[cia-drugs] Fletcher Prouty and Me

2006-09-17 Thread muckblit
I was cleaning a closet today and came across an old picture.

It shows my first cousin once removed, my mother's mother's brother's
son, my mother's first cousin, Web Maxson, and his orchestra, which
included Fletcher Prouty.

It's a dance orchestra like Guy Lombardi and Glenn Miller.

The typed label says,WEB MAXSON and his orchestra featuring Miss.MARTHA
and FLETCHER PROUTY.

My pick for Prouty would be the clarinet player. Something about his
eyes, compared to prouty.org

I emailed Len Osanic at prouty.org and asked him which instrument Prouty
played. I can't even recognize my cousin but he must be the one holding
the baton. His name is on the bass drum and his initials on four
clamshell stands that must conceal music sheets.

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[cia-drugs] The Longer the War, the Larger the Lies - FRANK RICH; Progress or Regress? - PAUL KRUGMAN

2006-09-17 Thread MA PA



  The Longer the War, the Larger the Lies - FRANK RICH; Progress or Regress? - PAUL KRUGMAN  by FRANK RICH, PAUL KRUGMAN - THE NEW YORK TIMES Sunday Sep 17th, 2006   - Rich: Larger War Lies - The Bush administration is carpet-bombing America with still more fictions about Iraq(the complete article including all hyperlinks). - KRUGMAN - Middle Class - Why has technological and economic progress done so little for most Americans?; and more  OP-ED COLUMNIST The Longer the War, the Larger the Lies By FRANK RICH Published: September 17, 2006 RARELY has a television network presented a more perfectly matched double feature. President Bush's 9/11 address on Monday night interrupted ABC's "Path to
 9/11" so seamlessly that a single network disclaimer served them both: "For dramatic and narrative purposes, the movie contains fictionalized scenes, composite and representative characters and dialogue, as well as time compression." No kidding: "The Path to 9/11" was false from the opening scene, when it put Mohamed Atta both in the wrong airport (Boston instead of Portland, Me.) and on the wrong airline (American instead of USAirways). It took Mr. Bush but a few paragraphs to warm up to his first fictionalization for dramatic purposes: his renewed pledge that "we would not distinguish between the terrorists and those who harbor or support them." Only days earlier the White House sat idly by while our ally Pakistan surrendered to Islamic militants in its northwest frontier, signing a "truce" and releasing Al Qaeda prisoners. Not only will Pakistan continue to harbor terrorists, Osama bin Laden probably among them, but it will do so without a peep from Mr. Bush.
 You'd think that after having been caught concocting the scenario that took the nation to war in Iraq, the White House would mind the facts now. But this administration understands our culture all too well. Continued: http://mparent.livejournal.com/12420330.html Progress or Regress? : PAUL KRUGMAN - Middle Class http://mparent.livejournal.com/12419942.html And More on Today's Newswire http://mparent.livejournal.com/2006/09/17/ MARC PARENT CRIMES AND CORRUPTIONS OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER NEWS http://mparent.livejournal.com/ http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/14409 http://www.dailykos.com/user/ccnwon 
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[cia-drugs] Fw: [GATA] Is U.S. trying to drive Iran out of the dollar?

2006-09-17 Thread Vigilius Haufniensis






- Original Message - 
From: Gold Anti-Trust 
Action Committee 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 2:08 AM
Subject: [GATA] Is U.S. trying to drive Iran out of the 
dollar?







  
  

