Re: [c-nsp] DFC-3C vs DFC-3CXL

2009-01-27 Thread Phil Mayers

Marlon Duksa wrote:

Ok. Thanks. This is what I wanted to know. I was aware of the difference in
scaling numbers and the ability to allocate space for mpls labels, IPv4
routes...What I was confused about was the price difference (List Price) -
which is up to $US 60K (for ES+40) cards between the two versions (non-XL
and XL). It's very odd that such a big discrepancy in price is coming from
the size of the TCAM.Thanks,


It's a marketing thing. If you need a full internet routing table (which 
the non-XL PFC/DFC can no longer hold) you must be a provider and 
willing to pay provider prices, right?

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[c-nsp] %VRF: does not exist

2009-01-27 Thread jcovini
Hi,

Im trying to setup IP SLA IpIcmpEcho monitor inside a VRF, onto a C3560 running
12.2(35)SE5.

However, Im facing an error msg stating my vrf doesn't exist :

Switch#show ip vrf Internet
  Name Default RD  Interfaces
  Internet 1:1 Gi0/28
   Vl335
Switch#conf t
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
Switch(config)#rtr 2
Switch(config-rtr-echo)#vrf Internet ?
LINEcr

Switch(config-rtr-echo)#vrf Internet
%VRF: Internet  does not exist
Switch(config-rtr-echo)#

any clue ?!

Jerome Covini

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Re: [c-nsp] %VRF: does not exist

2009-01-27 Thread jcovini
You made my day, thanks



Selon Gert Doering g...@greenie.muc.de:

 Hi,

 On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:23:01AM +0100, jcov...@free.fr wrote:
  Switch(config-rtr-echo)#vrf Internet
  %VRF: Internet  does not exist
  Switch(config-rtr-echo)#

 From the error message this looks like you typed Internetblank here
 - and quite some parts of the IOS parser are sensitive to trailing blanks.

 gert
 --
 USENET is *not* the non-clickable part of WWW!

 //www.muc.de/~gert/
 Gert Doering - Munich, Germany
 g...@greenie.muc.de
 fax: +49-89-35655025
 g...@net.informatik.tu-muenchen.de



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[c-nsp] OSPF SNMP MIB with multiple ospf router processes

2009-01-27 Thread Phil Stoneman
Hi folks

We have a 7600 router that speaks OSPF. We use a bunch of SNMP polling
under the SNMP MIB (1.3.6.1.2.1.14), to look at the OSPF neighbor
table.

We'd like our router sitting as an ABR, so we're looking at creating a
new OSPF router process to sit in the second area.

The trouble is, when we create a new router, our SNMP alerting system
queries start to return the second processes' neighbor table. This
kicks up an alert and generally isn't what we want!

Does anyone know a way to work around this and specify which OSPF
process should be exposed via SNMP?

Thanks

Phil
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[c-nsp] PIX 6.3.3 Failover Problem

2009-01-27 Thread ChrisSerafin
I have a pair of 525 PIX's running 6.3.3 (old I know, downtime 
preventing upgarde/hardware swap out) that just decided to start 
throwing failover errors.


