Re: [Cin] Varied Standard Shortcuts AppImage version for testing

2023-09-27 Thread Phyllis Smith via Cin
I will have to ask permission first.

On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 4:36 PM Andrew Randrianasulu <
randrianas...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> чт, 28 сент. 2023 г., 01:13 Phyllis Smith via Cin <
> cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org>:
>
>> There is a modified Shortcuts AppImage version for testing on 64-bit O/S
>> which is set up to be more in sync with what is considered to be "Standard"
>> shortcuts for NLEs..  IgorB uses these and prepared a listing of the
>> alternatives as shown below.  If there are users who test these and prefer
>> the more Standard ones, I can create an AppImage at the same time as what
>> is released.  It is currently at:
>>
>
>
>
> Big work ! Can you share / post online source patch for this too?
>
>>
>> https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/testing/modified_shortcuts.AppImage
>>
>> -
>> Changed shortcuts to Standard Shortcuts -  only English version for the
>> caption/hints.  The texts in the menu and the captions of the icons,
>> written with the '-' character between the Special key and the key, for
>> example "Shift-s", have been replaced by the '+' character.  And the
>> letters are always in capital letters although Shift is not pressed. Many,
>> if not all the other NLE programs use this notation.   Some shortcuts
>> like "BD Render... (Ctrl+Shift+d)" and "DVD Render... (Alt+d) have been
>> deleted because they are not used  frequently.
>>
>> These shortcuts are very useful because the keys more frequently used
>> have priority in editing: one hand (left) on the keyboard and the other
>> hand (right) on the mouse.
>>
>> /* **
>> */
>> Goal:
>> Changing some shortcuts to a NLE's standard shortcuts.
>> For example: J - K - L (Play Normal reverse - Stop- Play Normal forward)
>> if pressed twice J (or L), its Play Fast or
>> Normal.
>>  I - O (InPoint - OutPoint)
>>  A - S (Jump backwards next cut - Jump forwards next cut)
>>
>> If an shortcut on After column has a '+' symbol (for example: + 'I'),
>> it means that it is added to the old shortcut/s on Before column
>> and also that that shortcut has been take from an old shortcut (of
>> course),
>> which it has another key.
>>
>> --+---+---+
>> Description   |   Shortcut
>>   | Before| After
>>
>> --+---+---+
>> -To clip  | 'i'   | Ctrl+I
>> -Scroll window timeline... left   | LeftArrow, ','| LeftArrow
>> -Scroll window timeline... right  | RightArrow, '.| RightArrow
>> -Label| 'l'   | ''' (single quote)
>> -Go to| 'g'   | Ctrl+G
>> -Generate keyframes... tweeking   | 'j'   | 'G'
>> -Jump forward... next Keyframes   | 'k'   | Shift+Right Arrow
>> -Jump backwards... next Keyframes | Shift+K   | Shift+Left Arrow
>> -New Project...   | 'n'   | Ctrl+N
>> -Load files...| 'o'   | Ctrl+O
>> -Save | 's'   | Ctrl+S
>> -Save as...   | Shift+S   | Ctrl+Shift+S
>> -Save Session | Ctrl+S| (null)
>> -Select-> All | 'a'   | Ctrl+A
>> -Deselect All | 'a' or null   | Ctrl+Shift+A
>> -Select Edits | Ctrl+Alt+'| Ctrl+Alt+A
>> -Undo | 'z', Ctrl+Z   | Ctrl+Z
>> -Redo | Shift+Z   | Shift+Z
>> -InPoint  | '[', '<'  | + 'I'
>> -OutPoint | ']', '>'  | + 'O'
>> -Play Normal reverse  | NumKP 6, Alt+O| + 'J' Normal
>> -Play Stop| NumKP 0, Alt+M| + 'K'
>> -Play Normal forward  | NumKP 3, Alt+L| + 'L' Normal
>> -Jump backwards to the next cut   | Alt+LeftArrow | + 'A'
>> -Jump forwards to the next cut| Alt+RightArrow| + 'S'
>> -One Frame back   | NumKP 4, Alt+U| + ',' (comma)
>> -One Frame forward| NumKP 1, Alt+J| + '.' (period)
>>   |   |
>> -Load window: Select All files| Ctrl+A| Ctrl+A
>> -Load window: Deselect All files  | Ctrl+Z| Ctrl+Shift+A
>> -BD Render... | Ctrl+Shift+d  | (null)
>> -DVD Render...| Alt+d | (null)
>> -Delete last track| 'd'->Ctrl+D   | Ctrl+D
>> -Quit | 'q'   | Ctrl+Q
>> -Settings-> Save settings now | Ctrl+Shift+S  | Shift+S
>> -Settings-> Align cursor on frames| Ctrl+A| Ctrl+F
>>

