Re: [c-nsp] IP SLA Scalability

2010-10-21 Thread Ben Steele
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.sewrote:

 On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, Ben Steele wrote:

  Has anyone ran a rather large amount of SLA probes from a router who can
 comment on the cpu performance characteristics on how it scaled for your
 particular platform?


 You should really contact your account team to get a comment from them.
 I've spoken to the product manager for IP SLA and I was quite surprised by
 some comments I got regarding the functionality and the thinking/handling of
 it within Cisco.

  Yes good advice and I plan to talk to an SE about it soon, but nothing
quite like hearing people's real world experiences with it, like yourself :)



  Specifically looking to see if its feasible to expect a router to be able
 to
 go upwards of 500+ simultaneous monitors(looking at a total of about
 10-15k
 pps of udp-jitter probes in total).


 I'd say Cisco doesn't have a product that has been designed to scale this
 far and is supposed to work for prolonged sustained testing like I guess you
 want to do. They consider 300 second of 50pps testing extremely long and
 if single high jitter packet in that long test occurs, the opinion seems
 to be that fixes for that is on a best-effort work priority. It's not
 something they really test on all platforms and all code.


Not entirely sure what you mean here, the udp-jitter probe has a
computational delay timestamp put into it by the responder to account for
any cpu delays in the processing, however, how well that works in a
generally non pre-emptive environment like IOS with a high number of
monitors is yet to be seen(well, by me anyway.)




  Before anyone says that I should look at another vendor/solution, this is
 already being done in the background. I am purely after what a Cisco router
 can offer in this regards, i've never come across more than about 20 sla
 probes on a router before so am interested to hear the results.


 If you're doing this in an MPLS VPN scenario, you might want to make sure
 you test your code so it has timestamping for arrival time for packets even
 if they are labeled. I ran into this on a 7301 5 years ago, took 14 months
 for that TAC case to complete with the answer that timestamping wasn't done
 in labeled packets and as a result, any cpu spike would cause jitter in the
 measurements. Converting the router to IP only (putting it behind a MPLS PE
 router) solved the problem.


Not MPLS VPN, but end-to-end LSP tunnel so still label switched either way,
I would have expect the ip sla process to only be exposed to the IP layer
before/after necessary imposition/disposition had occurred.

Appreciate your feedback.

Ben



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[c-nsp] any program will send SMS message as Network device down and resume

2010-10-21 Thread Edward Iong

Dear All,
 
Anyone know what program will send the sms to people as the network device is 
down and resume as well.
 
Thanks and Regards,
 
Edward
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Re: [c-nsp] any program will send SMS message as Network device down?and resume

2010-10-21 Thread Alexander Clouter
Edward Iong edward_io...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Anyone know what program will send the sms to people as the network 
 device is down and resume as well.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sms+monitor+oss

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Re: [c-nsp] IP SLA Scalability

2010-10-21 Thread David Freedman

 
 If you're doing this in an MPLS VPN scenario, you might want to make
 sure you test your code so it has timestamping for arrival time for
 packets even if they are labeled. I ran into this on a 7301 5 years ago,
 took 14 months for that TAC case to complete with the answer that
 timestamping wasn't done in labeled packets and as a result, any cpu
 spike would cause jitter in the measurements. Converting the router to
 IP only (putting it behind a MPLS PE router) solved the problem.
 

We dont do labelled for (this amongst other) reason either, we have
probes (dedicated or virtualised) on each PE, in a full mesh.

Dave.


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Re: [c-nsp] q-in-q mtu

2010-10-21 Thread Antonio Querubin

On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, Daniel Hooper wrote:

I was under the impression that interfaces handling Q-in-Q needed 
atleast an MTU of 1504 bytes.


The 7206 doesn't accept anything higher than 1500 on that interface.

I did some testing with the carrier today and we found that 1490 was the 
highest MTU that would reliably allow web browsing.  One would think that 
1496 or 1492 would do the trick but 1492 didn't make a difference.  There 
was some useability at 1491.


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Re: [c-nsp] q-in-q mtu

2010-10-21 Thread Christophe Lucas

Le 21/10/2010 11:21, Antonio Querubin a écrit :

On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, Daniel Hooper wrote:


I was under the impression that interfaces handling Q-in-Q needed
atleast an MTU of 1504 bytes.


The 7206 doesn't accept anything higher than 1500 on that interface.

