Re: [c-nsp] SXI out

2008-12-08 Thread Stephen Fulton

Gert, et al:

No issues here, non-modular, semi-production ME6524.  IPv4, SNMP, BGP (full 
table filtered by RIR allocation), MPLS.  IPv6 soon.  SCP works.  So far, so good.


-- S.

Gert Doering wrote:

Hi,

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:47:32AM -0500, Jared Mauch wrote:

I suspect SXI is highly deployable. :)


Just to add a data point to this.  So far, our test SXI box (semi-production,
not only lab) has been exceedingly well-behaved - IPv4, IPv6, BGP, EIGRP,
OSPFv3, MPLS, SNMP just works.

Non-modular, though.  I didn't have time to test modular yet (soon!).

gert




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Re: [c-nsp] SXI out

2008-12-07 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:47:32AM -0500, Jared Mauch wrote:
   I suspect SXI is highly deployable. :)

Just to add a data point to this.  So far, our test SXI box (semi-production,
not only lab) has been exceedingly well-behaved - IPv4, IPv6, BGP, EIGRP,
OSPFv3, MPLS, SNMP just works.

Non-modular, though.  I didn't have time to test modular yet (soon!).

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Re: [c-nsp] SXI out

2008-12-07 Thread A . L . M . Buxey
Hi,

 Just to add a data point to this.  So far, our test SXI box (semi-production,
 not only lab) has been exceedingly well-behaved - IPv4, IPv6, BGP, EIGRP,
 OSPFv3, MPLS, SNMP just works.
 
 Non-modular, though.  I didn't have time to test modular yet (soon!).

same story here - non modular SXI bahaving itself so far - we
had to jump over after SXH3a spontaneously rebooted after enabled 
IPv6 on a vlan and turing on ND supression :-(

alan
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Re: [c-nsp] SXI out

2008-11-17 Thread Charles Spurgeon
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 01:44:20PM -0200, Rubens Kuhl Jr. wrote:
 Making the same file for release notes of SXH and SXI makes /me think
 that SXH4 won't see the light... what do people have heard about it ?

I found SXH4 on the download site, but not in the old software
tree I usually use. 

Instead, I found it in the endless set of folders of the new software
tree, which I have taken to calling Zork for Downloads (you are in
a maze of twisty folders, all alike):

http://tools.cisco.com/support/downloads/go/IOSPlatform.x?sftType=IOS+Softwaremdfid=280357772treeName=RoutersmdfLevel=SERIESurl=nullmodelName=Cisco+Catalyst+6509-E+SwitchisPlatform=NtreeMdfId=268437717relmdfid=279308101hybrid=Ymodifmdfid=280829702imname=Cisco+Catalyst+6500+Series+Supervisor+Engine+720+%2F+MSFC3

So far all I have done with it is to boot it into a lab router.

-Charles

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Re: [c-nsp] SXI out

2008-11-16 Thread Ben Basler (bbasler)
6VPE configuration (6VPE support IS listed in the release notes):
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/ipv6/configuration/guide/ip6-ov_mpls
_6vpe.html#wp1056143 

IPv6 feature support overview (to be updated with SXI information):
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/ipv6/configuration/guide/ip6-roadmap
.html 

Maintenance support policy SXH/SXI:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps5718/ps708/prod_bu
lletin0900aecd804f0694.html 
 
Cheers,
Ben


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:cisco-nsp-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Mayers
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:14 AM
 To: Hroi Sigurdsson
 Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] SXI out
 
 Phil Mayers wrote:
  Hroi Sigurdsson wrote:
  Jared Mauch wrote:
  It appears cisco released SXI already.
 
  http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/Software/Iosplanner/Planner-
 tool/iosplanner.cgi?release_name=12.2.33-
 SXImajorRel=12.2state=:RLtype=Early%20Deployment
 
 
  It looks like there is support for multi-AF (v4/v6) VRFs. Is it
real
  or just a tease?
 