I saw this in the logs from the time of the failure:
Jan 23 15:39:33 elm-pix-1 Jan 23 2009 15:39:33: %PIX-1-709003: (Primary) 
Beginning configuration replication: Send to mate.
Jan 23 15:39:34 elm-pix-1 Jan 23 2009 15:39:34: %PIX-1-709003: (Primary) 
Beginning configuration replication: Send to mate.
Jan 23 15:39:34 elm-pix-1 Jan 23 2009 15:39:34: %PIX-1-709003: (Primary) 
Beginning configuration replication: Send to mate.
Jan 23 15:39:35 elm-pix-1 Jan 23 2009 15:39:35: %PIX-1-709003: (Primary) 
Beginning configuration replication: Send to mate.
Jan 23 15:39:49 elm-pix-2 Jan 23 2009 15:39:49: %PIX-1-709006: 
(Secondary) End Configuration Replication (STB)
Jan 23 15:39:49 elm-pix-1 Jan 23 2009 15:39:49: %PIX-1-709004: (Primary) 
End Configuration Replication (ACT)
Jan 23 15:41:30 elm-pix-1 Jan 23 2009 15:41:30: %PIX-1-709003: (Primary) 
Beginning configuration replication: Send to mate.
Jan 23 15:41:44 elm-pix-2 Jan 23 2009 15:41:44: %PIX-1-709006: 
(Secondary) End Configuration Replication (STB)
Jan 23 15:41:44 elm-pix-1 Jan 23 2009 15:41:44: %PIX-1-709004: (Primary) 
End Configuration Replication (ACT)
Jan 23 18:26:34 elm-pix-2 Jan 23 2009 18:26:34: %PIX-1-105005: 
(Secondary) Lost Failover communications with mate on interface 1
Jan 23 18:26:34 elm-pix-2 Jan 23 2009 18:26:34: %PIX-1-105008: 
(Secondary) Testing Interface 1
Jan 23 18:26:45 elm-pix-1 Jan 23 2009 18:26:45: %PIX-1-103005: (Primary) 
Other firewall reporting failure.


Then after getting to the unit and unplugging and reconnecting the 
failover cable, I saw this:
Jan 27 07:25:36 elm-pix-1 Jan 27 2009 07:25:36: %PIX-1-709003: (Primary) 
Beginning configuration replication: Send to mate.
Jan 27 07:25:50 elm-pix-2 Jan 27 2009 07:25:50: %PIX-1-709006: 
(Secondary) End Configuration Replication (STB)
Jan 27 07:25:50 elm-pix-1 Jan 27 2009 07:25:50: %PIX-1-709004: (Primary) 
End Configuration Replication (ACT)
Jan 27 09:20:47 elm-pix-2 Jan 27 2009 09:20:47: %PIX-1-101004: 
(Secondary) Failover cable not connected (other unit)
Jan 27 09:20:51 elm-pix-1 Jan 27 2009 09:20:51: %PIX-1-101003: 
(Secondary) Failover cable not connected (this unit)
*Jan 27 09:21:17 elm-pix-2 Jan 27 2009 09:21:17: %PIX-1-101001: 
(Secondary) Failover cable OK.
Jan 27 09:21:21 elm-pix-1 Jan 27 2009 09:21:21: %PIX-1-101001: (Primary) 
Failover cable OK.*
Jan 27 09:21:37 elm-pix-1 Jan 27 2009 09:21:37: %PIX-1-709003: (Primary) 
Beginning configuration replication: Send to mate.
Jan 27 09:21:51 elm-pix-2 Jan 27 2009 09:21:51: %PIX-1-709006: 
(Secondary) End Configuration Replication (STB)
Jan 27 09:21:51 elm-pix-1 Jan 27 2009 09:21:51: %PIX-1-709004: (Primary) 
End Configuration Replication (ACT)
Jan 27 09:23:37 elm-pix-1 Jan 27 2009 09:23:37: %PIX-1-709003: (Primary) 
Beginning configuration replication: Send to mate.
Jan 27 09:23:51 elm-pix-2 Jan 27 2009 09:23:51: %PIX-1-709006: 
(Secondary) End Configuration Replication (STB)
Jan 27 09:23:51 elm-pix-1 Jan 27 2009 09:23:51: %PIX-1-709004: (Primary) 
End Configuration Replication (ACT)


So I can then do a wr standby on the primary BUT I DO NOT see the 
'starting to sync', and I get this from the 'sh failover'..failover 
config below as well:

