Re: [c-nsp] Data VLAN/Voice VLAN

2009-08-30 Thread Clue Store
What platform/IOS are you running??

I think the older 3500xl PoE switch had to be in trunk mode to accomplish
the dot1(p)(q) header info so trust the EF marking of the packet
would work due to CDP improvements and working without actually having a it
in trunk mode. Think newer platforms and IOS, CDP does the magic of the
headers of the aux vlan (which is the voice vlan) if im not mitaken. And u
can just use voice vlan and access mode and it works.

So no need to trunk on newer gear. But Pete's correct, u have the switchport
mode in access. And u might have to trunk depending on ur setup. Also
having it tagging native is useless in access mode.

HTH,
Clue

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Bill Blackford bblackf...@nwresd.k12.or.us
 wrote:

 If you are using 3560's, this has been my experience as well. If you are
 unfortunate enough to be using 3550XL's, then the whole game is different.

 The 3550XL way:

 interface FastEthernet0/5
  switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q
  switchport trunk native vlan 68
  switchport mode trunk
  switchport voice vlan 66
  switchport priority extend cos 0
  spanning-tree portfast

 The data vlan has to be indicated as native.

 Again, this has been my experience.

 -b



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 cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Peter Rathlev
 Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:44 PM
 To: Yuri Bank
 Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Data VLAN/Voice VLAN

 On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 15:20 -0700, Yuri Bank wrote:
  interface FastEthernet0/4
   description phone
   switchport access vlan 77
   switchport trunk native vlan 55
   switchport mode access
   switchport voice vlan 66
 
  In this configuration, data is placed on vlan 55? From what I've read
  on other forums and such is that the data would be on the configured
  access vlan ( 77 ). Unfortunately I do not have an iphone to test
  this. Could anyone give me some clarity?

 Untagged traffic on the port would be VLAN 77, since this is what you
 configured at access VLAN and since the port is in forced access mode.

 A compatible device (i.e. one the presents itself as a phone via CDP)
 would activate the voice VLAN and thus allow tagged incoming traffic on
 VLAN 66. This requires the switch (and port) to have CDP enabled by the
 way.

 The trunk configuration is ignored when you issue switchport mode
 access.

 If you only need a stand-alone phone you can just use a simple access
 port in the voice VLAN.

 Regards,
 Peter


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Re: [c-nsp] Migrate 6500 to 7600

2009-08-30 Thread Clue Store
Hi Pete,

Im about to undego this same process with 7203bXL, and i'd like to know what
roles ur 7606's play??  (BGP, PE, IPv6, 6pe, etc)  What has been your most
stable non-bgp bugged image that you use???

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Mateusz Blaszczyk blah...@gmail.comwrote:

  With SXF this has never been a
  problem, only with SRB/SXH and newer.

 Yes, I forgot about the SXF can be run on both platforms. Then one thing
 less to worry about.


 Any surprises with MAC changes, ifindex changes?
 I recall a discussion here that chassis switchover resulted in the main
 (for a lack of better
 word) MAC being changed.

 Thanks!

 Best Regards,

 -mat

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Re: [c-nsp] OSPF fast convergence on Sup32/SXI

2009-08-30 Thread Clue Store
Ive had a few customers on a small scale routers perfectly, I believe
the dead time in Cisco default is 4 times the hello. I have all of them set
of 3 sec Hello packets and a 30 second heal time and zero route
instabitliey. But I have zero experience with the sup32/6509 kit.

This has been done on 2600/2800 3700/3800 routers with no issues.
Clue

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Gert Doering g...@greenie.muc.de wrote:

 Hi,

 for a new project, I have been tasked to build a network that does
 IGP fast convergence as fast as possible!!! (with 5 exclamation marks).

 Due to other reasons (... of course this needs to be FAST and cost
 NOTHING...), the routers will be 6504+Sup32s, planned IOS is SXH3a or
 SXI2.

 BFD won't be possible, as routing will be done on SVIs (thanks, Cisco)

 [*maybe* I can do this on port-channel dot1q subinterfaces, but I'm not
 yet sure how this will work out - can MUX-UNI be used to mix routed
 subinterfaces and switched VLANs?  I've only used it to mix MPLS subfs
 and switched VLANs].

 Now I'm looking for experience and recommendations about tweaking OSPF
 - how far have you (successfully) reduced OSPF hello timers?   Any other
 success or horror stories about IGP fast convergence on Sup32?


 ... and yes, I'm aware that I won't be able to do sub-500ms on this
 platform.  I'm not aiming for this :-) - something like  3s would
 be perfect,  10s would make $them grumble, but eventually accept it...

