $PATH attack. Sure, some
 systems don't even need . in PATH to call programs from current dir by
 default, but it does make it good idea.


 In any case you can always OpenURL(string(file://) +
 urlencode(file_or_url)) instead of OpenLocalFile

 What will this change? There are sad but fundamental truth about POSIX
 filenames: ANY string without embedded NUL characters can be valid filename.
 There are some limitations (MAX_PATH, max number of slashes in some systems,
 etc), but they are minor.

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Re: [chromium-dev] opening local files with chrome from command line, relative paths

2010-01-09 Thread Pierre-Antoine LaFayette
Actually it was Cygwin on Windows Vista (GNU bash, version
3.2.49(22)-release (i686-pc-cygwin)
Copyright (C) 2007 Free Software Foundation, Inc.). However this isn't very
important with regards to the point you're trying to make. I was just
curious.

2010/1/9 Victor Khimenko k...@google.com

 What OS is it? What FS ? I've checked with GHardy - everything works just
 fine. You can create filenames with :, , , etc. Anything except /
 but then it's compensated by the fact that duplicated slashes are ignored.

 Cygwin works too (starting from version 1.7 where support for POSIX FS
 namespace was added) even if it's pretty irrelevant to Chrome discussion...


 On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Pierre-Antoine LaFayette 
 pierre.lafaye...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bash won't let me do this:

 $ mkdir https:
 mkdir: cannot create directory `https:': No such file or directory

 $ mkdir https:
 mkdir: cannot create directory `https:': No such file or director

 2010/1/9 Victor Khimenko k...@google.com


 On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Antoine Labour pi...@google.com wrote:

 I'm not sure I understand the security risk... If an attacker is able to
 write files on my disk I have a lot more things to worry about than my
 browser spoofing urls.

 Are you sure? The idea is the same as with $PATH attack. Sure, some
 systems don't even need . in PATH to call programs from current dir by
 default, but it does make it good idea.


 In any case you can always OpenURL(string(file://) +
 urlencode(file_or_url)) instead of OpenLocalFile

 What will this change? There are sad but fundamental truth about POSIX
 filenames: ANY string without embedded NUL characters can be valid filename.
 There are some limitations (MAX_PATH, max number of slashes in some systems,
 etc), but they are minor.

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Re: [chromium-dev] Can we use a DOM ui page for ftp:/// and file:/// directory listings?

2010-01-06 Thread Pierre-Antoine LaFayette
Okay. Yes we could use data URI, but where do we retrieve the icon resources
from at that level?

2010/1/6 Darin Fisher da...@chromium.org

 We can also use data: URLs to inject the icons into the HTML file used to
 render the directory listings.  We can do that at the time when the HTML
 file is generated.

 -Darin


 On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Evan Martin e...@chromium.org wrote:

 I talked with Arv in person and I think I sufficiently convinced him
 that getting DOMUI security right is tricky.  (Consider: XSSes in the
 FTP display code, and that ftp sites containing HTML pages must not
 have privs when displaying the HTML.)  That may still mean that DOMUI
 is ok, but I would prefer to consider any other option available.

 One idea is to say we don't care if any old page can img
 src='chrome://os-style-icon/foobar.psd' to get a Photoshop icon.
 Not sure.

 On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Erik Arvidsson a...@chromium.org wrote:
  I think it should be OK to move these to DOMUI. NTP can also link to
  local HTML files and we already mark the chrome protocol in such a way
  that it cannot be accessed by any other scheme.
 
  erik
 
 
 
  On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 15:19, Pierre-Antoine LaFayette
  pierre.lafaye...@gmail.com wrote:
  That's why I wanted to check before starting any work. So the question
 is
  now whether it we'd rather use a DOM UI page or create a similar API
 that
  would be used solely by file:// and ftp://. What is needed for
  http://crbug.com/24421 is simply access to the favicon data for file
 types.
  I'm not sure if these are available through WebCore or not. The drag
 and
  drop functionality required by http://crbug.com/27772 seems like it
 would be
  a lot of work without using a DOM UI page.
  Any opinions on this part of my original post?:
  Is there any reason why ChromiumOS' chrome://filebrowse DOM ui page
 couldn't
  be generalized to
  be used for these other directory listing pages?
  It just seems to me that it would be rather redundant handle 3 separate
  instances of a file browse HTML page (ftp://, file:// and
  chrome://filebrowse) in 3 separate ways.
  Thanks.
  2010/1/5 Evan Martin e...@chromium.org
 
  On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Glen Murphy g...@chromium.org
 wrote:
   I don't think anyone has any objection to DOMUIifying those pages,
 and
   I don't think it would be a large amount of work. The only reason
   they're not is that there hasn't been a reason to do so.
 