ELM-PIX525-1(config)# sh fail
Failover On
Cable status: Normal
Reconnect timeout 0:00:00
Poll frequency 15 seconds
failover replication http
Last Failover at: 09:14:49 CST Fri Mar 28 2008
   This host: Primary - Active
   Active time: 26707815 (sec)
   Interface outside (65.166.254.2): Normal
   Interface inside (10.200.1.249): Normal
   Interface EDMZ1 (172.30.1.1): Normal
   Interface EDMZ2 (0.0.0.0): Link Down (Shutdown)
   Interface MGT (10.200.1.125): Link Down (Waiting)
   Interface intf5 (172.27.0.1): Normal
   Other host: Secondary - Standby (Failed)
   Active time: 0 (sec)
   Interface outside (65.166.254.3): Normal
   Interface inside (10.200.1.250): Normal
   Interface EDMZ1 (172.30.1.3): Normal
   Interface EDMZ2 (172.31.1.3): Link Down (Shutdown)
   Interface MGT (10.200.1.126): Link Down (Waiting)
   Interface intf5 (172.27.0.2): Normal

failover
failover timeout 0:00:00
failover poll 15
failover replication http
failover ip address outside xx.xx.254.3
failover ip address inside 10.200.1.250
failover ip address EDMZ1 172.30.1.3
failover ip address EDMZ2 172.31.1.3
failover ip address MGT 10.200.1.126
failover ip address intf5 172.27.0.2
failover link intf5




Thanks for any help

Chris Serafin
ch...@chrisserafin.com







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[c-nsp] routed port on 6500?

2009-01-27 Thread Kevin Edmunds
Hi,

I have a 6500 which still runs CatOS for switching and IOS for routing, is
it possible make standard switch ports into routed ports in this current
setup? (just like a 3750 for example)

Thanks and regards,

Kev
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Re: [c-nsp] routed port on 6500?

2009-01-27 Thread Peter Rathlev
On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 15:49 +, Kevin Edmunds wrote:
 I have a 6500 which still runs CatOS for switching and IOS for routing, is
 it possible make standard switch ports into routed ports in this current
 setup? (just like a 3750 for example)

AFAIK: No. When running native IOS the system actually reserves an
internal VLAN (show vlan internal usage) for routed ports. When using
hybrid you'd probably have to reserve some VLAN for this, make the
physical port an access port in this VLAN and then configure the SVI on
the MSFC.

The CatOS CLI wouldn't stop you from using this VLAN on another port,
e.g. an open trunk, so it's not completely the same. But I think it
would work in the same way inside the box.

Regards,
Peter


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Re: [c-nsp] routed port on 6500?

2009-01-27 Thread Jerome Covini

Peter Rathlev a écrit :

On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 15:49 +, Kevin Edmunds wrote:
  

I have a 6500 which still runs CatOS for switching and IOS for routing, is
it possible make standard switch ports into routed ports in this current
setup? (just like a 3750 for example)



AFAIK: No. When running native IOS the system actually reserves an
internal VLAN (show vlan internal usage) for routed ports. When using
hybrid you'd probably have to reserve some VLAN for this, make the
physical port an access port in this VLAN and then configure the SVI on
the MSFC.

The CatOS CLI wouldn't stop you from using this VLAN on another port,
e.g. an open trunk, so it's not completely the same. But I think it
would work in the same way inside the box.

Regards,
Peter


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Also you'd better make sure you don't send any BPDU off that port, in 
order to truly emulate a routed port.

Depending on what you're connecting too, thought.

Jerome Covini
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Re: [c-nsp] RES: PBR on a VRF interface?

2009-01-27 Thread Rodney Dunn
I *think* you will have to wait for the next feature release of 12.4T to
get it as it's surely not in 12.2(40) code.

Or the code appears in 12.2(33)SRC3.

Rodney

On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 06:50:27PM -0200, Jacson Gimenes Santos wrote:
 Use set ip vrf XX next-hop x.x.x.x
 
 Jacson Gimenes Santos
 Analista Suporte Sr.
 Fone: 55 51 35989613
 Cisco Certified Network Professional 
 -Mensagem original-
 De: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
 [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] Em nome de Brandon Price
 Enviada em: segunda-feira, 26 de janeiro de 2009 18:33
 Para: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Assunto: [c-nsp] PBR on a VRF interface?
 