I did some testing with the carrier today and we found that 1490 was the
highest MTU that would reliably allow web browsing.  One would think that
1496 or 1492 would do the trick but 1492 didn't make a difference.  There
was some useability at 1491.

Antonio Querubin
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Hi,

On this kind of router :

core4.rou01#sh ver | inc IOS
IOS (tm) 7200 Software (C7200-P-M), Version 12.3(19), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2)
This Version of Cisco IOS Software is not supported on NPE300.
Please select a version of Cisco IOS software compatible with
core4.rou01#sh run int gi 0/0
Building configuration...

Current configuration : 167 bytes
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/0
 mtu 1530
 ip address x.x.x.x 255.255.255.252
 duplex full
 speed 1000
 media-type gbic
 negotiation auto
 tag-switching ip
end
core4.rou01# ping y.y.y.y si 1520

Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 1520-byte ICMP Echos to 217.169.255.1, timeout is 2 seconds:
!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 1/2/4 ms
core4#

You could be able to set mtu higher than 1500, so that you can handle 
q-in-q frames.


off topic
I am interested in what kind of router are terminating your Q-in-Q vlan ?
/off

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Re: [c-nsp] q-in-q mtu

2010-10-21 Thread Antonio Querubin

On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, Christophe Lucas wrote:

You could be able to set mtu higher than 1500, so that you can handle q-in-q 
frames.


1500 is the highest MTU the router will accept for configuration on its 
FastEthernet interfaces.  It doesn't have any GigabitEthernet interfaces.



off topic
I am interested in what kind of router are terminating your Q-in-Q vlan ?
/off


It's a 7206VXR running IOS 12.4.

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Re: [c-nsp] q-in-q mtu

2010-10-21 Thread Christophe Lucas

Le 20/10/2010 19:42, Antonio Querubin a écrit :

A new carrier will be handing us customer connections as q-in-q vlans.
However, during our initial network validation we noticed what seem like
possible MTU issues.  Pings work fine but HTTP connections to various
sites is flakey - more so for IPv4 than IPv6 oddly enough.

The customer circuit is terminated on a q-in-q sub-interface of a
FastEthernet interface on our Cisco 7206VXR.  We interconnect with the
carrier's Ciena switches through our HP Procurve 4000M switches:

7206VXR --- HP 4000M --- HP 4000M --- Ciena switches ... --- customer

Our HP switches use an MTU of 1514.  The default MTU on our 7206
sub-interfaces is 1500.  The MTU of the physical FastEthernet is 1500.


Hi,

Oh sorry, don't have seen __FastEthernet__.
Sorry for the noise :(

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Re: [c-nsp] q-in-q mtu

2010-10-21 Thread David Freedman
Problem is the DEC chip found on PA-FE-TX , it has a hard limit of 1530
PDU (i.e on the wire, with headers), IOS prevented you changing the mtu
on the interface (which is usually the SDU, i.e without the ethernet
frame overhead) because it was so close to the edge, but with advent of
tag-switching mtu you were allowed to bleed into this space,
in later releases they abandoned tag-switching mtu in favour of just
letting the user configure the mtu directly up to the 1530 limit (but
woe betide you if you configured it 1530 as this is the assumed SDU and
hence had a PDU 1530!)

Dave.

Antonio Querubin wrote:
 On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, Christophe Lucas wrote:
 
 You could be able to set mtu higher than 1500, so that you can handle
 q-in-q frames.
 
 1500 is the highest MTU the router will accept for configuration on its
 FastEthernet interfaces.  It doesn't have any GigabitEthernet interfaces.
 
 off topic
 I am interested in what kind of router are terminating your Q-in-Q vlan ?
 /off
 
 It's a 7206VXR running IOS 12.4.
 
 Antonio Querubin
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Re: [c-nsp] Redistributing ipv6 static default route into eigrpfailure

2010-10-21 Thread Andriy Bilous
It does work this way - in 12.4(24)T1 anyway. I'm curious what
hardware/software op's using and why is seed metric required there.

R1#sh run int fa0/0
Building configuration...

