[cia-drugs] Re: The Men Who Stare at Goats - book video

2009-11-18 Thread muckblit
There were almost two entirely different First Earth
Battalions. I don't know if the George Clooney movie
has landed on planet earth yet with the second concept
which is more familiar to me and more earthlings per
capita than the original concept of Channon. Here are
links to both. Guardian Angels is the other, and I can
think of other permutations. Did Bob Dylan say you have
to be somebody's cadre? I grew up in that era and learned
about the so-called low intensity fires like street drugs
and arbitrary poverty.

In DC area from 1977-1981 I did run into a green beret
guy who was doing this stuff. I forget his name. OSS
and CIA types(Cliveden Set, Blavatsky) were always
interested in ESP for an interrogation and wireless
communication technique though the remote viewing
emphasis was new. I have read material given to me by
Indonesians I know very well, and I have some of that
material in a file right here, in which Indonesian
shamans describe remote viewing journeys. The shamans
would show tin cans and claim that they brought them
back from hundreds of miles away. They said they
conjured the Japanese soldiers down real small like
ants in WW2 and then easily killed them with their
bare hands. They also said that their arts were for
themselves and my Indonesian friends impressed them
because they were not afraid(they were all murdered)
and they were spiritual for others. When Condie and
Jean Bertel and I were at DU together with a Puerto
Rican hoe from New York who was putting herself through
school and James Taylor had sex with a girl in the dorm
and played his guitar and sang on the grass next to the
student union and there was a straight-A student who
then went to Rice who was researching remote viewing
down there in Texas while Dub was mostly looking at
the ceiling if his eyes were open. There was a guy
named Saenz whose diploma was a kind of Paperclip
artifact, not for what he studied, and he worked
at Fort Belvoir--he gave me the Course in Miracles
books which Channon recommends in the OM-1 FE Bat
manual pdf. Those books were written by automatic
writing(dictation) by a young man in a motel as
voices describing themselves this way dictated to
him,we are Jesus we are legion we are many.

Channon and the goat watchers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Earth_Battalion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Channon
http://firstearthbattalion.org/
http://arcturus.org/earth_battalion.html 80's manual
http://arcturus.org/field_manual.pdf comic book

Now here is the other thing. Channon urges people to
do this that he calls angel, and call themselves FE Bat
angels:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardian_Angels
Sliwa also admitted that the New York City Chapter primarily patrolled the 
Restaurant Row section of midtown Manhattan,
except for occasional well-publicized patrols in other areas
and subway patrols to recruit new members

Contrast that with the Black Panthers, please!

About 1975 there was a retired green beret colonel,
Col. Ralph Puckett, who had a program with some mind
to win hearts and minds and train cadre to take back
their own neighborhoods in US inner cities. Black ghetto
kids went to camp near Camp David in the Catoctins and
hiked and rappelled and ate bugs with friends of mine.
I could run trails up there but could not keep up with
two Delta guys in Fort Valley so I just walked. One
of them swore I walked through a door though but I
know how to do things with those old locks. Nothing
special, so did my grandmother.

Keep in mind, though, that,there were no white bands
in LA yet, when there were already black RB(rhythm
and blues) bands in LA. Black Panthers? Maybe you
have heard of them. They wore black berets and they
fought the CIA irregulars on the streets and lost to
Ed Lansdale's heroin and cocaine though not so much
to CIA drug dealers and FBI COINTELOP as to being
physicall locked down in solitary confinement for
up to 20 years. You don't lock down a white man in
solitary confinement for a year or you create a
never-ending ACLU case that comes down your rabbit
hole and makes you personally famous as un-American,
but you can lock down a black man in solitary
confinement for as long as you like. But remember,
there were no white bands in LA yet, and F***
Y*** M*! Say Black Panthers, go on,
cite and recite.

I can't remember the name of the black retired
colonel who is credited with subduing the Circle
and the Avenue (DC) during the CIA Crack War. My dad's
CIA rosetta stone files have the CIA giving orders
to US military to target black leaders, black labor
organizers, trans-africa like transafricaforum.org,
and of course by degree and by implication then, the
Black Panthers, with any means up to and including
assassination using local police and military.

The same kind of thing is still going on. I heard
one of Newt's psyopers talk about cultivating
weaponized speech against community organizers,
characterizing Obama as merely a community organizer,
which is like some kind of 

[cia-drugs] Re: The Men Who Stare at Goats - book video

2009-11-18 Thread muckblit
Note the resemblance to what Bill Clinton's Georgetown U history prof, Carroll 
Quigley, calls the unanimous religious consensus of the
Rhodes and Milner group that they were the kingdom of god on earth (remember 
Clinton's New Covenant), that they could fulfil Jesus sermon on the mount, and 
that the RIIA-CFR-RhodesRoundtable founder Lionel Curtis' book Civitas Dei 
expressed that unanimous position.

http://firstearthbattalion.com/news-from-hq/earth-battalion-missions-confirmed.php

EARTH BATTALION MISSIONS CONFIRMEDPDF Print   E-mail
Wednesday, 14 October 2009

At a recent press conference Jim Channon confirmed the four missions of the 
proto-mythical First Earth Battalion. He stressed that the main reason the unit 
exists is to profess the positive visions for the future for Armed Forces of 
the Planet and those independent global members who aspire to the warrior monk 
archetype. He reviewed the following mission elements:

BE ALL YOU CAN BE the constant work of the battalion is the integral assembly 
of advanced human performance skills, the paranormal, and optimal states of 
being.

CREATE A PARADISE ON PLANET EARTH the deliberate acceptance of the idea that 
this earth is totally suitable for the creation of a paradise like world and 
that our only real obstacle is believing that idea and acting collectively upon 
it.

RECOVERING THE BIOSPHERE the realization of the plan called Operation Noble 
Steward where all the respective military forces on the planet conspire to the 
recovery of our most important long range resource ...our biosphere.

GLOBAL PUBLIC UNITY as a prerequisite for our final move into the next world we 
want to establish the need and value of a planetary citizenry that re-purposes 
all the institutions we have already created to operate in a progressive and 
sustainable global manner and achieves natural security for our planet.

After the press conference Colonel Channon cut a short you tube video called 
Combat of the Collective Conscience. Just go to you tube and search for Jim 
Channon. For other background on Jim check the wikipedia. See the new website 
created by the cav.

Recent successes have included improving the trauma recovery skills of Army 
medical units like the brain rangers in Irag, sharing psy op approach plans to 
enter villages w/o creating collateral damage, and improving the distance 
sensing skills for soldiers entering danger zones using on board psi tools. We 
can do war another way!

--Jim Channon

Here we are at the mind spa, conscience-free MK's in need of trauma
recovery in realtime or as close to it as Dr. Hasan the chief head
shrinking earth-first angel can bring us:

At Fort Hood, Tex., concern over the effects of combat stress led to the 
building of the Resiliency Campus, which offers features encompassing mental, 
physical and spiritual health. Above, New Age music plays for a soldier in the 
Spiritual Fitness Center.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/print/index_1.html

Yes, I'd say Fort Hood has heard of Col. Channon's new age trauma recovery 
skills, starting with thinking that being from somewhere
else(like Dr. Hasan in Fort Hood or US soldiers in Iraq) makes somebody 
evolutionary, higher, special, first, a decider for others who don't travel a 
lot and thus are not journeymen of rank over their own souls.