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Re: [c-nsp] Migrate 6500 to 7600

2009-08-30 Thread Mateusz Blaszczyk
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 07:50:22PM +0100, Mateusz Blaszczyk wrote:
  With SXF this has never been a
  problem, only with SRB/SXH and newer.
 
 Yes, I forgot about the SXF can be run on both platforms. Then one thing
 less to worry about.
 
not so happy anymore.
done some reading and it seems 7606S was supported first by SR train:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_2sr/release/notes/122SRrn.html#wp4344593
I wonder if that will boot under SX (12.2(18)SXE6a).

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Re: [c-nsp] IPV6 in general was Re: Large networks

2009-08-30 Thread Grzegorz Janoszka

Mohacsi Janos wrote:
I disagree. Not worst than DHCP. By the way how do you distribute 
parameters for local links?


DHCP fake offers are better filterable I think. With v6 we now use 
mostly static IP addressing. Still working for DHCP over v6.


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Re: [c-nsp] Migrate 6500 to 7600

2009-08-30 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 05:25:25PM +0100, Mateusz Blaszczyk wrote:
 done some reading and it seems 7606S was supported first by SR train:

7606S definitely does NOT boot under SXH.  Been there, done that, 
returned the chassis.

(We told them we want to run modular.  They said oh, why bother getting
a 7606, get the newer all-shiny-and-dancy 7606S...)

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[c-nsp] Wierd memory issue with SXI/SXI1 on 6500 w/ SUP720-3BXL

2009-08-30 Thread Chris Phillips
Every six weeks or so I am running out of memory on a 6509 w/ dual 
SUP720-3BXL with mostly 6700-series line cards.


I have 21 other nodes with this exact same configuration, some even 
running SXI or SXI1 that do not have this issue, which first led me to 
believe that the issue might be hardware related.


During our last maintenance window to alleviate the memory issue, I 
forced the standby SUP to become the active SUP.  The memory issue 
persisted, leading me back to thinking it is a software issue.


I did not have this issue with SXH* on this same device, but SXH is *SO* 
buggy, rolling back is not an option.  This leads me to believe that it 
is most likely a software issue.


The router is heavily used with 250+ BGP sessions, OSPF, MPLS, v4/v6, 
etc, but I don't think it should be consuming and not releasing 4 mbytes 
of memory each day.


Has anyone else seen this?  Anyone know a workaround?

I'm upgrading to SXI2 tomight in hopes that it resolves my issue.

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Re: [c-nsp] Migrate 6500 to 7600

2009-08-30 Thread Rob Shakir
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 05:25:25PM +0100, Mateusz Blaszczyk wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 07:50:22PM +0100, Mateusz Blaszczyk wrote:
   With SXF this has never been a
   problem, only with SRB/SXH and newer.
  
  Yes, I forgot about the SXF can be run on both platforms. Then one thing
  less to worry about.
  
 not so happy anymore.
 done some reading and it seems 7606S was supported first by SR train:
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_2sr/release/notes/122SRrn.html#wp4344593
 I wonder if that will boot under SX (12.2(18)SXE6a).

Hi Mat,

When we switched over the 6509s to a 7609-S chassis, it booted and ran fine
under SXF15a.

After verifying the functionality, we moved to SRC2.

Hopefully this is of some help,
Rob

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Re: [c-nsp] Wierd memory issue with SXI/SXI1 on 6500 w/ SUP720-3BXL

2009-08-30 Thread Azher Mughal
SXI2 will give you another malloc bug :) CSCtb27643cat6000 Medium 
buffers leak on SP leading to crash


Here is a workaround suggested by Cisco:

One workaround is to disable the diag test 'TestEARLInternalTables' on 
all the DFC/PFC modules. However, this workaround will only stop further 
memory leak. To recover from the already leaked memory on the SP, the 
sup has to be reload (in case of single-sup) or a 'switchover' done (in 
case of dual-supervisor).


Command line:
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

r31(config)#no diagnostic monitor module all test TestEARLInternalTables

-Azher


Chris Phillips wrote:
Every six weeks or so I am running out of memory on a 6509 w/ dual 
SUP720-3BXL with mostly 6700-series line cards.


I have 21 other nodes with this exact same configuration, some even 
running SXI or SXI1 that do not have this issue, which first led me to 
believe that the issue might be hardware related.


During our last maintenance window to alleviate the memory issue, I 
forced the standby SUP to become the active SUP.  The memory issue 
persisted, leading me back to thinking it is a software issue.


