[cia-drugs] Re: how the federal government is able to track those who are prescribed anti-de

2007-05-02 Thread muckblit
--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Once a person comes under judicial
  supervision they can be forced to take psych meds indefinitely. It's
  usually a life sentence to a chemical strait jacket.
 
 
 VMANN:  good thing they didnt have that at the time of EZRA POUND.
 
 
 
 Evidently the VA
  Tech shooter was induced to voluntarily sign himself into a mental
  hospital after the arson, so he was not listed in the police database
  for involuntary incarceration in a mental hospital.
  -Bob
 
 
 VMANN:  well i wouldnt expect a normal person to get treated the
same was as 
 that dude.
 vigilius haufniensis

Do you mean TEFLON? Most people who lit their dorm on fire would be
arrested and expelled, or put in a mental hospital and expelled. Cho
evidently was given a plea bargain where he could voluntarily commit
himself, in exchange for not being expelled. Great deal for all
concerned, huh?

Except for football players, who like to throw refrigerators out tenth
floor windows, all in fun.

Yes, it's possible that Ezra Pound could have been induced to commit
homicide or suicide by chemical strait jacket. That's actually the
restraining aspect, that when one tries to break out of the chem
jacket, they get suicidal homicidal.

An interesting twist on guilty until proven guilty is that the police
can line up an infinite number of police psychologists, and the first
one that is willing to sign off on incarceration proves guilt.
Guilty until proven guilty, in other words. The only hope there is
with the psychiatrist at the institution, because your lawyer shows up
in the same Mercedes as the judge for a quick hearing after the
orderlies cornhole you a few times and they juice you with a few
injections.

A friend of mine was transferred out of DC Jail after he got arrested
for protesting the Vietnam War. He was transferred to a CIA MKULTRA
clinic on Connecticut Ave, and shot up with 10,000 units of Thorazine,
a new world record, he was told. That pretty much began a history of
mental illness, during which he got to know Hinckley and several
whistleblowers; who apparently knew too much.

The mental health system was the first route around habeus corpus.
Diesel therapy in the prison system was next, which they actually did
to Congressman Hanson of Idaho. Now, abandon hope all ye who enter here.



[cia-drugs] Re: how the federal government is able to track those who are prescribed anti-de

2007-05-01 Thread muckblit
Today's newspaper said that the VA Tech shooter had not been
involuntarily incarcerated, so he could purchase firearms without his
name coming up on a search. I think it is the same with the ABC news
search coming up negative, it's the same search, one for those who
have been apprehended by police as could have happened when the VA
Tech shooter lit a fire in the dorm, and then if the person is
involuntarily incarcerated in a mental hospital after a determination
by a police psychologist that the person should be handed off. Then a
judge sees them at some point, taking recommendations from a resident
psychiatrist at the institution. Once a person comes under judicial
supervision they can be forced to take psych meds indefinitely. It's
usually a life sentence to a chemical strait jacket. Evidently the VA
Tech shooter was induced to voluntarily sign himself into a mental
hospital after the arson, so he was not listed in the police database
for involuntary incarceration in a mental hospital.

-Bob


--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://waynemadsenreport.com/
 THE NEWS
 
 April 27-29, 2007 -- In a follow-up to our April 25 story about how  
 the federal government is able to track those who are prescribed anti- 
 depressant controlled drugs, we have learned that the capability to  
 track such drug users is far more widespread than first reported. ABC  
 News first admitted that senior federal sources revealed that federal  
 records were checked to find out about Virginia Tech killer Cho Seung  
 Hui's history of anti-depressant use -- the search having turned up  
 negative results. ABC News then reversed itself and said there was no  
 such tracking system.
 
 Under Progressive Community Treatment (PACT) laws, individuals  
 enrolled in mental health programs are automatically reported to  
 authorities when they either fail to renew their anti-depressant  
 prescriptions or fail to keep a mental health appointment. The first  
 such mental health reporting program, called the Texas Medication  
 Algorithm Program (TMAP), was initiated in Texas by then-Governor  
 George W. Bush as a program to screen mental patients for mandatory  
 psychotropic drug use. According to our sources in the mental health  
 community, a private company, Comprehensive NeuroScience, Inc.,  
 tracks mental health patients and their psychotropic drug  
 prescriptions and, furthermore, law enforcement has access to this  
 data. Comprehensive NeuroScience (CNS) is a subsidiary of Big Pharma  
 firm Eli Lilly, a company that has close financial links to the Bush  
 family. As far as the federal government reporting to ABC News that  
 Cho had no records in their systems concerning anti-depressant use,  
 they failed to consider the records of CNS, which tracks those who  
 have prescriptions for anti-depressants. If Cho's drugs were legally  
 prescribed, our sources say the records would be held by the CNS  
 system. Patients who stop their anti-depressant drug use often become  
 extremely violent, a condition known as discontinuation syndrome.
 
 A number of school shooters were later discovered to be on legally- 
 prescribed psychotropic drugs. Columbine High School shooter Eric  
 Harris was on Luvox; Springfield, Oregon high school shooter Kip  
 Kinkle was on Prozac; and Conyers, Georgia shooter T. J. Solomon was  
 on Ritalin.
 
 Cho would have been tracked in his anti-depressant drug use if his  
 prescriptions were legal.





Re: [cia-drugs] Re: how the federal government is able to track those who are prescribed anti-de

2007-05-01 Thread Vigilius Haufniensis
 Once a person comes under judicial
 supervision they can be forced to take psych meds indefinitely. It's
 usually a life sentence to a chemical strait jacket.


VMANN:  good thing they didnt have that at the time of EZRA POUND.



Evidently the VA
 Tech shooter was induced to voluntarily sign himself into a mental
 hospital after the arson, so he was not listed in the police database
 for involuntary incarceration in a mental hospital.
 -Bob


VMANN:  well i wouldnt expect a normal person to get treated the same was as 
that dude.
vigilius haufniensis