Re: [cia-drugs] Re: Eric Holder re: Alleged 9/11 mastermind

2009-11-15 Thread Mary Hartman
IMO
 
9/11 was to a great extent, a psychological operation.  Our sense of security 
was undermined and so when the President took a proactive stance and loaded up 
battleships for the trek to Afghanistan, we felt psychologically more 
secure.   When we got over the shock of the big lie and started noticing 
the fact that the government's dots didn't connect, we did begin to stand up 
and scream.  But as always, we have been ignored and we will continue to be 
ignored because the accountability is too great for too many powerful people 
and we do not, historically, hold them to the same standard.    
 
 
 
 
--- On Sat, 11/14/09, John Stroebel john.stroe...@gmail.com wrote:


From: John Stroebel john.stroe...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] Re: Eric Holder re: Alleged 9/11 mastermind
To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 11:12 AM


  



One question:

Why do you suppose Americans never stood up and screamed for the truth?


On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:32 PM, ruxpert homepu...@comcast. net wrote:


  




and the '911Commission' was a misdirection/ Obstruction of Justice device, 
not even tasked with finding guilt/WhoDid911? 
 
The most immedieate prime crime of Obstruction of Justice Continues! 
 

Who Did 9/11?   We Need To Know!
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/LibertyBan dwagon/message/ 34638
 
 
;-) 
 
- Original Message - 
From: muckblit 
To: cia-dr...@yahoogrou ps.com 
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 8:13 PM
Subject: [cia-drugs] Re: Eric Holder re: Alleged 9/11 mastermind


I mean to say that last Tuesday, the DC sniper John Muhamed
was executed in Virginia as a typical patsy who dies to end
investigation of a larger government operation like JFK hit
and OKCbomb.

--- In cia-dr...@yahoogrou ps.com, muckblit muckb...@... wrote:
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/cia- drugs/message/ 47787

 The 911 Commission report conceals the fact that both Khalid Sheikh Mohamed 
 and Amed Omar Saeed Sheikh, KSM the mastermind and Saeed Sheikh the moneyman, 
 both, are Pakistani. Additionally, the report leaves out the fact that Sheikh 
 acted on orders from Pak intel chief Mahmud Amed
 
 http://www.google. com/search? q=saeed+sheikh+ pak+isi+mahmud
 
 KSM attacked the World Trade Center with a truck bomb years before 911.
 
 Daniel Hopsicker find more money coming from Lebanese, CIA, and Saudi sources 
 in Florida. Although helping stage 911 for CIA, in exchange for quid pro quo 
 of US liberating poppies from Afghan Taliban, Pakistan was not very involved 
 in 911. Thus giving KSM the death penalty for 911 when he was not giving 
 orders, while not prosecuting him for his role in FBI's WTCbomb false flag 
 operation, ends up being a diversion by Eric Holder, especially if KSM and 
 Sheikh are not being tried for the kidnapping and murder of Wall Street 
 Journal report Daniel Pearl.
 

http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/cia- drugs/message/ 47787









  

Re: [cia-drugs] Re: Eric Holder re: Alleged 9/11 mastermind

2009-11-15 Thread michael1
Below John S. asked:
“Why do you suppose Americans never stood up and screamed for the truth?”

I am in a coffee shop in Maine, USA.  I have wonderful friend who
describes himself as a ‘knuckledragger’- one who for 30 years had to go
all over the world and do the sick things that the CIA thought up.  Now
has the biggest heart I have ever seen.

We are talking but about nothing very ‘inside’, just current events talk
of day.  We are just some ‘old men’.  But two very young girls, about 20
years old, keep staring at us and whispering to themselves.  Felt strange.
 Then one comes over and asks where we are from.  We say, “From here-
Maine.”  She sort of frowns and goes back and starts whispering again. 
They keep listening and it is a bit uncomfortable.

Finally they come over.  They happen to be two foreign students that had
been at a photography studio in Rockport for the last six months.  They
were from opposite sides of the world, one from Beirut and the other from
Mexico City.

They said that our simple conversation amazed them as it was the, (quote),
“…First conversation that they had heard in six months.”  They said that
they had, “Stopped talking to Americans because talking to Americans is
useless- impossible.”  Why?  “Because Americans don’t know anything.”  
They blamed this on TV.