Current configuration : 129 bytes
!
interface FastEthernet0/0
 no ip address
 duplex auto
 speed auto
 ipv6 address 2620:0:2810:104::252/64
 ipv6 eigrp 14607
end

R1#sh run | i ipv6 route
ipv6 route ::/0 FastEthernet0/0 2620:0:2810:104::1

R1#sh run | s i r e
ipv6 router eigrp 14607
 no shutdown
 redistribute static

R1#sh ipv6 eigrp topology
IPv6-EIGRP Topology Table for AS(14607)/ID(10.0.0.3)

Codes: P - Passive, A - Active, U - Update, Q - Query, R - Reply,
   r - reply Status, s - sia Status

P ::/0, 1 successors, FD is 256
via Rstatic (256/0)
P 2620:0:2810:104::/64, 1 successors, FD is 28160
via Connected, FastEthernet0/0

R1#sh ver | i Ver
Cisco IOS Software, 2801 Software (C2801-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), Version
12.4(24)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc3)
ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 12.4(13r)T, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)


On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Gert Doering g...@greenie.muc.de wrote:
 Hi,

 On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 07:36:48AM +0200, Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer) wrote:
  My bad. You are right. It has been too long since I last checked ;-)

 same here, fell into the same trap.. guess with static being the only
 exception (is this documented anywhere?), adding  default-metric
 to eigrp has been in my dna, not questioning the exceptions :)

 Well, I'm not sure whether it's documented anywhere, but this is soo
 useful :-)  - and this is what we really missed when we changed from
 customer-routes-in-EIGRP to customer-routes-in-BGP.

 Our typical usage case is two routers, HSRP, trying to get (mostly)
 symmetric traffic - so we put bandwidth 1g on the master router,
 bandwith 100k on the backup router, and EIGRP will do the right thing.

 With BGP, extra route maps and stuff are needed to designate certain
 statics-to-interfaces as this is backup.

 (I find it surprising that it doesn't work that way for EIGRP-for-IPv6...)

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Re: [c-nsp] BGP Reestablish-order

2010-10-21 Thread Drew Weaver
Hi,

I could be completely wrong (or this could be platform specific) but I believe 
that some of this can be avoided by making sure that the path MTU is the 
highest possible.

From what I understand the longer it takes for all of the information to be 
received by your router the harder the BGP router process has to work, so if 
you can make it so the BGP table downloads faster this might mitigate some of 
the performance problem you are seeing and not be such a big deal.

I know at least that in the case of a PRP-2 (IOS, not XR) it seems to be the 
case.

-Drew


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[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Mario Iseli
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 8:52 PM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] BGP Reestablish-order

Hi there,

I have the problem that the CPU on my router is going mad when my link to an IX 
gets up again after an interface flap, the router reestablishes all sessions in 
the same time and then kinda gets in a loop because he begins to drop BGP 
packets after being so busy processing BGP updates. :-)

Is there a way to define the order how those sessions come up again or that I 
can specify a reestablish timer for each neighbor, so that I can let the 
less important peers to wait for a specific amount of time before trying to 
get the session back?

I'm looking forward to see if anyone of you had the same experiences and how 
you solved this situation.

Thank you for your inputs and best regards, Mario

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Re: [c-nsp] Redistributing ipv6 static default route into eigrpfailure

2010-10-21 Thread Matthew Huff
Cisco 6509/Sup720/MSFC3 running 12.2(33)SXI4

The only route redistribution we do (at least in our internal core network) is 
static - eigrp, so that's why we never have had to modify the default metrics.

Again, the only issue to me is that the syntax allowed me to configure 
redistribute static and silently failed. In the past (with ipv4 eigrp), 
without specifying the metrics on that line or using default-metric command, 
IOS would redistribute the metrics with default settings. Either not allowing 
the command without specifying the full command line or using the default 
values would be fine, but accepting the command and then not working isn't okay.




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 -Original Message-
 From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net 
 [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Andriy
 Bilous
 Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 7:05 AM
 To: Gert Doering
 Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Redistributing ipv6 static default route into 
 eigrpfailure
 
 It does work this way - in 12.4(24)T1 anyway. I'm curious what
 hardware/software op's using and why is seed metric required there.
 
 R1#sh run int fa0/0
 Building configuration...
 
 Current configuration : 129 bytes
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/0
  no ip address
  duplex auto
  speed auto
  ipv6 address 2620:0:2810:104::252/64
  ipv6 eigrp 14607
 end
 
 R1#sh run | i ipv6 route
 ipv6 route ::/0 FastEthernet0/0 2620:0:2810:104::1
 
 R1#sh run | s i r e
 ipv6 router eigrp 14607
  no shutdown
  redistribute static
 
 R1#sh ipv6 eigrp topology
 IPv6-EIGRP Topology Table for AS(14607)/ID(10.0.0.3)
 
 Codes: P - Passive, A - Active, U - Update, Q - Query, R - Reply,
r - reply Status, s - sia Status
 
