Re: [c-nsp] Are Nexus and per-interface or FEX MTU settings possible?

2012-09-21 Thread Conkel, Joshua
Actually, I just installed a 10G LR fiber optic module in each of them in order 
to connect to the 5Ks.

I was sure to add the spanning-tree port type edge trunk command on the Nexus 
so I didn't risk ISSU support.

The way I see it, we should be able to keep this working by making sure no 
hosts go beyond the MTU limit on the smallest switch, since frames don't 
magically consolidate themselves. :)

The iSCSI jumbos have their own switch linked separately in a stack for the 
jumbo support.

Thanks!
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From:Andrew Jones andrew.jo...@alphawest.com.au
To:Conkel, Joshua conk...@wems-llc.com, cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net 
cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent:9/21/2012 8:39 PM
Subject:RE: Are Nexus and per-interface or FEX MTU settings possible?



Im assuming your 3560 has gigabit ports to connet the 5ks?

Then you can do jumbo frames on those interfaces, as per the following from 
cisco.com 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps700/products_configuration_example09186a008010edab.shtml#c3

You will need to reboot the switch for this to take effect.

Andrew Jones


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From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net 
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Conkel, Joshua
Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2012 12:57 PM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] Are Nexus and per-interface or FEX MTU settings possible?

We just bought a bundle of 2x 5548Ps and 20x 2248s in order to converge our 
data and storage networks in our new datacenter. After carefully reading the 
configuration limitations document and designing around the limitations for our 
migration, we pulled the trigger and bought the material. The document that I 
used as prep work for the actual deployment was Data Center Access Design with 
Cisco Nexus 5000 Series Switches and 2000 Series Fabric Extenders and Virtual 
PortChannels. I planned on being able to hook the Nexus up to our distribution 
switches and standalone iSCSI network for the migration process and to provide 
L3 services (because of the limitations with using the L3 routing modules)

Now on to our issue:
The document states that you can configure per-interface MTU size. Our data 
network distribution switches are 3560s and run the standard MTU size of 1500. 
Our iSCSI network, on the other hand, use jumbo frames with a MTU of 9000. 
After trying the steps outlined in the document, I have only been able to set 
the MTU globally on the Nexus to jumbo or non-jumbo. After contacting TAC, they 
have initially confirmed that the MTU qos policy can only be applied at the 
system level, not per interface.

So, any ideas other than not converging our networks and buying a standalone 
4900 or 3750x series pair for our iSCSI network? Sorry if it's wordy, but this 
is the content I gave to TAC as well.
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Re: [c-nsp] Are Nexus and per-interface or FEX MTU settings possible?

2012-09-21 Thread Conkel, Joshua
Haha. For our datacenter migration, we are traveling over about two miles of 
singlemode fiber with the 10G links. (5 patches total!)

I know it's not best practice, but we are doing this to avoid having to 
readdress servers during the live transition. Once the transition is complete, 
the Nexus will get a pair of distribution switches of it's own and we will move 
the existing server subnet routes. We are so small internally that turning off 
route summarization won't kill us (about 30 routed subnets total).

The main focus is being able to migrate all of our VMs to the new storage and 
hosts with zero downtime. Unfortunately for me, business direction doesn't mesh 
with best practices if it's not the easiest/cheapest/quickest option. :)
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From:Andrew Jones andrew.jo...@alphawest.com.au
To:Conkel, Joshua conk...@wems-llc.com
Cc:cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent:9/21/2012 8:53 PM
Subject:RE: Are Nexus and per-interface or FEX MTU settings possible?



Also, why LR optics? Unless you need to distance, SR optics are 1/4 the price. 
Or if you are patching into the same rack, twinax cables even cheaper.

Ive generally placed 5k in a central location near core / aggregation switches, 
then distributed the 2k over the data hall with multimode fibre. Allowing you 
to use cheap twinax for uplink and cheap fet-10g over multimode for FEX.

