Re: [c-nsp] DCEF and CPP

2007-11-19 Thread Gabor Ivanszky
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Hello,

I am not sure on this, but on 7500 only dCEF is supported, and dCEF
runs only on the linecards, and not on the RSP. Control plane policing
should take place on the RSP, which in turn don't have any congestion
mgmt/avoidance function at all.

regards,
Gabor

Networkers wrote:
 Hi I am trying to turn on control-plane policing on a 7500 with
 RSP4 and VIP2/50's running 12.2(25)S12, and I have/get this:

 ip cef distributed ! class-map match-all TrustedControlAddresses
 match access-group 153 ! policy-map AllowTrustedControlAddresses
 class TrustedControlAddresses police cir 32000 bc 1500 be 1500
 conform-action drop exceed-action drop


 router(config)#control-plane router(config-cp)#service input
 AllowTrustedControlAddresses service-policy is supported only on
 VIP interfaces with DCEF enabled error: failed to install policy
 map AllowTrustedControlAddresses

 I already have ip cef distributed in the config, and I did an ip
 route-cache dist under the fast ethernet, ATM and DS3 interfaces
 installed in the router.  What am I missing?

 Thanks, Chris


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Re: [c-nsp] Invalid packet (too small) length=0

2007-11-19 Thread Nemeth Laszlo
Dear Oli!

Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer) i'rta:
 Nemeth Laszlo  wrote on Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:47 PM:
 I received this messages yesterday:
 Nov 16 21:57:23: Invalid packet (too small) length=0
 The router is a 7606 with Sup720-3BXL, ios:
 s72033-adventerprisek9_wan-mz.122-18.SXF6.bin

 Any suggestions?
 
 Hmm, could this have been an attack on your router/infrastructure or a
 broken NIC sending these frames? Could be tricky to analyze (if you
 want, you would need to set up span port and work from there, but enable
 no mls verify ip length minimum to actually forward these illegal
 packets).
 You can also investigate using Control plane policing to protect the
 RP..
 
   oli

I don't know whitch was the source interface, i have lot of SVI and ethernet 
interfaces so i think i can't do this monitoring :(
This incident happened now so first simply, and since then not. I saw nothing 
on 
  my MRTG graphs (for example: big incomming packets or other interesting 
things...).

I'll try this MLS command.

Thank You!

Laci
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Re: [c-nsp] Invalid packet (too small) length=0

2007-11-19 Thread Nemeth Laszlo
Dear Oli!

Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer) i'rta:
  Nemeth Laszlo  wrote on Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:47 PM:
  I received this messages yesterday:
  Nov 16 21:57:23: Invalid packet (too small) length=0
  The router is a 7606 with Sup720-3BXL, ios:
  s72033-adventerprisek9_wan-mz.122-18.SXF6.bin
 
  Any suggestions?
 
  Hmm, could this have been an attack on your router/infrastructure or a
  broken NIC sending these frames? Could be tricky to analyze (if you
  want, you would need to set up span port and work from there, but enable
  no mls verify ip length minimum to actually forward these illegal
  packets).
  You can also investigate using Control plane policing to protect the
  RP..
 
   oli

I don't know whitch was the source interface, i have lot of SVI and ethernet 
interfaces so i think i can't do this monitoring :(
This incident happened now so first simply, and since then not. I saw nothing 
on 
  my MRTG graphs (for example: big incomming packets or other interesting 
things...).

I'll try this MLS command.

Thank You!

Laci
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Re: [c-nsp] Weird Error Message in 'sho ver' on GSR after upgrade

2007-11-19 Thread Arie Vayner (avayner)
Michael,

Please try issuing the test mbus clear-jam-counts [slot] command.
This should clear the warnings.
If they reappear, it means that you have a problem on these cards. Then
you should try to reseat the cards, and if it still keeps reappearing,
RMA them...

I strongly suggest you follow the whole procedure with a TAC case and
direct guidance from TAC.

Arie 

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Hello All:

I just upgraded from 12.0(28)S to 12.0(32)S8 on a 12008 and I'm now see
this message in a show version.