I have had a number of older people state the impossible: that they have
been seeing Chemtrails since jets first started flying.   Impossible they
started at the max about 15 years ago.  What would make someone say such a
thing?

Reasoning, of course.  They simply figure that if there was anything
unusual about chemtrails the TV would have told them.  ‘TV’ trumps
reality.

Baku is big talk everywhere except the USA.  This ain’t no backwater. 
Baku not only has its own subway system but it is almost half the size of
Boston’s subway system.  Why can’t you talk about this in America? 
Because few if any know where or even what Baku is.

Why will Baku become opium city?  How did one small mammal, the size of a
rabbit, make that happen?.
m



 IMO
  
 9/11 was to a great extent, a psychological operation.  Our sense of
 security was undermined and so when the President took a proactive stance
 and loaded up battleships for the trek to Afghanistan, we felt
 psychologically more secure.   When we got over the shock of the big
 lie and started noticing the fact that the government's dots didn't
 connect, we did begin to stand up and scream.  But as always, we have
 been ignored and we will continue to be ignored because the accountability
 is too great for too many powerful people and we do not, historically,
 hold them to the same standard.   
  
  
  
  
 --- On Sat, 11/14/09, John Stroebel john.stroe...@gmail.com wrote:


 From: John Stroebel john.stroe...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] Re: Eric Holder re: Alleged 9/11 mastermind
 To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 11:12 AM


  



 One question:

 Why do you suppose Americans never stood up and screamed for the truth?


 On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:32 PM, ruxpert homepu...@comcast. net wrote:


  




 and the '911Commission' was a misdirection/ Obstruction of Justice device,
 not even tasked with finding guilt/WhoDid911?
  
 The most immedieate prime crime of Obstruction of Justice Continues!
  

 Who Did 9/11?   We Need To Know!
 http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/LibertyBan dwagon/message/ 34638
  
  
 ;-)
  
 - Original Message -
 From: muckblit
 To: cia-dr...@yahoogrou ps.com
 Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 8:13 PM
 Subject: [cia-drugs] Re: Eric Holder re: Alleged 9/11 mastermind


 I mean to say that last Tuesday, the DC sniper John Muhamed
 was executed in Virginia as a typical patsy who dies to end
 investigation of a larger government operation like JFK hit
 and OKCbomb.

 --- In cia-dr...@yahoogrou ps.com, muckblit muckb...@... wrote:
 http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/cia- drugs/message/ 47787

 The 911 Commission report conceals the fact that both Khalid Sheikh
 Mohamed and Amed Omar Saeed Sheikh, KSM the mastermind and Saeed Sheikh
 the moneyman, both, are Pakistani. Additionally, the report leaves out
 the fact that Sheikh acted on orders from Pak intel chief Mahmud Amed

 http://www.google. com/search? q=saeed+sheikh+ pak+isi+mahmud

 KSM attacked the World Trade Center with a truck bomb years before 911.

 Daniel Hopsicker find more money coming from Lebanese, CIA, and Saudi
 sources in Florida. Although helping stage 911 for CIA, in exchange for
 quid pro quo of US liberating poppies from Afghan Taliban, Pakistan was
 not very involved in 911. Thus giving KSM the death penalty for 911 when
 he was not giving orders, while not prosecuting him for his role in
 FBI's WTCbomb false flag operation, ends up being a diversion by Eric
 Holder, especially if KSM and Sheikh are not being tried for the
 kidnapping and murder of Wall Street Journal report Daniel Pearl.


 http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/cia- 

Re: [cia-drugs] Evangelist Who Took Child `Brides' Is Sentenced to 175 Years - November 13, 20

2009-11-15 Thread John Stroebel
Hell is going to be a very overcrowded place.