Re: [Cin] Varied Standard Shortcuts AppImage version for testing

2023-09-27 Thread Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin
чт, 28 сент. 2023 г., 01:13 Phyllis Smith via Cin <
cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org>:

> There is a modified Shortcuts AppImage version for testing on 64-bit O/S
> which is set up to be more in sync with what is considered to be "Standard"
> shortcuts for NLEs..  IgorB uses these and prepared a listing of the
> alternatives as shown below.  If there are users who test these and prefer
> the more Standard ones, I can create an AppImage at the same time as what
> is released.  It is currently at:
>



Big work ! Can you share / post online source patch for this too?

>
> https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/testing/modified_shortcuts.AppImage
>
> -
> Changed shortcuts to Standard Shortcuts -  only English version for the
> caption/hints.  The texts in the menu and the captions of the icons,
> written with the '-' character between the Special key and the key, for
> example "Shift-s", have been replaced by the '+' character.  And the
> letters are always in capital letters although Shift is not pressed. Many,
> if not all the other NLE programs use this notation.   Some shortcuts
> like "BD Render... (Ctrl+Shift+d)" and "DVD Render... (Alt+d) have been
> deleted because they are not used  frequently.
>
> These shortcuts are very useful because the keys more frequently used
> have priority in editing: one hand (left) on the keyboard and the other
> hand (right) on the mouse.
>
> /* **
> */
> Goal:
> Changing some shortcuts to a NLE's standard shortcuts.
> For example: J - K - L (Play Normal reverse - Stop- Play Normal forward)
> if pressed twice J (or L), its Play Fast or
> Normal.
>  I - O (InPoint - OutPoint)
>  A - S (Jump backwards next cut - Jump forwards next cut)
>
> If an shortcut on After column has a '+' symbol (for example: + 'I'),
> it means that it is added to the old shortcut/s on Before column
> and also that that shortcut has been take from an old shortcut (of
> course),
> which it has another key.
> --+---+---+
> Description   |   Shortcut
>   | Before| After
> --+---+---+
> -To clip  | 'i'   | Ctrl+I
> -Scroll window timeline... left   | LeftArrow, ','| LeftArrow
> -Scroll window timeline... right  | RightArrow, '.| RightArrow
> -Label| 'l'   | ''' (single quote)
> -Go to| 'g'   | Ctrl+G
> -Generate keyframes... tweeking   | 'j'   | 'G'
> -Jump forward... next Keyframes   | 'k'   | Shift+Right Arrow
> -Jump backwards... next Keyframes | Shift+K   | Shift+Left Arrow
> -New Project...   | 'n'   | Ctrl+N
> -Load files...| 'o'   | Ctrl+O
> -Save | 's'   | Ctrl+S
> -Save as...   | Shift+S   | Ctrl+Shift+S
> -Save Session | Ctrl+S| (null)
> -Select-> All | 'a'   | Ctrl+A
> -Deselect All | 'a' or null   | Ctrl+Shift+A
> -Select Edits | Ctrl+Alt+'| Ctrl+Alt+A
> -Undo | 'z', Ctrl+Z   | Ctrl+Z
> -Redo | Shift+Z   | Shift+Z
> -InPoint  | '[', '<'  | + 'I'
> -OutPoint | ']', '>'  | + 'O'
> -Play Normal reverse  | NumKP 6, Alt+O| + 'J' Normal
> -Play Stop| NumKP 0, Alt+M| + 'K'
> -Play Normal forward  | NumKP 3, Alt+L| + 'L' Normal
> -Jump backwards to the next cut   | Alt+LeftArrow | + 'A'
> -Jump forwards to the next cut| Alt+RightArrow| + 'S'
> -One Frame back   | NumKP 4, Alt+U| + ',' (comma)
> -One Frame forward| NumKP 1, Alt+J| + '.' (period)
>   |   |
> -Load window: Select All files| Ctrl+A| Ctrl+A
> -Load window: Deselect All files  | Ctrl+Z| Ctrl+Shift+A
> -BD Render... | Ctrl+Shift+d  | (null)
> -DVD Render...| Alt+d | (null)
> -Delete last track| 'd'->Ctrl+D   | Ctrl+D
> -Quit | 'q'   | Ctrl+Q
> -Settings-> Save settings now | Ctrl+Shift+S  | Shift+S
> -Settings-> Align cursor on frames| Ctrl+A| Ctrl+F
> --+---+---+
>
> To summarize the jumps backwards and forward:
> --+---+---+
>
> -Jump backwards to 