Channon's Soul Journeyman with authority to shoot into your car at stop signs 
in Iraq and not feel a damned thing in new age chapel:

those who strive after the truth and travel extensively are known as 
warriors...evolutionaries...angels...god...information is a part of learning 
but should not become the process...blend...reflect...observe...weaken

But remember,there were no white bands in LA yet. Were the real original deal 
a bunch of pretentious narcissistic meddlers? If we compare the music the FEB 
Four(First Earth Battalion's four missions on behalf of Quarters' 
Eye[Prescott's real inner platonic-darwinist CIA four quarters of JFK-MLK 
sniper's eye reticle and pyramid sides with eye]), the indigenous shamanic 
music does not have the narcissistic character of the MK music that sprang up 
under Laurel Canyon's mil intel spooky shadow. The indigenous shamanic music 
does not make people feel like first person action shooters to save the world. 
Web or youtube search on djembe, dimballa, djembe. I am not competent to 
complete the musical analysis, but there is something selfish, greedy, 
narcissistic about western pop that FEB advocates using to batter 
hostage-takers and like was used at Waco to help the government kill all the 
women and children instead of arresting David Koresh while jogging or in town 
alone and unarmed. In parallel, Sliwa's FEB-patterned Guardian Angels patrolled 
the restaurant district like private guards in DC around the new gentrified 
zone, but
Black Panthers worked to make the hood safer. What kind of music did
the Black Panthers like, before there were 

dear Bob, to what end? Re: [cia-drugs] Re: The Men Who Stare at Goats - book video

2009-11-18 Thread ruxpert

dear Bob,   to what end?

 what is the mission precisely?

;-) 

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Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 1:53 AM
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[cia-drugs] Quarters' Eye Click Buy Not Why

2009-11-18 Thread muckblit
Quarters' Eye, stare through the pyramid's four sides,
through the evolutionary god's eye, at a human like
JFK-MLK and see a goat or a raccoon in a bag:

http://neweartharmy.spreadshirt.com/

When you get good enough at that you can shoot into
civilian cars at stop signs where four streets come
together in Iraq, or drive tanks over cars in Panama.

First person consumerist couch potato action shooter,
click to buy, not to reason why.

Or how about a nice Russell Opium Trust(ROT) skel tee
shirt just to show you are down with Porter and The
Boys.

Halloween.

-Bob





[cia-drugs] You Can Take That To The Bank

2009-11-18 Thread ruxpert

Obama Promise To End The War, 2007 - You Can Take That To The Bank 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LsSppYxSHk







dear Bob, to what end? Re: [cia-drugs] Re: The Men Who Stare at Goats - book video

2009-11-18 Thread muckblit
I found that behind the sniper reticle with four quarters,
a symbol you can find in their comic book OM-1 manual, and
on their current tee shirts, and CIA's Quarters Eye which
reflects their German nazi clonage and Prescott Bush having
cultivated Hitler from the 1920s and the two German I's with
one turned sidewise to reflect Pyramid base and the other
vertical to say the pyramid eye elite, 911 consensus by
terror is all they know, four missions:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/47846
http://firstearthbattalion.com/news-from-hq/earth-battalion-missions-confirmed.php

Four missions: BE ALL YOU CAN BE...

CREATE A PARADISE ON PLANET EARTH...

RECOVERING THE BIOSPHERE...

GLOBAL PUBLIC UNITY...


And I keep saying,There were no white bands in LA yet, quoting Dave MacGown 
on the mil-intel Laurel Canyon mind greenhouse. Somebody else was there first. 
Currently no African country will allow ice people's AFRICOM to come down from 
Stuttgart because they don't need any white bands in LA to teach the little 
indians four spiritual laws how to care for their earth from inside a 
concentration camp(Nigerian pygmies and Kenyan Maasai and Thai-Burma Akha). 
There were already black RB bands in LA and they were not playing anything 
that would musically bother women and children at Waco before the government 
killed them all like FEB's LA white boy music did.

Sliwa's Guardian Angels guarded the gentrified area but Black Panthers lived in 
the ghetto and advocated before school breakfast for poor students and many 
other good and right things, but Quarters Eye (CIA,FBI) locked them down and 
then we hear of some other guys in berets talking about mimicking and weakening 
and playing first person action shooter music into the petri dish alleged to 
belong to Darwin's little evolutionary angels who get to be out on the street.

I think we're also talking about Temple of Set and Michael Aquino, West Point 
daycare, aren't we?

http://www.google.com/search?q=channon+aquino
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_nwo17.htm
Aquino are in  the First Earth Battalion...Col. Channon is in the Church of Set.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesgforum=103topic_id=236278mesg_id=244976

While CIA synthetic religion seems to borrow from indigenous
folk religion, the result is the strategic opposite. For
instance, Mary Hartman posts here about the way FEBat might
be expected to protect the earth from the indigenous people
and animals and plants. Channon himself says cover concrete
with plants, which is a stage we do not want to get to, nor
do the indigenous people who would be gone before the concrete
is poured. Nigerian pygmies and Kenyan Maasai have just been
moved to concentration camps by such high and mighty lord and
god evolutionaries supposedly protecting the earth. Matthew
McDaniel posts here regularly about first worlders protecting
the earth i.e. stealing land from the Akha tribe in SE Asia.

Against that backdrop this might seem like a minor point of
taste and opinion, but I find that the indigenous music and
shamanic religions being knocked off by Channon et al are
gentle in nature versus the raging consumerist narcissistic
mil intel music coming out of Dave MacGowan's Laurel Canyon
and being advocated by Channon FEBat for use as a weapon of
psycho terror at Waco. Actually that's the way American
advertising works, it accuses and terrorizes us until we
buy baptismal mouthwash and Barbie anorexia fetish idols.

And for counterpoint I have read of shaman schemes that tap
out the equivalent of financial resources in a semblance of
consumerism. Alaska coastal indians might have to buy a lot
of blankets and give them all to a shaman or give them all
away at a festival mostly serving the shaman. That emulates
consumerist bondage but I don't think the music would lift
the young men to go kill neighbors to save the world for
Darwin.

I doubt if Channon's standard Walmart rah-rah would be any
substitute for formal organization in Basque Mondragon
industrial co-op or US style trade unions. For that matter
neither would Obama's CHANGE rah-rah if all it means is
feel good while Obama signs off on Bush Bilderberger
bailouts of dictating dinosaurs. Sliwa's Guardian Angels
went to gentrified neighborhoods with their rah-rah, not
to the hood like Black Panthers did with daycare and
school breakfast and community policing(failed to get).

-Bob

--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, ruxpert homepu...@... wrote:

 
 dear Bob,   to what end?
 
  what is the mission precisely?
 
 ;-) 
 
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 Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 1:53 AM
 Subject: [cia-drugs] Re: The Men Who Stare at Goats - book video
 
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[cia-drugs] Re: You Can Take That To The Bank

2009-11-18 Thread muckblit
I guess that's what happened. Obama took that promise to
the bank and the banksters and they still haven't extorted
enough yet to end the war.

