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"Carl Shoffler, one of the arresting police officers at Watergate, advised the Ervin Committee that in January 1973, a week before the Watergate trial began, Edmund Chung, an acquaintance, approached him about the arrests.Carl Shoffler and Edmund Chung had served together at the U.S. Army Security Agency in Warrenton, Virginia...Carl Shoffler did not have much to say about Watergate and seemed obsessed with the idea that Edmund Chung was a CIA agent. Edmund Chung denied being a CIA employee" There it is again, the word "security" in another Watergate source. Edmund Ching was another CIA "security" minion working in support of Howard Hunt, actual Watergate burglar and CIA "security" contractor, under command and control by high level CIA "security" officials named in well-known Watergate material quoted at our cia-drugs list archive. My father as the supervisor of qualifications analysis at CIA wrote that "security" took possession from him of fifty cartons of CIA Watergate- related personnel files that QAB had culled for the publically documented CIA "security" officials running all the known and unknown CIA "security" employees and contractors down to Hunt and Chung. Watergate was a CIA "security" matter the same as the Frank Olson affair. Nixon and Olson ruffled the chicken feathers of the Phoenix bird, Vietnam's Real Chickens Afraid of Life. Nixon said he wanted to read a newspaper, Helms refused. Nothing actually, but you can't tell that to Vietnam's Real Chickens Afraid of Life, afraid of Nixon reading a newspaper. You and I know everything in that newspaper, but Helms was askeered and freaked out, scared Nixon might succeed where JFK failed in being the first constitutional president in years. Keyword "security" leads you to the official level at CIA in Watergate, crosses over to Frank Olson and JFK assassination and Bay of Pigs because those and anthraxing the Reichstag and 911 and Florida election fraud 2000 and OKCbomb are all operations to secure the presidency. If Helms had just let Nixon read the same newspaper we read every day, but he had to wet his pants and freak out. Mistakes are good for sunshine though. Our newspaper says more because of fear working over the fear freaks and urging them to make mistakes. -Bob Dodds Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:01:19 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: After the Coup Richard Helms said that H.R. Haldeman mentioned an "investigation in Mexico." NIXON'S reelection committee laundered campaign contributions through Mexico. Richard Helms said H.R. Haldeman told him the Mexican money laundering operation "ran into" the Bay of Pigs. [Felix Rodriguez, Condor, Bebe Rebozo, Nicaragua] These events had occurred 11 years apart. In May 1979 Richard Helms was questioned about this meeting: Q. All right. Do you recall having a meeting on June 23, 1972, with Mr. Haldeman and Mr. Ehrlichman and Deputy Director Vernon Walters? A. You mean the meeting that came about as a result of the so-called 'smoking pistol?' Q. Something to that effect. A. Most publicized meeting in history. Q. Perhaps. Perhaps. A. Yeah, I do. I do recall that one. Q. Do you recall whether or not the individuals who were representing the White House interests were concerned about the exposure of Mr. HUNT'S involvement with the Bay of Pigs and with the Agency? A. Well, the two White House representatives were Haldeman and Ehrlichman and I don't, I obviously, memory is very fallible, but I don't recall Mrs., Mr. HUNT'S name ever coming up in connection with the meeting...I was not distressed. I was attempting to be emphatic. I did not like Mr. Haldeman attempting to blackmail me by indicating in some fashion or other that by raising the Bay of Pigs __ It was Helms who blackmailed Nixon to prevent Nixon from firing Helms and taking the Bay of Pigs literature to read, no big deal, just a president reading his own newspaper. Helms' blackmail was successful, though. When Nixon tried to play blackmail on the level of that blackmail game, Nixon lost the initiative, he was doomed. He had to put Helms in a safehouse for two weeks to brief his successor after a failed three count, put Helms #2 into retirement after a failed four count, put Helms #2 into retirement after a failed five count, until Nixon got his newspaper to read, end of story, but Nixon descended to the level of blackmail, which sign of weakness could itself be portrayed in a bad light. Bad light was the real problem, bad light made it hard to read a newspaper, so get a different light and never let Helms set foot at Langley after three seconds of his insurrection at the White House. Helms, not Nixon, was the one threatening to drag the oligarchy's modus operandi into the light. Nixon believed it was him, got afraid. Once he believed he was the one off the reservation threatening to expose the means of control, he was just a kid playing on a kid level--blackmail. Two couldn't play. Bad light, different ruleset. Don't play, rule, the oligarchy would have had to back Nixon if he aced Helms in order to read the newspaper in a better light. __ According to H.R. Haldeman, when Richard Helms realized that NIXON was going to use HUNT'S involvement in the Kennedy assassination to quash the investigation of Watergate, he became violently angry, but he calmed down and realized NIXON was right. Richard Helms