 P ::/0, 1 successors, FD is 256
 via Rstatic (256/0)
 P 2620:0:2810:104::/64, 1 successors, FD is 28160
 via Connected, FastEthernet0/0
 
 R1#sh ver | i Ver
 Cisco IOS Software, 2801 Software (C2801-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), Version
 12.4(24)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc3)
 ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 12.4(13r)T, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
 
 
 On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Gert Doering g...@greenie.muc.de wrote:
  Hi,
 
  On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 07:36:48AM +0200, Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer) wrote:
   My bad. You are right. It has been too long since I last checked ;-)
 
  same here, fell into the same trap.. guess with static being the only
  exception (is this documented anywhere?), adding  default-metric
  to eigrp has been in my dna, not questioning the exceptions :)
 
  Well, I'm not sure whether it's documented anywhere, but this is soo
  useful :-)  - and this is what we really missed when we changed from
  customer-routes-in-EIGRP to customer-routes-in-BGP.
 
  Our typical usage case is two routers, HSRP, trying to get (mostly)
  symmetric traffic - so we put bandwidth 1g on the master router,
  bandwith 100k on the backup router, and EIGRP will do the right thing.
 
  With BGP, extra route maps and stuff are needed to designate certain
  statics-to-interfaces as this is backup.
 
  (I find it surprising that it doesn't work that way for EIGRP-for-IPv6...)
 
  gert
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Re: [c-nsp] BGP Reestablish-order

2010-10-21 Thread Heath Jones
Hi Mario

 I have the problem that the CPU on my router is going mad when my link to an
 IX gets up again after an interface flap, the router reestablishes all
 sessions in the same time and then kinda gets in a loop because he begins to
 drop BGP packets after being so busy processing BGP updates. :-)

Are you sure it is not related to your IGP? You would need a pretty
large number of peers or a very slow cpu to have a problem like this.
How many peers do you have, and how many prefixes average?

Are BGP packets being dropped (tcp unacknowledged)? If this is the
case, the remote end will retransmit but there will be a time delay.
Are the remote ends closing the connection after drops and starting
again?


 Is there a way to define the order how those sessions come up again or that I
 can specify a reestablish timer for each neighbor, so that I can let the
 less important peers to wait for a specific amount of time before trying to
 get the session back?

For this to work, the implementation would also have to block incoming
connections for the duration (the neighbour's timer could expire
before yours, then they would start the connection).

You may want to look at tcp window sizes.

If the problem is that your cpu is so chewed it cannot sent tcp
acknowledgements then something is seriously wrong. (It would also
mean that the neighbours would 'back off' for a while before
retransmitting)
If the problem is that your BGP process is dealing with the updates,
it should be sending tcp window size 0 to the neighbors (telling them
to wait a while).

As a first step, try to completely understand what the CPU is actually
doing. You might find there is something easy you could do to minimise
the effect..


Heath
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[c-nsp] q-in-q mtu

2010-10-21 Thread Chris Wopat
 On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, Daniel Hooper wrote:

 The 7206 doesn't accept anything higher than 1500 on that interface.

Some 12.2S trains allow you to up the MTU on 7200 to 1530. I'm
currently running SB, I'm unsure if SR* can do it or not.

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Re: [c-nsp] any program will send SMS message as Network device down and resume

2010-10-21 Thread Chris Gotstein

http://oss.oetiker.ch/smokeping/

On 10/21/2010 1:39 AM, Edward Iong wrote:


Dear All,

Anyone know what program will send the sms to people as the network device is 
down and resume as well.

Thanks and Regards,

Edward  
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[c-nsp] Cisco OneX module question.

2010-10-21 Thread Igor Kremez
Hello,

Did someone tested Cisco OneX module with SFP+ LR or SFP+ ER modules ?

We have here Cisco Catalyst 4900M, and i'd like
to know is it going to work or no: 4900M - OneX - SFP-10G-ER ?

I read cisco site about OneX compatible list and there is no LR or ER modules 
there. 


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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco OneX module question.

2010-10-21 Thread Jiri Prochazka
Hi Igor,

we use SFP+ LR transceivers with OneX (CVR-X2-SFP10G) reductions in our
4900M without problems.

There are some caveats regarding to using OneX on 4900M (like you have to
wait aprox. two minutes before inserting/removing the reduction, otherwise
error with duplicate S/N appears in log.. but it's working.

Now in one of our 4900M we have got about 10 OneX reductions with LR
transceivers.


