Re: [Cin] BUG on Clear keyframes (CinGG-release by GIT 30Aug 2020)

2020-08-31 Thread Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin
В сообщении от Monday 31 August 2020 19:34:20 Phyllis Smith via Cin написал(а):
> Thanks Igor and Andrew for testing some more,
> GG was hoping to come up with a fast solution to get into the builds but
> unfortunately it is going to take a design change which needs a week to
> code and test.  So he decided it is better to do the builds and leave in a
> "known bug" instead of create an unknown one.  He says a workaround is to
> turn on/off "keyframes follow edits when this error could surface.

Yes ... this seems to work!
Please add this to known issues for this release?

Also, documentation (pdf) is not up-to-date for now (file modification from 9 
aug 2020).

May be wait few days or week before all this synced again? I'm not aware about 
any scripted automatic download/builders for CinGG outside your dev. machine ...

> 
> Sorry about this.  It is mostly my fault as I have been unable to test this
> major mod for bump autos.
> 
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 6:57 AM Igor BEGHETTO via Cin <
> cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org> wrote:
> 
> > Clear Keyframes (Shift+Del) do not delete the right keyframes.
> > Maybe it's too late for the monthy release but a bug I found. I don't
> > know if this bug is also in the last GIT release.
> > 1. Create three (or more) Fade keyframes
> > 2. Highlight an area to select one or more Fade keyframe
> > 3. Hit Shift+Del shortcut or Keyframes-> Clear Keyframes
> > 4. It delete the wrong keyframes and move others.
> > (Note: Settings-> keyframes follow edits = checked)
> >
> > Take a look the screencast at
> > https://streamable.com/q58t37
> >
> > Thanks! (Sorry for the late)
> >
> > IgorBeg
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Re: [Cin] BUG on Clear keyframes (CinGG-release by GIT 30Aug 2020)

2020-08-31 Thread Phyllis Smith via Cin
Thanks Igor and Andrew for testing some more,
GG was hoping to come up with a fast solution to get into the builds but
unfortunately it is going to take a design change which needs a week to
code and test.  So he decided it is better to do the builds and leave in a
"known bug" instead of create an unknown one.  He says a workaround is to
turn on/off "keyframes follow edits when this error could surface.

Sorry about this.  It is mostly my fault as I have been unable to test this
major mod for bump autos.

On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 6:57 AM Igor BEGHETTO via Cin <
cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org> wrote:

> Clear Keyframes (Shift+Del) do not delete the right keyframes.
> Maybe it's too late for the monthy release but a bug I found. I don't
> know if this bug is also in the last GIT release.
> 1. Create three (or more) Fade keyframes
> 2. Highlight an area to select one or more Fade keyframe
> 3. Hit Shift+Del shortcut or Keyframes-> Clear Keyframes
> 4. It delete the wrong keyframes and move others.
> (Note: Settings-> keyframes follow edits = checked)
>
> Take a look the screencast at
> https://streamable.com/q58t37
>
> Thanks! (Sorry for the late)
>
> IgorBeg
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Re: [Cin] BUG on Clear keyframes (CinGG-release by GIT 30Aug 2020)

2020-08-31 Thread Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin

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Тема: Re: [Cin] BUG on Clear keyframes (CinGG-release by GIT 30Aug 2020)
Дата: Понедельник 31 августа 2020
Отправитель: Andrew Randrianasulu 
Получатель:  cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org

В сообщении от Monday 31 August 2020 15:56:28 Igor BEGHETTO via Cin написал(а):
> Clear Keyframes (Shift+Del) do not delete the right keyframes.
> Maybe it's too late for the monthy release but a bug I found. I don't 
> know if this bug is also in the last GIT release.

I think bug still exist in latest (0678b17975f50a831fb8a1cda6baaa961e3b6de7) 
code,
at least if I try to cover all existing keyframes by highlighting them - they 
all disappear.

But if I only select 2-3 out of 4 - yes, remaining keyframes moved left, into 
higlighted region.

Thing is, because those keyframes represent change ... deleting only SOME of 
them will 
create new curve (default value in highlighted region, abruptly starting to 
climb to remaining keyframes
as  we move outside of highlighted region).

I mean, isn't this operation ought to *create* some keyframes in such case, 
too? 

*update*

No, my thinking above was not useful here, but may be keyframes saved not as 
absolute pairs (distance from start of timeline, value), but as relative 
(delta) to 
previous keyframe values?

If so, 'delete keyframes' should recalculate this delta for next left keyframe 
outside of 
highlighted region relative to keyframe right before highlight started (if any).
And then apply those values to left (next) keyframe.

At least when it comes to automatization keyframes like fade, speed, etc.
Not sure how plugin automatization  should react.
 


> 1. Create three (or more) Fade keyframes
> 2. Highlight an area to select one or more Fade keyframe
> 3. Hit Shift+Del shortcut or Keyframes-> Clear Keyframes
> 4. It delete the wrong keyframes and move others.
> (Note: Settings-> keyframes follow edits = checked)
> 
> Take a look the screencast at
> https://streamable.com/q58t37
> 
> Thanks! (Sorry for the late)
> 
> IgorBeg



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Re: [Cin] BUG on Clear keyframes (CinGG-release by GIT 30Aug 2020)

2020-08-31 Thread Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin
В сообщении от Monday 31 August 2020 15:56:28 Igor BEGHETTO via Cin написал(а):
> Clear Keyframes (Shift+Del) do not delete the right keyframes.
> Maybe it's too late for the monthy release but a bug I found. I don't 
> know if this bug is also in the last GIT release.

