Re: [c-nsp] Anybody here is running IPv6

2009-05-01 Thread Mike Leber


You also might try out Hurricane's free IPv6 certification/training 
service at http://ipv6.he.net/certification


Mike.

Renelson Panosky wrote:

Thank you all for the responses on IPv6 i've learned a lot from you guys and
i feel a lot more comfortable

Renelson

On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Renelson Panosky panocisc...@gmail.comwrote:


Hello fellow Engineers

We are getting ready to start testing IPv6 at my job, if you are running
IPv6 right now please let me how is it working fo you?  I would like to know
the good, the bad and the ugly

Renelson


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Re: [c-nsp] QoS Strategy for Cisco 877

2009-05-01 Thread Steve McCrory
Hi Gary,

Configuring QoS on Cisco 877 routers is actually at the heart of one of
our products.

Can I ask what queuing method you are using, are you using CBWFQ or
Priority queuing?

Steven
 
Steven McCrory
 
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Netservices PLC
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Modwen Road
Manchester, M5 3EZ
 
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Sent: 30 April 2009 21:17
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] QoS Strategy for Cisco 877

Guys,

I've been trying a bunch of different methods, but nothing seems to
achieve what I want. Ideally I'd like to use Priority Queueing (or
something that operates the same) on the ATM0 interface of a Cisco
877.

I have 3 classes of traffic:

Telnet/SSH/ICMP/Management - High Priority
General Data - Default Priority
IP Video Camers - Low Priority

Normally I would just use a priority-list/priority-group, but I can't
seem to apply it to either the ATM0 interface or the ATM0.33 interface
(and I have also tried applying it on the PVC under the subinterface).

I would like all packets in the high priority queue to be serviced
first, then all packets in the default priority, and if there's any
bandwidth leftover, service the low priority queue. I would prefer not
to have to define minimum and maximum bandwidth for each queue (I
don't want any hard queues/bandwidth limits, I would like all
available bandwidth to be used by any particular queue as long as the
queues above it are serviced).

Can anyone recommend a QoS strategy/configuration for this that will
work on the ATM0/DSL interface (no PPPoE) on a Cisco 877?

Thanks,

GG
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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco MPLS interoperability with Mikrotik (or Linux) MPLS

2009-05-01 Thread Danny Vernals
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 5:35 AM, Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.com wrote:
 Have anynone done any testing interoperating Cisco MPLS (Cat 6k or
 7600 families) with Mikrotik (which is just packaging of MPLS Linux) ?
 I'm specially curious about EoMPLS and H-VPLS interoperating, but
 basic LDP/RSVP/MPLS-TE/MPLS-FRR also needs to be addressed, of course.


I can't comment to the Mikrotik aspect but I've played around with
MPLS linux (mpls-linux.sourceforge.net/) a bit recently.  The kernel
label forwarding aspect (including EoMPLS) seems well maintained and
I've managed to get a Linux instance participating with off the shelf
routers in MPLS forwarding.

Label distribution protocols don't seem to be as well maintained, LDP
being the most mature although you'll need to compile from the latest
sources downloaded from the projects' Subversion server.  There are
code trees for Quagga for MP-BGP support although I would consider
this alpha at best.  afaik there is no RSVP or VPLS support yet.




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Re: [c-nsp] Optical module transmit power

2009-05-01 Thread Michael Robson



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On 30 Apr 2009, at 16:08, Dale W. Carder wrote:



On Apr 30, 2009, at 9:37 AM, Michael Robson wrote:

We have a selection of ZR modules (XENPAK-10GB-ZR)


For these modules, none of them are transmitting at anything like  
their maximum of +4.0dBm (Cisco's figures for the maximum transmit  
power), they are in fact transmitting between +1.9dBm and +2.3dBm.


This is to be expected.  Vendors just publish a tolerable
range somewhere in which the optics will operate.

What determines what they will transmit at i.e. is it simply that  
better manufactured ones achieve a transmit value closer to the  
+4.0dBm power level


Maybe it's luck.


As I suspected, ah well.