 Just trying to setup a simple next hop PBR on an interface in a VRF and I
 get the following output:
 
 % Policy Based Routing is NOT supported for VRF interfaces
 % IP-Policy can be used ONLY for marking (set/clear DF bit) on VRF
 interfaces
 
 Is this a version of code problem I'm having?
 
 IOS (tm) 7200 Software (C7200-IS-M), Version 12.2(40), RELEASE SOFTWARE
 (fc1)
 c7200-is-mz.122-40.bin
 
 
 What gives?
 
 
 Router#show route-map CUSTA2
 route-map CUSTA2, permit, sequence 10
   Match clauses:
 ip address (access-lists): 191 
   Set clauses:
 ip next-hop 172.16.1.194
   Policy routing matches: 0 packets, 0 bytes
 
 
 Router#show access-list 191
 Extended IP access list 191
 permit ip 10.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 10.28.2.0 0.0.0.255
 Router#
 
 
 Router#show run int gi4/0.37
 Building configuration...
 
 Current configuration : 130 bytes
 !
 interface GigabitEthernet4/0.37
  encapsulation dot1Q 37
  ip vrf forwarding CUSTA
  ip address 172.16.1.198 255.255.255.252
 end
 
 Router#config t
 Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
 Router(config)#interface GigabitEthernet4/0.37
 Router(config-subif)#ip policy route-map CUSTA2
 % Policy Based Routing is NOT supported for VRF interfaces
 % IP-Policy can be used ONLY for marking (set/clear DF bit) on VRF
 interfaces
 Router(config-subif)#end
 Router#
 
 
 
 
 Brandon Price
 Network Engineer? |? Sterling Communications, Inc.
 503.968.8908 x248 | 503.270.5285 fax | www.sterling.net
 Voice | Internet | Fax | CoLocation
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Re: [c-nsp] upgrading stack of 3750E's

2009-01-27 Thread Holemans Wim
(I'm the one who posted the original question).
Just tested it again with a second stack of 3750E's ; this gave the same
result :
Upgrading from 12.2.2(35) to 12.2.(46) and reload of second switch gave
a Version Mismatch with left the second switch hanging. Only a reload of
the master restored full functionality.
After that, I replaced the ip base image with the one with encryption
(k9 version), however same versionnumber 12.2(46). This went as
described below, second one came back online and became again member of
the stack without problem allowing reload of first one.
 
So my conclusion is that the possibility to upgrade a stack without
losing full connectivity is different for each upgrade and you can't
tell in advance if it will result in a version mismatch or not. 

Feel free to comment if you have different experiences.

Wim Holemans

-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Peter Rathlev
Sent: maandag 26 januari 2009 19:38
To: Tony Varriale
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] upgrading stack of 3750E's

On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 08:45 -0600, Tony Varriale wrote:
 This is how I normally do it.
 
 1) archive software to first switch /overwrite (from TFTP) without
reload.
 2) archive software to second switch /overwrite without reload.
 3) reload slot 1
 4) wait until switch 1 is operational and you are happy
 5) reload slot 2

Will this work? Wouldn't Stackwise see the two switches as incompatible?
We've started using pairs of 3750E with a CX4 link between them and just
plain rapid PVST+. Then we have some guarantees as to how the system
functions during upgrades.

Regards,
Peter


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[c-nsp] QoS with Voice and Video

2009-01-27 Thread Higham, Josh
This isn't specifically Cisco but hopefully is fairly on-topic.

What is the best practice (and real world) handling for voice and video
queues?

I am working on QoS implementation over our enterprise WAN (provider
supplied MPLS) and was told that it was ok to combine voice and video in
the priority queue, or even put video as priority and give voice a
dedicated, but not priority, class.

This is counter to everything that I knew/heard, which is that voice is
low bandwidth and not bursty, where video is high bandwidth and bursty,
so it could starve other queues.