WARNING: Non-zero CAN jam reset counter in slot 18
WARNING: Non-zero CAN jam reset counter in slot 19
WARNING: Non-zero CAN jam reset counter in slot 20

Those are the Switch Fabric Cards.  I've searched on CCO but there's
nothing that matches.  Does anyone know what these mean?

Regards,

Mike

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Re: [c-nsp] cisco-nsp Digest, Vol 60, Issue 60

2007-11-19 Thread Padmavathi Chilukoori
Hi Oli,

We have a scenario as below;

(LSR)
( LER) [ A ]-[ B ]==[ C ] (LER)
|
|
  [ D ]
   ( LER )

Following are the 2 signalled LSP's,

LSP1: A---B---C : with X bandwidth.
LSP2: D---B---C : with Y bandwidth.

These two LSP's are sharing the same link between LSR [B] and LER [c], Now,

1:  We want to gaurantee LSP1 with X bandwidth, and LSP2 with Y bandwidth.
 At LSR [B] how this bandwidths are gauranteed?  Is there any scheduler
applied for this, if  so, how? what exactly  reservation  of bandwidth
means?

2:  If LSP1 is not utilizing its X bandwidth, then we want LSP2 to get that
bandwidth utilized.

How to implement these in Cisco Router  what are the features required?

Thanks in advance,
Padma.










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7. Re: Invalid packet (too small) length=0 (Nemeth Laszlo)
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 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:30:35 +0100
 From: Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Invalid packet (too small) length=0
 To: Nemeth Laszlo [EMAIL PROTECTED], cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
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 Nemeth Laszlo  wrote on Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:47 PM:


  I received this messages yesterday:
 
  Nov 16 21:57:23: Invalid packet (too small) length=0
  Nov 16 21:57:35: Invalid packet (too small) length=0
  Nov 16 21:57:48: Invalid packet (too small) length=0
  Nov 16 21:57:49: Invalid packet (too small) length=0
  Nov 16 21:57:57: Invalid packet (too small) length=0
  Nov 16 21:58:00 MET: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor xxx.xxx.xxx.4 Down BGP
  Notification sent
  Nov 16 21:58:00 MET: %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: sent to neighbor
  xxx.xxx.xxx.4 4/0 (hold time expired) 0 bytes
  [..]
 
  The cpu usage went up to 100% a couple of seconds, and the router lost
  some BGP peers.
 
  The router is a 7606 with Sup720-3BXL, ios:
  s72033-adventerprisek9_wan- mz.122-18.SXF6.bin
 
  Any suggestions?

 Hmm, could this have been an attack on your router/infrastructure or a
 broken NIC sending these frames? Could be tricky to analyze (if you
 want, you would need to set up span port and work from there, but enable
 no mls verify ip length minimum to actually forward these illegal
 packets).
 You can also investigate using Control plane policing to protect the
 RP..

 oli


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 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:34:33 +0100
 From: Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer)  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] OSPF summarization
 To: Michael Malitsky [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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 Michael Malitsky  wrote on Monday, November 19, 2007 2:04 AM:

  Hello,
 
  Looking for help with summarizing routes in OSPF.  I have a VPN
   headend which populates a bunch of host routes into OSPF.  The
  routes are contiguous, so I want to aggregate them.  The headend
  itself lacks such functionality, so I am trying to do this on the
  next OSPF-capable device, which is a PIX v.7.2(2)23.  PIX and VPN
  headend are in area 1, everything else is area 0.  On the PIX the
  host routes show up as O E2 - OSPF external type 2.  I've tried
  configuring an interarea summary: area 0 range 192.168.3.0
  255.255.255.0
  That doesn't seem to do anything at all.  I've also tried an external
   summary: summary-address 192.168.3.0 255.255.255.0
  Also does nothing.

 you can only summarize external routes on the ASBR. Depending on the
 topology, you could split the OSPF domain in two and use two different
 OSPF processes, redistributing between each other. But I would only
 consider this if the pain is too high. How many externals do you inject?


 oli


 

Re: [c-nsp] WRR between LSP's

2007-11-19 Thread Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer)
Padmavathi Chilukoori  wrote on Monday, November 19, 2007 1:16 PM:

 Hi Oli,
 
 We have a scenario as below;
 
 (LSR)
 ( LER) [ A ]-[ B ]==[ C ] (LER)
 |
 |
   [ D ]
( LER )
 
 Following are the 2 signalled LSP's,
 
 LSP1: A---B---C : with X bandwidth.
 LSP2: D---B---C : with Y bandwidth.
 