Anyway, how long are your fiber spans?  If they are really
long, and you're living on the edge now, you may end up in
a sticky situation as these optics degrade over time.

They are very long distances; however these links are just stop gaps  
until we procure our DWDM equipment.




If they are not extremely long, you may have some horrible
jumpers or splices that are eating some dB.  Do you have
an OTDR?

Dale

The circuit supplier quoted dB values for the links on handover which  
should have meant that most of the links would have been within  
acceptable values: perhaps the 6500-quoted values aren't very accurate?




p.s. My fiance did her postgraduate work at Manchester.
Quite a nice place!

Manchester is a great place!

Thanks,

Michael.

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[c-nsp] VSS1440 to ASR1002 - MEC issues

2009-05-01 Thread Alasdair McWilliam

Hello,

I'm currently deploying two Cisco 6509-E chassis with VS-Sup720-10GE  
(in a VSS 1440 cluster/configuration) with dual ASR 1002 routers to  
provide aggregation of multiple upstream links (running multiple BGP  
and EIGRP sessions).


I wanted to utilize MEC between each ASR and each 6509 chassis to  
build in as much resilience as possible. However this configuration  
seems to be playing up and so I thought I'd ask the experts!


Physical Topology:

ASR Gi0/0/0 into 6509 Chassis 1 Module 1 Port 1
ASR Gi0/1/0 into 6509 Chassis 2 Module 1 Port 1

The ASR is running IOS-XE 2.3.0 (IOS 12.2(33)XNC) AISK9 with dual IOS  
processes.
The VSS chassis are running IOS 12.2(33)SXI1 ISK9 with a 4x 10GE VSL  
(2 supervisor 10GE interfaces, 2 10GE interfaces on a 6708-10GE line  
card).
I'm just using CAT6 between the ASR and the 6748-GE-TX line cards in  
the VSS boxes.


ASR configuration:

interface Port-Channel1
ip address x.x.x.5 255.255.255.252
ip hello-interval eigrp 100 2
ip hold-time eigrp 100 6
ip authentication mode eigrp 100 md5
ip authentication key-chian eigrp 100 vcoresw1-chain
ip summary-address eigrp 100 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255
no ip redirects
no ip unreachables
no ip proxy-arp
no shut
!

interface Gi0/0/0
channel-group 1
no shut

interface Gi0/1/0
channel-group 1
no shut

Cisco VSS configuration:

int Gi1/1/1
no switchport
channel-group 3 mode on

int Gi2/1/1
no switchport
channel-group 3 mode on

int Po3
desc *** MEC to br1-po1 ***
no ip redirects
no ip unreachables
no ip proxy-arp
ip vrf forwarding edge-vrf
ip address x.x.x.6 255.255.255.252
ip hello-interval eigrp 100 2
ip hold-time eigrp 100 6
ip authentication mode eigrp 100 md5
ip authentication key-chain eigrp 100 br1-chain
no shut
!



The problem I am experiencing seems to be one way traffic between the  
VSS cluster and the Border Router. Pinging across this /30 subnet does  
not work in either direction. EIGRP relationships build when the Po  
interfaces first come online and then immediately time out moments  
later. The VSS cluster then does not see any further EIGRP traffic  
from the ASR. However the ASR seems to think it's successfully  
building an adjacency to the VSS. However this times out due to 'retry  
limit exceeded' every minute or so, but seems to think it re- 
establishes again.


This problem persists if we drop the PortChannel to just one Gigabit  
Ethernet interface. The second interface can be shut down or actually  
removed from the Po config (eg. no channel-group 1).


The really interesting thing is, with one link, if we remove the  
channel-group comand from the one remaining ASR interface, all of a  
sudden the link springs to life. Pings between the ASR Gi0/0/0  
interface and the Po3 VSS interface are successful. EIGRP relationship  
comes up immediately and is stable, and routes are exchanged as you'd  
expect.


How does this work? With the ASR thinking it's a non-etherchannel  
interface, but the VSS thinking it IS an EtherChannel (with 1 member),  
surely it should just fail?


