Re: [c-nsp] [Retrieved] Fiber issue, banging my head.

2007-09-14 Thread Drew Weaver
FYI -

I knew I wasn't crazy.

It ended up being a bad 6509 chassis/backplane =/

-Drew

-Original Message-
From: Ed Ronayne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:14 PM
To: Drew Weaver; 'King, Rick'; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] [Retrieved] Fiber issue, banging my head.

As Rick as saying.

Have you tried putting an attenuator on the fibre.

Maybe you're over cooking the RX side on one of the SFP's

Regards

Ed


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Drew Weaver
Sent: 10 September 2007 18:07
To: 'King, Rick'; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] [Retrieved] Fiber issue, banging my head.

Hi,

We're still having issues with this Fiber Gig-e Connection between our
Catalyst 6509 and our Cisco 12000GSR.

We have tried 6 different SFPs (all multi-mode)
We have tried 2 different cables (multimode)
We have tried two different cards on the Catalyst 6509 (port g5/1  g6/1 on
the Supervisor 720)
We have tried two different gig-e cards on __two different GSR 12000s__
We have tried auto-neg, non auto-neg
We have disabled flow control on the switch side

The problem we're seeing is CRC errors and Input errors on the router side,
the sh interface output from the switch side is completely clean.

We have 3 other setups which are virtually identical (same cards, sfps,
cables, gbics) and they work fine.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, starting to think I'm cursed.

Thanks,
-Drew

-Original Message-
From: King, Rick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 1:28 PM
To: Drew Weaver; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [Retrieved][c-nsp] Fiber issue, banging my head.

As stated before, check SFP type, and make sure your fiber and SFP types
match.  You can see a link come up on a MM SFP with SM fiber but link
will not work properly.

Also verify that you are not overpowering your SFPs (i.e. your optical
power levels are in spec with the cards RX specs)

Hard code speed

Unless you have a transport system between the 2 devcies, SFPs should
match (i.e. SM or MM on both sides)

-Original Message-
From: Drew Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 2:11 PM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [Retrieved][c-nsp] Fiber issue, banging my head.

Hi there.

We are trying to connect a Catalyst 6509 connected via fiber to two GSR
12000 routers.

When we connect the switch to the router(s) via G5/1 and G5/2 (on the
Supervisor 720) we get input errors on the Router (the GSR side), the
line goes up/up but we see:

Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
 1668 input errors, 1668 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored

The throughput between the two pairs is also terribly slow.

We have tried different cards in the GSRs, we have tried different fiber
cables.

The configurations are very simple:

--Pair #1--
Cat side:

interface GigabitEthernet5/1
 description Gig-E to GSR #1
 ip address 192.168.0.34 255.255.255.252
end
GSR side:
interface GigabitEthernet6/0
 description Gig-E to Catalyst 4
 ip address 192.168.0.33 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
 negotiation auto
end

--Pair #2-
Cat side:
interface GigabitEthernet5/2
 description Gig-E to GSR #2
 ip address 192.168.0.106 255.255.255.252
end
GSR side:
interface GigabitEthernet6/0
 description Gig-E to Catalyst 4
 ip address 192.168.0.105 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
 negotiation auto
end

we have 3 other catalysts connected to these two GSRs in a similar
fashion (exactly the same) and the GSRs do not show errors.

Any idea why the errors would only show on the GSR side?

Thanks for any advice.

-Drew
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Re: [c-nsp] [Retrieved] Fiber issue, banging my head.

2007-09-10 Thread Ed Ronayne
As Rick as saying.

Have you tried putting an attenuator on the fibre.

Maybe you're over cooking the RX side on one of the SFP's

Regards

Ed


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Drew Weaver
Sent: 10 September 2007 18:07
To: 'King, Rick'; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] [Retrieved] Fiber issue, banging my head.

Hi,

We're still having issues with this Fiber Gig-e Connection between our
Catalyst 6509 and our Cisco 12000GSR.

We have tried 6 different SFPs (all multi-mode)
We have tried 2 different cables (multimode)
We have tried two different cards on the Catalyst 6509 (port g5/1  g6/1 on
the Supervisor 720)
We have tried two different gig-e cards on __two different GSR 12000s__
We have tried auto-neg, non auto-neg
We have disabled flow control on the switch side

The problem we're seeing is CRC errors and Input errors on the router side,
the sh interface output from the switch side is completely clean.