  Is U.S. trying to drive Iran out of the dollar?
Submitted by 
cpowell on 03:13PM ET Saturday, September 16, 2006. Section: Daily Dispatches 
U.S. Asks Finance Chiefsto Limit Iran's Access to Banks 
By Steven R. WeismanThe New York TimesSunday, September 17, 2006
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/17/world/middleeast/17paulson.html?_r=1o...
SINGAPORE, Sept. 16 -- The United States pressed the top finance officials of 
the world’s leading industrial nations on Saturday to crack down on what 
Treasury Secretary Henry M. Paulson Jr. said was the exploitation of their 
banking systems by at least 30 Iranian front companies involved in illicit 
activities.
Mr. Paulson said he told the finance and economic ministers that the front 
companies had been identified by American intelligence agencies as conducting 
international financial transactions using banks in Europe and elsewhere, many 
of them "blue chip banks."
"Iran is a country that has broad, deep and commercial relationships with 
much of the world that have gone on for some time," Mr. Paulson told reporters. 
"This was nothing more than an educational briefing to prepare financial 
institutions for dealing with some of the risks that are out there."
The Treasury chief's comments came after he met with his counterparts from 
Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Canada, Japan and the European Union, who had 
come for the annual gathering of the World Bank and the International Monetary 
Fund.
They appeared to reflect the emerging Bush administration strategy on Iran as 
efforts to impose sanctions on Iran by the United Nations Security Council have 
faltered.
The administration charges that Iran has a secret nuclear weapons program, a 
charge that Iran denies. Iran is also accused of transferring funds to Hezbollah 
and other Islamic militant organizations through regular commercial banks.
What administration officials call a major escalation in the effort to 
squeeze Iran economically occurred last week when the Treasury Department 
announced that Bank Saderat, a major bank in Iran, would no longer have even 
indirect access to the United States financial system.
The new decree means that Iran will have difficulty selling anything, 
including oil, for dollars through Bank Saderat, according to banking experts, 
because any commercial exchange that uses dollars normally obtains the dollars 
from an American bank. Many banking experts say the administration may name 
other banks as off-limits soon.
After the announcement on Bank Saderat, two senior Treasury officials visited 
Europe to try to persuade regulators and banks to stop doing business with Bank 
Saderat and any other banks that are alleged to be involved in illicit 
activities such as funneling money to groups the United States considers 
terrorist. Some European banks have already curtailed their activities with 
Iran, but many leading banks have refused.
Stuart Levey, under secretary of the Treasury for terrorism and financial 
intelligence, visited Britain, France, Switzerland, Italy and Germany, and the 
deputy treasury secretary, Robert Kimmitt, went to Germany. France, Italy and 
Germany have extensive commercial relations with Iran and its trading 
companies.
The Treasury department has declined to name the banks they met with.
Mr. Paulson said many leading trading companies in Iran with legitimate 
business operations were also involved in the illicit activities, and that it 
behooved any legitimate bank to realize that it was risky to continue doing even 
legitimate business with them.
He called on banks around the world to be "vigilant" in opposing such risks 
and to avoid "inadvertently facilitating the kinds of activities that they 
wouldn't want to facilitate." 
Iran was only one of many subjects in Mr. Paulson's meetings with the finance 
ministers. Also on the agenda was a discussion of the world economy, which Mr. 
Paulson said had grown in recent years at rates that he and others had not seen 
in a generation. Despite that, he acknowledged risks arising from the failure of 
recent global trade talks, high energy prices and the problem of what are called 
"economic imbalances."
That phrase is a euphemism for a broad set of problems, including the fact 
that the United States imports much more than it exports and has thus become the 
world's leading debtor, owing hundreds of billions of dollars to China, Japan 
and other trading partners. The United States says this problem can be remedied 
by the trading partners importing more from the United States and also by China 
allowing its currency to rise in value in relation to the dollar, thereby making 
exports to the United States more expensive.
In a statement Saturday, the finance ministers of the leading 

[cia-drugs] Fw: [GATA] Liberty Dollar proponents vow to resist government crackdown

2006-09-17 Thread Vigilius Haufniensis






- Original Message - 
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 2:06 AM
Subject: [GATA] Liberty Dollar proponents vow to resist government 
crackdown







  
  

  Liberty Dollar proponents vow to resist government crackdown
Submitted by 
cpowell on 03:38PM ET Saturday, September 16, 2006. Section: Daily Dispatches 
From the Buffalo NewsSaturday, September 16, 2006
http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20060916/6002444.asp
An attempt to buy beer at a Buffalo Sabres game using silver medallions known 
as Liberty Dollars landed two Derby men in trouble with Buffalo police last 
December. Now the federal government is warning people all over the United 
States that the medallions are "not legal tender" and that using them as money 
is a federal crime. 
Despite "their misleading appearance, NORFED 'Liberty Dollar' medallions are 
not genuine United States Mint coins," the U.S. Mint said in a press statement 
issued this week. "Prosecutors with the Department of Justice have determined 
that the use of these ... medallions as circulating money is a Federal crime." 