My options are:

 * voice as priority, with video dedicated non-priority
 * voice and video combined as priority
 * video as priority, with voice dedicated non-priority

Does the queue starvation concern only matter if the priority queue is
using near 100% of the circuit?  I do have the ability to control the
bandwidth used at other points if that helps.  I want to avoid creating
jitter in either the voice or video classes.  Does anyone have any input
or references about what the best approach is?

Thanks,
Josh
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Re: [c-nsp] PIX 6.3.3 Failover Problem (Solved)

2009-01-27 Thread ChrisSerafin

This resolved the issue:

-Use the failover reset command on the primary-active unit to recover 
the standby from the failed state.




http://cisco.com/en/US/docs/security/pix/pix63/command/reference/df.html#wp1029143 





-Reload the standby unit if the failover reset does not help.





ChrisSerafin wrote:
I have a pair of 525 PIX's running 6.3.3 (old I know, downtime 
preventing upgarde/hardware swap out) that just decided to start 
throwing failover errors.


I saw this in the logs from the time of the failure:
Jan 23 15:39:33 elm-pix-1 Jan 23 2009 15:39:33: %PIX-1-709003: 
(Primary) Beginning configuration replication: Send to mate.
Jan 23 15:39:34 elm-pix-1 Jan 23 2009 15:39:34: %PIX-1-709003: 
(Primary) Beginning configuration replication: Send to mate.
Jan 23 15:39:34 elm-pix-1 Jan 23 2009 15:39:34: %PIX-1-709003: 
(Primary) Beginning configuration replication: Send to mate.
Jan 23 15:39:35 elm-pix-1 Jan 23 2009 15:39:35: %PIX-1-709003: 
(Primary) Beginning configuration replication: Send to mate.
Jan 23 15:39:49 elm-pix-2 Jan 23 2009 15:39:49: %PIX-1-709006: 
(Secondary) End Configuration Replication (STB)
Jan 23 15:39:49 elm-pix-1 Jan 23 2009 15:39:49: %PIX-1-709004: 
(Primary) End Configuration Replication (ACT)
Jan 23 15:41:30 elm-pix-1 Jan 23 2009 15:41:30: %PIX-1-709003: 
(Primary) Beginning configuration replication: Send to mate.
Jan 23 15:41:44 elm-pix-2 Jan 23 2009 15:41:44: %PIX-1-709006: 
(Secondary) End Configuration Replication (STB)
Jan 23 15:41:44 elm-pix-1 Jan 23 2009 15:41:44: %PIX-1-709004: 
(Primary) End Configuration Replication (ACT)
Jan 23 18:26:34 elm-pix-2 Jan 23 2009 18:26:34: %PIX-1-105005: 
(Secondary) Lost Failover communications with mate on interface 1
Jan 23 18:26:34 elm-pix-2 Jan 23 2009 18:26:34: %PIX-1-105008: 
(Secondary) Testing Interface 1
Jan 23 18:26:45 elm-pix-1 Jan 23 2009 18:26:45: %PIX-1-103005: 
(Primary) Other firewall reporting failure.


