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Ashland, Oregon August 25, 2006 'Wilderness' relocates to Venezeula By Robert Plain Ashland Daily Tidings Mike Ruppert is gone. He left not only Ashland, his new-found hometown, but has denied his allegiance to the United States with a reported exodus to Venezuela. "I left the United States with one large suitcase, my laptop, and a backpack," he wrote in an article on his Web site. "I left behind my precious library, most of my clothing, my personal possessions, my guns, and a house full of furniture. I brought with me less than eight thousand dollars in cash and gold to start the final segment of my life." Ruppert is the owner and editor of FromTheWilderness.com, a Web site dealing with Peak Oil and alternative Sept. 11 theories. Earlier this year he moved to Ashland and quickly drew a local following of supporters. Ruppert played a role in the Jackson County Sustainability Network, a group of some 200 local people who are trying to localize daily life and food production in the area. A few computers, along with boxes, are stacked up in the conference room of the From the Wilderness on Washington Street in Ashland. Photo by Orville Hector | Daily Tidings The former Los Angeles beat cop became an independent journalist to uncover government conspiracies. According to the article on his Web site, he says he has relocated to Venezuela, in part, because of a June burglary at his Ashland office. "It was the final outrage in almost three decades of attempts to silence my voice," he wrote on his Web site, ostensibly from the South American socialist nation. However, one of the founders of the local sustainability network says that his recent disappearance raises more questions about the man's mental well-being than any of the reasons Ruppert himself cites for his departure. "My feeling is he really needed a change in his life," said Michael Dawkins, a friend of Ruppert's who also facilitates a support group for depression and bi-polar disorder. "I think there is some depression or mania there." A strange burglary Ruppert's brief tenure in Ashland reached a bizarre climax with the burglary on June 26. Who committed the crime, and why, remains unsolved. Like the government conspiracy theories he often writes about, his thoughts on the burglary include twists, accusations and of course, government persecution. "There will be another time and another place, when I can and will say more about what happened," he wrote on his Web site. "Certain important events have yet to unfold, and I'm holding other key facts until the time is right. There are facts about the timing of the burglary that may eventually connect to events here in Venezuela." Ruppert said he believes a former employee, who he had fired weeks for the crime, burglarized his office. The former employee thinks she knows who committed the burglary. "I think he did that himself," she said. Ashland Police are keeping an open mind. Officers would not rule out Ruppert himself as a suspect. "At this point the case is still under investigation," Deputy Chief Rich Walsh said. "We're looking into both current and ex-employees." He added, "We'd like to find out what the purpose of moving to Venezuela was. It may have absolutely nothing to do with it but we would like to know." A troubled relationship When interviewed the morning after the alleged burglary, Ruppert said he suspected the employee of trying to use his shipping department to smuggle methamphetamine. "Her behavior was entirely consistent with meth addiction," he said, noting that some of his clues included highly erratic behavior, mood swings, poor dental hygiene and her slight figure. According to the woman, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because she fears Ruppert or his allies could try to hurt her, her accusation of sexual harassment caused her dismissal. She denies the meth accusation. "I don't know where he comes up with me being on methamphetamine," she said. Both parties admit to engaging in conduct typically deemed inappropriate at the workplace, such as conversations about sexual preferences and other flirtatious behavior. "I made the mistake of not realizing early-on that I was being harassed," the woman said in a statement made public by Victor Thorn, editor of WingTV.net. "For a while I was able just to 'laugh it off' when such comments came from Mr. Ruppert by telling myself it was just a harmless product of a patriarchal American society." Wing TV is a competing 9-11 conspiracy site. Both Thorn and Ruppert describe themselves as internet