 These two LSP's are sharing the same link between LSR [B] and LER
 [c], Now, 
 
 1:  We want to gaurantee LSP1 with X bandwidth, and LSP2 with Y
  bandwidth. At LSR [B] how this bandwidths are gauranteed?  Is
 there any scheduler applied for this, if  so, how? what exactly 
 reservation  of bandwidth means?
 
 2:  If LSP1 is not utilizing its X bandwidth, then we want LSP2 to
 get that bandwidth utilized.
 
 How to implement these in Cisco Router  what are the features
 required? 

Ah, now I understand. Well, RSVP TE is a pure signalling protocol. We
will perform admission control based on reserved bandwidth, but we will
not enforce the BW reservation using any Per-Hop Behaviour (i.e. no
queues will actually be programmed). This is still a DiffServ QoS
architecture, so you will need to work with regular MPLS QoS with
EXP-bits and see how you can implement this on the intermediate hops. 

oli
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[c-nsp] Basic QoS/Rate limiting

2007-11-19 Thread Dave Weis

Is there an easy way on a 2800 to enforce per client speed limits for 
ethernet connected clients? Ideally I would like to control them to X 
kbps down and Y kbps up. The switches the clients are connected to don't 
have any rate limiting capability. If this isn't possible is there a 
simple way to enforce some fairness per client?

dave


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[c-nsp] OSPF, summarization, areas etc.

2007-11-19 Thread Primoz Jeroncic
Hi guys

Before I go back to books and try to find out this hard way, I'm hoping
someone can jump for help, and support my laziness :)
Due to some legacy reasons we had pretty bad OSPF setup here. Now I finally
started to move things further, but I have few problems. Or maybe they are
not problems, but just misunderstanding.

Until recently we had all our network in one single area (not area 0). Now I
moved our backbone to area 0, while keeping most of spokes in old area
(area 100).

I will be moving these spokes to different areas later on, but I would like to
clarify few things first.
So currently our config looks like this:

router A -- area 100 - Router B - area 0 - Router C - area 200 - Router D
router E -- area 100 - |

Now my question. I understood all this so, that on Router D (in area 200) I
wouldn't see all subnets in area 100, but summarized networks or even no area
100 networks. Obviously I'm wrong, or I'm doing something wrong, since I still
see same amount of routes on router D as I did before, when whole network was
in same area (area 100), even if I do summarization on Router B for networks
behind Router A and/or E.

If I'm just doing something wrong, then I would appreciate any suggestion how
to limit routes to same area only, and preferably keep only routes of area 200
and default route on Router D.
Just for info, because I think it does matter. All routes are inserted into
OSPF from static or connected routes on end routers.

PS: Config for OSPF is really simple standar thing...

router ospf 1
 log-adjacency-changes
 redistribute connected subnets
 redistribute static subnets
 network x.x.x.x 0.0.0.0 area 0
 network y.y.y.y 0.0.0.0 area 100
 network z.z.z.z 0.0.0.0 area 100
!
! and for summarization on router B
 area 100 range 10.10.0. 255.255.0.0


Thanks for help in advance
Have fun,
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Re: [c-nsp] OSPF, summarization, areas etc.

2007-11-19 Thread Jon Lewis
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007, Primoz Jeroncic wrote:

 Until recently we had all our network in one single area (not area 0). Now I
 moved our backbone to area 0, while keeping most of spokes in old area
 (area 100).

 I will be moving these spokes to different areas later on, but I would like to
 clarify few things first.
 So currently our config looks like this:

 router A -- area 100 - Router B - area 0 - Router C - area 200 - Router D
 router E -- area 100 - |

 Now my question. I understood all this so, that on Router D (in area 200) I
 wouldn't see all subnets in area 100, but summarized networks or even no area
 100 networks. Obviously I'm wrong, or I'm doing something wrong, since I still
 see same amount of routes on router D as I did before, when whole network was
 in same area (area 100), even if I do summarization on Router B for networks
 behind Router A and/or E.