On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 11:50 AM, smartn...@aol.com wrote:





 Evangelist Who Took Child `Brides' Is Sentenced to 175 Years - November 13,
 2009 TEXARKANA, Ark. (AP) - Tony Alamo, an evangelist, was sentenced Friday
 to 175 years in prison for taking under-age girls across state lines for
 sex. Mr. Alamo, 75, was convicted in July on a 10-count federal indictment.
 Judge Harry F. Barnes of Federal District Court said Mr. Alamo had abused
 his status as father figure and pastor and threatened the girls with the
 loss of their salvation.A woman Mr. Alamo took as a child bride at
 age 8 challenged him from the witness stand on Friday to submit himself to
 God's judgment. Reading from lined notebook paper, she said Mr. Alamo had
 torn her family apart and described how she shook uncontrollably when he
 first molested her. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/14/us/14alamo.html
  



[cia-drugs] Racial disparity: Ethics probes focus on Black lawmakers

2009-11-15 Thread nathaniel x vance
Racial disparity: Ethics probes focus on black lawmakers 
The House Ethics Committee is currently investigating seven African-American 
lawmakers — more than 15 percent of the total in the House. And an eighth black 
member, Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-Ill.), would be under investigation if the 
Justice Department hadn’t asked the committee to stand down. 
Not a single white lawmaker, not one, is currently the subject of a full-scale 
ethics committee probe; Ever heard of driving while black? Racism is not dead 
by a long shot!

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29055.html


The earthly  ENDTIME  of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS. 
salaam  akwaaba  jambo  ashogee



[cia-drugs] Britain, Australia saying sorry to child migrants AP 11/15/09 By Jill Lawless

2009-11-15 Thread smartnews

Britain, Australia saying sorry to child migrants AP  11/15/09 By  Jill 
Lawless LONDON - Britain and Australia are saying sorry to thousands of  
British children who were promised a better life overseas, only to suffer abuse 
 
and neglect thousands of miles from home.
The British government said Sunday  that Prime Minister Gordon Brown will 
apologize for 20th-century child migrant  programs that saw thousands of poor 
British children sent to Australia, Canada  and other former colonies until 
the 1960s. Many ended up in institutions or were  sent to work as farm 
laborers.
Brown's office said officials would consult  with representatives of the 
surviving children before making a formal apology  next year. The Australian 
government says Prime Minister Kevin Rudd will offer  his own apology Monday 
to the child migrants, as well as to the forgotten  Australians, children 
who suffered in state care during the last century. The  British government 
has estimated that a total of 150,000 British children may  have been 
shipped abroad under a variety of programs that operated between the  early 
19th 
century and 1967. 
A 2001 Australian report said that between  6,000 and 30,000 children from 
Britain and Malta, often taken from unmarried  mothers or impoverished 
families, were sent alone to Australia as migrants  during the 20th century. 
Some 
of the children were told, wrongly, that they were  orphans.Former 
Australian Prime Minister John Howard resisted calls to  apologize to 
institutionalized children and Australian Aborigines, arguing that  
contemporary 
Australians should not take responsibility for mistakes made by  past 
generations. Rudd reversed the policy after he was elected in 2007,  
apologizing to 
Aborigines for 200 years of injustice since European settlement.  At a ceremony 
Monday in Canberra attended by hundreds of former child migrants,  Rudd 
will apologize for his country's role in the child migrants program and say  
sorry to the 7,000 survivors of the program who still live in Australia. He 
also  will apologize to the Australian children - more than 500,000, according 
to a  2004 Australian Senate report - who were placed in foster homes, 
orphanages and  other institutions during the 20th century. Many were 
emotionally, physically  and sexually abused in state care.
_http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091115/ap_on_re_us/child_migrants_apology_ 
(http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091115/ap_on_re_us/child_migrants_apology) 



[cia-drugs] My online book about CIA drug trafficking

2009-11-15 Thread DickM

  It is a work in progress.  My mission was to tell people about US war
crimes, the CIA drug trafficking and support to torture and death
squads, the CIA killed JFK and other unknown US history.  How I got
interested in these subjects in a long story.



SOME UNKNOWN HISTORY OF THE  U.S.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SomeUnknownUSHistory/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SomeUnknownUSHistory/



I need your feedback, questions and comments about this work.