Am I doing something wrong or could this be a bug in either VSS or the  
ASR?


It's not earth shattering, we could just configure 2 EIGRP sessions  
between the VSS and the ASR (4 in total with 2 ASRs) but don't think  
this is as clean an implementation as MEC across fully redundant  
chassis and line cards (one of the big selling points of the VSS !!)


Any help would be much appreciated!

Thanks
Alasdair


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Re: [c-nsp] Optical module transmit power

2009-05-01 Thread Marian Ďurkovič
On Fri, 1 May 2009 15:05:35 +0100, Michael Robson wrote
 The circuit supplier quoted dB values for the links on handover which  
 should have meant that most of the links would have been within  
 acceptable values: perhaps the 6500-quoted values aren't very accurate?

Values reported by ZR XENPAKs are quite precise, so if they report RX level
which is much worse than expected, you have to look for dirty connectors, faulty
patchcord or the like problems. Our installation team tried to blame XENPAKs for
inacurrate measurements several times, but after closer investigation it always
turned out that the fault was somewhere else. It's nothing uncommon to see 3 dB
extra loss on just one dirty connector.

M.

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Re: [c-nsp] QoS Strategy for Cisco 877

2009-05-01 Thread Steve McCrory
Hi Gary,

I've read through your email again and answered my own question.

My next question would be, have you given thought to the upstream
sync-speed?

Our testing highlighted that when QoS was applied to the pvc, it didn't
seem to function properly unless we applied a vbr-nrt bitrate
configuration which matched the upstream sync-speed e.g.

interface ATM0
 pvc 0/38
  vbr-nrt 832 832
  tx-ring-limit 3
  encapsulation aal5mux ppp dialer
  dialer pool-member 2
  service-policy output dsl-out
  max-reserved-bandwidth 100


Steven
 
Steven McCrory
 
Senior Network Engineer
 
Netservices PLC
Waters Edge Business Park
Modwen Road
Manchester, M5 3EZ
 
www.netservicesplc.com

-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Steve McCrory
Sent: 01 May 2009 12:21
To: gie...@snickers.org; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] QoS Strategy for Cisco 877

Hi Gary,

Configuring QoS on Cisco 877 routers is actually at the heart of one of
our products.

Can I ask what queuing method you are using, are you using CBWFQ or
Priority queuing?

Steven
 
Steven McCrory
 
Senior Network Engineer
 
Netservices PLC
Waters Edge Business Park
Modwen Road
Manchester, M5 3EZ
 
www.netservicesplc.com

-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Gary T. Giesen
Sent: 30 April 2009 21:17
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] QoS Strategy for Cisco 877

Guys,

I've been trying a bunch of different methods, but nothing seems to
achieve what I want. Ideally I'd like to use Priority Queueing (or
something that operates the same) on the ATM0 interface of a Cisco
877.

I have 3 classes of traffic:

Telnet/SSH/ICMP/Management - High Priority
General Data - Default Priority
IP Video Camers - Low Priority

Normally I would just use a priority-list/priority-group, but I can't
seem to apply it to either the ATM0 interface or the ATM0.33 interface
(and I have also tried applying it on the PVC under the subinterface).

I would like all packets in the high priority queue to be serviced
first, then all packets in the default priority, and if there's any
bandwidth leftover, service the low priority queue. I would prefer not
to have to define minimum and maximum bandwidth for each queue (I
don't want any hard queues/bandwidth limits, I would like all
available bandwidth to be used by any particular queue as long as the
queues above it are serviced).

Can anyone recommend a QoS strategy/configuration for this that will
work on the ATM0/DSL interface (no PPPoE) on a Cisco 877?

Thanks,

GG
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Re: [c-nsp] VSS1440 to ASR1002 - MEC issues

2009-05-01 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou


ASR1000 doesn't -yet- support the well-known EtherChannel/LACP. If i remember right, RLS5 
will have it.