  It would appear not:
 
 Oh wait - no, it would in fact appear so:
 
 mls ipv6 vrf
 
 ...sneaky command you have to type in, then the IPv6 vrf commands
 become
 available.
 
 Neat-o!
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Re: [c-nsp] SXI out

2008-11-13 Thread Bernhard Schmidt
Tolstykh, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Link to the release notes / new features etc.

 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst6500/ios/12.2SX/rel
 ease/notes/ol_14271.html#wp4208036

Cisco promised us a lot of new IPv6-related features for SXI, including
IPv6 policy-based routing, DHCPv6 relay and (most important) IPv6 on
VSS. None of that is listed in the release notes.

Did anyone test already?

Bernhard

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Re: [c-nsp] SXI out

2008-11-13 Thread Phil Mayers

Hroi Sigurdsson wrote:

Jared Mauch wrote:

It appears cisco released SXI already.

http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/Software/Iosplanner/Planner-tool/iosplanner.cgi?release_name=12.2.33-SXImajorRel=12.2state=:RLtype=Early%20Deployment 



It looks like there is support for multi-AF (v4/v6) VRFs. Is it real or 
just a tease?


The CLI is listed, not necessarily the support for 6vPE. I'm loading it 
onto a box now and will test it.

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Re: [c-nsp] SXI out

2008-11-13 Thread Phil Mayers

Hroi Sigurdsson wrote:

Jared Mauch wrote:

It appears cisco released SXI already.

http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/Software/Iosplanner/Planner-tool/iosplanner.cgi?release_name=12.2.33-SXImajorRel=12.2state=:RLtype=Early%20Deployment 



It looks like there is support for multi-AF (v4/v6) VRFs. Is it real or 
just a tease?


It would appear not:

core-spare(config)#vrf definition PROD
core-spare(config-vrf)#address-family ipv6
% VRF address family ipv6 is not supported or not enabled
% Can't activate address-family 'ipv6'

...likewise in global config mode:

core-spare(config)#ipv6 unicast-routing ?
  cr

i.e. no vrf argument option.

Various bits of fiddling indicate it has the CLI, but not the 6vPE 
support yet (maybe next release)

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Re: [c-nsp] SXI out

2008-11-13 Thread Bernhard Schmidt
Tim Durack wrote:

Hi,

I was hoping that

 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst6500/ios/12.2SX/configuration/guide/vss.html
 
 Software Features
 
 With some exceptions, the virtual switching system has feature parity
 with the standalone Catalyst 6500 series switch. Major exceptions include:
 
 •The virtual switching system does not support MPLS or IPv6.

was bogus and old information. But a VSS cluster with 12.2(33)SXI does
not accept any IPv6 commands, so it's basically useless to us.

Let's see what our account manager has to say about that, I'm very
disappointed right now. SXI runs two months late and then misses most of
the features we were promised.

Regards,
Bernhard
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Re: [c-nsp] SXI out

2008-11-13 Thread Phil Mayers

Bernhard Schmidt wrote:

Tolstykh, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Link to the release notes / new features etc.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst6500/ios/12.2SX/rel
ease/notes/ol_14271.html#wp4208036


Cisco promised us a lot of new IPv6-related features for SXI, including
IPv6 policy-based routing, DHCPv6 relay and (most important) IPv6 on


v6 relay and v6 HSRP are there:

 ip vrf forwarding PROD
 ip address 192.168.60.254 255.255.255.0
 ipv6 address 2001:DB8:500::1/64
 ipv6 dhcp relay destination 2001:DB8:502::3
 ipv6 dhcp relay destination 2001:DB8:502::4
 standby version 2
 standby 0 ipv6 autoconfig

...I'll spin up a DHCPv6 server later and see if it works.
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Re: [c-nsp] SXI out

2008-11-13 Thread Hroi Sigurdsson

Jared Mauch wrote:

It appears cisco released SXI already.

http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/Software/Iosplanner/Planner-tool/iosplanner.cgi?release_name=12.2.33-SXImajorRel=12.2state=:RLtype=Early%20Deployment


It looks like there is support for multi-AF (v4/v6) VRFs. Is it real or 
just a tease?