I have other interests as well



[cia-drugs] Re: Racial disparity: Ethics probes focus on Black lawmakers

2009-11-15 Thread muckblit
Like Mayor Marion Barry's entrapping hoe had some weed
or crack and lit it up so he smoked with her so he had
to go to prison. If he had been an arms dealer smoking
crack on a sixteen foot revolving waterbed with three
hoes and a DoD purchasing officer, no problem, we do
not even hear about the sixteen foot waterbed or the
hoes next to Aberdeen Proving Ground.

Short answer is yes I know. I'm too tired for the long
answer right now. Prince Jones, a full time student at
Howard U, with a job and a nice SUV his parents bought
him for school, was shot in the back through the rear
of his SUV after a cop road-raged because his shift
was about to end and Jones had not done anything wrong
yet. The cop had been following him for six hours. The
cop was from Maryland. He profiled a bad neighborhood
in DC, lots of black people i.e. Howard U area. Then
he profiled a new SUV with Maryland plates. Then he
profiled a young black male who got into the SUV and
drove away. Then he followed Prince Jones for six hours,
from DC to Maryland, Maryland to DC, DC to Alexandria
almost to Jones' girlfriend's house. Then the cop's shift
was about to be over so he shot Prince Jones through the
back of his car. Jones swerved into a front yard and
slumped over the steering wheel dead.

The cop tried to say that Jones had rammed his car
three two times and was about to ram him a third
time when the cop shot in self defense.

Do you know what's racist? The Washington Post published
a photo of the cop's car proving that the cop had lied
about being rammed, but then the paper did not say much
else after that. I think that dropping the issue is
sociopathically blood-dripping genocidally racist
like looking at a dead Emit Till and walking on by
like it's just a job to report one time and move on.
They aren't even alive at Washington Post.

Lots more.

-Bob

--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, nathaniel x vance broali...@... wrote:

 Racial disparity: Ethics probes focus on black lawmakers 
 The House Ethics Committee is currently investigating seven 
 African-American lawmakers †more than 15 percent of the total in the 
 House. And an eighth black member, Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-Ill.), would be 
 under investigation if the Justice Department hadn’t asked the committee to 
 stand down. 
 Not a single white lawmaker, not one, is currently the subject of a 
 full-scale ethics committee probe; Ever heard of driving while black? Racism 
 is not dead by a long shot!
 
 http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29055.html
 
 
 The earthly  ENDTIME  of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS. 
 salaam  akwaaba  jambo  ashogee





Re: [cia-drugs] Re: Eric Holder re: Alleged 9/11 mastermind

2009-11-15 Thread michael1
Bob,
Not sure who the 'they' is that you are referring to below.
Michael

 They speak better english, accent or no, and no doubt
 still read books in school. Maybe they have not had
 their brainwaves modified by tv and videogames and
 club drugs. You could not converse with Americans
 either for the same reasons.

 -Bob

 --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, micha...@... wrote:

 Below John S. asked:
 Why do you suppose Americans never stood up and screamed for the
 truth?

 I am in a coffee shop in Maine, USA.  I have wonderful friend who
 describes himself as a `knuckledragger'- one who for 30 years had to go
 all over the world and do the sick things that the CIA thought up.  Now
 has the biggest heart I have ever seen.

 We are talking but about nothing very `inside', just current events talk
 of day.  We are just some `old men'.  But two very young girls, about 20
 years old, keep staring at us and whispering to themselves.  Felt
 strange.
  Then one comes over and asks where we are from.  We say, From here-
 Maine.  She sort of frowns and goes back and starts whispering again.
 They keep listening and it is a bit uncomfortable.

 Finally they come over.  They happen to be two foreign students that had
 been at a photography studio in Rockport for the last six months.  They
 were from opposite sides of the world, one from Beirut and the other
 from
 Mexico City.

 They said that our simple conversation amazed them as it was the,
 (quote),
 …First conversation that they had heard in six months.  They said that
 they had, Stopped talking to Americans because talking to Americans is
 useless- impossible.  Why?  Because Americans don't know anything.
 They blamed this on TV.

 I have had a number of older people state the impossible: that they have
 been seeing Chemtrails since jets first started flying.   Impossible
 they
 started at the max about 15 years ago.  What would make someone say such
 a
 thing?