-Bob

--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, ruxpert homepu...@... wrote:

 
 Obama Promise To End The War, 2007 - You Can Take That To The Bank 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LsSppYxSHk
 
 
 
 
 





Re: dear Bob, to what end? Re: [cia-drugs] Re: The Men Who Stare at Goats - book video

2009-11-18 Thread ruxpert
Ok, but what is the mission more precisely?

so such  we can be held accountable to such, and so progress can be 
ascertained. 


- Original Message - 
From: muckblit 
To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:47 AM
Subject: dear Bob, to what end? Re: [cia-drugs] Re: The Men Who Stare at Goats 
- book video


I found that behind the sniper reticle with four quarters,
a symbol you can find in their comic book OM-1 manual, and
on their current tee shirts, and CIA's Quarters Eye which
reflects their German nazi clonage and Prescott Bush having
cultivated Hitler from the 1920s and the two German I's with
one turned sidewise to reflect Pyramid base and the other
vertical to say the pyramid eye elite, 911 consensus by
terror is all they know, four missions:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/47846
http://firstearthbattalion.com/news-from-hq/earth-battalion-missions-confirmed.php

Four missions: BE ALL YOU CAN BE...

CREATE A PARADISE ON PLANET EARTH...

RECOVERING THE BIOSPHERE...

GLOBAL PUBLIC UNITY...


And I keep saying,There were no white bands in LA yet, quoting Dave MacGown 
on the mil-intel Laurel Canyon mind greenhouse. Somebody else was there first. 
Currently no African country will allow ice people's AFRICOM to come down from 
Stuttgart because they don't need any white bands in LA to teach the little 
indians four spiritual laws how to care for their earth from inside a 
concentration camp(Nigerian pygmies and Kenyan Maasai and Thai-Burma Akha). 
There were already black RB bands in LA and they were not playing anything 
that would musically bother women and children at Waco before the government 
killed them all like FEB's LA white boy music did.

Sliwa's Guardian Angels guarded the gentrified area but Black Panthers lived in 
the ghetto and advocated before school breakfast for poor students and many 
other good and right things, but Quarters Eye (CIA,FBI) locked them down and 
then we hear of some other guys in berets talking about mimicking and weakening 
and playing first person action shooter music into the petri dish alleged to 
belong to Darwin's little evolutionary angels who get to be out on the street.

I think we're also talking about Temple of Set and Michael Aquino, West Point 
daycare, aren't we?

http://www.google.com/search?q=channon+aquino
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_nwo17.htm
Aquino are in  the First Earth Battalion...Col. Channon is in the Church of Set.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesgforum=103topic_id=236278mesg_id=244976

While CIA synthetic religion seems to borrow from indigenous
folk religion, the result is the strategic opposite. For
instance, Mary Hartman posts here about the way FEBat might
be expected to protect the earth from the indigenous people
and animals and plants. Channon himself says cover concrete
with plants, which is a stage we do not want to get to, nor
do the indigenous people who would be gone before the concrete
is poured. Nigerian pygmies and Kenyan Maasai have just been
moved to concentration camps by such high and mighty lord and
god evolutionaries supposedly protecting the earth. Matthew
McDaniel posts here regularly about first worlders protecting
the earth i.e. stealing land from the Akha tribe in SE Asia.

Against that backdrop this might seem like a minor point of
taste and opinion, but I find that the indigenous music and
shamanic religions being knocked off by Channon et al are
gentle in nature versus the raging consumerist narcissistic
mil intel music coming out of Dave MacGowan's Laurel Canyon
and being advocated by Channon FEBat for use as a weapon of
psycho terror at Waco. Actually that's the way American
advertising works, it accuses and terrorizes us until we
buy baptismal mouthwash and Barbie anorexia fetish idols.

And for counterpoint I have read of shaman schemes that tap
out the equivalent of financial resources in a semblance of
consumerism. Alaska coastal indians might have to buy a lot
of blankets and give them all to a shaman or give them all
away at a festival mostly serving the shaman. That emulates
consumerist bondage but I don't think the music would lift
the young men to go kill neighbors to save the world for
Darwin.

I doubt if Channon's standard Walmart rah-rah would be any
substitute for formal organization in Basque Mondragon
industrial co-op or US style trade unions. For that matter
neither would Obama's CHANGE rah-rah if all it means is
feel good while Obama signs off on Bush Bilderberger
bailouts of dictating dinosaurs. Sliwa's Guardian Angels
went to gentrified neighborhoods with their rah-rah, not
to the hood like Black Panthers did with daycare and
school breakfast and community policing(failed to get).

-Bob

--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, ruxpert homepu...@... wrote:

 
 dear Bob,   to what end?
 
  what is the mission precisely?
 
 ;-) 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: 

[cia-drugs] C.Sagan.GlobalHeat.Hysteria.Distraction.911

2009-11-18 Thread ruxpert

video:
Carl Sagan on Global Warming and Nuclear Weapons
http://blather.net/globaleyes/archives/2007/04/carl_sagan_on_global_warming_a.html

===

Al Gore sued by over 30,000 Scientists for Global Warming fraud John Coleman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6l1Cp3MYCQ



a..  


Hysteria is the real threat, not global warming
By Andrew Alexander


On the agenda: World leaders will be debating climate change at the G8 summit 
in Italy this week
Well, is it? There are two separate climate issues - the extent of global 
warming and the role that humanity plays in it. 
Some facts help. The famous 1996 report by the International Panel on Climate 
Change predicted serious global warming and blamed mankind. 
But, since then, the world has disobligingly stopped warming. And two years of 
global cooling erased nearly 30 years of recorded temperature rises. 
What was the worrying rise in temperature - so exciting for those whose 
computer models used the past to predict a grim future? 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1198188/Hysteria-real-threat-global-warming.html
http://anhonestclimatedebate.wordpress.com/2009/07/09/hysteria-is-the-real-threat-not-global-warming/



Distracted:
The Erosion of Attention and the Coming of the Dark Age
video:
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/id/214451

Cognitive-Dissonance: Recipe For Totalitarianism

WhoDid911?   We Need To Know! 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LibertyBandwagon/message/34638
ID Enemy

Why: War in Iraq and Afghanistan
Both wars were planned long before 9/11
The New American Century
http://rainbowwarrior2005.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/why-war-in-iraq-and-afghanistan/







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[cia-drugs] The Critical Unraveling of U.S. Society

2009-11-18 Thread ruxpert


The Critical Unraveling of U.S. Society
http://ampedstatus.com/the-critical-unraveling-of-us-society

[cia-drugs] Deformed babies in Fallujah, Iraq LETTER TO THE UNITED NATIONS (Iraqi Minister of Women's Affairs) - USA DU Weapons + Canadian Uranium

2009-11-18 Thread CAMPAIGN
Deformed babies in Fallujah
Iraq LETTER TO THE UNITED NATIONS Various undersigned

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*Fatima Ahmed was born in Fallujah with deformities that include two heads*

November 14, 2009




H.E. Dr. Ali Abdussalam Treki
President of the Sixty-fourth Session of the United Nations General Assembly
United Nations
New York, NY 10017

October 12th 2009

Your Excellency,

RE DEFORMED BABIES IN FALLUJAH

Young women in Fallujah in Iraq are terrified of having children because of
the increasing number of babies born grotesquely deformed, with no heads,
two heads, a single eye in their foreheads, scaly bodies or missing limbs.
In addition, young children in Fallujah are now experiencing hideous cancers
and leukaemias. These deformities are now well documented, for example in
television documentaries on SKY UK on September 1 2009, and on SKY UK June
2008. Our direct contact with doctors in Fallujah report that:

In September 2009, Fallujah General Hospital had 170 new born babies, 24% of
whom were dead within the first seven days, a staggering 75% of the dead
babies were classified as deformed.