The government's strong words drew a perplexed reaction Friday from the 
attorney for the two Derby men and a defiant reaction from a Hamburg man who is 
the executive director of the organization that produces the medallions. 
"We don't doubt the legality of this, despite the government's accusations," 
said Michael Johnson of Hamburg, executive director of the Indiana-based 
National Organization for the Repeal of the Federal Reserve Act. 
The government "is absolutely not going to stop us." 
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RE: [cia-drugs] Re: Iran's oil bourse to be launched

2006-09-17 Thread michael cook
10-4! Iran has been threatening this since early this year... if they go 
through with it it just might wreck our economy, which will happen sooner or 
later anyway, since it's a pyramid scheme based on infinite growth in a 
finite world, and it's totally dependant on oil, a finite resource.
I ask you, if one other country can knock our economy down with one simple 
maneuver like that, is that an economy we really want to try to hang on to?
Nice to join your group!
Thanks for having me.
Mike
(love your name :-)!

From: mark urban [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com
To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [cia-drugs] Re: Iran's oil bourse to be launched
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 00:37:33 -

-I believe this has more to do with why bush and the neocons want to
bomb the shit out of iran than terrorism.

-- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  http://www.mehrnews.ir/en/NewsDetail.aspx?NewsID=380656
 
Iran's oil bourse to be launched
 
TEHRAN, Sept. 15 (MNA) -- Oil Minister Kazem Vaziri-Hamaneh
said here on Friday that all preparatory requirements were arranged
for launching the oil stock market in the country.
Speaking to the reporters at the Mehrabad International
Airport upon arriving in Tehran from an OPEC conference in Vienna,
Vaziri-Hamaneh said that all un-subsidized oil products can be
offered in this stock market.
 
 
 
He also rejected rumors about the preparation of a plan to
gradually increase the gasoline price, but added that the cabinet had
submitted a bill to the Majlis for importing gasoline.
 
 
 
If the bill is ratified, the present condition will continue
and rationing will be put into practice later.
 
 
 
Hamaneh further noted that the plan to issue fuel debit cards
will be finalized within three months.
 
 
 
As for the decisions made during that OPEC conference, the
minister said that the member countries were quite concerned for the
downward trend of oil price, and so decided to maintain the present
oil production ceiling.
 
 
 
Elsewhere in his remarks, Vaziri-Hamaneh referred to the
development of the Azadegan oilfield and said that an agreement has
been inked with the Japanese, granting to them a 15-day opening to
meet their commitments.
 
 
 
He explained the Total Company anyway stresses cooperating
with the Japanese and is interested in starting the conduction of
project after the cooperation contract is finalized with the Japanese
contractor.
 
 
 
Answering a question about the development of the Arash
oilfield, Iranian oil minister said that an Iranian delegation will
head for Kuwait within 7 to10 days, adding that however, Iran and
Kuwait are determined to jointly develop their joint oilfield.
 
 
 
Hamaneh said that a two-month opening has been also granted
to the Chinese contractor to develop Yadavaran oilfield.
 
 
 
Elaborating on the development process of the Peace Pipeline,
he said the consultant party is supposed to estimate and submit the
gas price as soon as possible so that Iran can negotiate it with the
Indian and Pakistani ministers.
 








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[cia-drugs] Fwd: MPP confronts White House, White House debates MPP