We have 3 other setups which are virtually identical (same cards, sfps,
cables, gbics) and they work fine.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, starting to think I'm cursed.

Thanks,
-Drew

-Original Message-
From: King, Rick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 1:28 PM
To: Drew Weaver; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [Retrieved][c-nsp] Fiber issue, banging my head.

As stated before, check SFP type, and make sure your fiber and SFP types
match.  You can see a link come up on a MM SFP with SM fiber but link
will not work properly.

Also verify that you are not overpowering your SFPs (i.e. your optical
power levels are in spec with the cards RX specs)

Hard code speed

Unless you have a transport system between the 2 devcies, SFPs should
match (i.e. SM or MM on both sides)

-Original Message-
From: Drew Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 2:11 PM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [Retrieved][c-nsp] Fiber issue, banging my head.

Hi there.

We are trying to connect a Catalyst 6509 connected via fiber to two GSR
12000 routers.

When we connect the switch to the router(s) via G5/1 and G5/2 (on the
Supervisor 720) we get input errors on the Router (the GSR side), the
line goes up/up but we see:

Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
 1668 input errors, 1668 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored

The throughput between the two pairs is also terribly slow.

We have tried different cards in the GSRs, we have tried different fiber
cables.

The configurations are very simple:

--Pair #1--
Cat side:

interface GigabitEthernet5/1
 description Gig-E to GSR #1
 ip address 192.168.0.34 255.255.255.252
end
GSR side:
interface GigabitEthernet6/0
 description Gig-E to Catalyst 4
 ip address 192.168.0.33 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
 negotiation auto
end

--Pair #2-
Cat side:
interface GigabitEthernet5/2
 description Gig-E to GSR #2
 ip address 192.168.0.106 255.255.255.252
end
GSR side:
interface GigabitEthernet6/0
 description Gig-E to Catalyst 4
 ip address 192.168.0.105 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
 negotiation auto
end

we have 3 other catalysts connected to these two GSRs in a similar
fashion (exactly the same) and the GSRs do not show errors.

Any idea why the errors would only show on the GSR side?

Thanks for any advice.

-Drew
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Re: [c-nsp] [Retrieved] Fiber issue, banging my head.

2007-09-10 Thread Drew Weaver
Hi,

We're still having issues with this Fiber Gig-e Connection between our Catalyst 
6509 and our Cisco 12000GSR.

We have tried 6 different SFPs (all multi-mode)
We have tried 2 different cables (multimode)
We have tried two different cards on the Catalyst 6509 (port g5/1  g6/1 on the 
Supervisor 720)
We have tried two different gig-e cards on __two different GSR 12000s__
We have tried auto-neg, non auto-neg
We have disabled flow control on the switch side

The problem we're seeing is CRC errors and Input errors on the router side, the 
sh interface output from the switch side is completely clean.

We have 3 other setups which are virtually identical (same cards, sfps, cables, 
gbics) and they work fine.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, starting to think I'm cursed.

Thanks,
-Drew

-Original Message-
From: King, Rick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 1:28 PM
To: Drew Weaver; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [Retrieved][c-nsp] Fiber issue, banging my head.

As stated before, check SFP type, and make sure your fiber and SFP types
match.  You can see a link come up on a MM SFP with SM fiber but link
will not work properly.

Also verify that you are not overpowering your SFPs (i.e. your optical
power levels are in spec with the cards RX specs)

Hard code speed

Unless you have a transport system between the 2 devcies, SFPs should
match (i.e. SM or MM on both sides)

-Original Message-
From: Drew Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 2:11 PM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [Retrieved][c-nsp] Fiber issue, banging my head.

Hi there.

We are trying to connect a Catalyst 6509 connected via fiber to two GSR
12000 routers.

When we connect the switch to the router(s) via G5/1 and G5/2 (on the
Supervisor 720) we get input errors on the Router (the GSR side), the
line goes up/up but we see:

Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
 1668 input errors, 1668 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored

The throughput between the two pairs is also terribly slow.

We have tried different cards in the GSRs, we have tried different fiber
cables.