If you have any other questiona regarding to this setup, don't hesitate to
ask me directly.


Kid regards,


Jiri



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[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Igor Kremez
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 4:19 PM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] Cisco OneX module question.

Hello,

Did someone tested Cisco OneX module with SFP+ LR or SFP+ ER modules ?

We have here Cisco Catalyst 4900M, and i'd like to know is it going to work
or no: 4900M - OneX - SFP-10G-ER ?

I read cisco site about OneX compatible list and there is no LR or ER
modules there. 


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Re: [c-nsp] BGP Reestablish-order

2010-10-21 Thread Artyom Viklenko

21.10.2010 3:52, Mario Iseli пишет:

Hi there,

I have the problem that the CPU on my router is going mad when my link to an
IX gets up again after an interface flap, the router reestablishes all
sessions in the same time and then kinda gets in a loop because he begins to
drop BGP packets after being so busy processing BGP updates. :-)


If your interface flaps sometimes for a short period, you can protect your 
router
with no bgp fast-external-fallover command in router bgp section. Also there 
is
per-interface command [no] ip bgp fast-external-fallover.
This is not what you ask exactly, but may be helpful in some conditions.

At least BGP speaker will not drop all directly connected peers in case of 
interface flap.
Hope this help a bit.



Is there a way to define the order how those sessions come up again or that I
can specify a reestablish timer for each neighbor, so that I can let the
less important peers to wait for a specific amount of time before trying to
get the session back?

I'm looking forward to see if anyone of you had the same experiences and how
you solved this situation.

Thank you for your inputs and best regards,
Mario

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[c-nsp] L2 Long Haul/Transport switch recommendation

2010-10-21 Thread Drew Weaver
Hi everyone,

I am looking for a recommendation for a switch to use for L2 transport between 
two locations.

Essentially I will have 4-5 1G ports and they will be carried over a 10G 
connection using VLANs.

My main problem is that in the future I will need more 10G ports and most of 
the 'fixed configuration' switches only come with 2x 10G ports.

So far I am looking at the 4900M and the WS-C3560E-12D-S.

Does have any recommendations for something I am overlooking?

thanks,
-Drew


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Re: [c-nsp] q-in-q mtu

2010-10-21 Thread Antonio Querubin

On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, David Freedman wrote:


Problem is the DEC chip found on PA-FE-TX , it has a hard limit of 1530


It's actually the built-in FastEthernet port instead of a port adapter:

#show controllers fastEthernet 0/0
Interface FastEthernet0/0
Hardware is DEC21140A


PDU (i.e on the wire, with headers), IOS prevented you changing the mtu
on the interface (which is usually the SDU, i.e without the ethernet
frame overhead) because it was so close to the edge, but with advent of
tag-switching mtu you were allowed to bleed into this space,
in later releases they abandoned tag-switching mtu in favour of just
letting the user configure the mtu directly up to the 1530 limit (but
woe betide you if you configured it 1530 as this is the assumed SDU and
hence had a PDU 1530!)


This IOS is either too old or too crippled.  It doesn't have 
'tag-switching mtu' and the max configurable mtu is 1500.  So I'm still 
wondering why (according to the carrier doing the testing):


 - Setting our sub-interface IPv4 mtu to 1490 works but 1492 does not

 - IPv6 isn't affected

Antonio Querubin
808-545-5282 x3003
e-mail/xmpp:  t...@lava.net
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[c-nsp] How does multicast multipath next-hop-based hashing actually work?

2010-10-21 Thread John Neiberger
We've been having a bear of a time trying to get equitable
distributions of traffic over sets of links where the traffic is
nearly 100% multicast. We seem to end up with a couple of links that
have a lot of S,Gs attached to them and other links that only have a
few. Since the traffic rate per stream is about the same, this leads
to a lot higher utilization on certain links, and in some cases (like
at 5:00 AM this morning) one link getting overdriven to the point of
dropping production video traffic.

We've read the documentation on CCO about multicast multipath, but it
doesn't go into enough detail about how the hash works under the hood.
We need to understand this in order to engineer a workable (and
understandable) solution for this issue.

Do any of you know the details?

Thanks,
John
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Re: [c-nsp] q-in-q mtu

2010-10-21 Thread Daniel Lacey
 Isn't 1490 the magic MTU for PPPoE?