rivals. The woman said she did not provide the statement, which outlines the alleged harassment, but a friend of hers did. The friend, she said, is actually another former Ruppert staffer whom she met after leaving From The Wilderness. The morning after the alleged burglary, Ruppert discussed his troubled relationship with the former employee. Ruppert admitted to stripping down to his underpants and parading around the office while he and the woman were the only two there, an accusation the woman made in her statement. However, he said his motive wasn't sex but rather an attempt to uncover the woman's "con." "I was trying to make her show her hand because I knew she was up to something," he said while sitting in his office as Ashland Police surveyed the seven computers that were smashed with a sledge hammer in another room. "I needed to cross a line to make her show her hand." When asked if he thought this was a wise move on his part, he said, "I handled it the best way I know how. I may spend the rest of my life asking myself that question." Ruppert denies he harassed the woman, but said he was attracted to her. "Was I tempted? Sure. Did I think she was cute? Absolutely." He added, "Nothing she said rises to the level of sexual harassment. I'm a 55-year-old, divorced, healthy male who is lonely. Is that a crime?" The woman is afraid of Ruppert and fears he might harm her. She doesn't believe that he is in Venezuela. "I don't know what Ruppert is capable of," she said. "He's mental. My mom wants me to move out of town because she doesn't think I'm safe here." She said she has reported Ruppert to the state civil rights division for sexual harassment but has not pursued criminal charges. She says she is still considering a wrongful termination lawsuit against him. "I was the wrong female to mess with," she said. The government Ruppert's former employee is not the only one he blames for the alleged burglary. Ruppert also suspects the smashed computers might be related to a government plot to ruin him. "Other facts started to indicate government involvement," he wrote on his Web site. "As soon as I discovered the burglary I ran next door to the offices of the US Forest Service which shares the same building. I asked [an employee] if they had surveillance cameras covering the front of the building and our only parking lot. Reacting as though I was scaring her to death, she hastily replied, 'No'. I couldn't help but feel she already knew about the burglary." Indeed, government plots against him have been one of the most consistent aspects to his career as a writer. "My permanent exodus from the U.S. was actually ordained 30 years ""- to the month ""- before I left for good on July 18th, 2006," he wrote on his Web site. "It was thirty years ago that my then-fiancée, a career contract agent for the CIA, disclosed to me that "her people" were interested in giving a major boost to my career with LAPD if I would become involved with her "anti-terror" operations that involved "overlooking" (i.e. protecting) large drug shipments coming in while facilitating the movement of large quantities of firearms going out." According to LAPD documents, he was put on leave until he could pass a psychological evaluation. Staff writer Robert Plain can be reached at 482-3456 x. 226 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Comments: sounds like your typical 1% ashlander nutjob. mike hunt - ashland, or - August 25th, 3:53 PM "Like the government conspiracy theories he often writes about, his thoughts on the burglary include twists, accusations and of course, government persecution." "Like the corpoorate greedheads who pay his salary, staff writer Robert Plain ignores all the facts which do not support his biased attempts to discredit any and all opponents of the current administration." Farquaar - Ashland - August 25th, 3:53 PM Off his meds and on the lam! Gosh, maybe Comrade Hugo will send Mad Mike to Iran to team up with Pete Seda! They can trade stories about the repression and harassment threatening Ashland! (Hey, Farquaar, Robert Plain and I use our real names on what we write, why don't you?) Rich Kline - Ashland, OR - August 25th, 4:18 PM Wow Farquarr... "Robert Plain ignores the facts which do not support his biased attempts..." Did YOU read Ruppert's last article? That is an extraordinary example of that very thing! Give me a break! Jane - Eugene, OR - August 25th, 5:44 PM Ashland is a great place for a guy like Ruppert to thrive. There are so many disillusioned leftists living here that they will listen and support anything and anyone touting self rightous enviromental/anti- government ideas. Any discredit for Ruppert is his own doing. It sounds like he and his wanna be girlfriend were both smoking the bubble (meth pipe). River rain summer - Medford - August 25th, 6:15 PM Off his meds and on the lam! Gosh, maybe Comrade Hugo will send Mad Mike to Iran to team up with Pete Seda! They can trade stories about the repression and harassment threatening Ashland! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thinking errors. Pete Seda has lost his adopted country, his children, his business, because of government persecution. Whatever Mike Ruppert's doing, he's not avoiding a trip to Guantanamo, to slander Pete by association with Chavez is inane. Charles Carreon - Ashland - August 25th, 9:23 PM Farquaar,Ruppert,Pete Seda,Tidings Plain and Green are a just a few examples of the many very confused and hateful people that have come to Ashland to abuse the hospitatlity of a good community. Ever since the Tidings ownership changed,the new Medford owners seem to take delight extending front page status to the ravings of those whose mental stability raises more questions than their political views.The more whacked out a view or perspective,the more attention given the Tidings. Tabloid news. Kevin - Ashland,OR - August 26th, 3:37 AM Mike and Rich, Don't bother to let your self-serving useless quips to get in the way of substance, OK? In fact, just makes something up, pull it out of your warm dark spot, and post it up... it's easier. Phil Wilson - Ashland, OR - August 26th, 5:59 AM I read through Mr. Ruppert's 28,000 word "Farewell" letter. This letter makes much more sense if you look at it in the context of bipolar psychosis (i.e. the grandiose paranoia and persecutory delusions found in his Kristalnacht paragraphs). If Mr. Ruppert is suffering from mental illness then living without proper care is dangerous. Moving to a new country without such care is extremely dangerous. Hopefully his friends will ensure he gets the care he needs so he can live a safe, healthy life Kirk Evenson - Sioux Falls, South Dakota - August 26th, 8:53 AM Good riddance. Now if all the other Ashland wackjobs would follow suit and join him. Kool-aide is waiting. Gymjunkie - Medford, Or. - August 26th, 9:18 AM More and more I see our culture sliding deeper into the abyss. Whenever someone does a brave and difficult act, usually outside and against the mainstream of this culture's beliefs, they are maligned and discredited. So what if he was "difficult". Most of the people in the world worth knowing are difficult. I couldn't care less if he was "mental". I think we're all crazy for being proud these days, and our intolerance for anyone like Mike is just a bit too conservative and smacks of a mob. Thomas W. - Ashland, OR - August 26th, 10:37 AM Re Michael Ruppert's Ashland Break-In and Fleeing to Venezuela Everybody probably knows about this by now. The Ashland Daily Tidings did a front-page piece on it yesterday, slandering Michael Ruppert up one way and down another, doing the sleaziest thing a newspaper can ever do which is to blame the vandalism on the victim. SCUM, SCUM, SCUM! "There be dragons here in Ashland." Little Miss Innocent White City lady is obviously an agent, and the vandalism has U.S. government written all over it. It happened right in the middle of a huge Forest Service complex. Yes, right in the middle. First question: why would Michael Ruppert, who distrusted the government in every way, and rightly so, Tara Carreon - Ashland, OR - August 26th, 12:32 PM Mr. Carreon: Pete Seda fled the U.S, knowing Iran will not extradict him to answer legitimate questions and face criminal charges. Flight to avoid prosecution is evidence of guilt. Let him return to face his accusers he will have the presumption of innocence under the rule of law or hide under a hostile government's protection and suffer the consequences. He made his choice. (Sounds like Ruppert and Seda have similar mental problems, and have found similar ways to deal with them.) Rich Kline - Ashland, OR - August 26th, 1:02 PM Mike Ruppert is the most despicable human being I have ever had the misfortune to know and work for. To those who casually dismiss the short-comings of his personality (to put it lightly) I would invite them to spend just one month in his pressence. If his subscribers only knew the duplicity and the cosmocentrism that he exhibits they wouldn't believe a word he says or writes. He's a pig and I think it's very likely that he's the one who smashed up his office. ex-employee (praise god!) - Nowhere, USA - August 26th, 6:42 PM It's sad that so many people give money to that guy. I first met Mike Ruppert in a bar in Ashland. "A bar?" one might ask. "I thought he was an alcoholic." Right, he is, and a really ugly one, too. It's the opinion of more than a few people out here that Mike Ruppert moved to Oregon because he was under the impression that he would be recieved as a king. When that didn't happen (and as his business started to fail) he smashed his computers and fled the country. Good riddance. ursula - ashland, or - August 26th, 6:59 PM First question: why would Michael Ruppert, who distrusted the government in every way, and rightly so, position himself right in the middle of a huge Forest Service complex? The Forest Service is the government! Their agents can be easily infiltrated by other agents to make bad things happen. And there's almost the feeling that he was there among friends. We went and checked it out, yesterday. I would never have put my office there in a million years! And there he is, dancing around in his underwear in front of his employee right there in the middle of the U.S. Forest Service complex. Apparently, he wanted her to show her hand. Is that hand as in "hand" job? The guy is off his fu Tara Carreon - Ashland, OR - August 26th, 8:47 PM Coming from long-time intelligence family, he's a candidate for an infiltrator. He apparently has had big influences on goverrnment. He basically got CIA director Deutsch fired. That would definitely cause payback. But maybe it was staged as part of creating the beat-upon, abused Michael Ruppert image. How can he be an infiltrator if people don't think the government are after him, if he isn't truly expressing his own views, if he doesn't have connections and effects? But Peak Oil works perfectly for Dick Cheney. And the Illuminati are always willing to reveal some important information, like live-fly exercises on 9-11, in order to get a bigger result of making Michael Ruppert look like Tara Carreon - Ashland, OR - August 26th, 8:48 PM This forum is just free speech inhibitive. It only pretends to let you make comments. Where is the justification for the delay? That they have to be censored first? That is SO FREE! Tara Carreon - Ashland, OR - August 26th, 10:35 PM Yes, it does have to be checked. If everyone would read the disclaimer and follow the simple rules of decent behavior it would be different. And then there are the automated tooks filling these forms with tons of crap that must be removed. We are sorry it does take time to keep these up and activated as I am doing it now on my Sunday morning. Webmaster - Ashland, OR - August 27th, 9:52 AM Michael Ruppert had a huge responsibilitly to the 9-11 truth movement to act appropriately in all ways. They invited him to their forums. They sat next to him. They cited his works. And now he is making himself look shamed and fearful. He either is who he says he is, in which case he never smashed his own computers, or he isn't who he says he is, and we're talking about something completely different than the lone nutter theory. I've never trusted Michael with his LIHOP theory (let it happen on purpose). And I hated his peak oil thing. That is so Cheney. And why is he on a campaign against renewable energy resources? Tara Carreon - Ashland, OR - August 27th, 11:05 AM Yes, it does have to be checked. ************************************************* Actually, the paper has an absolute exemption from libel and other forms of "publisher liabiity" under 47 USC Sec. 230(c)(1), under Zeran v. AOL, 129 F.3d at 331, so there is no need to censor anything. (Although Zeran says you can, you don't need to.) No charge for the advice. Charles Carreon - Ashland, Oregon - August 27th, 12:04 PM Webmaster: Regarding your need to edit posts: Under 47 USC Sec 230(c) (1) and the interpretation in Zeran, 129 F.3d at 331, the Tidings has an absolute exemption from libel and other forms of "publisher liability," so it is free to allow people's posts to appear just as they are made, without editing. No charge for the advice, Mr. Bolsinger :) Charles Carreon - Ashland, OR - August 27th, 12:07 PM I have worked with Mike Ruppert since 1999. There is no one who better understands how difficult he can be to work with then me. Having also been a target of harassment, I also understand how targeting can cause the best person to behave unprofessionally. I work with Mike because he provides critical coverage of events that saves readers lives and assets. I write for From the Wilderness and am proud of it, Catherine Austin Fitts Catherine Austin