Re: [c-nsp] Max performance 6148(A--GE-TX boards

2007-11-13 Thread Matt Buford
 We have been experiencing high input packet drops on interfaces on
 6148a's when we are less than ~200mb/s on the 8 ports combined in one
 case and 100Mb/s in another, not anywhere close to the 8-1 over
 subscription as advertised.  It also got much worse when we went from
 catos to IOS last week, not sure why.  Don't expect too much from a
 6148a module.

You might want to doublecheck your setup then, as I'm not having this 
problem.  I have these in service on my backup network and they have no 
problem hitting 1gb full duplex on each group of 8 ports.  A quick eyeball 
of outbound traffic graphs on ports 1-8 of one of the cards gets me 300 + 0 
+ 0 + 300 + 200 + 150 = 950.  Seems about right. 

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Re: [c-nsp] Max performance 6148(A--GE-TX boards

2007-11-07 Thread Matt Buford
 Can anyone comment on this ? Does this mean we can get a max of 6 Gig
 throughput on a 6148A card and max 2 Gbit on a 6148 ? Or do these
 numbers only apply to etherchannels ? I don't seem to find the right
 performance figures for these cards.

Issue 1:

Each group of 8 ports only supports a gigabit.  If you get 2 ports in the 
same range of 8 both trying to download a gigabit, each one is only going to 
receive 500 mbits.  If you have a mix of high bandwidth servers and low 
bandwidth servers, you should probably spread the high bandwidth servers out 
so there is only one big bandwidth user per group of 8 ports.

Issue 2:

When using etherchannel, a copy of EVERY PACKET for the entire etherchannel 
bundle gets sent to the ASIC.  Since the ASIC only has a 1gbit capacity, 
this means that the entire etherchannel bundle maxes out at 1gb.  But wait! 
It isn't just the etherchannel bundle that maxes out at 1gb.  It is the 
etherchannel bundle plus all other ports on the same ASIC.

The result:

So, lets imagine you make an etherchannel with port 3/1 and 4/1.  Both cards 
are 6148-GE-TX.  Your etherchannel downloads at 1gbit.  Now, someone else 
(not in the Etherchannel) on port 3/2 starts downloading.  The downloader 
AND the etherchannel now have to share the 1gbit restriction, since the ASIC 
handling 3/1-8 has to receive a copy of every etherchannel packet plus every 
packet for port 3/2 - all through a 1gbit pipe.

The moral of the story is don't etherchannel on WS-6148-GE-TX cards (unless 
doing so only for redundancy and not for bandwidth). 

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Re: [c-nsp] Max performance 6148(A--GE-TX boards

2007-11-07 Thread Patrick McEvilly
We have been experiencing high input packet drops on interfaces on
6148a's when we are less than ~200mb/s on the 8 ports combined in one
case and 100Mb/s in another, not anywhere close to the 8-1 over
subscription as advertised.  It also got much worse when we went from
catos to IOS last week, not sure why.  Don't expect too much from a
6148a module.




Matt Buford wrote:
 Can anyone comment on this ? Does this mean we can get a max of 6 Gig
 throughput on a 6148A card and max 2 Gbit on a 6148 ? Or do these
 numbers only apply to etherchannels ? I don't seem to find the right
 performance figures for these cards.
 
 Issue 1:
 
 Each group of 8 ports only supports a gigabit.  If you get 2 ports in the 
 same range of 8 both trying to download a gigabit, each one is only going to 
 receive 500 mbits.  If you have a mix of high bandwidth servers and low 
 bandwidth servers, you should probably spread the high bandwidth servers out 
 so there is only one big bandwidth user per group of 8 ports.
 
 Issue 2:
 
 When using etherchannel, a copy of EVERY PACKET for the entire etherchannel 
 bundle gets sent to the ASIC.  Since the ASIC only has a 1gbit capacity, 
 this means that the entire etherchannel bundle maxes out at 1gb.  But wait! 
 It isn't just the etherchannel bundle that maxes out at 1gb.  It is the 
 etherchannel bundle plus all other ports on the same ASIC.
 
 The result:
 
 So, lets imagine you make an etherchannel with port 3/1 and 4/1.  Both cards 
 are 6148-GE-TX.  Your etherchannel downloads at 1gbit.  Now, someone else 
 (not in the Etherchannel) on port 3/2 starts downloading.  The downloader 
 AND the etherchannel now have to share the 1gbit restriction, since the ASIC 
 handling 3/1-8 has to receive a copy of every etherchannel packet plus every 
 packet for port 3/2 - all through a 1gbit pipe.
 
 The moral of the story is don't etherchannel on WS-6148-GE-TX cards (unless 
 doing so only for redundancy and not for bandwidth). 
 
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[c-nsp] Max performance 6148(A--GE-TX boards

2007-10-25 Thread Holemans Wim
We have a bunch of 65XX with 6148-GE-TX or 6148A-GE-TX boards to connect
a large number of servers and different etherchannels between them.
When i checked the release notes for 12.2SX, i found the following lines
:

...
WS-X6148A-GE-TX
*Number of ports: 48
Number of port groups: 6
Port ranges per port group: 1-8, 9-16, 17-24, 25-32, 33-40, 41-48 *The
aggregate bandwidth of each port group is 1 Gbps.

WS-X6148-GE-TX
*Number of ports: 48
Number of port groups: 2
Port ranges per port group: 1-24, 25-48
Note WS-X6148-GE-TX, WS-X6148V-GE-TX, and WS-X6148-GE-45AF do not
support these features:
*More than 1 Gbps of traffic per EtherChannel 
...

Can anyone comment on this ? Does this mean we can get a max of 6 Gig
throughput on a 6148A card and max 2 Gbit on a 6148 ? Or do these
numbers only apply to etherchannels ? I don't seem to find the right
performance figures for these cards.

Thanks for you comments,

Wim Holemans
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