[cia-drugs] Re: Global child porn ring uncovered in Austria
--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, palcat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone please enlighten me as to how something like goes on? How can ANYone do these things to children? I just cannot get my brain around it. It makes me physically ill, and very sad.. I don't need a lengthy explanation, just a clue. Point me in the right direction, I'll do the work. What's the starting point? What entitles people to do this? Why do they want to? Are they, demonic beings or something? I don't know, I'm not into religious stuff but if there were such things as demons, this would seem like proof IMHO. Angie Think of a contract written in the blood and dna of the partners and a murder victim. Shared knowledge of horrors, it's a contract written in blood to incriminate the partners, then kept secret, the secrecy of which is all they EVER mean when they use the euphemism national security. The partners need ink drawn from the veins of babies--- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/msearch?query=apec+fbi http://www.google.com/search?q=seattle+apec+fbi In November 2006, right after I made a hundred Macacas 4 George Allen signs read Macacas 411 George Allen, a tramp who said his name was John Sherman said,I am just a parrot. We tried to give you a job but you are not gay or a thief. That was at IHOP, and all the signs were between there and the old(not now) ONI heroin and cocaine sandbox and blackmail shop across the street from Flint Hill Prep, which at that time in the 1970's was owned by a CIA man. Around the corner, and a few years prior, ANDCO's CEO, source of South American hallucinogens for CIA brats. Interesting neighborhood. Gay or a thief means the equivalent of either videotaped in pedophile acts with kidnapped children, or, on probation for crimes such as embezzling, drugs, dumping toxic waste, tax evasion, i.e. a thief. No job for Bob, because I was not Max Well smart enough to get caught. John Sherman wanted George Allen to win, but I said James Webb went to Annapolis, like it. John said Webb was smart, as in Max Well smart, but I didn't care because I just wanted people to throw the bums out, the APEC pedos and Auschwitz Sax Goatburgermeisters. It's a why not. Vigilius Haufniensis wrote: - Original Message - From: Judith.Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 2:37 PM Subject: [RM-COUNSEL] Global child porn ring uncovered in Austria Global child porn ring uncovered in Austria 8th February 2007, 12:15 WST At least 2360 people in 77 countries are suspected of trying to download videos of young children being sexually abused and even raped, according to authorities who intercepted the illicit material on a web server in Austria. The FBI was investigating about 600 of the suspects in the United States, Austrian Interior Minister Guenther Platter said. German authorities were following leads on another 400 people, France was looking into more than 100 others, and 23 suspects were Austrians, he said. Platter said the videos included images that showed the worst kind of child sexual abuse. Girls could be seen being raped, and you could also hear screams, said Harald Gremel, an Austrian police expert on Internet crime who headed the investigation, adding that the children were aged 14 and under. One can explicitly see sexual acts with children, Gremel said. No Austrian suspects were yet in custody, authorities said, adding that they shared their information with law enforcement agencies in other countries in the hope suspects could be investigated. Gremel said he could not provide details about investigations outside Austria, but noted that cooperation with Russian authorities had intensified over the past two weeks. He said the investigation began in July, when a man working for a Vienna-based Internet file hosting service approached authorities at the Interior Ministry to say he noticed the pornographic material during a routine check. Gremel said the link to the videos was posted on a Russian website, which is no longer in operation. The videos, hosted on the Austrian server, were freely accessible, but users had to pay $US89 ($115) by credit card to access more pornographic material in a members only area on the Russian website. Within 24 hours, the man recorded more than 8000 hits from 2361 computer IP addresses in 77 countries, ranging from Algeria to South Africa, Gremel told reporters. He said the man blocked access to the videos while recording the IP addresses of people who continued to try to download the material, and gave the details to authorities. In Austria, the possession of pornographic material showing children 14 and under is punishable by up to two years in prison. Possession of material showing children aged 14-18 carries a maximum one-year sentence. I believe an increase in penalties is necessary, Platter said. Germany's Federal Criminal Office said