Fits - Hickory Valley, TN - August 27th, 3:17 PM I interviewed Mike about two weeks before the breakin. He was not in a mood to wreck his own setup. He was proud of his achievements, ready to buy a house in Ashland, enjoying karaoke nights, and open about being, as he put it, "a lonely guy." To say he destroyed his owned machines is as preposterous as the FBI's claim that Judy Barry blew herself up. Shame on the Tidings for spreading the pure speculation of what they'd call a "disgruntled employee" were the subject other than Mike Ruppert. Charles Carreon - Ashland, Oregon - August 27th, 8:16 PM I want to know the history of the rental at the forest service complex. Michael, let's hear it. It makes no sense that this space would be available to outsiders, because that blows their entire security setup in the back. How did you get this space? Tara Carreon - Ashland, OR - August 28th, 1:26 AM All of the work Michael did on 9-11 is now discredited. It's as if it had a giant "X" on it saying, "DON'T GO THERE! MICHAEL RUPPERT IS A BOZO!" A quick out and in, the information being buried more effectively than if it had never been revealed, which it eventually would have. People don't just go insane like this. He obviously planned it. Tara Carreon - Ashland, OR - August 28th, 5:29 AM I still like Mike and I respect his work; despite any short-comings he may have as a person. I now believe that 911 was an inside job, and Ruppert's work, amongst others, helped convince me. I also know that when you begin to look behind the facade of what really goes on...the JFK assassination, the MLK assassination, U.S. foreign policy, and 911 it can make one very depressed and somewhat paranoid. Mike, wherever you are, you need to get to a meeting. Greg B in Chico. Greg B - Chico, Ca - August 28th, 8:08 AM The only thing I have to say is that sometimes people who are a little "out there" still may have remarkable insights. I am not saying Ruppert is necessarily bipolar, I am cautioning against the deduction that if he is a bit sick, he cannot possibly have been the source of important and accurate information. That is just too simplistic. Tony - Dallas,TX - August 28th, 8:17 AM When doing a Webb-job, please try to refrain from the old Stalinist way to "explain" anyone who doesn't hail government propaganda as the absolute truth as mentally ill. It's just so, well, transparent. People who know better are getting to see this stuff too you know. Albert Bakker - Veendam, GR - August 28th, 8:29 AM Looks like a Dick Cheney set-up. I wondered how they would try to destroy Ruppert after his book "Crossing the Rubicon" detailed the oil sector's blood profits, and their part in all these illegal wars. As for this employee? Most likely a plant, perhaps a Zionist fascist? Thoughts - Fort Worth, TX - August 28th, 9:09 AM "Let him return to face his accusers he will have the presumption of innocence under the rule of law" Rich Kline you are either delusional or blind. Can you say Gitmo bay? Presumption of innocence...how long have those folks been rotting away down there without charges or lawyers? Get a life Rich. Lee Donovan - Ottawa, Canada - August 28th, 9:11 AM If Mr. Ruppert is sick, and I'm skeptical, he is in the very best place for help, since Venezuela and Cuba have a reciprocal deal - cheap Venezuelan oil for Cuba in exchange for Cuban doctors for Venezuela. Both Cuba & Venezuela offer healthcare far superior to what we (at least, some of us) have in the US. Good luck, Mike. Lately, I have been seriously contemplating moving to Venezuela, too. Maybe I'll see you around. P.S. Anyone using the term "leftists" is suspect. Krish - Lafayette, IN - August 28th, 9:36 AM Is there a secret, cult meaning to "FTW," as in "F_ck the World"? Wikipedia wrote: FTW can refer to: "F_ck The World", a tattoo seen on bikers, prison inmates, and punks. In common use since the early 1970s." Do you take us as suckers? Is that "Save the Wilderness," as in Iggy's song: "God and his captains, they wanna pull the f_cking plug, they wanna pull the f_cking plug, and give the skies back to the birds and bugs"? Why does FTW use the CIA logo? Tara Carreon - Ashland, OR - August 28th, 9:38 AM Mike Ruppert's book "Crossing the Rubicon" put several hundred nails in the coffin of the hideous scum who did 9/11 -- Cheney and the NeoConMen (with possibly some help from the Mossad). There is no doubt whatsoever that he was monitored, harrassed, and "black-op"ed by confederates of the the above mentioned slime balls. His personality, positive or negative, is an irrelevant point. The book exposes