 PS: Config for OSPF is really simple standar thing...

 router ospf 1
 log-adjacency-changes
 redistribute connected subnets
 redistribute static subnets
 network x.x.x.x 0.0.0.0 area 0
 network y.y.y.y 0.0.0.0 area 100
 network z.z.z.z 0.0.0.0 area 100
 !
 ! and for summarization on router B
 area 100 range 10.10.0. 255.255.0.0

Assuming most of your network's routes come from redistribution of static 
and connected, these are type 2 external routes and will be sent into all 
regular areas.  Summarization of these types of routes can only be done on 
the routers that redistribute them into OSPF, and based on the config you 
posted, you're not doing that.

If you were to make areas 100 and 200 into NSSA's you would see a 
reduction of OSPF routes in those areas and still be able to redistribute 
static and connected from them into their respective areas and the 
backbone.

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[c-nsp] Symmetric load-splitting with CEF

2007-11-19 Thread Tomas Daniska
Hi all,

I am aware that symmetric load splitting to transparent stateful devices
(such as IPS, SCE etc...) is possible with EtherChanneling (with some
careful balancing algorithm design), and is available on c6k5 for some
time.

But - c6k5 do not support cross-chassis EtherChannels with current
supervisors; so if topological redundancy is required, L2-based LB is
not the way to go. I've noticed someone somewhere saying this is also
possible with CEF at L3, but I can find no reference for such solutions.

Can anyone advise me please...


thanks much


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Re: [c-nsp] Symmetric load-splitting with CEF

2007-11-19 Thread Fred Reimer
Yes, interchassis EtherChannel is now supported with Cisco's VSS
technology.

Thanks,

Fred Reimer, CISSP, CCNP, CQS-VPN, CQS-ISS
Senior Network Engineer
Coleman Technologies, Inc.
954-298-1697




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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tomas Daniska
 Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 9:06 AM
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [c-nsp] Symmetric load-splitting with CEF
 
 Hi all,
 
 I am aware that symmetric load splitting to transparent
 stateful devices
 (such as IPS, SCE etc...) is possible with EtherChanneling
 (with some
 careful balancing algorithm design), and is available on
 c6k5 for some
 time.
 
 But - c6k5 do not support cross-chassis EtherChannels with
 current
 supervisors; so if topological redundancy is required, L2-
 based LB is
 not the way to go. I've noticed someone somewhere saying
 this is also
 possible with CEF at L3, but I can find no reference for
 such solutions.
 
 Can anyone advise me please...
 
 
 thanks much
 
 
 --
 
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 systems engineer
 
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 Plynarenska 5, 829 75 Bratislava, Slovakia
 tel: +421 2 58224111, fax: +421 2 58224199
 
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 the fuse by
 blowing first.
 
 
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Re: [c-nsp] Basic QoS/Rate limiting

2007-11-19 Thread Aman Chugh
Yes, You could create a vlan for each client/clients and then have rate
limiting done on sub interface vlan interface on your router.

Aman


On 11/19/07, Dave Weis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Is there an easy way on a 2800 to enforce per client speed limits for
 ethernet connected clients? Ideally I would like to control them to X
 kbps down and Y kbps up. The switches the clients are connected to don't
 have any rate limiting capability. If this isn't possible is there a
 simple way to enforce some fairness per client?

 dave


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[c-nsp] etherchannel problems

2007-11-19 Thread Holemans Wim
We just got bitten by a serious etherchannel problem : we have an 2 gig
etherchannel link between 2 campus.
Someone on the other end misconfigured an interface (typed 6/1 instead
of 1/6)  and had overwritten the allowed vlans on one of the interfaces.
As a result of this, the interface was thrown out of the bundle (at that
side only) BUT the interface stayed UP. On the other campus, both
interfaces 
stayed in the bundle with very big problems as a result : the 6500 at
that side considered both lines as valid and distributed the packets
over both interfaces, sending half of the traffic in 'space'. 