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Re: [c-nsp] SXI out

2008-11-13 Thread Tim Durack
http://tools.cisco.com/search/display?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cisco.com%2Fen%2FUS%2Fprod%2Fcollateral%2Fiosswrel%2Fps8802%2Fps6970%2Fps6017%2Fps9673%2Fproduct_bulletin_c25-503086.htmlpos=1strqueryid=1websessionid=m7dr3yFygHTz5Rv3D5SKdLV

The DHCPv6 Relay component is enhanced to support a stateless Relay. Remote
Id and Interface Id options insertion is performed. DHCPv6 Relay now works
in conjunction with Prefix Delegation for adding or removing corresponding
routes in the Relay agent routing table.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst6500/ios/12.2SX/configuration/guide/vss.html

Software Features

With some exceptions, the virtual switching system has feature parity with
the standalone Catalyst 6500 series switch. Major exceptions include:

•The virtual switching system does not support MPLS or IPv6.

•In software releases earlier than Cisco IOS Release 12.2(33)SXI, port-based
QoS and port ACLs (PACLs) are supported only on Layer 2 single-chassis or
multichassis EtherChannel (MEC) links. Beginning with Cisco IOS Release
12.2(33)SXI, port-based QoS and PACLs can be applied to any physical port in
the VSS, excluding ports in the VSL. PACLs can be applied to no more than
2046 ports in the VSS.

•The virtual switching system does not support supervisor engine redundancy
within a chassis.

•The virtual switching system does not support Lawful Intercept.

Got to wonder whether VSS is going to make it or not...

Tim:

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 5:35 AM, Bernhard Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Tolstykh, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Link to the release notes / new features etc.
 
  http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst6500/ios/12.2SX/rel
  ease/notes/ol_14271.html#wp4208036

 Cisco promised us a lot of new IPv6-related features for SXI, including
 IPv6 policy-based routing, DHCPv6 relay and (most important) IPv6 on
 VSS. None of that is listed in the release notes.

 Did anyone test already?

 Bernhard

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Re: [c-nsp] SXI out

2008-11-13 Thread Rubens Kuhl Jr.
Making the same file for release notes of SXH and SXI makes /me think
that SXH4 won't see the light... what do people have heard about it ?

About SXI, does it look deployable or SXI3 or SXI4 is the version to look for ?
(may be too soon to tell, I know)

One thing we noticed about promised features lacking is REP(Resilient
Ethernet) on Cat6K.

Rubens


On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:59 AM, Tolstykh, Andrew
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Link to the release notes / new features etc.

 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst6500/ios/12.2SX/rel
 ease/notes/ol_14271.html#wp4208036


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It appears cisco released SXI already.

 http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/Software/Iosplanner/Planner-tool/iosplanner
 .cgi?release_name=12.2.33-SXImajorRel=12.2state=:RLtype=Early%20Deplo
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Re: [c-nsp] SXI out

2008-11-13 Thread Dale W. Carder


On Nov 13, 2008, at 9:44 AM, Rubens Kuhl Jr. wrote:


About SXI, does it look deployable or SXI3 or SXI4 is the version to  
look for ?


I encourage my competitors to deploy SXI.  Now.  ;-)

Really though, I couldn't imagine touching this stuff before
safe-harbor does or at least waiting for SXI attempt 2 or
SXI attempt 3.

The ipv6 feature set could be compelling for those of us
still parked on SXF.  DHCPv6 relay should be in there, maybe
v6 for HSRP, too.  There could be some better v6 mib support
(comparable to J?), but I haven't looked yet.

Dale

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Re: [c-nsp] SXI out

2008-11-13 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:47:32AM -0500, Jared Mauch wrote:
   It also appears that they now have ssh+ipv6 back in regular ipservices
 and you can get the lan only image too for those, meaning lots of flash
 savings.