the mass murdering scum who pulled the towers and launched the fascist takeover of America. Patriot - Washington, DC - August 28th, 10:10 AM I for one support Mr. Ruppert. This thing has CIA written all over it. This smear campaign itself, instigated at this time and without Mr. Ruppert present anymore to defend himself, is their standard procedure used to discredit. Also, please note that most people who are informed and have an understanding will prefer to post anonymously, or not post at all, for obvious reasons. This will therefore tend to support the anti- Ruppert perception that most people are in agreement with the smear. This is not true either. Anonymous - Somewhere, Texas - August 28th, 10:40 AM Michael Ruppert's article entitled "By the Light of a Burning Bridge," is an Illuminati pun for the Sun. "Pun for the sun" -- that rhymes! In it he says "My permanent exodus from the U.S. was actually ordained thirty years ago -- to the month." "Ordained" is a religious term meaning "to invest with priestly authority, confer holy orders, authorize as a rabbi, by fate ordained." All Illuminati concepts. Sounds like KULT to me. Tara Carreon - Ashland, OR - August 28th, 10:49 AM Of course Michael Ruppert is kinda neurotic and paranoid. Anyone who has a clue what's going on in the world feels like that sometimes. I can only imagine the stress on someone who spends their life investigating and reporting on the evil of their own government. That doesn't totally excuse his character flaws, but conversely, his character flaws don't invalidate the exhaustive research he's done into 9/11, CIA drug-smuggling, and other areas. Jeremy - Oakland, CA - August 28th, 11:41 AM Mike Ruppert is a master of the 'limited hangout' where just enough information is leaked in order to sway the reader into a belief of plausibility for the storyline. While I respect his analysis of the political machinations that led to the middle east imperial project we're on today, I find his views on 'Peak Oil' to be highly suspect. They read just like the Club of Rome, which is made of the same elitists Ruppert supposedly hates. You don't fight a system only to promote its worldviews. A. Magnus - Tampa Bay - August 28th, 11:55 AM A few points: 1)Michael Ruppert is an ingratiating individual and a bit off to be sure. Still, do not exclude all that has been put out from the web site. There is still much in the message, though not as much as he would have you think. 2) The rents sure are high in lilly-white liberal Ashland. What's up wid dat? Your CoOp has gone down the gentrified toilet too, though the tiles shine nowadays. Now wake up fools and focus on your fascistic gov't instead of one "lonely guy" who hit the road. Michael - Ithaca, NY - August 28th, 12:12 PM Ruppert is a disinformation artist who's usefulness has been used up. When he started saying that the 9/11 truth movement should just accept what happened and move on, it became quite clear what his true motivations really were. Disinformation and derailment. Just because he has written some books critical of the Bush's doesn't mean he is on OUR side of things. They send out guys like this to confuse everyone allowing them to get away with even more terrible things. It is a very old tactic. Getagrip - Canada - August 28th, 12:25 PM If A. Magnus was closer, I'd ask him out for a drink. Talk about fighting a system only to promote its worldviews: one of the headings in Michael's "Burning Sun Bridge" article is "The End of History." The End of History is part of Leo Straus's Nihilist revolution, an apology for terror, nicely detailed by Webster Tarpley in "9/11 Synthetic Terrorism Made in USA." The end of war is the end of history. Tara Carreon - Ashland, OR - August 28th, 12:25 PM Blaming the victim: very sleazy journalism. Ruppert's detractors can only dream of being as aware, intelligent, and informed as Mike. They'll never get there watching Fox News, or reading the Ashland Daily Tidings. Chesapeak Oil - Happy Camp, CA - August 28th, 1:06 PM Tara Carreon, you make me laugh out loud. Thanks for the entertainment. Uber Dude - Portland, OR - August 28th, 1:15 PM I just interviewed a lady at "Pathway Enterprises," CEO Jim Ormand. They moved into the forest service building across from FTW AFTER the terrorist attack. That's what it was, not a burglary. Three guys with sledgehammers smashing computers is terrorism. She knew nothing about Mike Ruppert. The whole building was forest service until they brought in FTW. Ranger stations don't take in tenants. There is no building directory outside. Pathway is a cover