Cheers,

Alphawest


-Original Message-
From: Conkel, Joshua [mailto:conk...@wems-llc.com]
Sent: Saturday, 22 September 2012 10:47 AM
To: Andrew Jones
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: Are Nexus and per-interface or FEX MTU settings possible?

Actually, I just installed a 10G LR fiber optic module in each of them in order 
to connect to the 5Ks.

I was sure to add the spanning-tree port type edge trunk command on the Nexus 
so I didn't risk ISSU support.

The way I see it, we should be able to keep this working by making sure no 
hosts go beyond the MTU limit on the smallest switch, since frames don't 
magically consolidate themselves. :)

The iSCSI jumbos have their own switch linked separately in a stack for the 
jumbo support.

Thanks!
- Original Message -
From:Andrew Jones andrew.jo...@alphawest.com.au To:Conkel, Joshua 
conk...@wems-llc.com, cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent:9/21/2012 8:39 PM
Subject:RE: Are Nexus and per-interface or FEX MTU settings possible?



Im assuming your 3560 has gigabit ports to connet the 5ks?

Then you can do jumbo frames on those interfaces, as per the following from 
cisco.com 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps700/products_configuration_example09186a008010edab.shtml#c3

You will need to reboot the switch for this to take effect.

Andrew Jones


-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net 
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Conkel, Joshua
Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2012 12:57 PM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] Are Nexus and per-interface or FEX MTU settings possible?

We just bought a bundle of 2x 5548Ps and 20x 2248s in order to converge our 
data and storage networks in our new datacenter. After carefully reading the 
configuration limitations document and designing around the limitations for our 
migration, we pulled the trigger and bought the material. The document that I 
used as prep work for the actual deployment was Data Center Access Design with 
Cisco Nexus 5000 Series Switches and 2000 Series Fabric Extenders and Virtual 
PortChannels. I planned on being able to hook the Nexus up to our distribution 
switches and standalone iSCSI network for the migration process and to provide 
L3 services (because of the limitations with using the L3 routing modules)

Now on to our issue:
The document states that you can configure per-interface MTU size. Our data 
network distribution switches are 3560s and run the standard MTU size of 1500. 
Our iSCSI network, on the other hand, use jumbo frames with a MTU of 9000. 
After trying the steps outlined in the document, I have only been able to set 
the MTU globally on the Nexus to jumbo or non-jumbo. After contacting TAC, they 
have initially confirmed that the MTU qos policy can only be applied at the 
system level, not per interface.

So, any ideas other than not converging our networks and buying a standalone 
4900 or 3750x series pair for our iSCSI network? Sorry if it's wordy, but this 
is the content I gave to TAC as well.
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[c-nsp] Are Nexus and per-interface or FEX MTU settings possible?

2012-09-19 Thread Conkel, Joshua
We just bought a bundle of 2x 5548Ps and 20x 2248s in order to converge our 
data and storage networks in our new datacenter. After carefully reading the 
configuration limitations document and designing around the limitations for our 
migration, we pulled the trigger and bought the material. The document that I 
used as prep work for the actual deployment was Data Center Access Design with 
Cisco Nexus 5000 Series Switches and 2000 Series Fabric Extenders and Virtual 
PortChannels. I planned on being able to hook the Nexus up to our distribution 
switches and standalone iSCSI network for the migration process and to provide 
L3 services (because of the limitations with using the L3 routing modules)
 
Now on to our issue:
The document states that you can configure per-interface MTU size. Our data 
network distribution switches are 3560s and run the standard MTU size of 1500. 
Our iSCSI network, on the other hand, use jumbo frames with a MTU of 9000. 
After trying the steps outlined in the document, I have only been able to set 
the MTU globally on the Nexus to jumbo or non-jumbo. After contacting TAC, they 
have initially confirmed that the MTU qos policy can only be applied at the 
system level, not per interface.
 
So, any ideas other than not converging our networks and buying a standalone 
4900 or 3750x series pair for our iSCSI network? Sorry if it's wordy, but this 
is the content I gave to TAC as well.
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