[c-nsp] Searching for cheap IPv6 NAT-PT Cisco-device

2011-02-25 Thread Andreas Mueller


Hello,

I would like to connect IPv4-only devices like printers to an IPv6-only 
Network and I thought about doing this with NAT-PT on a cisco-device. To 
play around with NAT-PT and do some tests I need a cheap device.
According to the cisco document Implementing NAT-PT for IPv6 
(http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/ipv6/configuration/guide/ip6-nat_trnsln_ps6350_TSD_Products_Configuration_Guide_Chapter.html)
I need IOS 12.4(2)T if I want to use all the available features. What is 
the cheapest cisco-device with at least two or better four fast ethernet 
ports running IOS 12.4(2)T to evaluate, if configuring NAT-PT is a 
solution for my problem ?


greetings and thanks for help,

Andreas

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Re: [c-nsp] Searching for cheap IPv6 NAT-PT Cisco-device

2011-02-25 Thread Piotr Wojciechowski
On 2/25/11 2:17 PM, Andreas Mueller wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I would like to connect IPv4-only devices like printers to an IPv6-only
 Network and I thought about doing this with NAT-PT on a cisco-device. To
 play around with NAT-PT and do some tests I need a cheap device.
 According to the cisco document Implementing NAT-PT for IPv6
 (http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/ipv6/configuration/guide/ip6-nat_trnsln_ps6350_TSD_Products_Configuration_Guide_Chapter.html)
 
 I need IOS 12.4(2)T if I want to use all the available features. What is
 the cheapest cisco-device with at least two or better four fast ethernet
 ports running IOS 12.4(2)T to evaluate, if configuring NAT-PT is a
 solution for my problem ?
 
 greetings and thanks for help,
 

Hello Andreas,

In general performance of NAT64 is not really high. I remember on Cisco
2801 ~4Mbit was all I could get. I used one of the latest 12.4T release,
12.4(24)T as far as I remember. The smaller reasonable device to play
with would be Cisco 1841 but it's also available on 870 and 880
platform. Of course for the production network I'd check how much
traffic it's going to handle (and not only in number of TCP sessions
that have to be translated but throughput itself, because NAT64 is
process switched since 12.4(20)T, until that it was fast switched).

Regards,
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http://ccieplayground.wordpress.com | that you've got no one to pray to
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Re: [c-nsp] Searching for cheap IPv6 NAT-PT Cisco-device

2011-02-25 Thread Ge Moua
what about the option of doing a 6to4 relay; we do this with some 
low-end c2621xm routers and these work just fine


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On 2/25/11 7:17 AM, Andreas Mueller wrote:


Hello,

I would like to connect IPv4-only devices like printers to an 
IPv6-only Network and I thought about doing this with NAT-PT on a 
cisco-device. To play around with NAT-PT and do some tests I need a 
cheap device.
According to the cisco document Implementing NAT-PT for IPv6 
(http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/ipv6/configuration/guide/ip6-nat_trnsln_ps6350_TSD_Products_Configuration_Guide_Chapter.html)
I need IOS 12.4(2)T if I want to use all the available features. What 
is the cheapest cisco-device with at least two or better four fast 
ethernet ports running IOS 12.4(2)T to evaluate, if configuring NAT-PT 
is a solution for my problem ?


greetings and thanks for help,

Andreas


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Re: [c-nsp] Searching for cheap IPv6 NAT-PT Cisco-device

2011-02-25 Thread Jeff Wojciechowski
Pitor-

Please forgive my ignorance:

I am attempting to get familiar with this myself on a 2811 running 12.4(24)T4 - 
but that's IP Base.

I don't even have the option to assign an IPv6 address to an interface.

Do you happen to know which flavor image I need?

Regards,

-Jeff Wojciechowski


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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Searching for cheap IPv6 NAT-PT Cisco-device

On 2/25/11 2:17 PM, Andreas Mueller wrote:

 Hello,

 I would like to connect IPv4-only devices like printers to an
 IPv6-only Network and I thought about doing this with NAT-PT on a
 cisco-device. To play around with NAT-PT and do some tests I need a cheap 
 device.
 According to the cisco document Implementing NAT-PT for IPv6
 (http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/ipv6/configuration/guide/ip6-nat_
 trnsln_ps6350_TSD_Products_Configuration_Guide_Chapter.html)

 I need IOS 12.4(2)T if I want to use all the available features. What
 is the cheapest cisco-device with at least two or better four fast
 ethernet ports running IOS 12.4(2)T to evaluate, if configuring NAT-PT
 is a solution for my problem ?

 greetings and thanks for help,


Hello Andreas,

In general performance of NAT64 is not really high. I remember on Cisco
2801 ~4Mbit was all I could get. I used one of the latest 12.4T release, 
12.4(24)T as far as I remember. The smaller reasonable device to play with 
would be Cisco 1841 but it's also available on 870 and 880 platform. Of course 
for the production network I'd check how much traffic it's going to handle (and 
not only in number of TCP sessions that have to be translated but throughput 
itself, because NAT64 is process switched since 12.4(20)T, until that it was 
fast switched).