[cia-drugs] Re: Global child porn ring uncovered in Austria
Another example would be Warren Buffett at Offut AFB. He lives, he knows 3000 people died including children, he gives his fortune away in his will to buy back his soul from Porter Mephistopheles Goss and Richard Armitage and the Bush family. Shared knowledge of horrors, a contract written in blood, he can't give back stolen lives. Pedophilia on video, warned to stay away from 911, McVeigh's first judge warned to stay home when the OKC daycare center was blown away across the street. -Bob --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, muckblit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, palcat palcat@ wrote: Can anyone please enlighten me as to how something like goes on? How can ANYone do these things to children? I just cannot get my brain around it. It makes me physically ill, and very sad.. I don't need a lengthy explanation, just a clue. Point me in the right direction, I'll do the work. What's the starting point? What entitles people to do this? Why do they want to? Are they, demonic beings or something? I don't know, I'm not into religious stuff but if there were such things as demons, this would seem like proof IMHO. Angie Think of a contract written in the blood and dna of the partners and a murder victim. Shared knowledge of horrors, it's a contract written in blood to incriminate the partners, then kept secret, the secrecy of which is all they EVER mean when they use the euphemism national security. The partners need ink drawn from the veins of babies--- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/msearch?query=apec+fbi http://www.google.com/search?q=seattle+apec+fbi In November 2006, right after I made a hundred Macacas 4 George Allen signs read Macacas 411 George Allen, a tramp who said his name was John Sherman said,I am just a parrot. We tried to give you a job but you are not gay or a thief. That was at IHOP, and all the signs were between there and the old(not now) ONI heroin and cocaine sandbox and blackmail shop across the street from Flint Hill Prep, which at that time in the 1970's was owned by a CIA man. Around the corner, and a few years prior, ANDCO's CEO, source of South American hallucinogens for CIA brats. Interesting neighborhood. Gay or a thief means the equivalent of either videotaped in pedophile acts with kidnapped children, or, on probation for crimes such as embezzling, drugs, dumping toxic waste, tax evasion, i.e. a thief. No job for Bob, because I was not Max Well smart enough to get caught. John Sherman wanted George Allen to win, but I said James Webb went to Annapolis, like it. John said Webb was smart, as in Max Well smart, but I didn't care because I just wanted people to throw the bums out, the APEC pedos and Auschwitz Sax Goatburgermeisters. It's a why not. Vigilius Haufniensis wrote: - Original Message - From: Judith.Hawkins judith.hawkins@ To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 2:37 PM Subject: [RM-COUNSEL] Global child porn ring uncovered in Austria Global child porn ring uncovered in Austria 8th February 2007, 12:15 WST At least 2360 people in 77 countries are suspected of trying to download videos of young children being sexually abused and even raped, according to authorities who intercepted the illicit material on a web server in Austria. The FBI was investigating about 600 of the suspects in the United States, Austrian Interior Minister Guenther Platter said. German authorities were following leads on another 400 people, France was looking into more than 100 others, and 23 suspects were Austrians, he said. Platter said the videos included images that showed the worst kind of child sexual abuse. Girls could be seen being raped, and you could also hear screams, said Harald Gremel, an Austrian police expert on Internet crime who headed the investigation, adding that the children were aged 14 and under. One can explicitly see sexual acts with children, Gremel said. No Austrian suspects were yet in custody, authorities said, adding that they shared their information with law enforcement agencies in other countries in the hope suspects could be investigated. Gremel said he could not provide details about investigations outside Austria, but noted that cooperation with Russian authorities had intensified over the past two weeks. He said the investigation began in July, when a man working for a Vienna-based Internet file hosting service approached authorities at the Interior Ministry to say he noticed the pornographic material during a routine check. Gremel said the link to the videos was posted on a Russian website, which is no longer in operation. The videos, hosted on the Austrian server, were freely accessible, but users had to pay $US89 ($115) by credit card to access more pornographic material in a members only area on the Russian website.