  DOM UI (at least when I last looked) just means that that renderer
  (the page) gets extra privileges necessary for doing special browser
  calls, such as access to your browsing history for the History
  implementation.
 
  We went to some effort to keep these sorts of pages distinct from
  network content with the hope of reducing the security surface.  I
  worry changing this for FTP would be going in the wrong direction.
 
  It might make more sense to do something *like* DOM UI but with a
  different API just to keep things distinct.  But then we reencounter
  the same sorts of problems we have with DOM UI, like for example if
  you click a link from an FTP site to an HTML file, how to prevent the
  FTP privileges from bleeding into the HTML file.
 
  I feel like Darin is the person who would best know how to address
 this.
   :)
 
 
 
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Re: [chromium-dev] Can we use a DOM ui page for ftp:/// and file:/// directory listings?

2010-01-05 Thread Pierre-Antoine LaFayette
That's why I wanted to check before starting any work. So the question is
now whether it we'd rather use a DOM UI page or create a similar API that
would be used solely by file:// and ftp://. What is needed for
http://crbug.com/24421 is simply access to the favicon data for file types.
I'm not sure if these are available through WebCore or not. The drag and
drop functionality required by http://crbug.com/27772 seems like it would be
a lot of work without using a DOM UI page.

Any opinions on this part of my original post?:

Is there any reason why ChromiumOS' chrome://filebrowse DOM ui page couldn't
be generalized to
be used for these other directory listing pages?

It just seems to me that it would be rather redundant handle 3 separate
instances of a file browse HTML page (ftp://, file:// and
chrome://filebrowse) in 3 separate ways.

Thanks.

2010/1/5 Evan Martin e...@chromium.org

 On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Glen Murphy g...@chromium.org wrote:
  I don't think anyone has any objection to DOMUIifying those pages, and
  I don't think it would be a large amount of work. The only reason
  they're not is that there hasn't been a reason to do so.

 DOM UI (at least when I last looked) just means that that renderer
 (the page) gets extra privileges necessary for doing special browser
 calls, such as access to your browsing history for the History
 implementation.

 We went to some effort to keep these sorts of pages distinct from
 network content with the hope of reducing the security surface.  I
 worry changing this for FTP would be going in the wrong direction.

 It might make more sense to do something *like* DOM UI but with a
 different API just to keep things distinct.  But then we reencounter
 the same sorts of problems we have with DOM UI, like for example if
 you click a link from an FTP site to an HTML file, how to prevent the
 FTP privileges from bleeding into the HTML file.

 I feel like Darin is the person who would best know how to address this.
  :)




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Re: [chromium-dev] Re: Chromium Tech Talks

2009-12-08 Thread Pierre-Antoine LaFayette
Thanks for doing this!

2009/12/8 Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org

 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org wrote:

 Last Friday we recorded 4 tech talks based on the feedback we got on what
 topics would be interestingand here they are!

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFzC_Gx76E8
 Darin Fisher talks about the recently upstreamed Chromium WebKit API.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO3XEBuIDns
 Pam Greene talks about how WebKit Layout Tests are used within Chromium.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5-aXfSt-RA
 Brett Wilson talks about the painting process in Chromium. Brett starts
 from the render tree in WebKit, across the IPC boundaries, and all the way
 to your screen. He also details many of the differences in painting between
 platforms.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpcOXzIsSlo
 A deep dive into the guts of WebKit. Eric Seidel explains the process from
 loading the resources, building the DOM tree, and the various trees involved
 in rendering.


 I can't tell you how impressed I was with all of the talks.  I learned a
 couple things from even the talks that covered material I thought I knew
 well.

 Enjoy!
 J


 P.S. All the talks (past and present) can be found here:
 http://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/developers/tech-talk-videos

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Re: [chromium-dev] Running page cycler tests locally

2009-11-12 Thread Pierre-Antoine LaFayette
Yes, I actually did figure out that the acid3 data could be used as sample
test data for page_cycler if you mkdir $CHROME/src/data/page_cycler/moz/ and
copy the src/tools/page_cycler/acid3 stuff into that directory.