This can be compared with data from the month of August in 2002 where there
were 530 new born babies of whom six were dead within the first seven days
and only one birth defect was reported.

Doctors in Fallujah have specifically pointed out that not only are they
witnessing unprecedented numbers of birth defects but premature births have
also considerably increased after 2003. But what is more alarming is that
doctors in Fallujah have said, a significant number of babies that do
survive begin to develop severe disabilities at a later stage.

As one of a number of doctors, scientists and those with deep concern for
Iraq, Dr Chris Burns-Cox, a British hospital physician, wrote a letter to
the Rt. Hon. Clare Short, M.P. asking about this situation. She wrote a
letter to the Rt. Hon.Douglas Alexander, M.P. the Secretary of State of the
Department for International Development (a post she had held before she
resigned on a matter of principle in May 2003 ) asking for clarification of
the position of deformed children in Fallujah.

She received a reply dated 3rd September 2009 (two days after the Sky TV
broadcast of 1st September 2009 ) from a junior minister, deputy to The
Secretary of State, Mr. Gareth Thomas MP, Duty Minister, Department for
International Development. In his reply he denies that there are more than
two or three deformed babies in Fallujah in a year and asserts that there
is, therefore, no problem. This is at wild variance with reports coming out
of Fallujah. One grave digger of a single cemetery is burying four to five
babies a day, most of which he says are deformed.

Clare Short passed us a copy of this letter. It bears a remarkable
similarity to three other written answers we have received over a four year
period, in regard to child health and the use of depleted uranium. All these
letters are based on lies and an aim to confuse the recipients. In her
autobiography Honorable Deception? Clare Short says The first instinct of
Number 10 (Downing Street) is to lie.

We regard the mendacity of Mr. Thomas's letter, and of the other letters we
have received, as extremely serious. These letters do not deal with minor
matters of corruption, or taxes, but do deal with the use of armed forces
and deadly weapons.

The use of certain weapons has tremendous repercussions. Iraq will become a
country, if it has not already done so, where it is advisable not to have
children. Other countries will watch what has happened in Iraq, and imitate
the Coalition Allies' total disregard of the United Nations Charter, The
Geneva, and Hague Conventions, and the Rome Statute of the International
Criminal Court. Some countries, such as Afghanistan, will also come to
experience the very long term damage to the environment, measured in
billions of years, and the devastating effect of depleted uranium and white
phosphorous munitions.

If, as we say in our letter to the Duty Minister of the Department for
International Development, the UK Government clearly does not know the
effects of the weapons it uses, nor, as a matter of policy, does it do body
counts, how can the UK Government judge whether it is conducting the wars
in Iraq and Afghanistan according to International Law, especially in terms
of proportionality and long term damage to the natural environment? How
can the UK know about the illegality of the weapons systems it sells on the
international market, such as the Storm Shadow missile, if the very
Department of the Government that is supposed to assess the deaths and
medical needs of children and adults in Iraq is not telling the truth.


[cia-drugs] Re: Deformed babies in Fallujah, Iraq LETTER TO THE UNITED NATIONS (Iraqi Minister of Women's Affairs) - USA DU Weapons + Canadian Uranium

2009-11-18 Thread muckblit
Millions of professionals, millions, have been chased out
of Iraq by the need of American super narcissist first
person action shooters to shove their heads farther up
their own asses than Charles Manson and his ostrich cult.

Unfortunately, the exodus of doctors from Iraq compounds
the suffering of children and their parents who have
been afflicted by first person action shooter games, and
their DU toxic waste.

Games. If American super players did not think they were
playing, they would not knowingly be doing this to real
people. Ruining hospitals like Rajiv Chandrasedaran writes
in Imperial Garden in the Emerald City, chasing doctors out
of Iraq, and causing these birth defects with DU, that is
what Col. Channon's First Earth me first battalion super
brainwashed first person action shooter narcissism is all
about, a cross between scientology and the Manson cult.

The ticking timebomb of Agent Orange birth defects in
Vietnam for civilians and in the US for military families
may have been the biggest factor motivating US weapon
mongers to take their profits and get out of Vietnam. They
also had to look at rising numbers of officer back shootings
and grenade fraggings, heroin addiction of soldiers, and the
total number of US casualties. Weapons mongers took their
profits and burned the St Louis military personnel archives
to destroy Agent Orange spraying evidence such as date and
location of particular personnel when AO was sprayed.


-Bob

Other Fatima image link might not work, try this, and
for video use link at bottom of message:

http://www.uruknet.info/pic.php?f=14fatima-15212335.jpg

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 Deformed babies in Fallujah
 Iraq LETTER TO THE UNITED NATIONS Various undersigned
 
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  * *
 *Fatima Ahmed was born in Fallujah with deformities that include two heads*
 
 November 14, 2009
 
 
 
 
 H.E. Dr. Ali Abdussalam Treki
 President of the Sixty-fourth Session of the United Nations General Assembly
 United Nations
 New York, NY 10017
 
 October 12th 2009
 
 Your Excellency,
 
 RE DEFORMED BABIES IN FALLUJAH
 
 Young women in Fallujah in Iraq are terrified of having children because of
 the increasing number of babies born grotesquely deformed, with no heads,
 two heads, a single eye in their foreheads, scaly bodies or missing limbs.
 In addition, young children in Fallujah are now experiencing hideous cancers
 and leukaemias. These deformities are now well documented, for example in
 television documentaries on SKY UK on September 1 2009, and on SKY UK June
 2008. Our direct contact with doctors in Fallujah report that:
 
 In September 2009, Fallujah General Hospital had 170 new born babies, 24% of
 whom were dead within the first seven days, a staggering 75% of the dead
 babies were classified as deformed.
 
 This can be compared with data from the month of August in 2002 where there
 were 530 new born babies of whom six were dead within the first seven days
 and only one birth defect was reported.
 
 Doctors in Fallujah have specifically pointed out that not only are they
 witnessing unprecedented numbers of birth defects but premature births have
 also considerably increased after 2003. But what is more alarming is that
 doctors in Fallujah have said, a significant number of babies that do
 survive begin to develop severe disabilities at a later stage.
 
 As one of a number of doctors, scientists and those with deep concern for
 Iraq, Dr Chris Burns-Cox, a British hospital physician, wrote a letter to
 the Rt. Hon. Clare Short, M.P. asking about this situation. She wrote a
 letter to the Rt. Hon.Douglas Alexander, M.P. the Secretary of State of the
 Department for International Development (a post she had held before she
 resigned on a matter of principle in May 2003 ) asking for clarification of
 the position of deformed children in Fallujah.
 