2006-09-17 Thread RoadsEnd


Begin forwarded message:From: "Marijuana Policy Project" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: September 14, 2006 2:03:28 PM PDTTo: "Kris Millegan" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: MPP confronts White House, White House debates MPPReply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Marijuana Policy Project Alert   September 14, 2006 MPP confronts White House, White House debates MPPDear Kris Millegan:Last night, the White House finally debated MPP out in the open, in public. The Drug Policy Alliance's Ethan Nadelmann and I debated David Murray, special assistant to White House Drug Czar John Walters, on the medical marijuana issue in a theater in Washington, D.C. (Andrea Barthwell, former deputy director of the drug czar's office, chickened out at the last minute.)Ethan and I won. I'll send you a link to a video of the debate when it becomes available online.Also, last week at the National Press Club in D.C., MPP's congressional lobbyist confronted the drug czar about how his office had buried a government-sponsored report that's critical of his national advertising campaign. In his response, the drug czar made the outrageous claim that MPP staffers spend their time "in ... chat rooms encouraging people to use marijuana." He also issued this caution to the room full of prohibitionists and reporters while pointing to MPP's lobbyist: "Make sure you keep your kids away from them." You can read the exchange between MPP's Aaron Houston and Drug Czar John Walters here.To support MPP's aggressive campaign to confront the White House and its drug czar everywhere possible, please make a financial contribution today. According to MPP's records, you have not yet made a financial donation to MPP (or the tax-deductible MPP Foundation) in 2006, so I'm hoping you will donate $10 or more today.As I mentioned in an alert last week, a new report commissioned by the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) found that the White House-sponsored National Youth Anti-Drug Media Campaign — which runs ridiculous ads featuring teenagers under the influence of marijuana committing violent crimes — not only fails to reduce teen marijuana use, but in some cases actually increases teen marijuana use! The drug czar — whose office runs those ads — is coming under heavy fire with the release of the report ... which was kept under wraps for a year-and-a-half until the Marijuana Policy Project pushed for its release.USA Today, The Washington Post, CNN, Fox News' Web site, Slate, a Scientific American podcast, and newspapers around the country have all covered this damning new evidence of the drug czar's failure. Read some of the coverage here.When MPP's Aaron Houston asked the drug czar to comment on the findings of the report and the fact that his office sat on it for so long, Walters dismissed the report as a "sideshow."But the drug czar's troubles keep coming: The U.S. Senate Appropriations Committee recently recommended cutting salaries and expenses in his office from $26.6 million to $11.5 million — a reduction of more than half — "to more closely reflect actual performance." You can read about the Senate committee's recommendation here.Thanks in advance for anything you can donate to help us in our "War on Drug Czar." With your help, we hope to see a drastic reduction in the scope of his power and influence in the coming year.Sincerely,Rob Kampia Executive Director Marijuana Policy Project Washington, D.C.P.S. As I've mentioned in previous alerts, a major philanthropist has committed to match the first $3.5 million that MPP can raise from the rest of the planet in 2006. This means that your donation today will be doubled.   P.P.S. If you've decided you don't want to donate anything today — and you're also sure you don't want to donate any money during the remainder of this year — you can opt out of receiving fundraising mentions in the e-mail alerts I send you by visiting http://www.mpp.org/2006optoutpreference at your convenience.   Raised in '06 $2,472,317 Goal in '06 $3,500,000 Days until Election Day 54  MPP will be able to tackle all of the projects in our 2006 strategic plan if you and other allies are generous enough to fund our work.Popular Links: • MPP's home page • FAQ • State-by-state medical marijuana laws • MPP news releases • 2006 strategic plan • Download hand-outs • About the Marijuana Policy Project • MedicalMarijuanaProCon.org MPP e-mail list options Update your contact information or change your alert preferences Small Print … You are receiving this e-mail because you subscribed to MPP's e-mail alerts. To unsubscribe, click the link at the bottom of this message. Removal may take up to 48 hours. To contact MPP, please click here or reply to this e-mail. Our mailing address is MPP, P.O. Box 77492, Capitol Hill, Washington, D.C. 20013.    Remove yourself from this mailing.  
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[cia-drugs] Fwd: [SPY NEWS] Google and the CIA