2009/11/12 Chase Phillips c...@google.com

 On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Peter Kasting pkast...@google.comwrote:

 On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:17 PM, plafayette 
 pierre.lafaye...@gmail.comwrote:

 I've built page_cycler on Windows and it's asking for a test data
 folder with the path $CHROME/src/data/page_cycler. Is the data
 available under the chrome source tree? I can't seem to find it and I
 don't have it excluded in my .gclient file.


 This data is not publicly available, sorry.

 It would be great (and helpful to more browser vendors than just Google)
 to have a high-quality, redistributable data set for testing page loading.
  Unfortunately, this would require getting content authors to contribute
 their content along with sufficient rights to distribute it publicly.
  Generally this is very difficult.


 Just noting along with Peter's comments that if you want an example of
 something like what our page cycler tests currently perform, see
 src/tools/page_cycler/acid3/start.html.  Reviewing the acid3 page cycler
 might give you a good starting place for building your own private page
 cycler tests until some well known and well understood public page cyclers
 become available.

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Re: [chromium-dev] Re: Tech talk topics

2009-11-11 Thread Pierre-Antoine LaFayette
+1 for WebKit talks.

I think the painting phase and it's Chromium port would be a very
interesting topic. Things like the GraphicsContext interface and the
GraphicsContextSkia implementation. What is required for a GraphicsContext
port? What is the bottleneck in the paint process (e.g. the Skia blit ops)?

2009/11/5 Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org

 Thanks for the suggestions so far!  Here's what I've seen so far:
 WebKit API - Darin?
 Eric's WebKit talk
 LayoutTests - Pam?
 Bindings - Andrew?

 Keep the ideas coming.  If we get more than we want to tackle we can always
 vote on which would be most helpful to the community, but all the ones I've
 heard so far sound very valuable.

 J


 On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Andrew Scherkus scher...@chromium.orgwrote:

 Something that would have been immensely helpful to me when I started was
 a talk explaining the interaction between the javascript bindings,
 HTMLFooElement classes and RenderFoo classes.

 I'd volunteer, but I still don't know enough about this stuff myself --
 other than when Foo == Media :)

 Andrew

 On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Mohamed Mansour m...@chromium.org wrote:

 +1 on the WebKit tech talks. And maybe on on the WebKitAPI infrastructure
 that darin organized.

  - Mohamed Mansour


 On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Scott Violet s...@chromium.org wrote:


 It's not Chromium, but how about some WebKit tech talks? Such talks
 would be incredibly valuable to those helping out now and then with
 WebKit.

  -Scott

 On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org
 wrote:
  About 6 months ago, we had a series of tech talks on various bits of
  Chromium's architecture.  (They're listed
  here: http://dev.chromium.org/developers/tech-talk-videos)  The
 youtube
  ratings are pretty high, they've all had over a thousand views, and
 I've
  seen them mentioned in a couple chromium-dev threadsso it seems
 like
  they've been helpful.
  So here's my question: are there any Chromium-internals related topics
 you
  guys/gals would really like to hear more on?  If so, I'll see if we
 can't
  find speakers, schedule some tech talks, get them recorded, and
 posted.  And
  this time, we'll make sure the audio and video quality is much higher.
  :-)
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[chromium-dev] Re: Extracting Webkit Test Shell and its dependencies

2009-10-03 Thread Pierre-Antoine LaFayette
I wanted to create a source tree separate from chrome that contains the
test_shell project and any other projects it needs within chromium, nothing
more. E.g. base, net, webkit etc. Wasn't sure if there is an easy way to
figure out all the other projects it depends on.
Actually I realized that what I really wanted was simply DumpRenderTree
since I need to run layout tests on the Android platform. Fortunately
Android has a java test app (LayoutTestsAutoRunner.java) that seems like it
should do what I need. I'm just having a hell of a time trying to get it to
run even on the Android emulator. But that's really a question for the
Android team.

Thanks.

2009/10/2 Bradley Nelson bradnel...@google.com

 Also you should get webkit/tools/tests_shell.sln
 -BradN


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 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 4:06 AM, plafayette 
 pierre.lafaye...@gmail.comwrote:

 Is there a good, and less painful, way to extract test_shell into its
 own project?


 I don't understand.  test_shell already is its own project (.vcproj).

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