Re: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?

[adamv0025]

> Saku Ytti
> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 9:50 AM
> 
> On 24 May 2017 at 09:32, Mark Tinka  wrote:
> 
> > Personally, I'd still prefer IOS XE on the ASR920. IOS XR is a little
> > bloated, and to keep the ASR920 competitive, I don't think it will
> > make sense to increase hardware resources needed to run IOS XR.
> 
> Just add commit to IOS-XE and maybe even RPL and we're good.
> 
..and ORR as Mark mentioned and... the list goes on, 
...or just use the damn XR instead of investing time to make XE look more
like XR :)

adam

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Re: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?

[Saku Ytti]

On 24 May 2017 at 09:32, Mark Tinka  wrote:

> Personally, I'd still prefer IOS XE on the ASR920. IOS XR is a little
> bloated, and to keep the ASR920 competitive, I don't think it will make
> sense to increase hardware resources needed to run IOS XR.

Just add commit to IOS-XE and maybe even RPL and we're good.

To be fair, i'm not sure if IOS-XR is inherently that much more
expensive from HW POV. Probably somewhat more memory hungry due to IPC
being too slow, leading to duplication of state in various processes,
but DRAM isn't going to be large contributor to the BOM.

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Re: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?

[Mark Tinka]

On 4/26/17 9:23 AM, George Giannousopoulos wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Concerning IOS-XR on ASR-900 series, during a recent meeting with Cisco we
> were told that it's coming with RSP4..
> Haven't heard anything for the ASR920 though..

Personally, I'd still prefer IOS XE on the ASR920. IOS XR is a little
bloated, and to keep the ASR920 competitive, I don't think it will make
sense to increase hardware resources needed to run IOS XR.

Mark.
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Re: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?

[Mark Tinka]

On 4/25/17 8:22 AM, Mattias Gyllenvarg wrote:

> Perhaps it will take the place of the ME3800X?

The ME3800X still has larger resources than an ME3600X, which is on par
with the ASR920.

I suspect a newer ASR9x0 will replace the ME3800X.

Mark.
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Re: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?

[George Giannousopoulos]

Hi,

Concerning IOS-XR on ASR-900 series, during a recent meeting with Cisco we
were told that it's coming with RSP4..
Haven't heard anything for the ASR920 though..

--
George

On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 10:17 AM, CiscoNSP List <cisconsp_l...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Based on software roadmap, its running XE (Everest currently, then
> Polaris/unified stack(16.5.2))...they "appear" to be targeting sonet/sdh
> with it...Its an ASR920/ASR90x, so XE it has to be I guessunless they
> plan to transition it to XRall the other NCS platforms are XR (I
> believe..5xxx/6xxx are)...It would be like having the ASR9001 running XE,
> where all others run XR,just seems wrong lol.
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
> 
> From: Gert Doering <g...@greenie.muc.de>
> Sent: Wednesday, 26 April 2017 5:36 AM
> To: Erik Sundberg
> Cc: Pete Templin; Gert Doering; CiscoNSP List; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?
>
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 06:21:51PM +, Erik Sundberg wrote:
> > I just had a presentation on this.
> >
> > Sounded like the ASR920 AKA Rebranded as the NCS4200 will be running the
> NCS Code. Sounded like same hardware.
> >
> > Also thinking it's more of a product switch to fill out the NCS Product
> set.
>
> Now the interesting question is, of course, *which* NCS code... as there
> seem to be a number of different "NCS*" families.
>
> An ASR920-style device with IOS XR on it, and actually doing all the
> nice XR things, I'd love to see that.  Even if software upgrades would
> suck.
>
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Re: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?

[CiscoNSP List]

Specific interest here alsowe are about to purchase a heap of 5501's, and 
ASR920's as PEsnow this NCS4200 has thrown a spanner in the works lolXR 
across the board would be much nicerbut if its BU split/politics, then it 
will be interesting times ahead.



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Sent: Wednesday, 26 April 2017 6:23 AM
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Cc: cisco-nsp
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?