 She received a reply dated 3rd September 2009 (two days after the Sky TV
 broadcast of 1st September 2009 ) from a junior minister, deputy to The
 Secretary of State, Mr. Gareth Thomas MP, Duty Minister, Department for
 International Development. In his reply he denies that there are more than
 two or three deformed babies in Fallujah in a year and asserts that there
 is, therefore, no problem. This is at wild variance with reports coming out
 of Fallujah. One grave digger of a single cemetery is burying four to five
 babies a day, most of which he says are deformed.
 
 Clare Short passed us a copy of this letter. It bears a remarkable
 similarity to three other written answers we have received over a four year
 period, in regard to child health and the use of depleted uranium. All these
 letters are based on 

dear Bob, to what end? Re: [cia-drugs] Re: The Men Who Stare at Goats - book video

2009-11-18 Thread muckblit
Before we look at Channon's four missions, we ought to
notice that he has chosen to say first earth rather
than earth first. Earth first would be a clear mission
statement. Then we would have evolutionaries but earth
first, sort of a do no harm constraint. Instead a first
earth mission would not put earth or animals or people
first,do no harm at worst, but rather the evolutionaries
must be the first instance of an entire battalion of
earth angels.

One mission mentioned by Channon is that of creating
heaven on earth. Iraq had great medical care but then
the first earth angels set up heaven on earth and look
at the DU babies in Fallujah, with tens of thousands
of Iraqi doctors unavailable to help due to having
been chased into Jordan by earth angels. Is that
heaven? Ask the babies or their parents. They would
say no, but if you ask Charles Manson, he would say
yes.

-Bob

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/47853

--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, ruxpert homepu...@... wrote:

 Ok, but what is the mission more precisely?
 
 so such  we can be held accountable to such, and so progress can be 
 ascertained.



[cia-drugs] Re: The Critical Unraveling of U.S. Society

2009-11-18 Thread muckblit
Lots of typical stats are turning upside down. One is that now
it is not individuals who break down and fall into homelessnes,
but more that families fall into homelessness, and that through
no fault of their breadwinners.

I am seeing for myself that many individuals, unemcumbered by
families, can and do avoid homelessness by living in cars and
woodsheds and garages and storage rooms for minimal rent, and
scavenging a meager income. I know people who make enough
buying from garage sales and selling on craigslist to pay for
their gas and food, but they could not support another person.

Hummers are gone but spas are everywhere. Somebody has money
but they got rid of their visible Hummers (free by 100% first
year expensing if 6001 pound business vehicles thanks to Bush)
seemingly in exchange for pampering in privacy. The article
explains that the rich are getting far richer while the
middle class has really disappeared, if half of children are
on food stamps. I have previously read that one third of
children with jobs, WITH jobs, age 21-33, are living with
their parents(at the homeless shelter?!). That just begins
to look like Steinbeck's Grapes of Wrath, the movie, with
Jimmy Stewart, dustbowl, migrant worker camps.

-Bob

--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, ruxpert homepu...@... wrote:

 
 
 The Critical Unraveling of U.S. Society
 http://ampedstatus.com/the-critical-unraveling-of-us-society





Re: [cia-drugs] FW: The European BioWar outbreak and the censoring of it by the mainstream news media.

2009-11-18 Thread Mary Hartman
Translated from Russian, first published in English by Infowars Ireland
Based on autopsies, we have come to the conclusion: it’s not
pneumonia, but cardiopulmonary insufficiency and cardiogenic shock… The
virus enters directly into the lungs, there is bleeding… Antibiotics
should not be used…
Why do we have such a high mortality rate in the country? 
 Because people are going to pharmacies to get medicine instead
of going to their doctors to be treated… No it is not pneumonic plague.
It’s all nonsense… antibiotics do not help… Those with strong immune
systems will survive. People with weak immune systems will succumb to
the illness… Face Masks provide 30% extra protection. Wearing glasses
gives an additional 10% protection, that is 40%, because the virus
penetrates the mucose membranes.
The Head of the Chernivtsi regional forensic bureau, Professor
Victor Bachinsky M.D. makes a strong statement: all the victims of the
virus in Bukovina (22 persons aged 20 to 40 years) died not from
bilateral (double) pneumonia, as previously thought, but as a result of
viral distress syndrome, i.e. the total destruction of
the lungs. We caught up with Professor Bachinsky, to find out how he
came to this conclusion, and how people can protect themselves from
this disease.
Professor, you said earlier that the virus, from which many
people have died – is a mixture of types of parainfluenza and influenza
A/H1N1. How do you cure this disease?
The question of how to treat this virus is not up to me. I am a
pathologist. I just found out what it is and made an exact diagnosis.
It is important to provide the correct treatment based on diagnosis.
There are strict protocols and standards of treatment in medicine.
If a doctor treats a patient who dies, their relatives can make a
complaint that they were not treated properly (misdiagnosed). The
Ministry of Health has set the protocols and standards of treatment for
each diagnosis. If diagnosed correctly, the treatment should be correct…
In the Chernivtsi region 18 people have died. We studied all the
history and evidence from this disease, preclinical, clinical,
resuscitation. When we perform an autopsy organs and tissues have
histological studies (cell analysis) and we concluded that it was not
pneumonia, and has no relation to pneumonia whatsoever.
These results are the foundation to ensure that doctors who treat
this disease all over Ukraine, change their tactics and standards of
care.
Can this new virus be cured?
It depends on the immune system. If a person’s immune system is
strong, they will overcome it. There are people who carry this strain
of H1N1 and remain on their feet and don’t even realise they are sick.
A d v e r t i s e m e n tAntibiotics
definitely should not be taken. Antibiotics are the reason we have such
a high mortality and infection rate in this country, because people go
to the pharmacy, describe their symptoms to the pharmacist and ask for
drugs. They buy antibiotics, take them, this lowers their immune system
and as a result they become sick. If prescriptions were required to buy
these medications, like in other countries, this would not have
happened. It is the ability to buy antibiotics over the counter without
a prescription which has done so much harm to the State.
During autopsies, what did the lungs look like? Were they really black, which 
gave rise to so much talk of pulmonary plague?
No, they are not black… This is not pneumonic plague. It’s all
nonsense. Pneumonic plague has a very different morphology. We have,
for example, 60 thousand people who became sick and 23 have died. With
pulmonary plague, we would now have a mortality rate of 59 thousand…
This is a viral attack that destroys the lungs.
It turns out that not only in Bukovina, but also throughout the
Ukraine people did not die from pneumonia, but from this toxic strain?
Yes, It’s not pneumonia! This destruction of the lungs. This strain
is very toxic, and if the immune system is weak, there is bleeding in
the lungs. In the lungs there is a tiny structure – acinus, which looks
like a bunch of grapes. When you breathe, oxygen enters this tiny
“bunch of grapes” (  pulmonary alveoli ).
On the surface of the acinus are the capillaries, where red blood cells
saturate with oxygen and give blood, which supplies all tissues and
organs in the body.
And once the virus enters the lungs – hemorrhaging begins
immediately in the acinus. A continuous hemorrhage… It takes several
hours. In the blood fibrin is formed, and from it – giolinovaya
membrane, resembling a plastic bag. It envelops the acinus, and the
person breathes in oxygen, but it is not transferred to the tissues.
And people just gasp. There is a cardio-pulmonary insufficiency and
cardiogenic shock. People die of cardiogenic shock. And there is no
pneumonia. Pneumonia – an inflammation, which is treated with
antibiotics. Antibiotics cannot help at any stage. There should be
absolutely different treatment.
And how about Tamiflu – does it help?