There is a feature called VLAN Mapping to Gigabit EtherChannel (GEC) Member Links, but i 
don't think it would help you much, since you have L3 portchannels on both sides.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/lanswitch/configuration/guide/lsw_cfg_gecvlan.html

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Alasdair McWilliam wrote on 01/05/2009 18:29:

Hello,

I'm currently deploying two Cisco 6509-E chassis with VS-Sup720-10GE (in 
a VSS 1440 cluster/configuration) with dual ASR 1002 routers to provide 
aggregation of multiple upstream links (running multiple BGP and EIGRP 
sessions).


I wanted to utilize MEC between each ASR and each 6509 chassis to build 
in as much resilience as possible. However this configuration seems to 
be playing up and so I thought I'd ask the experts!


Physical Topology:

ASR Gi0/0/0 into 6509 Chassis 1 Module 1 Port 1
ASR Gi0/1/0 into 6509 Chassis 2 Module 1 Port 1

The ASR is running IOS-XE 2.3.0 (IOS 12.2(33)XNC) AISK9 with dual IOS 
processes.
The VSS chassis are running IOS 12.2(33)SXI1 ISK9 with a 4x 10GE VSL (2 
supervisor 10GE interfaces, 2 10GE interfaces on a 6708-10GE line card).
I'm just using CAT6 between the ASR and the 6748-GE-TX line cards in the 
VSS boxes.


ASR configuration:

interface Port-Channel1
ip address x.x.x.5 255.255.255.252
ip hello-interval eigrp 100 2
ip hold-time eigrp 100 6
ip authentication mode eigrp 100 md5
ip authentication key-chian eigrp 100 vcoresw1-chain
ip summary-address eigrp 100 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255
no ip redirects
no ip unreachables
no ip proxy-arp
no shut
!

interface Gi0/0/0
channel-group 1
no shut

interface Gi0/1/0
channel-group 1
no shut

Cisco VSS configuration:

int Gi1/1/1
no switchport
channel-group 3 mode on

int Gi2/1/1
no switchport
channel-group 3 mode on

int Po3
desc *** MEC to br1-po1 ***
no ip redirects
no ip unreachables
no ip proxy-arp
ip vrf forwarding edge-vrf
ip address x.x.x.6 255.255.255.252
ip hello-interval eigrp 100 2
ip hold-time eigrp 100 6
ip authentication mode eigrp 100 md5
ip authentication key-chain eigrp 100 br1-chain
no shut
!



The problem I am experiencing seems to be one way traffic between the 
VSS cluster and the Border Router. Pinging across this /30 subnet does 
not work in either direction. EIGRP relationships build when the Po 
interfaces first come online and then immediately time out moments 
later. The VSS cluster then does not see any further EIGRP traffic from 
the ASR. However the ASR seems to think it's successfully building an 
adjacency to the VSS. However this times out due to 'retry limit 
exceeded' every minute or so, but seems to think it re-establishes again.


This problem persists if we drop the PortChannel to just one Gigabit 
Ethernet interface. The second interface can be shut down or actually 
removed from the Po config (eg. no channel-group 1).


The really interesting thing is, with one link, if we remove the 
channel-group comand from the one remaining ASR interface, all of a 
sudden the link springs to life. Pings between the ASR Gi0/0/0 interface 
and the Po3 VSS interface are successful. EIGRP relationship comes up 
immediately and is stable, and routes are exchanged as you'd expect.


How does this work? With the ASR thinking it's a non-etherchannel 
interface, but the VSS thinking it IS an EtherChannel (with 1 member), 
surely it should just fail?


Am I doing something wrong or could this be a bug in either VSS or the ASR?

It's not earth shattering, we could just configure 2 EIGRP sessions 
between the VSS and the ASR (4 in total with 2 ASRs) but don't think 
this is as clean an implementation as MEC across fully redundant chassis 
and line cards (one of the big selling points of the VSS !!)


Any help would be much appreciated!

Thanks
Alasdair


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Re: [c-nsp] QoS Strategy for Cisco 877

2009-05-01 Thread Gary T. Giesen
I was hoping to use priority queueing, since it does exactly what I
want (service all packets in highest queue, then default queue, then
low queue) but it doesn't seem to work with a DSL/ATM interface...

