Re: [Cin] Clips/Nested clips/Xml - new feature - best thing since sliced bread!

[Haldun ALTAN]

  
  
Hello,
I don't know if i get this right or wrong but i already worked
  with several timelines in cinelerra. 

They were, in your exemple, "intro", "part 1", "part 2",
  "credits" and each of it in was in a seperate project that you
  could put together by only copy and paste, from one project to
  another. 

Is the différence is they are now in the same project ?
Haldun.

Le 28/12/2019 à 00:41, Sam a écrit :


  
  One of the greatest strengths of commercial NLEs is the ability
to work with multiple timelines.

Why work with multiple timelines?

A movie project can be divided into several sections such as
intro, main part 1, main part 2 and credits.

From this I make four timelines called Intro, Part 1, Part 2,
Credits.

This splits the whole movie project into four parts and allows
faster working in the main window, because not the whole movie
project is loaded in the main window, but only a quarter of the
movie. This speeds up the work a lot and allows other
contributors to work on different parts of a film project and
finally add them together and make an overall coordination.

When the intro, main part 1, main part 2 and the credits are
finished, these timelines are joined together to form an overall
timeline. 

A new timeline called Composition is created and Timeline Intro,
Timeline Part 1, Timeline Part 2 and Timeline Credits are
dragged into it.

Basically this feature is an extension of the EDL feature.
  I created the photomontage very fast and therefore they have a
lot of potential for improvement. The final solution can of
course look completely different, the pictures only serve to
illustrate my idea.
  Sam
  
  On 26.12.19 03:12, Phyllis Smith
wrote:
  
  


  Never hurts
to make suggestions -- sometimes things get done when an
unexpected need arises here.
  



  On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 5:36
PM Sam  wrote:
  
  

  Absolutely fantastic! I have been wishing for this
feature for so long, but due to his long wish list I did
not dare to say.  
This feature is the basis for several timelines. I miss
the timeline feature in Cinelerra for a long time. If
you agree, I would like to make some suggestions on this
topic for January. This EDL feature can be extended
relatively easily in my opinion.
  Sam
  
  On 25.12.19 05:59, Phyllis Smith wrote:
  
  

  With
the latest checkin, you can now edit EDL that is
included with your project as Clips, Nested Clips,
or Xml.  For example, if you have a nested clip that
originally had several plugins added to it before it
was nested, you can edit those plugin parameter
values.  Previously to make any changes to these EDL
clips/nested clips, you had to remake the whole clip
from scratch.  This is done via "Open EDL" and
button click as described below by the **.
  
  
  
  In
addition a couple of modifications related to this
are noticeable to include the following:
    -
in the Clip folder, when you Nest a clip, the
wording which was "Nest" is now "Nest to Media"
    -
in the Clip folder, when you actually perform "Nest
to Media", the nested clip is only displayed in the
Media folder
  
  
  for
example:
  1)
load some test media, mode replace project
  2)
highlight a selection and press create clip.  add
notes and press ok.  clip is created
  3)
in resources window, open the clip folder.  clip1 is
present
  4)
select clip1 and right mouse the item.  select menu
item Open EDL
  5)
timeline changes to just the clip content.
  6)
add a visible effect, like burning tv and press the
[1] in the main menu bar.

Re: [Cin] New feature. Is it real?

[preobraz]

28.12.2019 01:16, Phyllis Smith wrote:


This looks like a quite useful convenient feature, but sometimes people
have 10's and 10's of files and it would be difficult to get that many
media tabs on the Viewer.  A common project I have seen consists of 84
clips (too many tabs) which are dragged to the Viewer, one at a time in
order to quickly pick the one to be used.

Current method of viewing all of the media, is in the Resources window,
highlight all or just the interesting media and right mouse click to bring
up the option of "View in new window".  This opens up a different viewer
window for each piece of media.  Like in:https://streamable.com/4s2h7

I like the tab idea as it is so obvious and easy to find/see, but I doubt I
can convince gg to work on this.


The analogy with Internet browsers begs, right? Previously, you had to 
open a new page in a new window, and then implemented tabs. If you adopt 
some of the ways to navigate tabs from browsers, then users will not 
have to get used to it. And if you leave the opportunity to open 
resources in the window, then everyone will be able to choose what will 
be more convenient for him.


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Re: [Cin] New feature. Is it real?

[Phyllis Smith]

This looks like a quite useful convenient feature, but sometimes people
have 10's and 10's of files and it would be difficult to get that many
media tabs on the Viewer.  A common project I have seen consists of 84
clips (too many tabs) which are dragged to the Viewer, one at a time in
order to quickly pick the one to be used.

Current method of viewing all of the media, is in the Resources window,
highlight all or just the interesting media and right mouse click to bring
up the option of "View in new window".  This opens up a different viewer
window for each piece of media.  Like in:  https://streamable.com/4s2h7

I like the tab idea as it is so obvious and easy to find/see, but I doubt I
can convince gg to work on this.

On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 5:25 PM  wrote:

> Hello!
> I propose to consider the concept of new functionality. To improve the
> usability, it is useful to have constant access to all project resources
> in the viewing window. You can implement this using the tabs.
> Example: https://pic4a.ru/912/qba.gif
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