2006-09-17 Thread RoadsEnd


Begin forwarded message:From: "Mario Profaca" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: September 17, 2006 5:07:35 AM PDTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [SPY NEWS] Google and the CIAReply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/02/22/google-in-bed-with-us-intelligence/ Google in bed with U.S. intelligence  By Michael Hampton  Posted: February 22, 2006 11:31 am Even while Google presents a public image of vigorously protecting its users’ privacy, it has quietly provided assistance to several U.S. intelligence agencies, such as the Central Intelligence Agency and Defense Intelligence Agency, as the U.S. prosecutes its war on terrorism. In addition, Google may be providing assistance to the National Security Agency.IT contractors and intelligence officials familiar with the arrangement confirmed to HSToday.us that Google had been providing assistance to the intelligence community, but would not say under what authority that assistance had been requested or provided.The intelligence community appears to be interested in data mining Google’s vast store of information on each user who uses Google’s services. Google collects data on each user’s search queries, which web sites users visited after making a query, and through its Google Analytics service, can also track users on cooperating web sites. It’s not clear what level of access to or how much of this information has been made available to intelligence agencies. The contractor, who spoke on a not-for-attribution basis, said that at   least one US intelligence agency he declined to identify is working to   “leverage Google’s [user] data monitoring” capability as part of an effort by   the IC to glean from this data information of “national security intelligence   interest” in the war on terror. . . .One of the sources did say, however, that the CIA’s Office of Research and   Development “has been giving them additional money and guidance and   requirements.”Last November, the CIA - through In-Q-Tel [CIA venture capital company] -   issued notices to sell $2.2 million worth of Google stock.Robert David Steele, intelligence veteran and CEO of   OSS.Net, Inc. which sponsored last week’s event, told   HSToday.us Tuesday evening that “Google is being actively hypocritical   and deceptive in playing up its refusal to help the Department of Justice when   all along it has been taking money and direction for elements of the US   Intelligence Community, including the Office of Research and Development at   the Central Intelligence Agency, In-Q-Tel, and in all probability, both the   National Security Agency (NSA) and the Army’s Intelligence and Security   Command.”Steele added, “I have no doubt that Google, in its arrogance,   decided it could make a deal with the devil and not get caught.” — HSToday.usIf you are extremely concerned about the possibility that your private browsing information is going to wind up in the hands of U.S. intelligence agencies, you can throw a spanner in the works by blocking cookies from the following domains: google.com, googlesyndication.com, google-analytics.com, and your country-specific Google domain (e.g. google.co.uk). If you actually use Google services, such as Google Mail, then this obviously will prevent you from using those services.Even with cookies blocked, a limited amount of user tracking is possible, so unless you really are a terrorist, it probably isn’t worth the trouble. I still have all of my Google Cookies. Then again, I already know they’re watching me…  Comments RSS - Trackback URI  One Comment Anonymous February 27, 2006 7:25 pm | Link That may be very well so that Google is cooperating with the various intelligence services. The FBI, CIA, NSA, DIA have a way of coming across pretty heavy handed, despite the law, and intimidate people who either resist or hint of not cooperating. So, it only stands to reason Google would cooperate. However, they could only find less than a dozen of people they call “terrorist” in this country out of the 375,000 names they collected, who mostly from overseas. So, by their own admission, it is pretty evident there was never a need for the Patriot Act, and all this silly spying on Americans using the internet. They have had 4 years and several billion dollars at their disposal to find terrorists. So far, they really don’t seem to know what they are looking for other than go through the motions of looking like they are doing something in the name of Homeland Security.  Links2600   Magazine  The Hacker Quarterly  Amazon   Wish List  Things I want.  Americans Deserve Privacy  How .US privacy was eliminated  Badnarik/Campagna 2004  The official campaign site.  Bastard Operator from   Hell  You had files?  Cato Institute  Individual Liberty, Limited Government, Free Markets and Peace  CentOS  Your alternative to a major Linux distributor's enterprise product. This   site is powered by CentOS.  Citadel  Since 1988, the Internet's longest running open discussion software.  

[cia-drugs] Re: Iran's oil bourse to be launched

2006-09-17 Thread mark urban
If this happens, then the dollar will no longer be the world's 
reserve currency. Right now you must pay for your oil in dollars no 
matter which country you are. If the iranian oil bourse succeeds, 
then about three quarters of a trillion dollars that is held by 
foreign countries to buy oil will no longer be needed. The first 
countries to get rid of their petrodollars will be the luckiest, 
because as the transactions continue, the dollar will become less and 
less valuable in terms of its exchange rate. the result will be that 
our buying power for commodities will drop precipitipusly. our 
economic engine has depended quite a bit on the petrodollar and the 
strength it gave our currency. When that ends, america will just be 
another international beggar nation with a terrible debt jones and a 
very sophisticated protection racket run by the occupying government. 
As indvidual citizens, those who do not have the luxury of dealing in 
other currencies or commodities are going to see their purchasing 
power diminish at a rate that will simply take their breath away. we 
will come to know what it was like in 1990 when the soviet union 
collapsed. imagine being on a fixed income when it takes your total 
monthly income to buy a weeks worth of food.


--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, michael cook 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 10-4! Iran has been threatening this since early this year... if 
they go 
 through with it it just might wreck our economy, which will happen 
sooner or 
 later anyway, since it's a pyramid scheme based on infinite growth 
in a 
 finite world, and it's totally dependant on oil, a finite resource.
 I ask you, if one other country can knock our economy down with one 
simple 
 maneuver like that, is that an economy we really want to try to 
hang on to?
 Nice to join your group!
 Thanks for having me.
 Mike
 (love your name :-)!
 
 From: mark urban [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com
 To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [cia-drugs] Re: Iran's oil bourse to be launched
 Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 00:37:33 -
 
 -I believe this has more to do with why bush and the neocons want 
to
 bomb the shit out of iran than terrorism.
 
 -- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis
 nerdmann@ wrote:
  
   http://www.mehrnews.ir/en/NewsDetail.aspx?NewsID=380656
  
 Iran's oil bourse to be launched
  
 TEHRAN, Sept. 15 (MNA) -- Oil Minister Kazem Vaziri-
Hamaneh
 said here on Friday that all preparatory requirements were arranged
 for launching the oil stock market in the country.
 Speaking to the reporters at the Mehrabad International
 Airport upon arriving in Tehran from an OPEC conference in Vienna,
 Vaziri-Hamaneh said that all un-subsidized oil products can be
 offered in this stock market.
  