> On Apr 25, 2017, at 12:36 PM, Gert Doering <g...@greenie.muc.de> wrote:
>
> Now the interesting question is, of course, *which* NCS code... as there
> seem to be a number of different "NCS*" families.
>
> An ASR920-style device with IOS XR on it, and actually doing all the
> nice XR things, I'd love to see that.  Even if software upgrades would
> suck.

digging through my notes from the service provider partner vt meeting from last 
summer:

(*) ncs4200 positioned as tdm-to-ethernet conversion box to ease the movement 
from legacy networks to ethernet
(*) not considered a replacement for legacy dacs —- cost per port too high
(*) initial market meant to be larger carriers — “ncs” moniker helps with 
positioning in transport teams
(*) initial release will have parity with asr900-series (903/907/920) — 
including running ios-xe
(*) movement towards ios-xr expected sometime within 18 months of platform 
release; not in “ec” yet
(*) module parity between ncs4200 and asr900s at fcs
(*) modules may be developed in either platform that may not necessarily be 
absorbed into the other (think b/u split here)

thats all i could find.
we’re taking specific interest in this platform — as we’re deploying within 
several customer networks.

q.

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Re: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?

[CiscoNSP List]

Based on software roadmap, its running XE (Everest currently, then 
Polaris/unified stack(16.5.2))...they "appear" to be targeting sonet/sdh with 
it...Its an ASR920/ASR90x, so XE it has to be I guessunless they plan to 
transition it to XRall the other NCS platforms are XR (I believe..5xxx/6xxx 
are)...It would be like having the ASR9001 running XE, where all others run 
XR,just seems wrong lol.


Cheers



From: Gert Doering <g...@greenie.muc.de>
Sent: Wednesday, 26 April 2017 5:36 AM
To: Erik Sundberg
Cc: Pete Templin; Gert Doering; CiscoNSP List; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?

Hi,

On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 06:21:51PM +, Erik Sundberg wrote:
> I just had a presentation on this.
>
> Sounded like the ASR920 AKA Rebranded as the NCS4200 will be running the NCS 
> Code. Sounded like same hardware.
>
> Also thinking it's more of a product switch to fill out the NCS Product set.

Now the interesting question is, of course, *which* NCS code... as there
seem to be a number of different "NCS*" families.

An ASR920-style device with IOS XR on it, and actually doing all the
nice XR things, I'd love to see that.  Even if software upgrades would
suck.

gert
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Re: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?

[Gustav Ulander]

Asr920 hw with ios-xr would be interesting depending on price. 

//Gustav 

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I just had a presentation on this.

Sounded like the ASR920 AKA Rebranded as the NCS4200 will be running the NCS 
Code. Sounded like same hardware.

Also thinking it's more of a product switch to fill out the NCS Product set.



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Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 10:09 AM
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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?

Or the Nexus 5010 vs. UCS Fabric Interconnect debacle? I think there's one 
extra CPU/ASIC on the board of the FIs, and the paint color is different, but 
the code is different.


On 4/25/17 4:24 AM, Gert Doering wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:06:33AM +, CiscoNSP List wrote:
>> If feature parity between the 2 are identicalIt makes no sense?
> Look at the history of the 6500/7600 split...
>
> Starting out with identical hardware, just differently coloured, sold 
> by different BUs.
>
> Then start differenciating - one BU builds a faster supervisor, and 
> adds a software check "if we detect that the other BU got the money
> for this chassis, refuse to boot".   The other BU starts adding nice
> OS features that you really want (but are not supported on the *other* 
> chassis, then) and down the drain goes the journey.
>
> I ended up having 6500s, because we wanted IOS modularity (which 
> turned out to be no good, and was discontinued), and was lacking all 
> the newer
> control-plane(!) features the 7600 IOS received after the split...
>
>
> (cisco-nsp archives have lots of material on this)
>
> gert
>
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Re: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?

[quinn snyder]

> On Apr 25, 2017, at 12:36 PM, Gert Doering  wrote:
> 
> Now the interesting question is, of course, *which* NCS code... as there
> seem to be a number of different "NCS*" families.
> 
> An ASR920-style device with IOS XR on it, and actually doing all the
> nice XR things, I'd love to see that.  Even if software upgrades would
> suck.

digging through my notes from the service provider partner vt meeting from last 
summer:

(*) ncs4200 positioned as tdm-to-ethernet conversion box to ease the movement 
from legacy networks to ethernet
(*) not considered a replacement for legacy dacs —- cost per port too high
(*) initial market meant to be larger carriers — “ncs” moniker helps with 
positioning in transport teams
(*) initial release will have parity with asr900-series (903/907/920) — 
including running ios-xe
(*) movement towards ios-xr expected sometime within 18 months of platform 
release; not in “ec” yet
(*) module parity between ncs4200 and asr900s at fcs
(*) modules may be developed in either platform that may not necessarily be 
absorbed into the other (think b/u split here)

thats all i could find.
we’re taking specific interest in this platform — as we’re deploying within 
several customer networks.

q.