Then after getting to the unit and unplugging and reconnecting the 
failover cable, I saw this:
Jan 27 07:25:36 elm-pix-1 Jan 27 2009 07:25:36: %PIX-1-709003: 
(Primary) Beginning configuration replication: Send to mate.
Jan 27 07:25:50 elm-pix-2 Jan 27 2009 07:25:50: %PIX-1-709006: 
(Secondary) End Configuration Replication (STB)
Jan 27 07:25:50 elm-pix-1 Jan 27 2009 07:25:50: %PIX-1-709004: 
(Primary) End Configuration Replication (ACT)
Jan 27 09:20:47 elm-pix-2 Jan 27 2009 09:20:47: %PIX-1-101004: 
(Secondary) Failover cable not connected (other unit)
Jan 27 09:20:51 elm-pix-1 Jan 27 2009 09:20:51: %PIX-1-101003: 
(Secondary) Failover cable not connected (this unit)
*Jan 27 09:21:17 elm-pix-2 Jan 27 2009 09:21:17: %PIX-1-101001: 
(Secondary) Failover cable OK.
Jan 27 09:21:21 elm-pix-1 Jan 27 2009 09:21:21: %PIX-1-101001: 
(Primary) Failover cable OK.*
Jan 27 09:21:37 elm-pix-1 Jan 27 2009 09:21:37: %PIX-1-709003: 
(Primary) Beginning configuration replication: Send to mate.
Jan 27 09:21:51 elm-pix-2 Jan 27 2009 09:21:51: %PIX-1-709006: 
(Secondary) End Configuration Replication (STB)
Jan 27 09:21:51 elm-pix-1 Jan 27 2009 09:21:51: %PIX-1-709004: 
(Primary) End Configuration Replication (ACT)
Jan 27 09:23:37 elm-pix-1 Jan 27 2009 09:23:37: %PIX-1-709003: 
(Primary) Beginning configuration replication: Send to mate.
Jan 27 09:23:51 elm-pix-2 Jan 27 2009 09:23:51: %PIX-1-709006: 
(Secondary) End Configuration Replication (STB)
Jan 27 09:23:51 elm-pix-1 Jan 27 2009 09:23:51: %PIX-1-709004: 
(Primary) End Configuration Replication (ACT)


So I can then do a wr standby on the primary BUT I DO NOT see the 
'starting to sync', and I get this from the 'sh 
failover'..failover config below as well:

ELM-PIX525-1(config)# sh fail
Failover On
Cable status: Normal
Reconnect timeout 0:00:00
Poll frequency 15 seconds
failover replication http
Last Failover at: 09:14:49 CST Fri Mar 28 2008
   This host: Primary - Active
   Active time: 26707815 (sec)
   Interface outside (65.166.254.2): Normal
   Interface inside (10.200.1.249): Normal
   Interface EDMZ1 (172.30.1.1): Normal
   Interface EDMZ2 (0.0.0.0): Link Down (Shutdown)
   Interface MGT (10.200.1.125): Link Down (Waiting)
   Interface intf5 (172.27.0.1): Normal
   Other host: Secondary - Standby (Failed)
   Active time: 0 (sec)
   Interface outside (65.166.254.3): Normal
   Interface inside (10.200.1.250): Normal
   Interface EDMZ1 (172.30.1.3): Normal
   Interface EDMZ2 (172.31.1.3): Link Down (Shutdown)
   Interface MGT (10.200.1.126): Link Down (Waiting)
   Interface intf5 (172.27.0.2): Normal

failover
failover timeout 0:00:00
failover poll 15
failover replication http
failover ip address outside xx.xx.254.3
failover ip address inside 10.200.1.250
failover ip address EDMZ1 172.30.1.3
failover ip address EDMZ2 172.31.1.3
failover ip address MGT 10.200.1.126
failover ip address intf5 

Re: [c-nsp] upgrading stack of 3750E's

2009-01-27 Thread Tony Varriale
Just to clarify...the first switch was upgraded to 46 and reloaded first? 
I'm confused on your steps for 2 switches and the process...


tv
- Original Message - 
From: Holemans Wim wim.holem...@ua.ac.be
To: Peter Rathlev pe...@rathlev.dk; Tony Varriale 
tvarri...@comcast.net

Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 12:38 PM
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] upgrading stack of 3750E's


(I'm the one who posted the original question).
Just tested it again with a second stack of 3750E's ; this gave the same
result :
Upgrading from 12.2.2(35) to 12.2.(46) and reload of second switch gave
a Version Mismatch with left the second switch hanging. Only a reload of
the master restored full functionality.
After that, I replaced the ip base image with the one with encryption
(k9 version), however same versionnumber 12.2(46). This went as
described below, second one came back online and became again member of
the stack without problem allowing reload of first one.

So my conclusion is that the possibility to upgrade a stack without
losing full connectivity is different for each upgrade and you can't
tell in advance if it will result in a version mismatch or not.

Feel free to comment if you have different experiences.