Re: [cia-drugs] You Can Take That To The Bank

2009-11-18 Thread Mary Hartman
I guess the bank he said we could take that one to failed. 

--- On Wed, 11/18/09, ruxpert homepu...@comcast.net wrote:

From: ruxpert homepu...@comcast.net
Subject: [cia-drugs] You Can Take That To The Bank
To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 10:27 AM







 



  



  
  
  


 
Obama Promise To End The War, 2007 - You Can Take That To The Bank 
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[cia-drugs] Mohler Family sex abuse case

2009-11-18 Thread smartnews

_http://ritualabuse.us_ (http://ritualabuse.us/)   

describes crimes

Father Says Son Was Victim of Mohler Family -  Kathy Quinn Meagan Kelleher, 
Web Producer 
November 12, 2009 NDEPENDENCE, Mo.  - The Lafayette County Sheriff said 
they are actively searching for more people  who may have been sexually abused 
by the Mohler family men. Burrell Edward  Mohler Sr., 77, his brother and 
his four adult sons have been charged with  forcible sodomy and rape involving 
children under the age of 12.
In their  search for more victims, detectives have contacted people like 
Mark Young's son,  who was seven at the time of the alleged abuse. Young 
confirmed to police that  his son was abused by one of the Mohler men.
Mark Young said he and his  former wife, Pamela Robison, had a child 
together and that woman later married  Burrell Edward Mohler, Jr. Young said 
Robinson and his son would disappear for  days.
_http://www.fox4kc.com/wdaf-mohler-victim-young-111309,0,1950952.story_ 
(http://www.fox4kc.com/wdaf-mohler-victim-young-111309,0,1950952.story)   

UPDATE: Story of alleged 7th victim detailed on K.C.'s WDAF-TV  11/16/2009  
J. Noedel-Publisher - Kansas City's WDAF-TV (Fox4) has reported  that in 
1999, a Kansas City area man named Mark Young divorced his wife.   His ex-wife 
got custody of the former-couple's seven year-old son. The ex-wife  then 
married Burrell Ed Mohler Jr. Not long after, Mark Young met Burrell  Mohler 
Jr.'s own ex-wife.  Burrell's ex-wife -- whose own six children the  
Mohlers allegedly abused -- told Young that she had learned that Jr. was quite 
 
fond of (Young's) son and liked to sleep with him.  Young quickly sued for  
custody of his boy, alleging the child was being abusedThe probable 
cause  statement says that a granddaughter of Burrell Sr. remembers being raped 
by her  grandfather when she was six years old.  The now-grown woman and one 
of her  sisters also are quoted in the probable cause statement alleging 
that their  great uncle Darrel Mohler raped two of the girls when they were 
five and six  years old, and then their grandfather threatened to kill them if 
they were not  quiet.
The Associated Press has reported, The original complaint in the case  
includes allegations of bestiality, forcing children into fake marriages with  
relatives and making an 11-year-old have an abortion.
WDAF-TV, Channel 4, in  Kansas City is reporting that three of the accused 
child abusers were lay  ministers in an Independence, Mo. church.
A 77-year-old man and four of his  middle-aged sons in western Missouri 
were charged yesterday on multiple charges  of forcible sodomy and rape of 
children between 1988 and 1995.  According  to the Kansas City Star, a woman 
has 
told authorities of her and other children  being forced to line up on a 
bed on their knees and each being assaulted by the  men.
_http://www.ngnn.com/content/2009/nov/16/update-story-alleged-7th-victim-det
ailed-kcs-wdaf-tv_ 
(http://www.ngnn.com/content/2009/nov/16/update-story-alleged-7th-victim-detailed-kcs-wdaf-tv)
   

Daugther Say Mohler Jr. Forced Them To Kidnap, Kill Man
_http://www.kctv5.com/video/21637741/index.html_ 
(http://www.kctv5.com/video/21637741/index.html)   

Three-page sworn probable cause statement from one Cynthia L.  Schroer.  
_http://www.fox4kc.com/media/acrobat/2009-11/50484435.pdf_ 
(http://www.fox4kc.com/media/acrobat/2009-11/50484435.pdf)   

Group Asks Church to Help Other Potential Victims Come Forward Rob Low,  
edited by Jason Vaughn November 13, 2009 INDEPENDENCE, MO - Activists  
representing people who have been abused by clergy members traveled to the 
metro  
area on Friday to ask the Community of Christ Church to help bring other  
potential victims of a family accused of multiple counts of child rape.  
Three members of the Mohler family were lay ministers of the  
Independence-based church.
_http://www.fox4kc.com/wdaf-story-mohler-church-snap-111309,0,7506727.story_
 
(http://www.fox4kc.com/wdaf-story-mohler-church-snap-111309,0,7506727.story)   

Search in family sex abuse case also is for bodies, Lafayette sheriff  says 
By DONALD BRADLEY The Kansas City Star 11/11/09 LEXINGTON | Authorities are 
 searching a rural property near Bates City, Mo., looking for bodies, as 
well as  buried jars of written memories of anguish and horror allegedly left 
years ago  by sexually abused children. Indications are that an individual 
or individuals  were killed, Lafayette County Sheriff Kerrick Alumbaugh 
said Wednesday as law  enforcement personnel swarmed over a farm once owned by 
one of five men arrested  the day before. Investigators also expect that 
even more than the five alleged  victims of the decades-old mock weddings 
will come forward. Court documents  indicate the case involved rape, sodomy and 
bestiality, Alumbaugh said at his  Lexington office. Investigators see a 
strong possibility of more victims, he  said. Five members of the Mohler 
family, a 77-year-old father 

[cia-drugs] 2012: One Movies You’ve got to see!

2009-11-18 Thread nathaniel x vance
Dear Group,
I wanted to say more about the new 2012 movie, but I can do no better job than 
what you will find here below in this post. The update is taken from Mrs. Nancy 
Zetatalk.com website. 
Please, do yourselves a unique favor by taking the time watch these two videos, 
as there will explain in greater detail concerning the imminent Judgment Day 
Poleshift circa 2012 or even before! 

New ZT videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogTDFD4tR2s Zeta Report Last Weeks
*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CUrO3M7jqgfeature=sub   Magnetic Storm


The earthly  ENDTIME  of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS. 
salaam  akwaaba  jambo  ashogee



Re: [cia-drugs] FW: The European BioWar outbreak and the censoring of it by the mainstream news media.

2009-11-18 Thread John Stroebel
The first word was that this was introduced not by a plane but through a
H1N1 vaccine made by Baxter and sen t to Ukraine. But why would this be
done? To reduce world populations?