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Re: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?

[Aaron Gould]

NCS code ?

Going off what I know of the NCS5x00 it runs IOS XR 6.x

So I guess that would be different from the 920 since I recall it ran XE

-Aaron


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Re: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?

[Aaron Gould]

Maybe it's to generate more sales... 

Like the reese's peanut butter cup was good, but wait til you try the
reese's peanut butter egg.  ... LOL

-Aaron


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Re: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?

[Aaron Gould]

Perhaps similar to what juniper does with the following...

juniper acx5048
https://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/release-independent/junos/information
-products/pathway-pages/acx-series/acx5000/ 

juniper qfx5100
https://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/release-independent/junos/information
-products/pathway-pages/hardware/qfx-series/qfx5100.html

-Aaron


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Re: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?

[Gert Doering]

Hi,

On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 06:21:51PM +, Erik Sundberg wrote:
> I just had a presentation on this.
> 
> Sounded like the ASR920 AKA Rebranded as the NCS4200 will be running the NCS 
> Code. Sounded like same hardware.
> 
> Also thinking it's more of a product switch to fill out the NCS Product set.

Now the interesting question is, of course, *which* NCS code... as there
seem to be a number of different "NCS*" families.

An ASR920-style device with IOS XR on it, and actually doing all the
nice XR things, I'd love to see that.  Even if software upgrades would
suck.

gert
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Re: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?

[Erik Sundberg]

I just had a presentation on this.

Sounded like the ASR920 AKA Rebranded as the NCS4200 will be running the NCS 
Code. Sounded like same hardware.

Also thinking it's more of a product switch to fill out the NCS Product set.



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Templin
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 10:09 AM
To: Gert Doering; CiscoNSP List
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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?

Or the Nexus 5010 vs. UCS Fabric Interconnect debacle? I think there's one 
extra CPU/ASIC on the board of the FIs, and the paint color is different, but 
the code is different.


On 4/25/17 4:24 AM, Gert Doering wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:06:33AM +, CiscoNSP List wrote:
>> If feature parity between the 2 are identicalIt makes no sense?
> Look at the history of the 6500/7600 split...
>
> Starting out with identical hardware, just differently coloured, sold
> by different BUs.
>
> Then start differenciating - one BU builds a faster supervisor, and
> adds a software check "if we detect that the other BU got the money
> for this chassis, refuse to boot".   The other BU starts adding nice
> OS features that you really want (but are not supported on the *other*
> chassis, then) and down the drain goes the journey.
>
> I ended up having 6500s, because we wanted IOS modularity (which
> turned out to be no good, and was discontinued), and was lacking all
> the newer
> control-plane(!) features the 7600 IOS received after the split...
>
>
> (cisco-nsp archives have lots of material on this)
>
> gert
>
>
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Re: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?

[Pete Templin]

Or the Nexus 5010 vs. UCS Fabric Interconnect debacle? I think there's 
one extra CPU/ASIC on the board of the FIs, and the paint color is 
different, but the code is different.



On 4/25/17 4:24 AM, Gert Doering wrote:

Hi,

On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:06:33AM +, CiscoNSP List wrote:

If feature parity between the 2 are identicalIt makes no sense?

Look at the history of the 6500/7600 split...

Starting out with identical hardware, just differently coloured, sold
by different BUs.

Then start differenciating - one BU builds a faster supervisor, and
adds a software check "if we detect that the other BU got the money
for this chassis, refuse to boot".   The other BU starts adding nice
OS features that you really want (but are not supported on the *other*
chassis, then) and down the drain goes the journey.

I ended up having 6500s, because we wanted IOS modularity (which turned
out to be no good, and was discontinued), and was lacking all the newer
control-plane(!) features the 7600 IOS received after the split...


(cisco-nsp archives have lots of material on this)

gert


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Re: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?

[Nick Cutting]

Haha Gert your comments are the best.

Probably so that a sales guy in a room crafting an expensive solution can use 
the NCS branding for more of the design he/she is proposing.

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Doering
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 2:46 AM
To: Ted Johansson <ted.johans...@tele2.com>
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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?

Hi,

On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 06:07:11AM +, Ted Johansson wrote:
> The ASR900 series will not be replaced by NCS4200, both series will co-exist.

Sounds like the BUs suddenly remembered how much the customers appreciated the 
6500/7600 split, and wanted to re-enact that great success again.

Oh, wait.

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Re: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?

[Gert Doering]

Hi,

On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:06:33AM +, CiscoNSP List wrote:
> If feature parity between the 2 are identicalIt makes no sense?