for the forest service rental story. Tara Carreon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Ashland, OR - August 28th, 1:31 PM Ruppert's slamming by a corporate-owned newspaper is expected. Local commentary doing the same in an upper-income demographic is equally typical. For the article to suggest he pounded his own hard drives because he may have exhibited bipolar behavior is deplorable. Denying the current administration's brown-shirt tactics is blindness. Vocal support of fascism to protect a stock portfolio seems a mite shortsighted. Chewbacca - Dantui - August 28th, 1:37 PM I have an important correction to point out: that Venezuela is a democracy and that it is not socialist. To conclude, the author of this article is obviously brainwashed, has not done his background work, and knows very little about widely-recognized forms of government. In sum, the author is lacking in education. Tom Lowe - Borrego Springs - August 28th, 2:02 PM I hope Mike finds some peace in Venezuela. I used to visit the US every year to go to Disneyland. Now that The US has suspended habeus corpus, the right to unreasonable search an seizure and most other rights and is shipping tourists to the middle east to be tortured I will no longer set foot on American soil. The US is just another 3rd world country now. I was wondering how long Mike would stay in that cesspool. Good luck Mike. I will look you up if I am in your area Chuck Beyer Chuck Beyer - Port Alberni BC Canada - August 28th, 2:11 PM I just called three ranger stations in the area. Adele, at the Butte Falls two ranger stations, when asked if they rented spaces replied "Oh, no!" Jim Good at the Prospect ranger station said no, and also that none of the forest service buildings he knows of have surveillance. A lady at Applegate ranger station said no, they don't rent spaces either. Tara Carreon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Ashland, OR - August 28th, 2:14 PM Pictures of the forest service complex and Michael's office can be seen here: http://www.american- buddha.com/911.abyliteburningbridgeruppert.htm . There are S.O.S. Alarm stickers all over now. I have a call into Ray to find out whether Mike had service then, if they got a call, if they reported it, what their response was. Tara Carreon - Ashland, OR - August 28th, 3:09 PM There are a lot of skeptics posting unfavourable comments about Mike Ruppert, many of whom I suspect have not read his articles or subscribed to his site. Tara Carreon I sense deep anger in you. The fact of the matter omitting anything about his character is that FTW has been accurate and written presciently about the unfolding of current global events related to Peak Oil. Ruppert has been well ahead of the game. Love him or loathe him FTW's analysis is very accurate. Deano ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - United Kingdom - August 28th, 3:11 PM Deano rhymes with Beano. "I sense deep anger in you." Oh, now I'm the psycho! FTW's analysis is NOT very accurate. When was it we were supposed to have imminent war with Columbia? There is no evidence for peak oil. It's the same old Malthusian bull -- limits to growth -- we've been hearing for ever from these neocons. Anything Michael has said, Webster Tarpley has said better. Michael doesn't talk about "physical evidence," because it can be refuted; whereas, conjecture is irrefutable! Tara Carreon - Ashland, OR - August 28th, 4:00 PM Yes, yes... I love the duplicity in these comments... This article is a smear? Did anyone read Ruppert's that triggered this one? It was employees/gov't officials/meth dealers that broke into the office. Did anyone notice he took the insurance money and ran? (Uh, hello!) How DARE Robert Plain exercise his free speech!? It's blasphemy! (Ruppert is OK though...) OF COURSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE POSTING unfavorable comments. There are many that aren't subscribing to Mike's story. Robby ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Sonoma, Ca - August 28th, 5:44 PM Leave a Comment: Your Name: City, State: Email: Comment: (Max 500 characters) Characters Left Display Email: Check if you wish to display your email Disclaimer: The Ashland Daily Tidings reserves the right to determine if a comment is to be published on the web or not. In order for ANY comment to be accepted, all of the above fields MUST be filled in. Incomplete form submissions will be DISCARDED! All comments are moderated and no abusive language or toned comments will be accepted for printing. 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