The configurations are very simple:

--Pair #1--
Cat side:

interface GigabitEthernet5/1
 description Gig-E to GSR #1
 ip address 192.168.0.34 255.255.255.252
end
GSR side:
interface GigabitEthernet6/0
 description Gig-E to Catalyst 4
 ip address 192.168.0.33 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
 negotiation auto
end

--Pair #2-
Cat side:
interface GigabitEthernet5/2
 description Gig-E to GSR #2
 ip address 192.168.0.106 255.255.255.252
end
GSR side:
interface GigabitEthernet6/0
 description Gig-E to Catalyst 4
 ip address 192.168.0.105 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
 negotiation auto
end

we have 3 other catalysts connected to these two GSRs in a similar
fashion (exactly the same) and the GSRs do not show errors.

Any idea why the errors would only show on the GSR side?

Thanks for any advice.

-Drew
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Re: [c-nsp] [Retrieved] Fiber issue, banging my head.

2007-09-10 Thread Jason LeBlanc
I also remember some bugs back in my GSR days, did you do a bug scrub?  
There were several 'cosmetic bugs' where counters would increment in the 
show commands but there would not actually be any problems.  I already 
deleted your original email, so I can't reference that.  Are there 
actual performance issues or just the counters incrementing?

Drew Weaver wrote:
 Hi,

 We're still having issues with this Fiber Gig-e Connection between our 
 Catalyst 6509 and our Cisco 12000GSR.

 We have tried 6 different SFPs (all multi-mode)
 We have tried 2 different cables (multimode)
 We have tried two different cards on the Catalyst 6509 (port g5/1  g6/1 on 
 the Supervisor 720)
 We have tried two different gig-e cards on __two different GSR 12000s__
 We have tried auto-neg, non auto-neg
 We have disabled flow control on the switch side

 The problem we're seeing is CRC errors and Input errors on the router side, 
 the sh interface output from the switch side is completely clean.

 We have 3 other setups which are virtually identical (same cards, sfps, 
 cables, gbics) and they work fine.

 Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, starting to think I'm cursed.

 Thanks,
 -Drew

 -Original Message-
 From: King, Rick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 1:28 PM
 To: Drew Weaver; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: RE: [Retrieved][c-nsp] Fiber issue, banging my head.

 As stated before, check SFP type, and make sure your fiber and SFP types
 match.  You can see a link come up on a MM SFP with SM fiber but link
 will not work properly.

 Also verify that you are not overpowering your SFPs (i.e. your optical
 power levels are in spec with the cards RX specs)

 Hard code speed

 Unless you have a transport system between the 2 devcies, SFPs should
 match (i.e. SM or MM on both sides)

 -Original Message-
 From: Drew Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 2:11 PM
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [Retrieved][c-nsp] Fiber issue, banging my head.

 Hi there.

 We are trying to connect a Catalyst 6509 connected via fiber to two GSR
 12000 routers.

 When we connect the switch to the router(s) via G5/1 and G5/2 (on the
 Supervisor 720) we get input errors on the Router (the GSR side), the
 line goes up/up but we see:

 Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
  1668 input errors, 1668 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored

 The throughput between the two pairs is also terribly slow.

 We have tried different cards in the GSRs, we have tried different fiber
 cables.

 The configurations are very simple:

 --Pair #1--
 Cat side:

 interface GigabitEthernet5/1
  description Gig-E to GSR #1
  ip address 192.168.0.34 255.255.255.252
 end
 GSR side:
 interface GigabitEthernet6/0
  description Gig-E to Catalyst 4
  ip address 192.168.0.33 255.255.255.252
  no ip directed-broadcast
  negotiation auto
 end

 --Pair #2-
 Cat side:
 interface GigabitEthernet5/2
  description Gig-E to GSR #2
  ip address 192.168.0.106 255.255.255.252
 end
 GSR side:
 interface GigabitEthernet6/0
  description Gig-E to Catalyst 4
  ip address 192.168.0.105 255.255.255.252
  no ip directed-broadcast
  negotiation auto
 end

 we have 3 other catalysts connected to these two GSRs in a similar
 fashion (exactly the same) and the GSRs do not show errors.

 Any idea why the errors would only show on the GSR side?

 Thanks for any advice.

 -Drew
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