  
  
 He also rejected rumors about the preparation of a plan to
 gradually increase the gasoline price, but added that the cabinet 
had
 submitted a bill to the Majlis for importing gasoline.
  
  
  
 If the bill is ratified, the present condition will 
continue
 and rationing will be put into practice later.
  
  
  
 Hamaneh further noted that the plan to issue fuel debit 
cards
 will be finalized within three months.
  
  
  
 As for the decisions made during that OPEC conference, the
 minister said that the member countries were quite concerned for 
the
 downward trend of oil price, and so decided to maintain the present
 oil production ceiling.
  
  
  
 Elsewhere in his remarks, Vaziri-Hamaneh referred to the
 development of the Azadegan oilfield and said that an agreement has
 been inked with the Japanese, granting to them a 15-day opening to
 meet their commitments.
  
  
  
 He explained the Total Company anyway stresses 
cooperating
 with the Japanese and is interested in starting the conduction of
 project after the cooperation contract is finalized with the 
Japanese
 contractor.
  
  
  
 Answering a question about the development of the Arash
 oilfield, Iranian oil minister said that an Iranian delegation will
 head for Kuwait within 7 to10 days, adding that however, Iran and
 Kuwait are determined to jointly develop their joint oilfield.
  
  
  
 Hamaneh said that a two-month opening has been also 
granted
 to the Chinese contractor to develop Yadavaran oilfield.
  
  
  
 Elaborating on the development process of the Peace 
Pipeline,
 he said the consultant party is supposed to estimate and submit the
 gas price as soon as possible so that Iran can negotiate it with 
the
 Indian and Pakistani ministers.
  
 
 
 
 







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[cia-drugs] Re: Fletcher Prouty and Me

2006-09-17 Thread muckblit
Two views:

http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/photos/view/108f?b=1m=so=0

--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, muckblit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was cleaning a closet today and came across an old picture.

 It shows my first cousin once removed, my mother's mother's brother's
 son, my mother's first cousin, Web Maxson, and his orchestra, which
 included Fletcher Prouty.

 It's a dance orchestra like Guy Lombardi and Glenn Miller.

 The typed label says,WEB MAXSON and his orchestra featuring
Miss.MARTHA
 and FLETCHER PROUTY.

 My pick for Prouty would be the clarinet player. Something about his
 eyes, compared to prouty.org

 I emailed Len Osanic at prouty.org and asked him which instrument
Prouty
 played. I can't even recognize my cousin but he must be the one
holding
 the baton. His name is on the bass drum and his initials on four
 clamshell stands that must conceal music sheets.

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[cia-drugs] Re: [WETHEPEOPLE_UNITED] ABC's Rosie Says: Quoting, Radical Christians no different than murde rous radical Muslims

2006-09-17 Thread Marsha MCClelland



She's not the type to apologize when she's right, in my opinionBe sure to use this nasty little campaignto reverse their evil plot and speak up for Rosie O'DonnellI just erased the nasty little note that was written againsther for telling the truth...Won't you help thwart their evil plan?...I saidThe thinking people know the facts and Rosie was correct...Kudos to herWhen you click the link you can hear exactly what she saidMarsha...PS...Remember the links we send are coming apart...If this happens just paste it into your browser and close the spaces before you clickhttps://secure.afa.net/afa/activism/takeaction.asp?id=214  NT
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Why should Rosie apologize? As a born again evangelical Christian, I found her comments to be accurate. Radical "christians" continue to support Bush's lying, killing and stealing for greed - and REJECT the Truth that Iraq was not involved with 9/11. It's clear who they worship."lolministries@netzero.net" lolministries@netzero.net wrote:Donald E.
 WildmonFounder and Chairman September 14, 2006Please help us get this information into the hands of as many people as possible by forwarding it to your entire email list of family and friends.O'Donnell on ABC: 'Radical Christians' no different than murderous radical MuslimsNeither O'Donnell nor ABC has apologizedDear lolministries@netzero.net,ABC's Rosie O'Donnell told a nationwide audience this week that "radical Christians" are the same as radical Muslims who piloted hijacked jetliners into New York's Twin Towers, who chop off the heads of individuals and who bomb innocent children in suicide attacks. O'Donnell made her comments as host of ABC's "The View." "Radical Christianity is just as threatening as radical Islam in a country like America where we have separation of church and state," O'Donnell said. She had been
 saying that America was attacked "not by a nation." She continued: "And as a result of the attack and the killing of 3,000 innocent people, we invaded two countries and killed innocent people." Even her liberal co-hosts were shocked by her comments. Co-host Joy Behar protested that Christians are not trying to impose mass murder on America. "This group (radical Muslims) is threatening to kill us." Replied O'Donnell: "No, but we are bombing innocent people in other countries. True or false?" O'Donnell was saying there is no difference between the radical Muslims who kill in the name of Allah and Bible-believing Christians who follow the teachings of Jesus. Neither O'Donnell nor ABC apologized for the comments. Had she made similar comments about minorities or homosexuals, there would have been an apology, and she would have probably been fired. The message from ABC is that bashing Christians is
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Re: [cia-drugs] Re: Iran's oil bourse to be launched