agreed to help cover up Watergate. WHITE HOUSE TAPES The White House tapes supported H.R. Haldeman's version. When he reported to NIXON at the Oval Office at 2:20 p.m., H.R. Haldeman told NIXON: "No problem, Grey called Helms and said, 'I think we've run right in the middle of a CIA operation.'" NIXON did not believe Richard Helms would have acted so expeditiously: "Grey said that?" Haldeman answered: "Yeah, and (?) said nothing we've done at this point and ah (?) says well it sure looks to me like it is (?) and ah, that was the end of that conversation. NEW NIXON TAPES HUNT'S ACTIVITIES IN THE 1960'S: July 1, 1972 Colson: HUNT is a fellow who I would trust. I mean, he's a true believer, a real patriot. My God, the things he's done for his country. It's just a tragedy he gets smeared with this. Of course, the other story that a lot of people have bought is that HOWARD HUNT was taken out of the country by the CIA. Well, he's certainly done a lot of hot stuff...Oh Jesus. He pulled a lot of very fancy stuff in the sixties. (Withdrawn Item. National Security.) NIXON: Well, I don't agree. If anything ever happens to him, be sure that he blows the whistle, the whole Bay of Pigs. Colson: He wrote the book. Nixon: Blow their horn. Colson: He tells quite a story, coming in here during that period crying and pleading with Kennedy... ANALYSIS The intriguing thing here is the withdrawn item. There is nothing like a withdrawn item to get your imagination going. But it is never a smoking gun, it is always just a large piece of the puzzle. The next line, "be sure that he blows the whistle" makes more since if it read "be sure that he doesn't blow the whistle." The Bay of Pigs thing was the Kennedy Assassination. HUNT AND THE TRAMPS: HUNT AS A MASTER OF DISGUISE JUNE 30, 1972 NIXON: This guy is a wiretapper. He's been taping for years, hasn't he? Haldeman: I don't know. I don't know what he - he's a disguise type guy. NIXON: And deep cover. Haldeman: He writes dirty books. MacGregor: The phrase, the CIA phrase is deep cover operative. NIXON: Deep cover...Of course he was also with Kennedy and he worked for Johnson. NIXON: About this fellow HUNT, I mean afterall the gun and the wiretapping doesn't bother me a bit with this fellow. He's in the Cuban thing, the whole Cuban business. He's out of the country. Haldeman: No. NIXON: Is he back in the country? Haldeman: He never went out but it doesn't matter. He's a - at least they say, his main stock and trade is he's a master of disguise. (Chuckles) He's someplace under some disguise, although he's supposed to go abroad... KISSINGER'S KNEW ABOUT PROPOSED BROOKINGS BREAK IN NIXON: Bob? Bob? Now do you remember Houston's plan? Implement it! Kissinger: Now Brookings has no right to have classified documents. NIXON: I want it implemented. Goddamnit, go in and get those files. Blow the safe and get it. WHEN DID NIXON FIRST MEET HOWARD HUNT? DATE: June 30, 1971 NIXON: They (the Brookings Institution) have a lot material... I want Brookings, I want them just to break in and take it out. Do you understand? Haldeman: Yeah, but you have to have somebody do it. NIXON: That's what I am talking about. Don't discuss it here. You talk to HUNT. I want the break-in. Hell, they do that. You're to break into the place, rifle the files and bring them in. June 21, 1972 NIXON: HUNT worked for Kennedy, he worked for Johnson, now he worked for the White House. That's the whole story about him...And he worked for the CIA. He worked in the Bay of Pigs. I mean, he's done a lot of things. So I've got to guess is that, I mean, it could be isolated instances. If the man's worked for various things, he's worked for...HUNT must be a pretty good guy though. Colson: He's got one of the most interesting careers of anybody I've known. The tragedy is that the guy is a dedicated patriot ...God. Nixon: Of course and he deliberately decided he is not going to be around, is that right? That is what I hear. Colson: I don't know. Haldeman: He isn't around- Colson: You know he's- NIXON: Well, you know, you don't want him in here, Bob. Colson: He came to me in February and he said: This is the only year I care about; the most important thing that ever happens is this man be re-elected; I just want to help. And you hate to see the poor guy get it. NIXON: Oh well. Colson: It just happens...he's lived through this before. NIXON: What the hell, the Bay of Pigs. Colson: He lived in exile once before and so forth. Haldeman: He's used to this sort of stuff...It's part of his life. Nixon: He's written 42 novels. June 30, 1972 NIXON: He wouldn't do such a stupid thing. The White House thing, I mean this fellow, what's his name, HUNT?...This HUNT fellow, did you ever meet HUNT? I've never seen him. April 28, 1973 NIXON: You know the thing about that is that Colson never told me about HUNT, that he knew HUNT, until after the Watergate thing. Erlichman: Is that right? NIXON: I never heard of E. HOWARD HUNT, no, sir, no. No sir...I had understood he said he doesn't know HUNT well, or something like that. I think that's apparently been his line... But afterwards he said he was an intimate friend. ANALYSIS HUNT may have met NIXON when HUNT was a CIA Chief of Station in Latin America, however, this would have been a brief and forgettable encounter. In Give Us This Day HUNT described NIXON as the White House Action Officer for Bay of Pigs. It was during this period that HUNT had