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Mary Hartman hartmanmar...@yahoo.comwrote:



 *Translated from Russian, first published in English by Infowars 
 Irelandhttp://info-wars.org/
 *

 Based on autopsies, we have come to the conclusion: it’s not pneumonia, but
 cardiopulmonary insufficiency and cardiogenic shock… The virus enters
 directly into the lungs, there is bleeding… Antibiotics should not be used…

 *Why do we have such a high mortality rate in the country? *

 * Because people are going to pharmacies to get medicine instead of going
 to their doctors to be treated… No it is not pneumonic plague. It’s all
 nonsense… antibiotics do not help… Those with strong immune systems will
 survive. People with weak immune systems will succumb to the illness… Face
 Masks provide 30% extra protection. Wearing glasses gives an additional 10%
 protection, that is 40%, because the virus penetrates the mucose membranes.
 *

 *The Head of the Chernivtsi regional forensic bureau, Professor Victor
 Bachinsky M.D. makes a strong statement: all the victims of the virus in
 Bukovina (22 persons aged 20 to 40 years) died not from bilateral (double)
 pneumonia, as previously thought, but as a result of viral distress
 syndrome, i.e. the total destruction of the lungs. We caught up with
 Professor Bachinsky, to find out how he came to this conclusion, and how
 people can protect themselves from this disease.*

 *Professor, you said earlier that the virus, from which many people have
 died – is a mixture of types of parainfluenza and influenza A/H1N1. How do
 you cure this disease?*

 The question of how to treat this virus is not up to me. I am a
 pathologist. I just found out what it is and made an exact diagnosis. It is
 important to provide the correct treatment based on diagnosis.

 There are strict protocols and standards of treatment in medicine. If a
 doctor treats a patient who dies, their relatives can make a complaint that
 they were not treated properly (misdiagnosed). The Ministry of Health has
 set the protocols and standards of treatment for each diagnosis. If
 diagnosed correctly, the treatment should be correct…

 In the Chernivtsi region 18 people have died. We studied all the history
 and evidence from this disease, preclinical, clinical, resuscitation. When
 we perform an autopsy organs and tissues have histological studies (cell
 analysis) and we concluded that it was not pneumonia, and has no relation to
 pneumonia whatsoever.

 These results are the foundation to ensure that doctors who treat this
 disease all over Ukraine, change their tactics and standards of care.

 *Can this new virus be cured?*

 It depends on the immune system. If a person’s immune system is strong,
 they will overcome it. There are people who carry this strain of H1N1 and
 remain on their feet and don’t even realise they are sick.

- A d v e r t i s e m e n t
- [image: 
 efoods]http://www.efoodsdirect.com/holidaySpecial.html?aid=13adid=14

 Antibiotics definitely should not be taken. Antibiotics are the reason we
 have such a high mortality and infection rate in this country, because
 people go to the pharmacy, describe their symptoms to the pharmacist and ask
 for drugs. They buy antibiotics, take them, this lowers their immune system
 and as a result they become sick. If prescriptions were required to buy
 these medications, like in other countries, this would not have happened. It
 is the ability to buy antibiotics over the counter without a prescription
 which has done so much harm to the State.

 *During autopsies, what did the lungs look like? Were they really black,
 which gave rise to so much talk of pulmonary plague?*

 No, they are not black… This is not pneumonic plague. It’s all nonsense.
 Pneumonic plague has a very different morphology. We have, for example, 60
 thousand people who became sick and 23 have died. With pulmonary plague, we
 would now have a mortality rate of 59 thousand…

 This is a viral attack that destroys the lungs.

 *It turns out that not only in Bukovina, but also throughout the Ukraine
 people did not die from pneumonia, but from this toxic strain?*

 Yes, It’s not pneumonia! This destruction of the lungs. This strain is very
 toxic, and if the immune system is weak, there is bleeding in the lungs. In
 the lungs there is a tiny structure – acinus, which looks like a bunch of
 grapes. When you breathe, oxygen enters this tiny “bunch of grapes” *(  
 pulmonary
 alveoli http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alveoli )*. On the surface of the
 acinus are the capillaries, where red blood cells saturate with oxygen and
 give blood, which supplies all tissues and organs in the body.

 And once the virus enters the lungs – hemorrhaging begins immediately in
 the acinus. A continuous hemorrhage… It takes several hours. In the 

[cia-drugs] FW: Soceite Generale - Get Ready For Global Collapse

2009-11-18 Thread Kris Millegan

-- Forwarded Message
 From: Sardar sar...@spiritone.com
 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:12:38 -0800
 To: Sardar recon1968br...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Soceite Generale - Get Ready For Global Collapse
 
 Soceite Generale - Get Ready
 For Global Collapse
 By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
 11-18-9
 
 
 
 Explosion of debt: Japan's public debt could reach as much as 270pc
 of GDP in the next two years. A bullet train is pictured speeding past Mount
 Fuji in Fuji city, west of Tokyo Photo: Reuters
 
 
 In a report entitled Worst-case debt scenario, the bank's asset
 team said state rescue packages over the last year have merely transferred
 private liabilities onto sagging sovereign shoulders, creating a fresh set
 of problems.
 
 Overall debt is still far too high in almost all rich economies as a
 share of GDP (350pc in the US), whether public or private. It must be
 reduced by the hard slog of deleveraging, for years.
 
 As yet, nobody can say with any certainty whether we have in fact
 escaped the prospect of a global economic collapse, said the 68-page
 report, headed by asset chief Daniel Fermon. It is an exploration of the
 dangers, not a forecast.
 
 Under the French bank's Bear Case scenario, the dollar would slide
 further and global equities would retest the March lows. Property prices
 would tumble again. Oil would fall back to $50 in 2010.
 
 Governments have already shot their fiscal bolts. Even without fresh
 spending, public debt would explode within two years to 105pc of GDP in the
 UK, 125pc in the US and the eurozone, and 270pc in Japan. Worldwide state
 debt would reach $45 trillion, up two-and-a-half times in a decade.
 
 (UK figures look low because debt started from a low base. Mr Ferman
 said the UK would converge with Europe at 130pc of GDP by 2015 under the
 bear case).
 
 The underlying debt burden is greater than it was after the Second
 World War, when nominal levels looked similar. Ageing populations will make
 it harder to erode debt through growth. High public debt looks entirely
 unsustainable in the long run. We have almost reached a point of no return
 for government debt, it said.
 
 Inflating debt away might be seen by some governments as a lesser of
 evils.
 
 If so, gold would go up, and up, and up as the only safe haven
 from fiat paper money. Private debt is also crippling. Even if the US
 savings rate stabilises at 7pc, and all of it is used to pay down debt, it
 will still take nine years for households to reduce debt/income ratios to
 the safe levels of the 1980s.
 
 The bank said the current crisis displays compelling similarities
 with Japan during its Lost Decade (or two), with a big difference: Japan was
 able to stay afloat by exporting into a robust global economy and by letting
 the yen fall. It is not possible for half the world to pursue this strategy
 at the same time.
 
