[c-nsp] How to measure Layer2 VLAN utilization in IOS

2008-02-15 Thread James Humphris
All,

 

I have a question about monitoring of traffic volumes in a Cisco based
metro Ethernet environment.

 

I have a mixture of local switching and EoMPLS VLAN services configured
on the same pair of customer access ports. As you would expect, the
EoMPLS PW's are switched across the wide area and the local switching is
simply between VLAN's configured on both ports in the pair.

 

I can easily see the EoMPLS statistics in terms of packets sent and
received by issuing the show mpls l2transport vc x detail command,
however I simply cannot see how to obtain the same level of detail with
respect to the local switched services. 

 

For example, the EoMPLS statistics are as follows:

 

nsn1#sho mpls l2transport vc 101 detail | inc totals

packet totals: receive 589562735, send 589488418

byte totals:   receive 75464030080, send 2440073472

 

However, for a local switched service, the best I can obtain is:

 

nsn1#sho vlan counters

* Multicast counters include broadcast packets

 

Vlan Id: 100

L2 Unicast Packets : 83244

L2 Unicast Octets  : 10322256

L3 Input Unicast Packets   : 0

L3 Input Unicast Octets: 0

L3 Output Unicast Packets  : 0

L3 Output Unicast Octets   : 0

L3 Output Multicast Packets: 0

L3 Output Multicast Octets : 0

L3 Input Multicast Packets : 0

L3 Input Multicast Octets  : 0

L2 Multicast Packets   : 0

L2 Multicast Octets: 0

 

In which case, I see the general VLAN utilisation in terms of packets
and octets, but cannot determine the direction, source, destination,
ingress, egress port etc...I have tried querying the SMON mib for the
device using SNMP but this demonstrates the same information. 

 

I will look into what I can glean using netflow, but this seems like
overkill when all I really want are some simple L2 switching statistics
via CLI/SNMP. The node in question is a Cisco ME6524; however I think
that this is a general problem in IOS.

 

Does anyone have any ideas/recommendations?

 

Many thanks

 

James.

 

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Re: [c-nsp] Netflow performance

2008-02-14 Thread James Humphris
Manuel,

It depends upon the exact hardware configuration you have (SUP/PFC/DFC etc..) 
but on more recent components such as the SUP720, mls netflow functions are 
supported by a dedicated ASIC in hardware. 

This means that enabling mls netflow has no impact on the forwarding 
performance of the device. The ASIC simply listens to packets that are routed 
by the PFC, every time the device considers that a flow has expired, it passes 
the flow information to the Netflow Data Export (NDE) function and clears the 
cache entry, ready for re-use.

It's worth bearing in mind though that the NDE function is completed by the 
MSFC in the slow path and hence can tend to drive up the CPU on the device.

We have completed some testing in our labs here on a 7600 with SUP720. We used 
our test kit to generate 60K concurrent flows with randomly inserted TCP SYN 
and FIN flags set (loosely emulating pseudo-random TCP sessions) and observed 
no performance difference with and without netflow enabled.

Interestingly, this test generated an average NDE traffic volume (using NDE 
version 5) of about 1Mbit/sec.

One thing to bear in mind is the level of NDE aggregation and the impact that 
this has on your management network and MSFC CPU utilisation.

Hope this helps

James.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Manuel García 
Montero
Sent: 14 February 2008 14:03
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] Netflow performance

Hi,

Any advice in how netflow can affect the performance in a 6509? currently
the 6509 provides wccp (8 squids cache farm), with 40 MB of ram used
(366.9MBytes free), cpu stable at 1-2%, and supports ~500Mbps of
throughput ...

I was planning the following typical config (i can attach the rest of the
config if needed)

mls netflow
mls aging normal 60
mls aging long 64
mls flow ip interface-full
mls nde sender version 5
mls nde interface

ip flow-export source IP_Router
ip flow-export version 5 peer-as
ip flow-export destination Collector_IP Collector_Port
ip flow-aggregation cache source-prefix
  mask source 255.255.255.0


with C Class  aggregation in order to reduce flows size ¿is this premise
true?

Thanks.
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Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7000

2008-01-29 Thread James Humphris
Lincon,

Just on the netflow point, whilst it's all very well being able to
generate a ton of netflow data export records, but has the Cisco Netflow
Collector been sufficiently scaled to deal with the sort of volumes of
traffic generated by these next generation platforms?

What type of hardware platform would I need to use as a collector if I
enabled netflow (or even sampled netflow) on a number of these devices
in my data centre!?!

James.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lincoln Dale
(ltd)
Sent: 29 January 2008 12:30
To: Ray Burkholder; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7000

 Does it do netflow output?

yes, NetFlow export v5 and v9 (flexible netflow) export are supported.

h/w table of 512K netflow entries shared between ingress  egress on
each forwarding engine (per I/O module).

 Or sampled netflow?

yes, (true) sampled netflow is supported in h/w too.

 I suppose one would need a
 small network just to handle the netflow output of a fully traffic'd
 switch.

quite possibly!

in the initial software release the export is handled by the Supervisor
control-plane. in a maintenance release soon after, we're adding
distributed netflow export such that its exported from the control-plane
local on the I/O module.
even with the centralized model, its forseeable that there could be
substancial export rate!


cheers,

lincoln.
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[c-nsp] Cisco ME-6524 platform architecture

2008-01-23 Thread James Humphris
Dear all,

 

I stumbled across this excellent forum yesterday whilst trying to gain
some information on the platform architecture of the Cisco ME-6524. I
have been extensively testing this device for a couple of months now,
using a mixture of local switching, multiplex-uni and EoMPLS with
MPLS-TE  FRR. So far, it has performed remarkably well, especially
considering its price point as an entry level device to the Cisco 6500
family.

 

I do however have a question regarding the platform architecture of the
box. As I'm sure you all know, the architecture of the modular 6500
series is very well documented by Cisco, including details of the
modules (PFC, MSFC etc..),types of ASIC (Pinnacle, Medusa, Earl, Tycho
and Superman etc..) and how they interoperate at a high level. 

 

The part I'm struggling with is how this relates to the fixed
configuration of the ME-6524. I appreciate that its based upon the
SUP-720, and utilises MSFC2A with PFC3C, but I when I issue a show
asic-version slot 1, I don't see any ASIC names that I recognise:

 

nsn1#sho asic-version slot 1

Module in slot 1 has 5 type(s) of ASICs

ASIC Name  Count  Version

 KUMA  1  (2.0)

 HYPERION  1  (6.0)

 R2D2  1  (2.0)

  DHANUSH  2  (2.0)

 VISHAKHA  8  (1.0)

 

Can anyone help with some more detailed information relating to the
platform configuration of this device?

 

Many thanks in advance

 

James Humphris

IP Engineering, Nexagent Ltd.

 

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