Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 7401 - Buy/Get a specific IOS ?

2011-01-30 Thread Pavel Skovajsa
Seems like the images you are looking for are not the on Download Area since
the box is EOL and nobody actually cares. They have been EOL'd long time so
you cannot officially buy a service contract for them. Your only official
path is trying to ask your cisco account rep.

This document details the 12.2S release, there are more rebuilts going from
12.2(14) which was the first release up to 12.2(30).
http://www.ciscosystemsverified.biz/en/US/docs/ios/12_2s/release/notes/122Srn.pdf

-pavel


On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 6:28 AM, Stephane MAGAND
stmagconsult...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi

 i am search a specific version of IOS for Cisco 7401:
 12.2(14)Sxx

 (xx= 1 to 16)


 sample file name:
 12.2(14)S16 ENTERPRISE  c7400-js-mz.122-14.S16.bin
 12.2(14)S16 SERVICE PROVIDERc7400-p-mz.122-14.S16.bin


 I don't have cisco contract on this equipment, anyone know the procedure
 for buy/get this ios ?

 thanks
 Stephane
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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 7401 - Buy/Get a specific IOS ?

2011-01-30 Thread Stephane MAGAND
Hi

thanks for your answer,

The 12.2S have EoMPLS, it's only into this version for cisco 7401

Bye
Stephane



2011/1/30 Pavel Skovajsa pavel.skova...@gmail.com:
 Seems like the images you are looking for are not the on Download Area since
 the box is EOL and nobody actually cares. They have been EOL'd long time so
 you cannot officially buy a service contract for them. Your only official
 path is trying to ask your cisco account rep.
 This document details the 12.2S release, there are more rebuilts going from
 12.2(14) which was the first release up to 12.2(30).
 http://www.ciscosystemsverified.biz/en/US/docs/ios/12_2s/release/notes/122Srn.pdf
 -pavel

 On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 6:28 AM, Stephane MAGAND stmagconsult...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi

 i am search a specific version of IOS for Cisco 7401:
 12.2(14)Sxx

 (xx= 1 to 16)


 sample file name:
 12.2(14)S16     ENTERPRISE      c7400-js-mz.122-14.S16.bin
 12.2(14)S16     SERVICE PROVIDER        c7400-p-mz.122-14.S16.bin


 I don't have cisco contract on this equipment, anyone know the procedure
 for buy/get this ios ?

 thanks
 Stephane
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[c-nsp] Design question for 7206VXR Port Adapters

2011-01-30 Thread Nick Voth
Guys,

I'm trying to figure out how to provide native ATM encapsulation via
individual T1's that aggregate on my end on a channelized DS3 on a 7206VXR.
The far end locations are multiple Adtran DSLAMs that only supports native
ATM encapsulation on their T1/IMA interfaces.

I have done this before on the PA-A3-T3 or PA-A3-OC3SMI. In that case, I
just bring the individual T1 circuits in from the Telco via another VCI on
that larger interface.

For this current application, I will be getting a channelized DS3, (not
ATM), from my telco, (XO Communications), and then the individual DS1's will
all have different end point locations. Those DS1s will need to pass native
ATM end to end instead of PPP.

There's also no way to bring the circuits to me as individual T1's for use
on an 8 port ATM card. They have to come in on a DS3 because of our telco
facilities.

I currently use the PA-MC-T3 for all of our serial T1's, but that card
doesn't support native ATM encapsulation apparently.

Is there a port adapter that can do that or do I need to be looking at a
different ATM switch on my end?

Thanks for any help.

-Nick Voth



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Re: [c-nsp] Design question for 7206VXR Port Adapters

2011-01-30 Thread Michael Sokolov
Nick Voth nv...@estreet.com wrote:

 I'm trying to figure out how to provide native ATM encapsulation via
 individual T1's that aggregate on my end on a channelized DS3 on a 7206VXR.
 The far end locations are multiple Adtran DSLAMs that only supports native
 ATM encapsulation on their T1/IMA interfaces.

OK, I remember the earlier thread about this.

 I have done this before on the PA-A3-T3 or PA-A3-OC3SMI. In that case, I
 just bring the individual T1 circuits in from the Telco via another VCI on
 that larger interface.

That was fundamentally different in that you only had one ATM interface
globally (i.e., only one ATM engine needed to exist in the hardware),
and each individual T1 was a PVC on that ATM interface, which is trivial
because all classic ATM gear supports lots and lots of PVCs on a single
ATM interface, that's the whole point of ATM.

What you are trying to do now is fundamentally different: each of your
T1s, be it a physical DS1 4-wire interface or a multiplex in a DS3, is
now its own independent bona fide ATM interface, hence whatever hardware
platform you end up using has to have as many ATM interface engines in
it as the number of your T1s.

I have no idea if Cisco ever made anything like this - can someone else
on this list (someone from Cisco maybe) clue us in on this?

 For this current application, I will be getting a channelized DS3, (not
 ATM), from my telco, (XO Communications), and then the individual DS1's will
 all have different end point locations. Those DS1s will need to pass native
 ATM end to end instead of PPP.

Yup, makes total sense.

 There's also no way to bring the circuits to me as individual T1's for use
 on an 8 port ATM card. They have to come in on a DS3 because of our telco
 facilities.