 SocGen advises bears to sell the dollar and to short cyclical
 equities such as technology, auto, and travel to avoid being caught in the
 inherent deflationary spiral. Emerging markets would not be spared.
 Paradoxically, they are more leveraged to the US growth than Wall Street
 itself. Farm commodities would hold up well, led by sugar.
 
 Mr Fermon said junk bonds would lose 31pc of their value in 2010
 alone. However, sovereign bonds would generate turbo-charged returns
 mimicking the secular slide in yields seen in Japan as the slump ground on.
 At one point Japan's 10-year yield dropped to 0.40pc. The Fed would hold
 down yields by purchasing more bonds. The European Central Bank would do
 less, for political reasons.
 
 SocGen's case for buying sovereign bonds is controversial. A number
 of funds doubt whether the Japan scenario will be repeated, not least
 because Tokyo itself may be on the cusp of a debt compound crisis.
 
 Mr Fermon said his report had electrified clients on both sides of
 the Atlantic. Everybody wants to know what the impact will be. A lot of
 hedge funds and bankers are worried, he said.
 
 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/6599281/Societe-
 Generale-tells-clients-how-to-prepare-for-global-collapse.html
 
 
 
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Re: dear Bob, to what end? Re: [cia-drugs] Re: The Men Who Stare at Goats - book video

2009-11-18 Thread ruxpert
Sounds great, ... what might the first step be in making progress?

Thanks

- Original Message - 
From: muckblit 
To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 5:13 PM
Subject: dear Bob, to what end? Re: [cia-drugs] Re: The Men Who Stare at Goats 
- book video


Before we look at Channon's four missions, we ought to
notice that he has chosen to say first earth rather
than earth first. Earth first would be a clear mission
statement. Then we would have evolutionaries but earth
first, sort of a do no harm constraint. Instead a first
earth mission would not put earth or animals or people
first,do no harm at worst, but rather the evolutionaries
must be the first instance of an entire battalion of
earth angels.

One mission mentioned by Channon is that of creating
heaven on earth. Iraq had great medical care but then
the first earth angels set up heaven on earth and look
at the DU babies in Fallujah, with tens of thousands
of Iraqi doctors unavailable to help due to having
been chased into Jordan by earth angels. Is that
heaven? Ask the babies or their parents. They would
say no, but if you ask Charles Manson, he would say
yes.

-Bob

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/47853

--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, ruxpert homepu...@... wrote:

 Ok, but what is the mission more precisely?
 
 so such  we can be held accountable to such, and so progress can be 
 ascertained.





Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/

Please let us stay on topic and be civil. 

OM
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[cia-drugs] CIA Secret 'Torture' Prison Found at Fancy Horseback Riding Academy18 Nov 2009

2009-11-18 Thread ruxpert




Citizens For Legitimate Government
18 Nov 2009
http://www.legitgov.org


Breaking: Judge: Corps' negligence caused Katrina flooding 18 Nov 2009 A 
federal judge ruled Wednesday that the Army Corps of Engineers' failure to 
properly maintain a navigation channel led to massive flooding in Hurricane 
Katrina. U.S. District Judge Stanwood Duval sided with five residents and one 
business who argued the Army Corps' shoddy oversight of the Mississippi 
River-Gulf Outlet led to the flooding of New Orleans' Lower Ninth Ward and 
neighboring St. Bernard Parish. Duval awarded the plaintiffs $720,000, or about 
$170,000 each, but the decision could eventually make the government vulnerable 
to a much larger payout. 
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iIy4xSxWMklRKM-ko9fXC2sW3_XgD9C2ANT01

CIA Secret 'Torture' Prison Found at Fancy Horseback Riding Academy --ABC News 
Finds the Location of a Black Site for Alleged Terrorists in Lithuania 18 Nov 
2009 The CIA built one of its secret European prisons inside an exclusive 
riding academy outside Vilnius, Lithuania, a current Lithuanian government 
official and a former U.S. intelligence official told ABC News this week. Where 
affluent Lithuanians once rode show horses and sipped coffee at a café, the CIA 
installed a concrete structure where it could use harsh tactics torture to 
interrogate up to eight suspected 'al-Qaeda' terrorists at a time. The 
activities in that prison were illegal, said human rights researcher John 
Sifton. They included various forms of torture, including sleep deprivation, 
forced standing, painful stress positions. 

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/cia-secret-prison-found/story?id=9115978

MI5 and MI6 given go ahead for secret hearings into abuse 18 Nov 2009 MI5 and 
MI6 have been given permission to hold hearings behind closed doors into their 
alleged complicity in the treatment of seven former detainees in Guantanamo 
Bay. A High Court judge ruled there was no reason in law why closed hearings 
should not be used in the damages case, even though it had never been used in 
such a case before. The judge said the closed material procedure entitled the 
defendants not to disclose matters to the claimants or their lawyers where 
disclosure would be contrary to the interests of national security, the 
international relations of the UK or in any other circumstances where it was 
likely to harm the public interest. 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6600344/MI5-and-MI6-given-go-ahead-for-secret-hearings-into-abuse.html

Secret evidence blow hits Guantanamo seven --Agencies such as MI5 and MI6 could 
rely on secret evidence in their defence 18 Nov 2009 Britain’s security 
services should be able to withhold evidence from claimants in civil court 
cases, the High Court ruled today. In a decision which could have far-reaching 
legal implications, Mr Justice Silber ruled that agencies such as MI5 and MI6 
could rely on secret evidence in their defence, if disclosing the evidence 
would compromise national security. 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/secret-evidence-blow-hits-guantanamo-seven-1822987.html


Guantanamo won't close by January: Obama 18 Nov 2009 U.S. President Barack 
Obama has acknowledged that he will not be able to meet his pledge to close the 
controversial detention centre at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, by January. One of 
Obama's first acts as president was to sign an executive order to close the 
facility within a year, a move he said would restore his country’s moral high 
ground. But his plan ran into roadblocks... The U.S. Senate in May voted 90-6 
against allowing funds requested to shut down the facility or use the funds to 
transfer prisoners to U.S. soil. 

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/11/18/obama-guantanamo.html

Obama suggests 9/11 suspect will get death penalty 18 Nov 2009 U.S. President 
Barack Obama suggested on Wednesday the self-professed mastermind of the Sept. 
11, 2001, attacks [Dick Cheney?] would be convicted and put to death, but later 
said he was not trying to prejudge the trial. Speaking in television interviews 
while traveling in Asia, Obama acknowledged he would miss his Jan. 22 deadline 
to close the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where Khalid Sheikh 
Mohammed is now held, but said he believed it would be shut next year. 

http://www.reuters.com/article/companyNewsAndPR/idUSN1847521320091118

Republican senators, Holder clash over terrorism trials 18 Nov 2009 Republican 
senators confronted Attorney General Eric Holder on Wednesday over his decision 
to try the Sept. 11 terrorism suspects in civilian court. President Barack 
Obama, meanwhile, [insanely] expressed certainty that they'll be found guilty 
and executed. Holder didn't go as far as Obama did in his testimony to the 
Senate Judiciary Committee, though the nation's top prosecutor said he was 
confident that justice would be delivered to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and other 
accused plotters of the Sept.