[Cin] Varied Standard Shortcuts AppImage version for testing

2023-09-27 Thread Phyllis Smith via Cin
There is a modified Shortcuts AppImage version for testing on 64-bit O/S
which is set up to be more in sync with what is considered to be "Standard"
shortcuts for NLEs..  IgorB uses these and prepared a listing of the
alternatives as shown below.  If there are users who test these and prefer
the more Standard ones, I can create an AppImage at the same time as what
is released.  It is currently at:

https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/testing/modified_shortcuts.AppImage

-
Changed shortcuts to Standard Shortcuts -  only English version for the
caption/hints.  The texts in the menu and the captions of the icons,
written with the '-' character between the Special key and the key, for
example "Shift-s", have been replaced by the '+' character.  And the
letters are always in capital letters although Shift is not pressed. Many,
if not all the other NLE programs use this notation.   Some shortcuts like
"BD Render... (Ctrl+Shift+d)" and "DVD Render... (Alt+d) have been deleted
because they are not used  frequently.

These shortcuts are very useful because the keys more frequently used have
priority in editing: one hand (left) on the keyboard and the other hand
(right) on the mouse.

/* ** */
Goal:
Changing some shortcuts to a NLE's standard shortcuts.
For example: J - K - L (Play Normal reverse - Stop- Play Normal forward)
if pressed twice J (or L), its Play Fast or Normal.
 I - O (InPoint - OutPoint)
 A - S (Jump backwards next cut - Jump forwards next cut)

If an shortcut on After column has a '+' symbol (for example: + 'I'),
it means that it is added to the old shortcut/s on Before column
and also that that shortcut has been take from an old shortcut (of course),
which it has another key.
--+---+---+
Description   |   Shortcut
  | Before| After
--+---+---+
-To clip  | 'i'   | Ctrl+I
-Scroll window timeline... left   | LeftArrow, ','| LeftArrow
-Scroll window timeline... right  | RightArrow, '.| RightArrow
-Label| 'l'   | ''' (single quote)
-Go to| 'g'   | Ctrl+G
-Generate keyframes... tweeking   | 'j'   | 'G'
-Jump forward... next Keyframes   | 'k'   | Shift+Right Arrow
-Jump backwards... next Keyframes | Shift+K   | Shift+Left Arrow
-New Project...   | 'n'   | Ctrl+N
-Load files...| 'o'   | Ctrl+O
-Save | 's'   | Ctrl+S
-Save as...   | Shift+S   | Ctrl+Shift+S
-Save Session | Ctrl+S| (null)
-Select-> All | 'a'   | Ctrl+A
-Deselect All | 'a' or null   | Ctrl+Shift+A
-Select Edits | Ctrl+Alt+'| Ctrl+Alt+A
-Undo | 'z', Ctrl+Z   | Ctrl+Z
-Redo | Shift+Z   | Shift+Z
-InPoint  | '[', '<'  | + 'I'
-OutPoint | ']', '>'  | + 'O'
-Play Normal reverse  | NumKP 6, Alt+O| + 'J' Normal
-Play Stop| NumKP 0, Alt+M| + 'K'
-Play Normal forward  | NumKP 3, Alt+L| + 'L' Normal
-Jump backwards to the next cut   | Alt+LeftArrow | + 'A'
-Jump forwards to the next cut| Alt+RightArrow| + 'S'
-One Frame back   | NumKP 4, Alt+U| + ',' (comma)
-One Frame forward| NumKP 1, Alt+J| + '.' (period)
  |   |
-Load window: Select All files| Ctrl+A| Ctrl+A
-Load window: Deselect All files  | Ctrl+Z| Ctrl+Shift+A
-BD Render... | Ctrl+Shift+d  | (null)
-DVD Render...| Alt+d | (null)
-Delete last track| 'd'->Ctrl+D   | Ctrl+D
-Quit | 'q'   | Ctrl+Q
-Settings-> Save settings now | Ctrl+Shift+S  | Shift+S
-Settings-> Align cursor on frames| Ctrl+A| Ctrl+F
--+---+---+

To summarize the jumps backwards and forward:
--+---+---+
-Jump backwards to the next cut   | Alt+LeftArrow,  'A'
-Jump forwards to the next cut| Alt+RightArrow, 'S'
-Jump backwards to the next label | Ctrl+LeftArrow
-Jump selecting forward label | Ctrl+Shift+RightArrow
-Jump selecting backwards label   | Ctrl+Shift+LeftArrow
-Jump forwards to the next label  | Ctrl+RightArrow
-Jump