GG

On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Steve McCrory
stev...@netservicesplc.com wrote:
 Hi Gary,

 Configuring QoS on Cisco 877 routers is actually at the heart of one of
 our products.

 Can I ask what queuing method you are using, are you using CBWFQ or
 Priority queuing?

 Steven

 Steven McCrory

 Senior Network Engineer

 Netservices PLC
 Waters Edge Business Park
 Modwen Road
 Manchester, M5 3EZ

 www.netservicesplc.com

 -Original Message-
 From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
 [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Gary T. Giesen
 Sent: 30 April 2009 21:17
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [c-nsp] QoS Strategy for Cisco 877

 Guys,

 I've been trying a bunch of different methods, but nothing seems to
 achieve what I want. Ideally I'd like to use Priority Queueing (or
 something that operates the same) on the ATM0 interface of a Cisco
 877.

 I have 3 classes of traffic:

 Telnet/SSH/ICMP/Management - High Priority
 General Data - Default Priority
 IP Video Camers - Low Priority

 Normally I would just use a priority-list/priority-group, but I can't
 seem to apply it to either the ATM0 interface or the ATM0.33 interface
 (and I have also tried applying it on the PVC under the subinterface).

 I would like all packets in the high priority queue to be serviced
 first, then all packets in the default priority, and if there's any
 bandwidth leftover, service the low priority queue. I would prefer not
 to have to define minimum and maximum bandwidth for each queue (I
 don't want any hard queues/bandwidth limits, I would like all
 available bandwidth to be used by any particular queue as long as the
 queues above it are serviced).

 Can anyone recommend a QoS strategy/configuration for this that will
 work on the ATM0/DSL interface (no PPPoE) on a Cisco 877?

 Thanks,

 GG
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[c-nsp] IPv6 ND over PPP

2009-05-01 Thread Marlon Duksa
Hi - 1) does anyone know if Cisco (IOS) is using IPv6CP for neighbor
discovery on a PPP link or they run neighbor discovery on top of PPP link?
2) same question for  HDLC over PPP - how do they do neighbor discovery
there - ND, or statically provisioned neighbors or Inverse ND?

Thanks,
Marlon
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[c-nsp] Channelized DS3 over SM fiber handoff

2009-05-01 Thread Michael Ulitskiy
Hello,

We will need to terminate channelized DS3 circuit in 7200VXR router. 
The problem is that DS3 is given to us by telco (Verizon) as a single-mode 
fiber.
I have no experience with this kind of setup and actually limited experience 
with DS3 circuits.
Has anybody done this before? How it's usually done?
Is there a DS3 PA with fiber interface for 7200 routers (I don't see any) or I 
should use
a media converter with PA-MC-T3? If so, can you recommend one?
It seems that many media converters use proprietary DS3 encoding scheme and 
must be used in pairs
(or at least I've been told so), but telco is unable to give us any 
recommendation on how
we should terminate it on our end. 
If anyone could share the experience on terminating DS3 over fiber handoff from 
Verizon, East Coast,
I'd greatly appreciate it. Any pointers to appropriate 
documentation/tutorials/howtos/etc are also very welcome.
Thanks a lot,

Michael
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Re: [c-nsp] Channelized DS3 over SM fiber handoff

2009-05-01 Thread Jay Hennigan

Michael Ulitskiy wrote:

Hello,

We will need to terminate channelized DS3 circuit in 7200VXR router. 
The problem is that DS3 is given to us by telco (Verizon) as a single-mode fiber.