[cia-drugs] Re: Global child porn ring uncovered in Austria
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/msearch?query=apec+fbi http://www.google.com/search?q=seattle+apec+fbi --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Judith.Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 2:37 PM Subject: [RM-COUNSEL] Global child porn ring uncovered in Austria Global child porn ring uncovered in Austria 8th February 2007, 12:15 WST At least 2360 people in 77 countries are suspected of trying to download videos of young children being sexually abused and even raped, according to authorities who intercepted the illicit material on a web server in Austria. The FBI was investigating about 600 of the suspects in the United States, Austrian Interior Minister Guenther Platter said. German authorities were following leads on another 400 people, France was looking into more than 100 others, and 23 suspects were Austrians, he said. Platter said the videos included images that showed the worst kind of child sexual abuse. Girls could be seen being raped, and you could also hear screams, said Harald Gremel, an Austrian police expert on Internet crime who headed the investigation, adding that the children were aged 14 and under. One can explicitly see sexual acts with children, Gremel said. No Austrian suspects were yet in custody, authorities said, adding that they shared their information with law enforcement agencies in other countries in the hope suspects could be investigated. Gremel said he could not provide details about investigations outside Austria, but noted that cooperation with Russian authorities had intensified over the past two weeks. He said the investigation began in July, when a man working for a Vienna-based Internet file hosting service approached authorities at the Interior Ministry to say he noticed the pornographic material during a routine check. Gremel said the link to the videos was posted on a Russian website, which is no longer in operation. The videos, hosted on the Austrian server, were freely accessible, but users had to pay $US89 ($115) by credit card to access more pornographic material in a members only area on the Russian website. Within 24 hours, the man recorded more than 8000 hits from 2361 computer IP addresses in 77 countries, ranging from Algeria to South Africa, Gremel told reporters. He said the man blocked access to the videos while recording the IP addresses of people who continued to try to download the material, and gave the details to authorities. In Austria, the possession of pornographic material showing children 14 and under is punishable by up to two years in prison. Possession of material showing children aged 14-18 carries a maximum one-year sentence. I believe an increase in penalties is necessary, Platter said. Germany's Federal Criminal Office said about 200 suspects linked to the case in Germany had been identified and were facing prosecution. Gremel said that in Austria, the youngest person implicated was 17 and the oldest was 69, with the suspects ranging from students to retirees. He said investigators believed the videos - which included images of girls and boys up to age 14 - were made in Eastern Europe and uploaded to the site from somewhere in Britain. However, Gremel noted that one girl also looked Asian. The large amount of video material available on the Internet made it more difficult for authorities to track it down, Gremel said. In Austria, authorities seized 31 PCs, seven laptops, 1232 DVDs and CDs, 1428 diskettes and 213 video cassettes, Gremel said. Police displayed some of the seized material at yesterday's news conference. Austrian authorities have yet to evaluate a total of about 8 terabytes (8000 gigabytes) of space on hard disks, DVDs, CDs and diskettes seized in Austria Gremel said. Of the Austrian suspects, 14 allegedly have admitted they downloaded the videos, Gremel said. Finding and stamping out such content is needle-in-a-haystack work, said Carole Theriault, a security consultant with Sophos in London. Theriault noted that the perpetrators could send footage over peer-to-peer networks or computers that had been surreptitiously coopted by Internet worms. You could have this stuff on innocent machines and the owner wouldn't even know it, Theriault said. It can get ugly and complicated, absolutely. Even the fact that viewers had to pay for some material would not necessarily increase the chances of detection. While the major credit card carriers have programs to verify the validity of merchants in their networks, dozens of Internet payment processors use other methods to discreetly ferry money around, said Mike Petitti, senior vice-president of marketing at AmbironTrustWave, a data security company. One way involves automated cheque-clearing services that route money from chequing accounts and avoid the credit