2006-09-17 Thread Vigilius Haufniensis
 If this happens, then the dollar will no longer be the world's
 reserve currency. Right now you must pay for your oil in dollars no
 matter which country you are. If the iranian oil bourse succeeds,
 then about three quarters of a trillion dollars that is held by
 foreign countries to buy oil will no longer be needed. The first
 countries to get rid of their petrodollars will be the luckiest,
 because as the transactions continue, the dollar will become less and
 less valuable in terms of its exchange rate. the result will be that
 our buying power for commodities will drop precipitipusly. our
 economic engine has depended quite a bit on the petrodollar and the
 strength it gave our currency. When that ends, america will just be
 another international beggar nation with a terrible debt jones and a
 very sophisticated protection racket run by the occupying government.


VMANN:  with a HUGEass influx of cash with which to repudiate their debt.




 As indvidual citizens, those who do not have the luxury of dealing in
 other currencies or commodities are going to see their purchasing
 power diminish at a rate that will simply take their breath away. we
 will come to know what it was like in 1990 when the soviet union
 collapsed. imagine being on a fixed income when it takes your total
 monthly income to buy a weeks worth of food.


VMANN:  yep, the american taxpayer, lender of last resort.
our labor is being confiscated to pay for the world's debt.  even with the 
repudiation of debt due to hyperinflation, the common working man will see 
his standard of living collapse.
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[cia-drugs] Re: Fletcher Prouty and Me

2006-09-17 Thread mark urban
prouty is the one standing to the woman's left (her right as you're 
looking at the picture) he's playing that slide trombone.--- In cia-
[EMAIL PROTECTED], muckblit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Two views:
 
 http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/photos/view/108f?
b=1m=so=0
 
 --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, muckblit muckblit@ wrote:
 
  I was cleaning a closet today and came across an old picture.
 
  It shows my first cousin once removed, my mother's mother's 
brother's
  son, my mother's first cousin, Web Maxson, and his orchestra, 
which
  included Fletcher Prouty.
 
  It's a dance orchestra like Guy Lombardi and Glenn Miller.
 
  The typed label says,WEB MAXSON and his orchestra featuring
 Miss.MARTHA
  and FLETCHER PROUTY.
 
  My pick for Prouty would be the clarinet player. Something about 
his
  eyes, compared to prouty.org
 
  I emailed Len Osanic at prouty.org and asked him which instrument
 Prouty
  played. I can't even recognize my cousin but he must be the one
 holding
  the baton. His name is on the bass drum and his initials on four
  clamshell stands that must conceal music sheets.
 