I did not have this issue with SXH* on this same device, but SXH is 
*SO* buggy, rolling back is not an option.  This leads me to believe 
that it is most likely a software issue.


The router is heavily used with 250+ BGP sessions, OSPF, MPLS, v4/v6, 
etc, but I don't think it should be consuming and not releasing 4 
mbytes of memory each day.


Has anyone else seen this?  Anyone know a workaround?

I'm upgrading to SXI2 tomight in hopes that it resolves my issue.


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Re: [c-nsp] Wierd memory issue with SXI/SXI1 on 6500 w/ SUP720-3BXL

2009-08-30 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

it's a bit hard to comment on this, as it is lacking the most important
bit - *which process* is losing the memory?  (show proc mem sort, 
run every few days, compare the output).

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 10:11:10AM -0700, Chris Phillips wrote:
 I did not have this issue with SXH* on this same device, but SXH is *SO* 
 buggy, rolling back is not an option.  This leads me to believe that it 
 is most likely a software issue.
 
 The router is heavily used with 250+ BGP sessions, OSPF, MPLS, v4/v6, 
 etc, but I don't think it should be consuming and not releasing 4 mbytes 
 of memory each day.
 
 Has anyone else seen this?  Anyone know a workaround?

My guess would be you have SXI and a high number of inactive/shutdown
BGP sessions.  SXI is leaking memory in this configuration.  It seems
to queue BGP updates for the inactive neighbors, and never release them
(obviously, since they are never sent...).

Fixed in SXI2.

There are voices that SXI2 also has mem leak issues, but we haven't seen
those yet.

(NB: SXH3a is quite good for us as well - no mem leaks, no crashes, no
ghost bugs.)

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Re: [c-nsp] Monitor 3560

2009-08-30 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 03:30:03PM +0300, almog ohayon wrote:
 Hello Everyone,i wondered if anyone knows how to monitor 3560 interface vlan
 traffic ?

take the 3560 and beat your cisco sales rep with it.

This still won't give you per-vlan counters, but vent off some of the 
frustration that these (and the 3750) cause.

And no, there is no way - the hardware is lacking the capability to count
vlan traffic.

(Which has been answered on this list about *one week* ago...)

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Re: [c-nsp] Monitor 3560

2009-08-30 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 01:08:32PM -0400, Randy McAnally wrote:
 It does however, count traffic routed between VLANs.

No.

Well - *if* it does, you have a BIG problem, because that would mean
CPU switched traffic.

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[c-nsp] Help with Cisco ASA w/CSC-SSM and WCCP Configuration..

2009-08-30 Thread Howard Leadmon
  I figured I would post here and see if anyone has set this up before, and
come across a decent solution for the issue I am currently trying to work
through.

 

 First off I have a Cisco ASA-5510 with the CSC-SSM-10 module installed in
it.  The ASA is running the most current 8.2.1 code, and the CSC is running
the most current 6.3.1172.0 code from Cisco's site.   I do have all this up
and running at this time, and it works.   I also have a Cisco Content
Engine-590 that I have had online here for a while (with only a T1, saving
re-grabbing large image content on sites is a plus).  I also have the most
current ACNS software 5.5.13 loaded on the 590 as well, and it's configured
to work with the ASA using WCCPv2.

 

 OK, so now the issue.  It is all working, but apparently WCCP and the ASA
requests are handled before the CSC module, so any and all web requests
being processed by the CSC-SSM-10 module all look as though they are coming
from a single IP address (the IP of the CE590).  In some ways, I guess one
could say that was great as you will sure never have to worry about running
past the 50 user limit of the default CSC license, as it only sees stuff
from a single IP.  Of course like all things there is a catch, and for me
this is the issue I have. I want to use the Content Filtering function of
the CSC-SSM, and limit people based on either the internal IP address, or I
see I can also use the NT Active Directory info.  In fact I even tried to
use the AD plugin, but as it sees the IP of the CE590, again it won't find
any logged in users.  So due to this, I can't enforce content restrictions
on certain users, as everything appears as a single User/IP.

 

 So the million dollar question is, has anyone setup and used the ASA w/CSC
module along with a Content Engine (web cache) in transparent mode via WCCP,
and been able to make the CSC module see the individual IP's/Users inside??
I tried tweaking a couple items in the CE590 but that only resulted in
things breaking, so put it all back.   If anyone has any ideas on how to
accomplish this, or any material on doing this, it would be most
appreciated..