Look at the history of the 6500/7600 split...

Starting out with identical hardware, just differently coloured, sold
by different BUs.

Then start differenciating - one BU builds a faster supervisor, and
adds a software check "if we detect that the other BU got the money
for this chassis, refuse to boot".   The other BU starts adding nice
OS features that you really want (but are not supported on the *other*
chassis, then) and down the drain goes the journey.

I ended up having 6500s, because we wanted IOS modularity (which turned
out to be no good, and was discontinued), and was lacking all the newer
control-plane(!) features the 7600 IOS received after the split...


(cisco-nsp archives have lots of material on this)

gert
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Re: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?

[CiscoNSP List]

Why? Why have an exact copy of the ASR92x/ASR90xI fail to see the logic, 
other than they are using a new chipset in the NCS42x that is not compatible 
with the architecture of the ASR9x?

If feature parity between the 2 are identicalIt makes no sense?

Thanks


From: Ted Johansson <ted.johans...@tele2.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 25 April 2017 4:07 PM
To: CiscoNSP List; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?

The ASR900 series will not be replaced by NCS4200, both series will co-exist.

Best Regards
Ted

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From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: den 25 april 2017 06:05
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?

Just noticed these on Cisco's site - They appear to be just re-badged 
ASR920/ASR900's? (They even use ASR920 power supplies etc)

Anyone have any info on them?  Is this Cisco discretely releasing a "new" 
ASR920/900 that supports Laeba-based chips perhaps, and ASR900/920 will be 
"replaced"?

Cant find much info on them re hardware specsbut only had a quick 
google/search on Cisco's Site.

Links on both -

ie.   NCS4201 = ASR920-24SZ-M
NCS4202 = ASR920-12SZ-IM

They look identical anyway :)

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/optical-networking/network-convergence-system-4200-series/datasheet-c78-736910.html

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/routers/asr-920-series-aggregation-services-router/datasheet-c78-733397.html

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/routers/asr920/hardware/installation/guide-12sz-im/b-asr-920-12-SZ-IM/b-asr-920-crete_chapter_00.html

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/routers/asr-920-series-aggregation-services-router/models-comparison.html

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/optical-networking/network-convergence-system-4200-series/datasheet-c78-738102.html

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/routers/asr-903-series-aggregation-services-routers/datasheet-c78-738339.html


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Re: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?

[Gert Doering]

Hi,

On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 06:07:11AM +, Ted Johansson wrote:
> The ASR900 series will not be replaced by NCS4200, both series will co-exist.

Sounds like the BUs suddenly remembered how much the customers 
appreciated the 6500/7600 split, and wanted to re-enact that great
success again.

Oh, wait.

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Re: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?

[Samit]

seems like it is just re-branding  and positioning it as NCS Transport box
instead of ASR IP box.

On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Mattias Gyllenvarg <matt...@gyllenvarg.se>
wrote:

> Perhaps it will take the place of the ME3800X?
>
> tis 25 apr. 2017 kl 08:08 skrev Ted Johansson <ted.johans...@tele2.com>:
>
> > The ASR900 series will not be replaced by NCS4200, both series will
> > co-exist.
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Ted
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of
> > CiscoNSP List
> > Sent: den 25 april 2017 06:05
> > To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
> > Subject: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?
> >
> > Just noticed these on Cisco's site - They appear to be just re-badged
> > ASR920/ASR900's? (They even use ASR920 power supplies etc)
> >
> > Anyone have any info on them?  Is this Cisco discretely releasing a "new"
> > ASR920/900 that supports Laeba-based chips perhaps, and ASR900/920 will
> be
> > "replaced"?
> >
> > Cant find much info on them re hardware specsbut only had a quick
> > google/search on Cisco's Site.
> >
> > Links on both -
> >
> > ie.   NCS4201 = ASR920-24SZ-M
> > NCS4202 = ASR920-12SZ-IM
> >
> > They look identical anyway :)
> >
> >
> > http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/optical-
> networking/network-convergence-system-4200-series/datasheet-c78-736910.
> html
> >
> >
> > http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/routers/
> asr-920-series-aggregation-services-router/datasheet-c78-733397.html
> >
> >
> > http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/routers/asr920/
> hardware/installation/guide-12sz-im/b-asr-920-12-SZ-IM/b-
> asr-920-crete_chapter_00.html
> >
> >
> > http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/routers/asr-920-
> series-aggregation-services-router/models-comparison.html
> >
> >
> > http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/optical-
> networking/network-convergence-system-4200-series/datasheet-c78-738102.
> html
> >
> >
> > http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/routers/
> asr-903-series-aggregation-services-routers/datasheet-c78-738339.html
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
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Re: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?