If the interface had gone down as a result of the unbundling, there
would have been no problem. We only use static channel settings, so not
etherchannel negotiations between switches. Can this be solved with
dynamic etherchannel bundling ? Or someone has another solution for this
problem ?

Wim Holemans
Networkservices University of Antwerp
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Re: [c-nsp] Symmetric load-splitting with CEF

2007-11-19 Thread Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer)
Tomas Daniska  wrote on Monday, November 19, 2007 3:06 PM:

 Hi all,
 
 I am aware that symmetric load splitting to transparent stateful
 devices (such as IPS, SCE etc...) is possible with EtherChanneling
 (with some careful balancing algorithm design), and is available on
 c6k5 for some time.

Right, but I would not call this symmetric. You always need a
sufficiently large number of flows to achieve symmetric load.

 But - c6k5 do not support cross-chassis EtherChannels with current
 supervisors; so if topological redundancy is required, L2-based LB is
 not the way to go. I've noticed someone somewhere saying this is also
 possible with CEF at L3, but I can find no reference for such
 solutions. 

Yes, regular CEF load-balancing also achieves a similar result, with the
same caveat as above.

oli
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Re: [c-nsp] etherchannel problems

2007-11-19 Thread Phil Bedard
If you were using LACP then this should have taken the remote side out  
of the Etherchannel as well.  There is no knob to take the interface  
down during these conditions, but dynamic negotiation should solve the  
issue.

Phil

On Nov 19, 2007, at 11:11 AM, Holemans Wim wrote:

 We just got bitten by a serious etherchannel problem : we have an 2  
 gig
 etherchannel link between 2 campus.
 Someone on the other end misconfigured an interface (typed 6/1 instead
 of 1/6)  and had overwritten the allowed vlans on one of the  
 interfaces.
 As a result of this, the interface was thrown out of the bundle (at  
 that
 side only) BUT the interface stayed UP. On the other campus, both
 interfaces
 stayed in the bundle with very big problems as a result : the 6500 at
 that side considered both lines as valid and distributed the packets
 over both interfaces, sending half of the traffic in 'space'.

 If the interface had gone down as a result of the unbundling, there
 would have been no problem. We only use static channel settings, so  
 not
 etherchannel negotiations between switches. Can this be solved with
 dynamic etherchannel bundling ? Or someone has another solution for  
 this
 problem ?

 Wim Holemans
 Networkservices University of Antwerp
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Re: [c-nsp] Forwarding Netflow traffic to multiple collectors

2007-11-19 Thread Adam Powers
Lancope sells a Flow Replicator for those that want a commercial
solution...

http://www.lancope.com/products/replicator.aspx

It can do both passive replication via packet capture or you can send
directly to the IP of the replicator itself. The source IP is maintained
while the destination IP and port is rewritten based on the rules
configured.

Very similar to UDP Replicator just with reporting, high performance,
appliance-based, support, higher price tag, etc.




On 11/17/07 2:41 PM, Church, Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It's UDP, and I don't believe acknowledged any higher up.  So would it
 be possible to make the destination a directed broadcast address,
 assuming your collectors are (or could be) on the same subnet?
 
 Chuck 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon Bezzina
 Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:46 AM
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [c-nsp] Forwarding Netflow traffic to multiple collectors
 
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I am running 12.2SRB on my 7600s and I currently need to export
 Netflow to 3 collectors. Obviously I cannot because the IOS only
 Supports upto 2 collectors.
 
 Now, I have heard that there is a Linux solution that can transparently,
 Forward netfow to multiple collectors. Anybody is using it and can
 advise
 Me about it?
 
 Thanks in advance
 Regards
 Gordon
 
 
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[c-nsp] Fail-Over solution

2007-11-19 Thread Sebastian Ganschow
Hi,

we've got several customers who have 2 connections to our backbone. Mostly
a connection with  10 mbit/s and a smaller backup connection with up to 2
mbit/s. Currently the second router will be connected with the LAN in case
the primary connection fails.

We would like to implement a solution where the second connection will be
used automatically if the primary one fails.

My first thought was to implement BGP on the customer side with a private
ASN and install a peering with our router. But the hardware doesn't support
BGP.