his first significant contact with Vice President NIXON. As documented in Coup D'Etat in America Data Base NIXON worked with HUNT on the assassination of NIXON'S rival[...and Skull and Bones rival, McGeorge Bundy S&B making the call to stop the Bay of Pigs air cover in order to finesse Bay of Pigs to be the first Skull and Bones JFK assassination via Watergate style character assassination -Bob], John Kennedy, in 1963. In 1971 NIXON reassembled many of the members of this hit squad and used them against other political rivals. At this point NIXON expressed a familiarity with the talents of HUNT as evidenced by the June 30, 1971 reference to HUNT. NIXON knew that one of HUNT'S talents was serreptious entry. On June 21, 1972 NIXON pretended he was not well aquainted with HUNT: "HUNT must be a pretty good guy though." It is interesting to note the reference here to HUNT having lived in exile. There is no such reference to a period of exile in Undercover, HUNT'S autobiography. Haldeman had HUNT disappearing to a Spanish speaking country: Haldeman: But HUNT disappeared or is in the process of disappearing. He can undisappear if we want him to. He can disappear to a Latin American country. But at least the original thought was that that would do it, that he might want to disappear (unintelligible) on the basis of these guys, the Cubans[Felix Rodriguez]-.... Perhaps this explains HUNT'S murky assignment in Spain in 1964, the nature of which remains unknown even to the CIA. Note that NIXON knew the exact number of novels authored by HUNT. On June 30, 1972 NIXON denied he had ever met HUNT and on April 28, 1973 NIXON claimed he had never even heard of HUNT until after Watergate. This contradicts earlier recordings and clearly demonstrates that NIXON was a liar. HOW FAR BACK DID HUNT'S MISDEEDS GO? NIXON: Of course, this, HUNT, that will uncover a lot of, a lot of, you open that scab there's a hell of a lot of things in it that we just feel that this would be very detrimental to have this thing go any further. NIXON: The one that is really going to pull the plug on Colson is HUNT... I don't think he'd pull the plug on his earlier ventures for us, do you? (April 10, 1973) NIXON: Well, your major guy to keep under control is HUNT - because he knows about a lot of other things. (March 21, 1973) NIXON AND HOOVER NIXON:...I told you that bizarre story that Edgar Hoover refused to investigate because Louis Marks, Mark's daughter was married to that son-of-a-bitch Ellsberg. (May 8, 1973)The problem we've got with some of this in the Ellsberg stuff, you see, Edgar Hoover wouldn't do the job because (Patricia) Marks, his closest friends daughter, was married to Ellsberg and wouldn't do it, and that's why some of that crap was done in the White House. (April 29, 1973). NIXON'S SECOND TERM: CARL SHOFFLER AND EDMUND CHUNG On November 7, 1972, NIXON was reelected in a landslide, carrying 49 states. Carl Shoffler, one of the arresting police officers at Watergate, advised the Ervin Committee that in January 1973, a week before the Watergate trial began, Edmund Chung, an acquaintance, approached him about the arrests. Carl Shoffler and Edmund Chung had served together at the U.S. Army Security Agency in Warrenton, Virginia. Carl Shoffler testified that Edmund Chung suggested he was in some way involved with those arrested, and appeared to be seeking some unspecified assistance. Carl Shoffler said that Edmund Chung indicated that he was going to make a report on his three-hour meeting with Carl Shoffler, and that his people would not be pleased unless he cooperated. Carl Shoffler met with Edmund Chung again in mid-April 1973. Carl Shoffler stated that Edmund Chung asked him if there was any way Watergate could be made to look like a set up, and suggested that Carl Shoffler might say that he had prior knowledge of the prospective arrests. Edmund Chung allegedly offered Carl Shoffler a large sum of money. Carl Shoffler told this researcher: "There was a conflicting viewpoint on that. My interpretation of his offer was different than his feeling toward the offer. The one thing that is clear to both sides was that there was an offer made. The perception of why the offer was made was in dispute." Carl Shoffler had no idea[...evidence from the fifty cartons -Bob] who was behind Edmund Chung. The Senate Select Committee on Campaign Activities interviewed Edmund Chung. Edmund Chung denied any knowledge of efforts either to conceal facts related to Watergate, or to induce others to alter their testimony. He said he called Carl Shoffler after seeing his name in the newspapers and had dinner with him. Edmund Chung told the staff that there was a second evening spent with Carl Shoffler in mid-April 1973, but that on this occasion, Carl Shoffler did not have much to say about Watergate and seemed obsessed with the idea that Edmund Chung was a CIA agent. Edmund Chung denied being a CIA employee. The employer of Edmund Chung, the U.S. Army Security Agency, was interviewed about him. His superior advised that the military duties of Edmund Chung had been classified and that Edmund Chung held a Top Secret Crypto clearance. Edmund Chung's superior claimed he was unaware of a Chung/CIA connection. [Minority Report SSCIA Investigation of Advance Knowledge of Illegal Political Espionage.] Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links
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