Wim Holemans

-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Peter Rathlev
Sent: maandag 26 januari 2009 19:38
To: Tony Varriale
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] upgrading stack of 3750E's

On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 08:45 -0600, Tony Varriale wrote:

This is how I normally do it.

1) archive software to first switch /overwrite (from TFTP) without

reload.

2) archive software to second switch /overwrite without reload.
3) reload slot 1
4) wait until switch 1 is operational and you are happy
5) reload slot 2


Will this work? Wouldn't Stackwise see the two switches as incompatible?
We've started using pairs of 3750E with a CX4 link between them and just
plain rapid PVST+. Then we have some guarantees as to how the system
functions during upgrades.

Regards,
Peter


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[c-nsp] Campus Network Design advice

2009-01-27 Thread Marc Archer
Hi Guys,

I'm looking for some advice on redesigning our campus network.

We have around 2500 devices on our site which are spread across multiple
buildings. At present the network runs on a (legacy) single flat VLAN which
has caused us more than our fair share of headaches of late. Basically we
are looking at 2 design options :

The first option we have considered is to have a router on a stick at our
core and trunk VLANS out to distribution switches in each building (and on
to workgroup switches etc), leaving all routing to be done at the core. This
would allow us to have all VLANS available in each building but I'm not sure
if this is still going to be a problematic design (with VLANS extended all
over the site).

The other option we have been looking at (see attached) is to have L3
switches as all our distribution switches and contain VLANS to a particular
building. This seems to be a neater solution to me, but I'm not sure of the
best way to connect the distribution switches back to the core. I would also
like to connect adjacent distribution switches together for redundancy, so
I'm wondering if I should be looking at a heap of /30 links between
distribution switches  the core (and run OSPF) - or just use a L2 network
and let STP manage the links.

I havent had much playtime on networks this size so any advice would be
greatly appreciated.

M.
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Re: [c-nsp] Campus Network Design advice

2009-01-27 Thread Brad Hedlund
On 1/27/09 7:50 PM, Marc Archer m...@archernet.id.au wrote:

 The other option we have been looking at (see attached) is to have L3
 switches as all our distribution switches and contain VLANS to a particular
 building. This seems to be a neater solution to me

Agree 100%

 I would also
 like to connect adjacent distribution switches together for redundancy, so
 I'm wondering if I should be looking at a heap of /30 links between
 distribution switches  the core (and run OSPF) - or just use a L2 network
 and let STP manage the links.

Definitely use /30 'no switchport' routed links from Dist to Core.  The Dist
to Dist links, on the other hand, can be L2 or L3.  If the Dist-Dist link is
L3 there is no STP blocking links at the access layer switch and you can use
GLBP for load balancing access uplink traffic, however the tradeoff is that
a VLAN should be confined to a single access layer switch.  Another
potential pitfall here is if you are running voice/video and need fast
convergence, which would require you to configure sub-second timers for GLBP
or HSRP.  With sub second GLBP/HSRP timers running on 150+ VLANs this starts
to wreak havoc on the Dist switch CPU.

If the Dist-Dist link is L2 you have a looped design and STP will do its
thing by blocking one of the access switch uplinks on a per VLAN basis.  The
advantage with this design is that you can have VLANs spread across multiple
access layer switches.  The disadvantage of course is having an STP topology
that blocks links and requires additional troubleshooting.

With Catalyst 6500 as the Dist switch there is of course the option to use
VSS, which will result in no STP blocking links from the access switch, you
can have the same VLAN at any access switch, and fast convergence without
sub second timers.

Cheers,

Brad Hedlund
bhedl...@cisco.com
http://www.internetworkexpert.org



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[c-nsp] Strange NAT Issue on 7200

2009-01-27 Thread Andy Saykao
Hi there,
 
I'm trying to get NAT working on a Cisco 7204VXR (NPE-G1) but can not
see any NAT translations taking place on the router. Running
12.2(31)SB13 on the router.
 