We've got two scenarios:

1. The customer is connected with a 10 MBit/s LAN Extension and a 2 Mbit/s
D2MS.
The 2 Mbit/s is connected with a Cisco 2600 Series router on the customer
side. But the LAN Extension is directly connected to a switch. Our Backbone
Router is the default router for the customer network. Because of the costs
we don't want to install another router on the customer side. So BGP isn't
working.

2. The customer is connected with a E3 or more and a 2 MBit/s SDSL. For the
E3 we've got a Cisco 2800 Series Router. But the SDSL Connection is handled
by a cisco 878 wich doesn't support BGP.

Any ideas?

Regards
Sebastian



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Re: [c-nsp] VLAN Limits - 2821/3825

2007-11-19 Thread Curtis Doty
11:10am Paul Stewart said:

 Trying to find out what the maximum VLAN's on a 2821 or 3825 is?
 Configuration is router + NM-16ESW card and we'd like to use them as a small
 distribution router at remote sites and assign each port to it's own VLAN -
 I know there's a limit but can't find documentation to back it up...


What does this say?

show vtp status | incl ^Max

../C

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Re: [c-nsp] Basic QoS/Rate limiting

2007-11-19 Thread Dave Weis

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007, Aman Chugh wrote:
 Yes, You could create a vlan for each client/clients and then have rate
 limiting done on sub interface vlan interface on your router.

There's about 100 clients on the network, I was hoping to avoid anything 
that requires individual configurations. That is an option though.

 On 11/19/07, Dave Weis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Is there an easy way on a 2800 to enforce per client speed limits for
 ethernet connected clients? Ideally I would like to control them to X
 kbps down and Y kbps up. The switches the clients are connected to don't
 have any rate limiting capability. If this isn't possible is there a
 simple way to enforce some fairness per client?

 dave


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Re: [c-nsp] etherchannel problems

2007-11-19 Thread Christopher E. Brown

I does seem like dynamic would be more risky, but in practice I have
found that running LACP is alot better than channel mode on.  It takes
a few seconds longer to start up, but does a very good job of protecting
against unbound interfaces.


Holemans Wim wrote:
 We just got bitten by a serious etherchannel problem : we have an 2 gig
 etherchannel link between 2 campus.
 Someone on the other end misconfigured an interface (typed 6/1 instead
 of 1/6)  and had overwritten the allowed vlans on one of the interfaces.
 As a result of this, the interface was thrown out of the bundle (at that
 side only) BUT the interface stayed UP. On the other campus, both
 interfaces 
 stayed in the bundle with very big problems as a result : the 6500 at
 that side considered both lines as valid and distributed the packets
 over both interfaces, sending half of the traffic in 'space'. 
 
 If the interface had gone down as a result of the unbundling, there
 would have been no problem. We only use static channel settings, so not
 etherchannel negotiations between switches. Can this be solved with
 dynamic etherchannel bundling ? Or someone has another solution for this
 problem ?
 
 Wim Holemans
 Networkservices University of Antwerp
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Re: [c-nsp] VLAN Limits - 2821/3825

2007-11-19 Thread Peter Rathlev
On Mon, 2007-11-19 at 13:05 -0800, Curtis Doty wrote:
  Trying to find out what the maximum VLAN's on a 2821 or 3825 is?
  Configuration is router + NM-16ESW card and we'd like to use them as a small
  distribution router at remote sites and assign each port to it's own VLAN -
  I know there's a limit but can't find documentation to back it up...
 
 What does this say?
 
   show vtp status | incl ^Max

That probably doesn't help much on a router. :-)

Instead take a look at this page:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5854/products_qanda_item0900aecd802a9470.shtml#wp9000578
http://www.tinyurl.dk/2251

The VLANS Supported per Platform says that a 2821 with NM-16ESW
supports up to 32 VLANs.

Regards,
Peter Rathlev


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Re: [c-nsp] Basic QoS/Rate limiting

2007-11-19 Thread Peter Rathlev
On Mon, 2007-11-19 at 06:44 -0600, Dave Weis wrote:
 Is there an easy way on a 2800 to enforce per client speed limits for 
 ethernet connected clients? Ideally I would like to control them to X 
 kbps down and Y kbps up. The switches the clients are connected to don't 
 have any rate limiting capability. If this isn't possible is there a 
 simple way to enforce some fairness per client?

