Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra plays mute on pulseaudio

2012-03-19 Thread Einar Rünkaru
Hi

On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Miroslav Rovis m.ro...@inet.hr wrote:
 Hi everyone!
 I am in doubt whether to write to this list, or to pulseaudio list.
 But I thought there might be either some specific workaround that we
 hopefully will get to, or plain explanations that will later be useful
 to other Cinelerra users, or even maybe some bugs still there in
 Cinelerra, just maybe...
 So I think this is the place.
 My question will be: how to get Cinelerra audio playback to work, and
 here follows the situation.

 PulseAudio installed and working (but not for Cinelerra).

Can you tell us what audio device is configured in Cinelerra
(Preferences-Playback)? What is the audio driver, device, bits?

You may start Cinelerra from terminal - some error messages are
printed to terminal.

Einar

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Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra plays mute on pulseaudio

2012-03-19 Thread Einar Rünkaru
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Miroslav Rovis m.ro...@inet.hr wrote:


 On 19/03/12 17:34, Einar Rünkaru wrote:
 Hi


 Can you tell us what audio device is configured in Cinelerra
 (Preferences-Playback)? What is the audio driver, device, bits?
 Here:
 Cinelerra program window  Settings  Preferences  Playback:

 Audio out
 Playback buffer size: 131072
 Audio offset(sec): 0.
 (checked) View follows playback
 (checked) Disable hardware synchronization
 (NOT checked) Audio playback in real time priority (root only)

 Audio Driver:
 ALSA

 Device: default

 Bits: 16 Bit Linear

 (checked) Stop playback locks up.

Try to lower buffer size to 4096 (minimum) and uncheck 'Stop playback locks up'

 You may start Cinelerra from terminal - some error messages are
 printed to terminal.
 I always start Cinelerra from terminal.

So there were no error messages from cinelerra?

Einar

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Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra plays mute on pulseaudio

2012-03-19 Thread Raffaella Traniello

Miroslav,

you can try setting the Audio driver to ESound, port 7007.

Ciao!
Raffaella

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Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra plays mute on pulseaudio

2012-03-19 Thread Miroslav Rovis

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 Miroslav,

 you can try setting the Audio driver to ESound, port 7007.

 Ciao!
 Raffaella


That (yes, exactly that) makes Cinelerra to crash on my systme. I tried it.
I could try it again though... if needed.
M.R.

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Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra plays mute on pulseaudio

2012-03-19 Thread Miroslav Rovis
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 Miroslav,
 
 you can try setting the Audio driver to ESound, port 7007.
 
 Ciao! Raffaella
 


 Miroslav,
 
 you can try setting the Audio driver to ESound, port 7007.
 
 Ciao! Raffaella
 
 
 That (yes, exactly that) makes Cinelerra to crash on my systme. I
tried it.
 I could try it again though... if needed. M.R.
 
 

Sure enough. Only a few seconds (no sound during those, but there
isn't any in the first seconds of the file in the Cinelerra, TBH), and
crashes.

Raffa, it's your settings, from your site, that I got in there ;-)
(the settings that just worked, otherwise, prior to this pulseaudio
craze that got lots of people chickenized... :-)))

I have a hunch it's the clever people on PulseAudio list (Colin the
Developer replied there, and I am waiting on more from him...) that
have the secrets to solution for this issue...

http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/pulseaudio-discuss/2012-March/013020.html

M.R.


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Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra plays mute on pulseaudio

2012-03-19 Thread Einar Rünkaru
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Miroslav Rovis m.ro...@inet.hr wrote:

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 On 19/03/12 18:43, Einar Rünkaru wrote:

 (checked) Stop playback locks up.

 Try to lower buffer size to 4096 (minimum) and uncheck 'Stop playback
 locks up'


 I'm sorry, somehow I overlooked your line above. Tried it now. No luck!

 Just lots of these:
 [...snip...]
 AudioALSA::write_buffer underrun at sample 202210
 AudioALSA::write_buffer underrun at sample 207193
 AudioALSA::write_buffer underrun at sample 208656
 [...snip...]

 and no sound!
 M.R.

This proves that Cinelerra sends something to ALSA.

I am out of ideas.

My current system has ALSA default routed to pulse and I never get
underruns. My previous system got underruns - I am not sure how
pulseaudio was there set up. Everything just worked.

You have to figure out wether the ALSA default is routed to pulse or
not. So check your ALSA configuration. I can't help - I never digged
there. For me everything just worked. Almost.

Einar

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Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra plays mute on pulseaudio

2012-03-19 Thread Miroslav Rovis

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On 19/03/12 20:44, Einar Rünkaru wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Miroslav Rovis m.ro...@inet.hr wrote:

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 On 19/03/12 18:43, Einar Rünkaru wrote:

 (checked) Stop playback locks up.

 Try to lower buffer size to 4096 (minimum) and uncheck 'Stop playback
 locks up'


 I'm sorry, somehow I overlooked your line above. Tried it now. No luck!

 Just lots of these:
 [...snip...]
 AudioALSA::write_buffer underrun at sample 202210
 AudioALSA::write_buffer underrun at sample 207193
 AudioALSA::write_buffer underrun at sample 208656
 [...snip...]

 and no sound!
 M.R.

 This proves that Cinelerra sends something to ALSA.

 I am out of ideas.

 My current system has ALSA default routed to pulse and I never get
 underruns. My previous system got underruns - I am not sure how
 pulseaudio was there set up. Everything just worked.

 You have to figure out wether the ALSA default is routed to pulse or
 not. So check your ALSA configuration. I can't help - I never digged
 there. For me everything just worked. Almost.

 Einar
Thank you for you efforts.
This is an ugly hurdle for me.
PulseAudio needs some understanding of programming.
It is rather complicated.
Since I cannot go on without it now, I'll have to sit on their pages for
lots of my time ahead starting ... soon.
Starting soon. As soon as I get over the disappontment that this it not
a small hurdle as I hoped it might be...

Thanks again, to you and to Raffa.

I'll let the list know of any developments concerning this issue!

Miroslav Rovis

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