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On 10/21/10 11:15 AM, Antonio Querubin wrote:
 On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, David Freedman wrote:

 Problem is the DEC chip found on PA-FE-TX , it has a hard limit of 1530

 It's actually the built-in FastEthernet port instead of a port adapter:

 #show controllers fastEthernet 0/0
 Interface FastEthernet0/0
 Hardware is DEC21140A

 PDU (i.e on the wire, with headers), IOS prevented you changing the mtu
 on the interface (which is usually the SDU, i.e without the ethernet
 frame overhead) because it was so close to the edge, but with advent of
 tag-switching mtu you were allowed to bleed into this space,
 in later releases they abandoned tag-switching mtu in favour of just
 letting the user configure the mtu directly up to the 1530 limit (but
 woe betide you if you configured it 1530 as this is the assumed SDU and
 hence had a PDU 1530!)

 This IOS is either too old or too crippled.  It doesn't have
 'tag-switching mtu' and the max configurable mtu is 1500.  So I'm
 still wondering why (according to the carrier doing the testing):

  - Setting our sub-interface IPv4 mtu to 1490 works but 1492 does not

  - IPv6 isn't affected

 Antonio Querubin
 808-545-5282 x3003
 e-mail/xmpp:  t...@lava.net
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Re: [c-nsp] q-in-q mtu

2010-10-21 Thread Antonio Querubin

On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, Daniel Lacey wrote:


Isn't 1490 the magic MTU for PPPoE?


Perhaps.  But this is supposed to be a layer 2 connection via ethernet 
from us to the customer.  PPPoE isn't in use.  Just some switches and 
q-in-q in between.


Antonio Querubin
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Re: [c-nsp] q-in-q mtu

2010-10-21 Thread Tony
--- On Fri, 22/10/10, Chris Wopat m...@falz.net wrote:

  On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, Daniel
 Hooper wrote:
 
  The 7206 doesn't accept anything higher than 1500 on
 that interface.
 
 Some 12.2S trains allow you to up the MTU on 7200 to 1530.
 I'm
 currently running SB, I'm unsure if SR* can do it or not.
 
 http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/2007-March/039033.html


We're running 12.2(33)SRD1 on 7204 with NPE-300.

The Fa0/0 port on the I/O controller (C7200-I/O-2FE/E) supports larger MTU 
(1530 is the max):

interface FastEthernet0/0
 mtu 1530
 no ip address

We're then running an IP MTU of 1524 on the subinterface that runs MPLS:

interface FastEthernet0/0.3
 encapsulation dot1Q 3
 ip mtu 1524
 mpls ip


The same setup works on the PA-FE-TX cards in these boxes and also worked on 
SRC.


regards,
Tony Miles.






  

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[c-nsp] router 2800 or 3600 or 7xxx

2010-10-21 Thread Deric Kwok
Hi

Are all series router 2800 or 3600 or 7xxx supporting vpdn group?

I need it to logon to the ISP

Any comment about it any DSL modem and router connection issue?

Thank you for your help
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Re: [c-nsp] router 2800 or 3600 or 7xxx

2010-10-21 Thread Justin M. Streiner

On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, Deric Kwok wrote:


Are all series router 2800 or 3600 or 7xxx supporting vpdn group?
I need it to logon to the ISP


It depends on what IOS version/train/feature set you load onto the router. 
The boxes above are just pieces of hardware.  The only difference the 
hardware really makes is in scalability (number of concurrent sessions, 
throughput, whether function XYZ can be offloaded to an ASIC, etc).


Much of the information you're looking for is available on Cisco's 
website.  If you have a CCO account, you can go through the software 
advisor to find IOS releases that have the features you need.



Any comment about it any DSL modem and router connection issue?


That's a little too vague of a question to answer specifically.  There are 
lots of variables there - DSL type (ADSL, SDSL, ADSL2+, VDSL, HDSL...), 
delivery method (bridged, PPPoE, PPPoA, etc), any other requirements your 
ISP/telco add on, etc.


Many people have routers connected to a wide variety of DSL setups.  Your 
best bet would be to describe your setup - maybe someone on the list has

something similar.

jms
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[c-nsp] Source for 10gb SR OM3 cable in orange?

2010-10-21 Thread David Hubbard
Any chance anyone on the list knows of a source for
10 gig multimode OM3 cable in orange instead of the
standardized aqua color?  Ideally in SC to LC and
30m lengths.  Need to connect some 4900M X2
10gb SR modules to UCS fabric extenders with
SFP-10G-SR modules, and it needs to be orange cable
for stupid reasons.  :-)

Thanks,

David

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