 Reasoning, of course.  They simply figure that if there was anything
 unusual about chemtrails the TV would have told them.  `TV' trumps
 reality.

 Baku is big talk everywhere except the USA.  This ain't no backwater.
 Baku not only has its own subway system but it is almost half the size
 of
 Boston's subway system.  Why can't you talk about this in America?
 Because few if any know where or even what Baku is.

 Why will Baku become opium city?  How did one small mammal, the size of
 a
 rabbit, make that happen?.
 m



  IMO
   
  9/11 was to a great extent, a psychological operation.  Our sense of
  security was undermined and so when the President took a proactive
 stance
  and loaded up battleships for the trek to Afghanistan, we felt
  psychologically more secure.   When we got over the shock of the
 big
  lie and started noticing the fact that the government's dots didn't
  connect, we did begin to stand up and scream.  But as always, we have
  been ignored and we will continue to be ignored because the
 accountability
  is too great for too many powerful people and we do not, historically,
  hold them to the same standard.   
   
   
   
   
  --- On Sat, 11/14/09, John Stroebel john.stroe...@... wrote:
 
 
  From: John Stroebel john.stroe...@...
  Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] Re: Eric Holder re: Alleged 9/11 mastermind
  To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 11:12 AM
 
 
   
 
 
 
  One question:
 
  Why do you suppose Americans never stood up and screamed for the
 truth?
 
 
  On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:32 PM, ruxpert homepu...@comcast. net
 wrote:
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
  and the '911Commission' was a misdirection/ Obstruction of Justice
 device,
  not even tasked with finding guilt/WhoDid911?
   
  The most immedieate prime crime of Obstruction of Justice Continues!
   
 
  Who Did 9/11?   We Need To Know!
  http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/LibertyBan dwagon/message/ 34638
   
   
  ;-)
   
  - Original Message -
  From: muckblit
  To: cia-dr...@yahoogrou ps.com
  Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 8:13 PM
  Subject: [cia-drugs] Re: Eric Holder re: Alleged 9/11 mastermind
 
 
  I mean to say that last Tuesday, the DC sniper John Muhamed
  was executed in Virginia as a typical patsy who dies to end
  investigation of a larger government operation like JFK hit
  and OKCbomb.
 
  --- In cia-dr...@yahoogrou ps.com, muckblit muckblit@ wrote:
  http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/cia- drugs/message/ 47787
 
  The 911 Commission report conceals the fact that both Khalid Sheikh
  Mohamed and Amed Omar Saeed Sheikh, KSM the mastermind and Saeed
 Sheikh
  the moneyman, both, are Pakistani. Additionally, the report leaves
 out
  the fact that Sheikh acted on orders from Pak intel chief Mahmud Amed
 
  http://www.google. com/search? q=saeed+sheikh+ pak+isi+mahmud
 
  KSM attacked the World Trade Center with a truck bomb years before
 911.
 
  Daniel Hopsicker find more money coming from Lebanese, CIA, and Saudi
  sources in Florida. Although helping stage 911 for 

[cia-drugs] Dissociation and Time Management, Kevin Annett at the Vatican

2009-11-15 Thread smartnews
Dissociation and Time Management, Kevin Annett at the  Vatican  
  

Lowell Routley's August 2009 transcribed conference presentation from  the 
Twelfth Annual Ritual Abuse, Secretive Organizations and Mind Control  
Conference. Lowell Routley is executive director of Heartland Trauma 
Initiative,  
created to serve survivors of extreme trauma. Over his 36 years of clinical 
 experience in the Midwest, Lowell has listened to survivors to find what 
works,  what doesn't, and why. Out of those observations, he developed The 
Core  Integrity Model. Through Heartland Trauma Initiative, Lowell provides 
training  and consultation for therapists and survivors to explore, 
understand, and  resolve impasses in healing. His topic is: Dissociation and 
Time  
Management.
_http://ritualabuse.us/smart-conference/2009-conference/dissociation-and-tim
e-management/_ 
(http://ritualabuse.us/smart-conference/2009-conference/dissociation-and-time-management/)
   

Kevin Annett at the Vatican, 11 oct 2009 
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbMlXzdZv44_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbMlXzdZv44)