I have no experience with this kind of setup and actually limited experience 
with DS3 circuits.
Has anybody done this before? How it's usually done?
Is there a DS3 PA with fiber interface for 7200 routers (I don't see any) or I 
should use
a media converter with PA-MC-T3? If so, can you recommend one?
It seems that many media converters use proprietary DS3 encoding scheme and 
must be used in pairs
(or at least I've been told so), but telco is unable to give us any 
recommendation on how
we should terminate it on our end. 
If anyone could share the experience on terminating DS3 over fiber handoff from Verizon, East Coast,

I'd greatly appreciate it. Any pointers to appropriate 
documentation/tutorials/howtos/etc are also very welcome.
Thanks a lot,


I've never seen a telco hand off a DS-3 as fiber.  Always a pair of 
75-ohm coaxial cables on BNC connectors.  Typically it comes in to the 
customer premise as a SONET fiber connection and a carrier-owned MUX and 
NID is installed with the customer handoff as co-ax.


You would need to know the exact make and model of the hardware at the 
other end of the link to procure a compatible media converter if they 
are really terminating a DS-3 this way.  And good luck when you have a 
case of trouble, the blame game on this one will not be fun.


Are you sure they're finished with the provisioning and that there isn't 
another group scheduled to install equipment?


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Re: [c-nsp] VSS1440 to ASR1002 - MEC issues

2009-05-01 Thread Daniel de la Rosa (ddelaros)
That's correct, ASR1000 GEC only support static VLAN LB at the moment
and not LACP. So this can only work if you are ok on just using GEC with
VLANs on both sides as Tassos mentioned. Since you are deploying GEC for
redundancy, this VLAN static LB should be able to give you what you
need. Also you need to have the VSS on GEC mode on.

HTH 


-
Daniel de la Rosa
CCIE # 4622
Technical Marketing Engineer
ERBU, Cisco Systems



 
 
 ASR1000 doesn't -yet- support the well-known EtherChannel/LACP. If i
 remember right, RLS5
 will have it.
 
 There is a feature called VLAN Mapping to Gigabit EtherChannel (GEC)
 Member Links, but i
 don't think it would help you much, since you have L3 portchannels on
 both sides.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/lanswitch/configuration/guide/lsw_c
 fg_gecvlan.html
 
 --
 Tassos
 
 Alasdair McWilliam wrote on 01/05/2009 18:29:
  Hello,
 
  I'm currently deploying two Cisco 6509-E chassis with VS-Sup720-10GE
 (in
  a VSS 1440 cluster/configuration) with dual ASR 1002 routers to
 provide
  aggregation of multiple upstream links (running multiple BGP and
 EIGRP
  sessions).
 
  I wanted to utilize MEC between each ASR and each 6509 chassis to
 build
  in as much resilience as possible. However this configuration seems
 to
  be playing up and so I thought I'd ask the experts!
 
  Physical Topology:
 
  ASR Gi0/0/0 into 6509 Chassis 1 Module 1 Port 1
  ASR Gi0/1/0 into 6509 Chassis 2 Module 1 Port 1
 
  The ASR is running IOS-XE 2.3.0 (IOS 12.2(33)XNC) AISK9 with dual
IOS
  processes.
  The VSS chassis are running IOS 12.2(33)SXI1 ISK9 with a 4x 10GE VSL
 (2
  supervisor 10GE interfaces, 2 10GE interfaces on a 6708-10GE line
 card).
  I'm just using CAT6 between the ASR and the 6748-GE-TX line cards in
 the
  VSS boxes.
 
  ASR configuration:
 
  interface Port-Channel1
  ip address x.x.x.5 255.255.255.252
  ip hello-interval eigrp 100 2
  ip hold-time eigrp 100 6
  ip authentication mode eigrp 100 md5
  ip authentication key-chian eigrp 100 vcoresw1-chain
  ip summary-address eigrp 100 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255
  no ip redirects
  no ip unreachables
  no ip proxy-arp
  no shut
  !
 
  interface Gi0/0/0
  channel-group 1
  no shut
 
  interface Gi0/1/0
  channel-group 1
  no shut
 
  Cisco VSS configuration:
 
  int Gi1/1/1
  no switchport
  channel-group 3 mode on
 
  int Gi2/1/1
  no switchport
  channel-group 3 mode on
 
  int Po3
  desc *** MEC to br1-po1 ***
  no ip redirects
  no ip unreachables
  no ip proxy-arp
  ip vrf forwarding edge-vrf
  ip address x.x.x.6 255.255.255.252
  ip hello-interval eigrp 100 2
  ip hold-time eigrp 100 6
  ip authentication mode eigrp 100 md5
  ip authentication key-chain eigrp 100 br1-chain
  no shut
  !
 