One possible solution would be for you to acquire your own piece of
telco hardware that breaks a DS3 into DS1s, a la M13, and install it in
your own rack under your control right next to your router, then deal
with the individual T1s.

You've mentioned some 8 port ATM card.  What is it?  Does Cisco have a
module that provides 8 metallic DS1 interfaces and treats each as DS1/ATM?

 I currently use the PA-MC-T3 for all of our serial T1's, but that card
 doesn't support native ATM encapsulation apparently.

Yes, that makes total sense: HDLC and ATM call for very different
hardware, and making a single piece of hw that supports both is a royal
pita.  (Speaking as someone who actually designs and builds his own hw
of this sort; see www.harhan.com - sorry about the shameless plug.)  If
one is building a port adapter for a single DS1, one could perhaps put
up with the pain and build one that can do both HDLC and ATM, but I
highly doubt that anyone would do that for a high-density module that
terminates a whole DS3-load of DS1s: it would be built for either HDLC
or ATM, not both.

 Is there a port adapter that can do that or do I need to be looking at a
 different ATM switch on my end?

I have no idea if Cisco or anyone else has ever built a single piece of
hw that does everything you need.  If not, you may have to settle for a
multi-piece solution consisting of a discrete M13 to break the DS3 up
into DS1s, then other gear to terminate DS1/ATM pipes individually.

HTH,
MS
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Re: [c-nsp] Design question for 7206VXR Port Adapters

2011-01-30 Thread Nick Voth
Thanks Michael. If I could break the DS3 down with another piece of
equipment I could use the PA-A3-8T1IMA to deal with each T1 individually.
The trick is we only touch fiber and all of the telco capacity comes to us
as OC3 or OC12 level and then the telco breaks it out to DS3s for us.

I'll have to ponder this a bit more. Thanks for the input.

-Nick Voth


 From: Michael Sokolov msoko...@ivan.harhan.org
 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 18:39:36 GMT
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net, nv...@estreet.com
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Design question for 7206VXR Port Adapters
 
 Nick Voth nv...@estreet.com wrote:
 
 I'm trying to figure out how to provide native ATM encapsulation via
 individual T1's that aggregate on my end on a channelized DS3 on a 7206VXR.
 The far end locations are multiple Adtran DSLAMs that only supports native
 ATM encapsulation on their T1/IMA interfaces.
 
 OK, I remember the earlier thread about this.
 
 I have done this before on the PA-A3-T3 or PA-A3-OC3SMI. In that case, I
 just bring the individual T1 circuits in from the Telco via another VCI on
 that larger interface.
 
 That was fundamentally different in that you only had one ATM interface
 globally (i.e., only one ATM engine needed to exist in the hardware),
 and each individual T1 was a PVC on that ATM interface, which is trivial
 because all classic ATM gear supports lots and lots of PVCs on a single
 ATM interface, that's the whole point of ATM.
 
 What you are trying to do now is fundamentally different: each of your
 T1s, be it a physical DS1 4-wire interface or a multiplex in a DS3, is
 now its own independent bona fide ATM interface, hence whatever hardware
 platform you end up using has to have as many ATM interface engines in
 it as the number of your T1s.
 
 I have no idea if Cisco ever made anything like this - can someone else
 on this list (someone from Cisco maybe) clue us in on this?
 
 For this current application, I will be getting a channelized DS3, (not
 ATM), from my telco, (XO Communications), and then the individual DS1's will
 all have different end point locations. Those DS1s will need to pass native
 ATM end to end instead of PPP.
 
 Yup, makes total sense.
 
 There's also no way to bring the circuits to me as individual T1's for use
 on an 8 port ATM card. They have to come in on a DS3 because of our telco
 facilities.
 
 One possible solution would be for you to acquire your own piece of
 telco hardware that breaks a DS3 into DS1s, a la M13, and install it in
 your own rack under your control right next to your router, then deal
 with the individual T1s.
 
 You've mentioned some 8 port ATM card.  What is it?  Does Cisco have a
 module that provides 8 metallic DS1 interfaces and treats each as DS1/ATM?
 
 I currently use the PA-MC-T3 for all of our serial T1's, but that card
 doesn't support native ATM encapsulation apparently.
 
 Yes, that makes total sense: HDLC and ATM call for very different
 hardware, and making a single piece of hw that supports both is a royal
 pita.  (Speaking as someone who actually designs and builds his own hw
 of this sort; see www.harhan.com - sorry about the shameless plug.)  If
 one is building a port adapter for a single DS1, one could perhaps put
 up with the pain and build one that can do both HDLC and ATM, but I
 highly doubt that anyone would do that for a high-density module that
 terminates a whole DS3-load of DS1s: it would be built for either HDLC
 or ATM, not both.
 
 Is there a port adapter that can do that or do I need to be looking at a
 different ATM switch on my end?
 
 I have no idea if Cisco or anyone else has ever built a single piece of
 hw that does everything you need.  If not, you may have to settle for a
 multi-piece solution consisting of a discrete M13 to break the DS3 up
 into DS1s, then other gear to terminate DS1/ATM pipes individually.
 
 HTH,
 MS



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