[Mattias Gyllenvarg]

Perhaps it will take the place of the ME3800X?

tis 25 apr. 2017 kl 08:08 skrev Ted Johansson <ted.johans...@tele2.com>:

> The ASR900 series will not be replaced by NCS4200, both series will
> co-exist.
>
> Best Regards
> Ted
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of
> CiscoNSP List
> Sent: den 25 april 2017 06:05
> To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
> Subject: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?
>
> Just noticed these on Cisco's site - They appear to be just re-badged
> ASR920/ASR900's? (They even use ASR920 power supplies etc)
>
> Anyone have any info on them?  Is this Cisco discretely releasing a "new"
> ASR920/900 that supports Laeba-based chips perhaps, and ASR900/920 will be
> "replaced"?
>
> Cant find much info on them re hardware specsbut only had a quick
> google/search on Cisco's Site.
>
> Links on both -
>
> ie.   NCS4201 = ASR920-24SZ-M
> NCS4202 = ASR920-12SZ-IM
>
> They look identical anyway :)
>
>
> http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/optical-networking/network-convergence-system-4200-series/datasheet-c78-736910.html
>
>
> http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/routers/asr-920-series-aggregation-services-router/datasheet-c78-733397.html
>
>
> http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/routers/asr920/hardware/installation/guide-12sz-im/b-asr-920-12-SZ-IM/b-asr-920-crete_chapter_00.html
>
>
> http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/routers/asr-920-series-aggregation-services-router/models-comparison.html
>
>
> http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/optical-networking/network-convergence-system-4200-series/datasheet-c78-738102.html
>
>
> http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/routers/asr-903-series-aggregation-services-routers/datasheet-c78-738339.html
>
>
> Cheers
>
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Re: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?

[Ted Johansson]

The ASR900 series will not be replaced by NCS4200, both series will co-exist.

Best Regards
Ted

-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
CiscoNSP List
Sent: den 25 april 2017 06:05
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?

Just noticed these on Cisco's site - They appear to be just re-badged 
ASR920/ASR900's? (They even use ASR920 power supplies etc)

Anyone have any info on them?  Is this Cisco discretely releasing a "new" 
ASR920/900 that supports Laeba-based chips perhaps, and ASR900/920 will be 
"replaced"?

Cant find much info on them re hardware specsbut only had a quick 
google/search on Cisco's Site.

Links on both -

ie.   NCS4201 = ASR920-24SZ-M
NCS4202 = ASR920-12SZ-IM

They look identical anyway :)

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/optical-networking/network-convergence-system-4200-series/datasheet-c78-736910.html

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/routers/asr-920-series-aggregation-services-router/datasheet-c78-733397.html

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/routers/asr920/hardware/installation/guide-12sz-im/b-asr-920-12-SZ-IM/b-asr-920-crete_chapter_00.html

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/routers/asr-920-series-aggregation-services-router/models-comparison.html

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/optical-networking/network-convergence-system-4200-series/datasheet-c78-738102.html

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/routers/asr-903-series-aggregation-services-routers/datasheet-c78-738339.html


Cheers

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[c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?

[CiscoNSP List]

Just noticed these on Cisco's site - They appear to be just re-badged 
ASR920/ASR900's? (They even use ASR920 power supplies etc)

Anyone have any info on them?  Is this Cisco discretely releasing a "new" 
ASR920/900 that supports Laeba-based chips perhaps, and ASR900/920 will be 
"replaced"?

Cant find much info on them re hardware specsbut only had a quick 
google/search on Cisco's Site.

Links on both -

ie.   NCS4201 = ASR920-24SZ-M
NCS4202 = ASR920-12SZ-IM

They look identical anyway :)

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/optical-networking/network-convergence-system-4200-series/datasheet-c78-736910.html

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/routers/asr-920-series-aggregation-services-router/datasheet-c78-733397.html

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/routers/asr920/hardware/installation/guide-12sz-im/b-asr-920-12-SZ-IM/b-asr-920-crete_chapter_00.html

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/routers/asr-920-series-aggregation-services-router/models-comparison.html

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/optical-networking/network-convergence-system-4200-series/datasheet-c78-738102.html

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/routers/asr-903-series-aggregation-services-routers/datasheet-c78-738339.html


Cheers

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