 
 
  The problem I am experiencing seems to be one way traffic between
the
  VSS cluster and the Border Router. Pinging across this /30 subnet
 does
  not work in either direction. EIGRP relationships build when the Po
  interfaces first come online and then immediately time out moments
  later. The VSS cluster then does not see any further EIGRP traffic
 from
  the ASR. However the ASR seems to think it's successfully building
an
  adjacency to the VSS. However this times out due to 'retry limit
  exceeded' every minute or so, but seems to think it re-establishes
 again.
 
  This problem persists if we drop the PortChannel to just one Gigabit
  Ethernet interface. The second interface can be shut down or
actually
  removed from the Po config (eg. no channel-group 1).
 
  The really interesting thing is, with one link, if we remove the
  channel-group comand from the one remaining ASR interface, all of a
  sudden the link springs to life. Pings between the ASR Gi0/0/0
 interface
  and the Po3 VSS interface are successful. EIGRP relationship comes
up
  immediately and is stable, and routes are exchanged as you'd expect.
 
  How does this work? With the ASR thinking it's a non-etherchannel
  interface, but the VSS thinking it IS an EtherChannel (with 1
 member),
  surely it should just fail?
 
  Am I doing something wrong or could this be a bug in either VSS or
 the ASR?
 
  It's not earth shattering, we could just configure 2 EIGRP sessions
  between the VSS and the ASR (4 in total with 2 ASRs) but don't think
  this is as clean an implementation as MEC across fully redundant
 chassis
  and line cards (one of the big selling points of the VSS !!)
 
  Any help would be much appreciated!
 
  Thanks
  Alasdair
 
 
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Re: [c-nsp] Channelized DS3 over SM fiber handoff

2009-05-01 Thread Seth Mattinen
Michael Ulitskiy wrote:
 Hello,
 
 We will need to terminate channelized DS3 circuit in 7200VXR router. 
 The problem is that DS3 is given to us by telco (Verizon) as a single-mode 
 fiber.
 I have no experience with this kind of setup and actually limited experience 
 with DS3 circuits.
 Has anybody done this before? How it's usually done?
 Is there a DS3 PA with fiber interface for 7200 routers (I don't see any) or 
 I should use
 a media converter with PA-MC-T3? If so, can you recommend one?
 It seems that many media converters use proprietary DS3 encoding scheme and 
 must be used in pairs
 (or at least I've been told so), but telco is unable to give us any 
 recommendation on how
 we should terminate it on our end. 
 If anyone could share the experience on terminating DS3 over fiber handoff 
 from Verizon, East Coast,
 I'd greatly appreciate it. Any pointers to appropriate 
 documentation/tutorials/howtos/etc are also very welcome.
 Thanks a lot,
 

I've never seen anyone do that before with a DS3. Maybe they gave you
Ethernet?

~Seth
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Re: [c-nsp] Channelized DS3 over SM fiber handoff

2009-05-01 Thread Troy Beisigl
Maybe they delivered a channelized OC3? I know that is an actual  
product, but have never seen a DS3 as fiber handoff.


Troy Beisigl

Sent from my iPhone

On May 1, 2009, at 6:05 PM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote:


Michael Ulitskiy wrote:

Hello,

We will need to terminate channelized DS3 circuit in 7200VXR router.
The problem is that DS3 is given to us by telco (Verizon) as a  
single-mode fiber.
I have no experience with this kind of setup and actually limited  
experience with DS3 circuits.