[Internet] - [7200 Router] - [3560G Switch] -- [LAN]
 
Here is the relevant NAT config on the router. It's almost identical to
the config we use on another 7200.
 
interface GigabitEthernet0/2
 description Connect to 3560G Switch:Gi0/9
 no ip address
 ip flow ingress
 load-interval 30
 media-type rj45
 speed 1000
 duplex full
 no negotiation auto
 no clns route-cache
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/2.13
 description NAT Outside Interface
 encapsulation dot1Q 13
 ip address 203.x.x.x 255.255.255.0
 ip nat outside
 ip flow ingress
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/2.12
 description NAT Inside Interface - Office Network
 encapsulation dot1Q 12
 ip address 172.16.70.1 255.255.255.0 secondary
 ip address 210.15.x.x 255.255.255.240
 ip nat inside
 ip flow ingress
 no cdp enable
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/2.99
 description Test
 encapsulation dot1Q 999
 ip address 172.16.72.1 255.255.255.0
 ip nat inside
!
access-list 5 permit 172.16.70.0 0.0.0.255
access-list 5 permit 172.16.72.0 0.0.0.255
!
ip nat inside source list 5 interface GigabitEthernet0/2.13 overload
 
When I do a ping using the inside interface as the source address, I get
no NAT translations taking place.
 
7200#ping www.google.com source 172.16.70.1
Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 66.249.89.147, timeout is 2 seconds:
Packet sent with a source address of 172.16.70.1
.
Success rate is 0 percent (0/5)

7200#sh ip nat statistics
Total active translations: 0 (0 static, 0 dynamic; 0 extended)
Outside interfaces:
  GigabitEthernet0/2.13
Inside interfaces:
  GigabitEthernet0/2.12, GigabitEthernet0/2.99
Hits: 0  Misses: 0
CEF Translated packets: 0, CEF Punted packets: 421379
Expired translations: 0
Dynamic mappings:
-- Inside Source
[Id: 3] access-list 5 interface GigabitEthernet0/2.13 refcount 0

7200#sh access-lists 5
Standard IP access list 5 (Compiled)
10 permit 172.16.70.0, wildcard bits 0.0.0.255
20 permit 172.16.72.0, wildcard bits 0.0.0.255

Any ideas?
 
Thanks.
 
Andy

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Re: [c-nsp] QoS with Voice and Video

2009-01-27 Thread Pelle
Hi.

 This isn't specifically Cisco but hopefully is fairly on-topic.

 What is the best practice (and real world) handling for voice and video
 queues?

That depends on the type of video, is it video conferencing (IP/VC) or
streaming video (IP/TV)? IP/VC are interactive video, and have more or
less the same requirements on latency, jitter and loss as VoIP. IP/TV
on the other hand can handle more latency, jitter and loss.

 I am working on QoS implementation over our enterprise WAN (provider
 supplied MPLS) and was told that it was ok to combine voice and video in
 the priority queue, or even put video as priority and give voice a
 dedicated, but not priority, class.

For IPVC that's ok. The recommendation from Cisco AFAIK is to have
both VoIP and IP/VC in priotity queues.

 Does anyone have any input
 or references about what the best approach is?

Here are a Cisco document:
Service Provider QoS Overview:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/netsol/ns341/ns396/ns172/ns143/networking_solutions_white_paper09186a00801c796d.shtml

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Re: [c-nsp] QoS with Voice and Video

2009-01-27 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson

On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Pelle wrote:

That depends on the type of video, is it video conferencing (IP/VC) or 
streaming video (IP/TV)? IP/VC are interactive video, and have more or 
less the same requirements on latency, jitter and loss as VoIP. IP/TV on 
the other hand can handle more latency, jitter and loss.


I am of another opinion. I don't believe in putting bursty traffic into 
LLQ. LLQ should be used for deterministic traffic (ie 20 pps VOIP or 
equivalent broadcast video with basically fixed pps and bw/s).


Some platforms drop packets when it's over the prio limit and to protect 
from starvation of other classes I recommend putting a policer on the 
priority class anyway.


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