Regards,
--
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http://ccieplayground.wordpress.com | that you've got no one to pray to
JID: pe...@jabber.org   |   -- (Terry Pratchett, Small Gods)


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Re: [c-nsp] Searching for cheap IPv6 NAT-PT Cisco-device

2011-02-25 Thread Tóth András
According to the Feature Navigator (which we know is not always
accurate), IPv6 is supported in IPBASE only on 7200 and 7300 routers
and Catalyst 3560/3750, CBS3k blade switches and 6500 Sup32 switches.

On 2811 routers with 12.4T, IPv6 is available in IP Voice, SP
Services, Advanced IP Services, Enterprise Services and Advanced
Enterprise Services.

Andras


On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Jeff Wojciechowski
jeff.wojciechow...@midlandpaper.com wrote:
 Pitor-

 Please forgive my ignorance:

 I am attempting to get familiar with this myself on a 2811 running 12.4(24)T4 
 - but that's IP Base.

 I don't even have the option to assign an IPv6 address to an interface.

 Do you happen to know which flavor image I need?

 Regards,

 -Jeff Wojciechowski


 -Original Message-
 From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net 
 [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Piotr Wojciechowski
 Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 9:00 AM
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Searching for cheap IPv6 NAT-PT Cisco-device

 On 2/25/11 2:17 PM, Andreas Mueller wrote:

     Hello,

 I would like to connect IPv4-only devices like printers to an
 IPv6-only Network and I thought about doing this with NAT-PT on a
 cisco-device. To play around with NAT-PT and do some tests I need a cheap 
 device.
 According to the cisco document Implementing NAT-PT for IPv6
 (http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/ipv6/configuration/guide/ip6-nat_
 trnsln_ps6350_TSD_Products_Configuration_Guide_Chapter.html)

 I need IOS 12.4(2)T if I want to use all the available features. What
 is the cheapest cisco-device with at least two or better four fast
 ethernet ports running IOS 12.4(2)T to evaluate, if configuring NAT-PT
 is a solution for my problem ?

     greetings and thanks for help,


 Hello Andreas,

 In general performance of NAT64 is not really high. I remember on Cisco
 2801 ~4Mbit was all I could get. I used one of the latest 12.4T release, 
 12.4(24)T as far as I remember. The smaller reasonable device to play with 
 would be Cisco 1841 but it's also available on 870 and 880 platform. Of 
 course for the production network I'd check how much traffic it's going to 
 handle (and not only in number of TCP sessions that have to be translated but 
 throughput itself, because NAT64 is process switched since 12.4(20)T, until 
 that it was fast switched).

 Regards,
 --
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 http://ccieplayground.wordpress.com | that you've got no one to pray to
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Re: [c-nsp] Searching for cheap IPv6 NAT-PT Cisco-device

2011-02-25 Thread Jeff Wojciechowski
Thanks!

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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Searching for cheap IPv6 NAT-PT Cisco-device

According to the Feature Navigator (which we know is not always
accurate), IPv6 is supported in IPBASE only on 7200 and 7300 routers
and Catalyst 3560/3750, CBS3k blade switches and 6500 Sup32 switches.

On 2811 routers with 12.4T, IPv6 is available in IP Voice, SP
Services, Advanced IP Services, Enterprise Services and Advanced
Enterprise Services.

Andras


On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Jeff Wojciechowski
jeff.wojciechow...@midlandpaper.com wrote:
 Pitor-

 Please forgive my ignorance:

 I am attempting to get familiar with this myself on a 2811 running 12.4(24)T4 
 - but that's IP Base.

 I don't even have the option to assign an IPv6 address to an interface.

 Do you happen to know which flavor image I need?

 Regards,

 -Jeff Wojciechowski


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 [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Piotr Wojciechowski
 Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 9:00 AM
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Searching for cheap IPv6 NAT-PT Cisco-device

 On 2/25/11 2:17 PM, Andreas Mueller wrote:

 Hello,

 I would like to connect IPv4-only devices like printers to an
 IPv6-only Network and I thought about doing this with NAT-PT on a
 cisco-device. To play around with NAT-PT and do some tests I need a cheap 
 device.
 According to the cisco document Implementing NAT-PT for IPv6
 (http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/ipv6/configuration/guide/ip6-nat_
 trnsln_ps6350_TSD_Products_Configuration_Guide_Chapter.html)

 I need IOS 12.4(2)T if I want to use all the available features. What
 is the cheapest cisco-device with at least two or better four fast
 ethernet ports running IOS 12.4(2)T to evaluate, if configuring NAT-PT
 is a solution for my problem ?

 greetings and thanks for help,


 Hello Andreas,

 In general performance of NAT64 is not really high. I remember on Cisco
 2801 ~4Mbit was all I could get. I used one of the latest 12.4T release, 
 12.4(24)T as far as I remember. The smaller reasonable device to play with 
 would be Cisco 1841 but it's also available on 870 and 880 platform. Of 
 course for the production network I'd check how much traffic it's going to 
 handle (and not only in number of TCP sessions that have to be translated but 
 throughput itself, because NAT64 is process switched since 12.4(20)T, until 
 that it was fast switched).

 Regards,
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