Has anybody done this before? How it's usually done?
Is there a DS3 PA with fiber interface for 7200 routers (I don't  
see any) or I should use

a media converter with PA-MC-T3? If so, can you recommend one?
It seems that many media converters use proprietary DS3 encoding  
scheme and must be used in pairs
(or at least I've been told so), but telco is unable to give us any  
recommendation on how

we should terminate it on our end.
If anyone could share the experience on terminating DS3 over fiber  
handoff from Verizon, East Coast,
I'd greatly appreciate it. Any pointers to appropriate  
documentation/tutorials/howtos/etc are also very welcome.

Thanks a lot,



I've never seen anyone do that before with a DS3. Maybe they gave you
Ethernet?

~Seth
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Re: [c-nsp] Channelized DS3 over SM fiber handoff

2009-05-01 Thread Seth Mattinen
Troy Beisigl wrote:
 Maybe they delivered a channelized OC3? I know that is an actual
 product, but have never seen a DS3 as fiber handoff.
 

Maybe; odd though if one asked for a DS3. If that's the case you can
just get an OC3 port adapter.

~Seth
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Re: [c-nsp] BGP Med and outbound metric

2009-05-01 Thread Pshem Kowalczyk
Hi,


2009/5/1 Matthew Huff mh...@ox.com:
 Since we use BGP as peering to our ISPs, and don't use BGP internally in our 
 core, I haven't used MED or local_pref much. However, we have two routers 
 connected to another ASN (not via the internet) and I'm trying to influence 
 their return path since we are getting asynchronous routing. I'm trying to 
 use MED to advertise a lower preference out our second router but it doesn't 
 seem to be working. Any suggestions?


{cut}

Another option that you can try is as-prepending - instead of setting
higher metric.
Try this:

route-map setMED-LOW permit 10
 match ip address routemap_ecn
 set metric 200
 set as-path prepend 14607

Even if they reset the metric this should work (unless they influence
the decision with weight or local_pref).

kind regards
Pshem
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Re: [c-nsp] Channelized DS3 over SM fiber handoff

2009-05-01 Thread Ryan Werber
Allstream at 151 front street in Toronto does this.  They run a single
strand SMF and they terminate it into a form of a media converter, which
passes off 2x BNC as expected for a DS3.  They do this for both clear
channel and channelized DS3.

Interestingly enough, our channelized OC12s come in on a pair of SMF
from them.

I would imagine you would need a similar media converter - I'm sorry I
don't have the model number of the equipment Allstream uses.  All I know
it is some sort of WDM equipment (obviously) on the fiber side. 

Ryan Werber
Sr. Network Engineer
Epik Networks
AS21513


-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 6:42 PM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Channelized DS3 over SM fiber handoff

Troy Beisigl wrote:
 Maybe they delivered a channelized OC3? I know that is an actual
 product, but have never seen a DS3 as fiber handoff.
 

Maybe; odd though if one asked for a DS3. If that's the case you can
just get an OC3 port adapter.

~Seth
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Re: [c-nsp] Channelized DS3 over SM fiber handoff

2009-05-01 Thread troy
Very interesting. Here is just one of many different media converters
found while doing a google search.

http://www.transition.com/TransitionNetworks/Products2/Product.aspx?ID=15429CategoryName=SCSCF30xx-10x

Troy Beisigl


 Allstream at 151 front street in Toronto does this.  They run a single
 strand SMF and they terminate it into a form of a media converter, which
 passes off 2x BNC as expected for a DS3.  They do this for both clear
 channel and channelized DS3.

 Interestingly enough, our channelized OC12s come in on a pair of SMF
 from them.

 I would imagine you would need a similar media converter - I'm sorry I
 don't have the model number of the equipment Allstream uses.  All I know
 it is some sort of WDM equipment (obviously) on the fiber side.

 Ryan Werber
 Sr. Network Engineer
 Epik Networks
 AS21513


 -Original Message-
 From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
 [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
 Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 6:42 PM
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Channelized DS3 over SM fiber handoff

 Troy Beisigl wrote:
 Maybe they delivered a channelized OC3? I know that is an actual
 product, but have never seen a DS3 as fiber handoff.


 Maybe; odd though if one asked for a DS3. If that's the case you can
 just get an OC3 port adapter.

 ~Seth
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