I think bug still exist in latest (0678b17975f50a831fb8a1cda6baaa961e3b6de7) 
code,
at least if I try to cover all existing keyframes by highlighting them - they 
all disappear.

But if I only select 2-3 out of 4 - yes, remaining keyframes moved left, into 
higlighted region.

Thing is, because those keyframes represent change ... deleting only SOME of 
them will 
create new curve (default value in highlighted region, abruptly starting to 
climb to remaining keyframes
as  we move outside of highlighted region).

I mean, isn't this operation ought to *create* some keyframes in such case, 
too? 

> 1. Create three (or more) Fade keyframes
> 2. Highlight an area to select one or more Fade keyframe
> 3. Hit Shift+Del shortcut or Keyframes-> Clear Keyframes
> 4. It delete the wrong keyframes and move others.
> (Note: Settings-> keyframes follow edits = checked)
> 
> Take a look the screencast at
> https://streamable.com/q58t37
> 
> Thanks! (Sorry for the late)
> 
> IgorBeg


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[Cin] BUG on Clear keyframes (CinGG-release by GIT 30Aug 2020)

2020-08-31 Thread Igor BEGHETTO via Cin

Clear Keyframes (Shift+Del) do not delete the right keyframes.
Maybe it's too late for the monthy release but a bug I found. I don't 
know if this bug is also in the last GIT release.

1. Create three (or more) Fade keyframes
2. Highlight an area to select one or more Fade keyframe
3. Hit Shift+Del shortcut or Keyframes-> Clear Keyframes
4. It delete the wrong keyframes and move others.
(Note: Settings-> keyframes follow edits = checked)

Take a look the screencast at
https://streamable.com/q58t37

Thanks! (Sorry for the late)

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[Cin] Crash at fast 'z' (undo) for many-fade-keyframes?

2020-08-31 Thread Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin
I was playing with new bump autos, set some on fade curve, 
played with type of each keyframe point, and then decided to
remove them all by hitting 'z' fast. This resulted in:

 cin
Cinelerra Infinity - built: Aug 31 2020 05:07:06
git://git.cinelerra-gg.org/goodguy/cinelerra.git
(c) 2006-2019 Heroine Virtual Ltd. by Adam Williams
2007-2020 mods for Cinelerra-GG by W.P.Morrow aka goodguy
Cinelerra is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License,
and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under
certain conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for Cinelerra.

RenderFarmClient::main_loop: client started
FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming 
with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming 
with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming 
with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming 
with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming 
with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming 
with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming 
with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming 
with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming 
with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming 
with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming 
with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming 
with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming 
with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming 
with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming 
with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming 
with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming 
with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming 
with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming 
with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
Mutex::lock: Resource temporarily unavailable
Mutex::unlock: Invalid argument
** segv at 0xf6a2d558 in pid 3994, tid 4011
writing debug data to /tmp/cinelerra_3994.dmp
lock_items: 19
lock_frees: 6
FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming 
with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming 
with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming 
with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming 
with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming 
with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
** dump complete
Ошибка сегментирования

Dump attached
** segv at 0xf6a2d558 in pid 3994, tid 4011
created on Mon Aug 31 15:26:53 2020
by 1000:100 guest()

OS:

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tsc_scale vmcb_clean flushbyasid 

Re: [Cin] Today's GIT checkin includes fixes + Ctrl-s for save session

2020-08-31 Thread Igor BEGHETTO via Cin

All my personal opinion.

I am not an old Cinelerra-GG user like most of You (I am using 
Cinelerra-GG since January 2018 ) and, for me, some shortcuts should be 
changed (I already speak about).


For me there are foundamental shortcuts that a NLE must have, for 
example J-K-L for PlayBackward-Stop-PlayForward and I-O for In point-Out 
point.
Ctrl+S is good for me and Ctrl+Z shortcut would be welcome. And, I 
think, the old "Save 's' " could be deleted. I understand the old users 
but, the old users can do an effort to change (hey!, I no longer have 
the shortcuts for the old "Move tracks Up/Down"). I think that Ctrl+S 
for Save is a standard.


IMHO some shortcuts could go away and to be available for feature, new 
or old, more used.
For me a shortcut should be assigned to a tool most frequently (or 
important?) used.
For example I would not assign any shortcuts to the following items in 
File menu:

- BD Render... (Ctrl+Shift+D)
- DVD Render... (Alt+D)
- SubTitle... (Alt-Y)

About Speed feature:
Very good. Thanks!
I noticed that Speed tool must be used with care because the different 
types of keyframes can upset your work.
IMHO, I would have preffered to be implemented at the clip level that 
you can change with RMB menu on it, and the Speed lines on the track to 
be hidden. Of course, this way, could not have the Speed Ramp.


About F_minterpolate:
I have done a short test. On my Charlie F_minterpolate can not work in 
real time (Proxy without Scaler enabled). I have to use a workaroud. So 
I can decide if create a SlowMo with FFmpeg by command line or inside 
Cinelerra-GG: good!


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Re: [Cin] New ffmpeg plugins

2020-08-31 Thread Andrea paz via Cin
If it were possible to make the "F_subtitles" filter work, it would
solve BT#0282.
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