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Hello IPCUSA,
 I just watched a propaganda spiel on Myth Busters on tv against 
the notion there are implant or mind control victims in the US.
 Myth Busters in general are weak on science, and fairly strong on 
lab work. This production was noticably different than their usual 
work, and very weak and limited on lab and field work, and with 
nothing remotely scientific in the rpesentation. The hatchet job was 
relatively quick and cheaply produced, a poor quality shoprt 
rpesentation obviously biased from start to finish, versus looking for 
the truth or making any effort to find evidence claims of US mind 
control or unconsensual implantations might sometimes or often be 
true. 
   In typical large state propaganda, serious issues are avoided, 
and things which the state sees as weaknesses of the group being 
attacked are focused upon. For example, the nazis fixated on the 
semitic nose structure in their attacks on jews (and Cheech and Chong 
used the exact same nazi parody of a semitic nose in their movie which 
presented a low ethnic attack on Arabs, one Arab having had a camel 
wife before etc...). 
  This Myth Busters presentation was true to form in this sense 
for attacking minority groups with state sponsored or directed 
propaganda machines. As alledged victims of high technology human 
rights abuses in the US, we are in fact an opressed minority. This was 
the first major television propaganda attack upon us I am aware of, 
there have been some talk show and serial attacks already, but nothing 
like this I know of until now on US network television. I think this 
is even like an admission by US government criminals, that as a 
movement, we are starting to get into the big leagues politically in 
the US (and we are in the big league already in the former USSR). 
  Many fragments were pulled from various internet sources, 
and presented as being representative. All the common points the 
public (already well brain washed by the mass media from 1930's nazi 
radio to present), would see as indicating the victims movement is not 
credible. Whoever was behind this, has paid someone to do a lot of 
reading on the internet, to produce so many diverse claims which could 
be presented as not credible, and rolling them into one ball and 
painting us all with this ball of distortions and lies with one brush 
stroke. 
  One of the regulars on Myth Busters said his source was some 
male he found on the internet, the impression was given this single 
source was the source for the data of the program about the victims 
movement on the internet. There were victims movements before there 
was anything on the internet. The Moscow Zombies, even a few small 
groups in the US, and the large victims movement of the army radiation 
experiments. e US army radiation xperiments are now admitted to by the 
US government. Previous to this confession the army radiation 
experiment victims were given the same treatment we are given now, 
shared delusional complexes etc... 
   I do not believe any one internet source makes all the claims 
they gave in this Myth Busters production. In science one is supposed 
to reference ones sources, not just state UCLA library or the 
internet. Exactly because there can be intentional or accidental 
distortion, misrepresentation etc... 
  In this spiel they stated something like it must be true 
because it was on the internet, meaning it must not be true because 
it was on the internet. There is plenty of false information on the 
net, just as there is on tv. Much of the true information on the 
internet, is data and evidence the American people still are not 
allowed to see on American television. 
   The Russian Federation has now confessed to massive high 
technology human rights abuses under the Soviets, and passed laws 
against such abuses. Instead of getting the same consideration as our 
fellow victims from the USSR have been given, we are still supressed 
and now further vuictimised by televised propaganda campaigns 
presenting us all as being 

[cia-drugs] Re: Fletcher Prouty and Me

2006-09-17 Thread muckblit
Len Osanic told me that Prouty was a singer. That is a posed publicity
shot, with nobody playing drums and Prouty holding a trombone.

Once len told me Prouty was a singer, I was looking for guys with
different coats. The trombone player does not have a different coat like
the baton holder, the string bass player, or the clarinet player who has
a black instead of white vest. Len Osanic will be providing his two
cents or confirmation soon.

This photo does two things for me. One, it reminds me of what I have
been calling German window flowerbox syndrome, the way people had their
outward front and yet inwardly one might associate with Prouty and the
other desperately search for men like Prouty yet see the other playing
golf with scum on a longterm basis, never suspecting he would have a
friend like Prouty. And second, it reminds me that we can find each
other by the internet, but in those days there was no equivalent. Ham
radio was prevented from becoming an analog version of the internet.
Whichever way you turned you'd run into Mighty Wurlitzer cult
propagandists, Quig's judas goats.

-Bob D

--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, mark urban [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 prouty is the one standing to the woman's left (her right as you're
 looking at the picture) he's playing that slide trombone.--- In cia-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], muckblit muckblit@ wrote:
 
  Two views:
 
  http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/photos/view/108f?
 b=1m=so=0
 
  --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, muckblit muckblit@ wrote:
  
   I was cleaning a closet today and came across an old picture.
  
   It shows my first cousin once removed, my mother's mother's
 brother's
   son, my mother's first cousin, Web Maxson, and his orchestra,
 which
   included Fletcher Prouty.
  
   It's a dance orchestra like Guy Lombardi and Glenn Miller.
  
   The typed label says,WEB MAXSON and his orchestra featuring
  Miss.MARTHA
   and FLETCHER PROUTY.
  
   My pick for Prouty would be the clarinet player. Something about
 his
   eyes, compared to prouty.org
  
   I emailed Len Osanic at prouty.org and asked him which instrument
  Prouty
   played. I can't even recognize my cousin but he must be the one
  holding
   the baton. His name is on the bass drum and his initials on four
   clamshell stands that must conceal music sheets.
  
   -Bob D
  
 







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