 

 

 

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Re: [c-nsp] OSPF fast convergence on Sup32/SXI

2009-08-30 Thread Ben Steele
You can try OSPF fast hello's but the general consensus is to not use them
purely because there is no pseudo preemption for it(unlike bfd) so if you
have a busy router, or even a router with bursty busyness aka snmp polling
you can draw false positives into your fast hello's.

Having said that something like 2 sec hello with 6 sec dead timer has worked
well for me before, you could try cutting that down to 1 and 3 respectively,
it's probably just a matter of test and tweak and see what works for you.

If you can work a solution that incorporates BFD you will be better off in
the long run(as your router certainly won't get less busy as time goes on)
if the ultimate goal is fast convergence with 5 exclamation marks :)

Ben

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 Hi,

 for a new project, I have been tasked to build a network that does
 IGP fast convergence as fast as possible!!! (with 5 exclamation marks).

 Due to other reasons (... of course this needs to be FAST and cost
 NOTHING...), the routers will be 6504+Sup32s, planned IOS is SXH3a or
 SXI2.

 BFD won't be possible, as routing will be done on SVIs (thanks, Cisco)

 [*maybe* I can do this on port-channel dot1q subinterfaces, but I'm not
 yet sure how this will work out - can MUX-UNI be used to mix routed
 subinterfaces and switched VLANs?  I've only used it to mix MPLS subfs
 and switched VLANs].

 Now I'm looking for experience and recommendations about tweaking OSPF
 - how far have you (successfully) reduced OSPF hello timers?   Any other
 success or horror stories about IGP fast convergence on Sup32?


 ... and yes, I'm aware that I won't be able to do sub-500ms on this
 platform.  I'm not aiming for this :-) - something like  3s would
 be perfect,  10s would make $them grumble, but eventually accept it...

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Re: [c-nsp] Wierd memory issue with SXI/SXI1 on 6500 w/ SUP720-3BXL [SOLVED]

2009-08-30 Thread Chris Phillips

A show memory allocating-process totals is very telling.

llocator PC Summary for: Processor
Displayed first 2048 Allocator PCs only

PC  Total   Count  Name
0x4035A6C8  2951861724420  BGP battr chun
0x40809510   45688268 695  CEF: fib

BGP is definitely the culprit.  It has consumed almost 250 million more 
bytes than the next closest process.  Yikes!


Looking at a healthy router, this process is just under the 100 
million byte mark.


I received an off-list reply that contained the workaround.  I had four 
BGP sessions in an admin down state and one that was trying to connect.


I removed all five of these sessions from my configuration and the 
difference was dramatic.


Here's the path/bestpath before the removal of the configuration:

1640389/55395 BGP path/bestpath attribute entries using 262462240 bytes 
of memory


Here it is after:

463745/55388 BGP path/bestpath attribute entries using 74199200 bytes of 
memory


That's a staggering difference.

However, while the memory has been released back into the BGP memory 
pool, it does not show up in the free memory pool.  We're still at 
90% usage, so I will have to proceed with our scheduled maintenance tonight.


I had planned on moving to SXI2 tonight, but it sounds like that has 
some memory issues as well.  Think I might just stay put for now, since 
I now know the workaround for this issue.


Thank you everyone for your replies and assistance.  It was of great help!

Cheers!

e ninja wrote:
Grab multiple captures of sh proc mem to identify the process holding 
and not releasing (i.e. leaking) memory. When memory is heavily 
depleted, grab a *show memory allocating-process totals* and feel free 
to unicast.


Any MALLOC failures?

-Eninja


On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Chris Phillips 
cphill...@wbsconnect.com mailto:cphill...@wbsconnect.com wrote:


Every six weeks or so I am running out of memory on a 6509 w/ dual
SUP720-3BXL with mostly 6700-series line cards.

I have 21 other nodes with this exact same configuration, some even
running SXI or SXI1 that do not have this issue, which first led me
to believe that the issue might be hardware related.

During our last maintenance window to alleviate the memory issue, I
forced the standby SUP to become the active SUP.  The memory issue
persisted, leading me back to thinking it is a software issue.

I did not have this issue with SXH* on this same device, but SXH is
*SO* buggy, rolling back is not an option.  This leads me to believe
that it is most likely a software issue.

The router is heavily used with 250+ BGP sessions, OSPF, MPLS,
v4/v6, etc, but I don't think it should be consuming and not
releasing 4 mbytes of memory each day.

Has anyone else seen this?  Anyone know a workaround?

I'm upgrading to SXI2 tomight in hopes that it resolves my issue.

-- 
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