Is there a reasonable IPv6 - IOS image package feature matrix somewhere
(for SXI)?

Jared, have you tried modular SXI as well?

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Re: [c-nsp] SXI out

2008-11-13 Thread Jared Mauch
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 05:14:23PM +0100, Gert Doering wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:47:32AM -0500, Jared Mauch wrote:
  It also appears that they now have ssh+ipv6 back in regular ipservices
  and you can get the lan only image too for those, meaning lots of flash
  savings.
 
 Is there a reasonable IPv6 - IOS image package feature matrix somewhere
 (for SXI)?
 
 Jared, have you tried modular SXI as well?

Yes I have, but I would recommend doing testing in
your environment to determine the exact cpu impact of the modular vs
non-modular image set on your configuration.

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Re: [c-nsp] SXI out

2008-11-13 Thread Phil Mayers

Jared Mauch wrote:

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 01:44:43PM -0200, Rubens Kuhl Jr. wrote:

Making the same file for release notes of SXH and SXI makes /me think
that SXH4 won't see the light... what do people have heard about it ?

About SXI, does it look deployable or SXI3 or SXI4 is the version to look for ?
(may be too soon to tell, I know)


I suspect SXI is highly deployable. :)


Did you mean deployable or deplorable ;o)

Rubens,

A briefing we had 18 months or so ago basically said:

 * SXH - initial release, to be released shortly (hahaha) some 12.2(33) 
features, each version will have 12 months support


 * SXI - major release, to be released later (hohoho) most features, 
will have the extended 24 months support that some SXF releases had


Information is scanty (non-existent?) but I suspect something like the 
following happened:


 * Work starts on SXH *and* SXI more or less simultaneously

 * Problems start in SXH train e.g. they start to slip, finding VSS, 
sup720-10g and 6708/6716 linecard hardware support are harder


 * SXH train gets even later - cisco add more manpower making it later 
still - eventually gets released in a pretty shabby state


 * Meanwhile all this time SXI has been working on the other features 
and ironically since it's had a later deadline, has been going slower 
and is more on-track


I personally doubt we will see much more of SXH. We'll probably see an 
SXH4, since there are known crash bugs in SXH3a, but I'd be surprised to 
see anything beyond that.






It also appears that they now have ssh+ipv6 back in regular ipservices
and you can get the lan only image too for those, meaning lots of flash
savings.

I've done some basic testing in the past ~12 hours of the
image and it seems to perform on par with our SXF counterparts.


I wonder if people are interested in coordinating their testing and 
pooling results?

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Re: [c-nsp] SXI out

2008-11-13 Thread Tim Durack
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Phil Mayers [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Jared Mauch wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 01:44:43PM -0200, Rubens Kuhl Jr. wrote:

 Making the same file for release notes of SXH and SXI makes /me think
 that SXH4 won't see the light... what do people have heard about it ?

 About SXI, does it look deployable or SXI3 or SXI4 is the version to look
 for ?
 (may be too soon to tell, I know)


I suspect SXI is highly deployable. :)


 Did you mean deployable or deplorable ;o)

 Rubens,

 A briefing we had 18 months or so ago basically said:

  * SXH - initial release, to be released shortly (hahaha) some 12.2(33)
 features, each version will have 12 months support

  * SXI - major release, to be released later (hohoho) most features, will
 have the extended 24 months support that some SXF releases had

 Information is scanty (non-existent?) but I suspect something like the
 following happened:

  * Work starts on SXH *and* SXI more or less simultaneously

  * Problems start in SXH train e.g. they start to slip, finding VSS,
 sup720-10g and 6708/6716 linecard hardware support are harder

  * SXH train gets even later - cisco add more manpower making it later
 still - eventually gets released in a pretty shabby state

  * Meanwhile all this time SXI has been working on the other features and
 ironically since it's had a later deadline, has been going slower and is
 more on-track

 I personally doubt we will see much more of SXH. We'll probably see an
 SXH4, since there are known crash bugs in SXH3a, but I'd be surprised to see
 anything beyond that.