You can enable fair-queue on the interface, either directly or via an
existing policy map. This treats each flow in a fair equal way, but
doesn't treat each host equally.

Otherwise I think you can use traffic-shape group w/ per host
access-lists, though it would look a little funny in your interface
configuration.

There's probably some nice 2-line configuration you can use, but only
that really smart people know it. :-)

Regards,
Peter Rathlev


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Re: [c-nsp] VLAN Limits - 2821/3825

2007-11-19 Thread Paul Stewart
Thanks very much... yes, that answers my concerns ;)  I knew the limits
weren't overly high but for our use (one VLAN per port) this works quite
well...

Thanks again,

Paul


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Rathlev
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 5:39 PM
To: cisco-nsp
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] VLAN Limits - 2821/3825

On Mon, 2007-11-19 at 13:05 -0800, Curtis Doty wrote:
  Trying to find out what the maximum VLAN's on a 2821 or 3825 is?
  Configuration is router + NM-16ESW card and we'd like to use them as a
small
  distribution router at remote sites and assign each port to it's own
VLAN -
  I know there's a limit but can't find documentation to back it up...
 
 What does this say?
 
   show vtp status | incl ^Max

That probably doesn't help much on a router. :-)

Instead take a look at this page:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5854/products_qanda_item0900aecd802a94
70.shtml#wp9000578
http://www.tinyurl.dk/2251

The VLANS Supported per Platform says that a 2821 with NM-16ESW
supports up to 32 VLANs.

Regards,
Peter Rathlev


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[c-nsp] Cat3750 crash 12.2(40)SE

2007-11-19 Thread Dale Shaw
Hi all,

Has anyone seen this crash? Happened on a 2-member Cat3750-12S-E
stack. All I did was change the IP address on a Port-channel interface
and it died on me.

I literally just went: conf t, int po1, ip address a.b.c.d
255.255.255.0 enter and it fell over. First it crashed the stack
master (switch 1), then I logged in again and tried exactly the same
thing and it crashed the master (switch 2). I wasn't game to try it
again.

Bug Toolkit wasn't helpful.

Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED: System previously crashed with
the following message:
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED: Cisco IOS Software, C3750
Software (C3750-IPSERVICESK9-M), Version 12.2(40)SE, RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc3)
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED: Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco
Systems, Inc.
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED: Compiled Fri 24-Aug-07 00:53 by myl
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED:
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED: Debug Exception (Could be NULL
pointer dereference) Exception (0x2000)!
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED:
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED: SRR0 = 0x013E6CF4  SRR1 =
0x00029230  SRR2 = 0x005BA610  SRR3 = 0x00021000
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED: ESR = 0x  DEAR =
0x  TSR = 0x8C00  DBSR = 0x0100
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED:
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED: CPU Register Context:
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED: Vector = 0x2000  PC =
0x00CF4A50  MSR = 0x00029230  CR = 0x2044
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED: LR = 0x00CEA954  CTR =
0x00CC3A44  XER = 0x6004
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED: R0 = 0x00CEA954  R1 = 0x0424C048
 R2 = 0x  R3 = 0x042029CC
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED: R4 = 0x  R5 = 0x0001
 R6 = 0x  R7 = 0x
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED: R8 = 0x03F14174  R9 = 0x0003
 R10 = 0x  R11 = 0x
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED: R12 = 0x041DD5E0  R13 =
0x0011  R14 = 0x010205B4  R15 = 0x
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED: R16 = 0x  R17 =
0x  R18 = 0x025B  R19 = 0x025A8F78
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED: R20 = 0x025B  R21 =
0x025B  R22 = 0x025B  R23 = 0x042A42CC
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED: R24 = 0x041DD418  R25 =
0x041DF534  R26 = 0x  R27 = 0x0001
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED: R28 = 0x041DF534  R29 =
0x  R30 = 0x042029CC  R31 = 0x
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED:
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED: Stack trace:
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED: PC = 0x00CF4A50, SP = 0x0424C048
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED: Frame 00: SP = 0x0424C070PC
= 0x
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED: Frame 01: SP = 0x0424C0A8PC
= 0x00CEA954
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED: Frame 02: SP = 0x0424C0D0PC
= 0x00CE81EC
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED: Frame 03: SP = 0x0424C0F8PC
= 0x01045488
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED: Frame 04: SP = 0x0424C110PC
= 0x010455A0
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED: Frame 05: SP = 0x0424C148PC
= 0x010245E8
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED: Frame 06: SP = 0x0424C1A8PC
= 0x0102099C
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED: Frame 07: SP = 0x0424C1B0PC
= 0x0092220C
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED: Frame 08: SP = 0xPC
= 0x00918EE0
Nov 20 13:22:47: %PLATFORM-1-CRASHED:
Nov 20 13:23:56: %STACKMGR-4-SWITCH_REMOVED: Switch 2 has been REMOVED
from the stack
Nov 20 13:23:56: %STACKMGR-4-MASTER_ELECTED: Switch 1 has been elected
as MASTER of the stack
Nov 20 13:23:56: %CFGMGR-6-APPLYING_RUNNING_CFG: as new master
Nov 20 13:23:56: %SYS-6-CLOCKUPDATE: System clock has been updated
from 13:23:56 AEDT Tue Nov 20 2007 to 13:23:56 AEDT Tue Nov 20 2007,
configured from console by vty0.
Nov 20 13:23:56: %SYS-6-CLOCKUPDATE: System clock has been updated
from 13:23:56 AEDT Tue Nov 20 2007 to 13:23:56 AEDT Tue Nov 20 2007,
configured from console by vty0.
Nov 20 13:23:57: %STACKMGR-5-MASTER_READY: Master Switch 1 is READY
Nov 20 13:23:58: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Port-channel1, changed state to up
Nov 20 13:23:58: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Port-channel2, changed state to up
Nov 20 13:23:58: %LINK-5-CHANGED: Interface Vlan1, changed state to
administratively down
Nov 20 13:23:58: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Vlan20, changed state to up
Nov 20 13:23:58: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Vlan100, changed state to up
Nov 20 13:23:59: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
Port-channel1, changed state to up
Nov 20 13:23:59: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
Port-channel2, changed state to up
Nov 20 13:23:59: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
Vlan20, changed state to up
Nov 20 13:23:59: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
Vlan100, changed state to up
Nov 20 13:24:52: %STACKMGR-4-STACK_LINK_CHANGE: Stack Port 1 Switch 1
has changed to state UP
Nov 20 13:24:52: %DUAL-5-NBRCHANGE: EIGRP-IPv4:(293) 500: Neighbor
10.61.8.122 (Vlan100) is up: new adjacency

Re: [c-nsp] Basic QoS/Rate limiting

2007-11-19 Thread a. rahman isnaini r. sutan
Hi,


I've done this before very well by inserting bwmanager box as a bridge 
(fortunately it's ethernet type).
As Cisco didn't give any better optioan rather than create per IP customer 
access-list to match again rate-limit / traffic shape on the interface.

BWmanager box was : ETINC and now replaced with MIKROTIK and running dynamic 
bandwidth rule.

rgs,
a. rahman isnaini r. sutan
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- Original Message - 
From: Dave Weis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Aman Chugh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 4:59 AM
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Basic QoS/Rate limiting



 On Mon, 19 Nov 2007, Aman Chugh wrote:
 Yes, You could create a vlan for each client/clients and then have rate
 limiting done on sub interface vlan interface on your router.

 There's about 100 clients on the network, I was hoping to avoid anything
 that requires individual configurations. That is an option though.

 On 11/19/07, Dave Weis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Is there an easy way on a 2800 to enforce per client speed limits for
 ethernet connected clients? Ideally I would like to control them to X
 kbps down and Y kbps up. The switches the clients are connected to don't
 have any rate limiting capability. If this isn't possible is there a
 simple way to enforce some fairness per client?

 dave


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