It also appears that they now have ssh+ipv6 back in regular
 ipservices
 and you can get the lan only image too for those, meaning lots of flash
 savings.

I've done some basic testing in the past ~12 hours of the
 image and it seems to perform on par with our SXF counterparts.


 I wonder if people are interested in coordinating their testing and pooling
 results?


Sounds like a good idea. I have four chassis running SXI modular, waiting to
go into production next week. OSPF/BGP/MPLS/HSRP type stuff configured and
working, no load on them at this point though.

Survived a bad experience with SXH2 this week, so I'm looking for something
better...



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Re: [c-nsp] SXI out

2008-11-13 Thread Phil Mayers

Jared Mauch wrote:

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:43:23PM -0500, Tim Durack wrote:

I wonder if people are interested in coordinating their testing and pooling
results?


Sounds like a good idea. I have four chassis running SXI modular, waiting to
go into production next week. OSPF/BGP/MPLS/HSRP type stuff configured and
working, no load on them at this point though.

Survived a bad experience with SXH2 this week, so I'm looking for something
better...


If people want to, I can set up a wiki where you can post
test cases, results, configurations, feature data, etc..


I already started to whack some stuff in cluepon:

http://cisco.cluepon.net/index.php/Ios_sxi

...but we could move it if people want (I'm not a big MediaWiki fan 
personally)


Hmm. Something seems to be up with the mac aging timer default.
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Re: [c-nsp] SXI out

2008-11-13 Thread Phil Mayers

Phil Mayers wrote:

Hroi Sigurdsson wrote:

Jared Mauch wrote:

It appears cisco released SXI already.

http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/Software/Iosplanner/Planner-tool/iosplanner.cgi?release_name=12.2.33-SXImajorRel=12.2state=:RLtype=Early%20Deployment 



It looks like there is support for multi-AF (v4/v6) VRFs. Is it real 
or just a tease?


It would appear not:


Oh wait - no, it would in fact appear so:

mls ipv6 vrf

...sneaky command you have to type in, then the IPv6 vrf commands become 
available.


Neat-o!
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Re: [c-nsp] SXI out

2008-11-13 Thread Hank Nussbacher

At 12:46 PM 13-11-08 -0500, Jared Mauch wrote:


If people want to, I can set up a wiki where you can post
test cases, results, configurations, feature data, etc..

Would that be of value?


I can't wait for the black T-shirt:

I have SXI - do you?

-Hank



- Jared

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Re: [c-nsp] SXI out

2008-11-13 Thread Mark Boolootian

  I can't wait for the black T-shirt:
 
  I have SXI - do you?

I'm SXI - are you?
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Re: [c-nsp] SXI out

2008-11-13 Thread Ben Steele
You'll have to beat all the girls off with your linecards with a t-shirt
that cool!

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At 12:46 PM 13-11-08 -0500, Jared Mauch wrote:

 If people want to, I can set up a wiki where you can post
test cases, results, configurations, feature data, etc..

 Would that be of value?

I can't wait for the black T-shirt:

I have SXI - do you?

-Hank


 - Jared

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[c-nsp] SXI out

2008-11-12 Thread Jared Mauch

It appears cisco released SXI already.

http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/Software/Iosplanner/Planner-tool/iosplanner.cgi?release_name=12.2.33-SXImajorRel=12.2state=:RLtype=Early%20Deployment
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Re: [c-nsp] SXI out

2008-11-12 Thread Tolstykh, Andrew
Link to the release notes / new features etc.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst6500/ios/12.2SX/rel
ease/notes/ol_14271.html#wp4208036


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It appears cisco released SXI already.

http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/Software/Iosplanner/Planner-tool/iosplanner
.cgi?release_name=12.2.33-SXImajorRel=12.2state=:RLtype=Early%20Deplo
yment
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