Re: [c-nsp] Strange problem with Cat6500 freeze

2010-12-14 Thread Holemans Wim
Not exactly the same but we had an 'automatic' reboot on a Sup720 and Sup32 
during a broadcast storm after upgrading tot SXI4a. Before the upgrade the 
machine kept running (unresponsive but running) until the cause of the 
broadcast storm was removed.
Something seems to have changed in SXI4a 

Wim Holemans
  

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Sent: maandag 13 december 2010 19:49
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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Strange problem with Cat6500 freeze

Hi

We har the exact same problem with 2 6503E/Sup32 routers  after upgrading to 
SXI4a.
We downgraded to SXI3, and the problem went away.
Maybe it's a SXI4a 'feature'.

-Jens


Hi

I have network where core-devices are Cisco Catalyst 6506-E with
Sup32/PFC3B. I last month We had two times problem. One time first 6500
'freezes' and second time second 6500 'freezes' Freezes means machine was
powered up, alarm was present (diode on supervisor), console wasn't
responding at all, freeze 6500 created a lot of loops on all VLANs inside
network (%SW_MATM-4-MACFLAP_NOTIF: Host .. in vlan XX is
flapping between port XX and port XX), all ports connected to 'freeze' 6500
was UP, LACP for PortChannels went down. Hard reboot (power off + power on)
helps both times. There wasn.t any crashdump in
flash/bootflash/sup-bootdisk/disk. Most problem was caused by loop created
by freeze 6500 - as all network was overloaded. How I could prevent these
issue in future ? Maybe storm-control for broadcasts ? Did anybody
occurred similar problem with 6500 ? After investigate both freezes was
probably caused by radom disabled/enabled NetFlow ('ip flow ingress') on few
SVIs.

Some facts more about both 6500 configurations:
- Both running 12.2(33)SXI4a IOS. Upgrade was done 1 month ago.
- Before machines was running 12.2(33)SXH4 never occurred similar problem
- eBGP (230k prefixes), 3-4 full table BGP peers + iBGP (20 peers rr-clients)
- IS-IS
- A little MLS QOS (policing) - 1-2 service-polcies on SVIs
- Control Plane Policing implemented
- Sometimes netflow v5 exporting from SVI
- Load around 40% (show catalyst6000) + 1.5Mpps (sh platf hardw capa pfc)
- Dual PSs
- Only ports GE on Sup-32 heavy used
- WS-X6408A-GBIC linecards but used only 1-2 ports with a little load
(~50-200Mb)
- ~300 VLANs
- ~50 SVIs

Robert
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Re: [c-nsp] Strange problem with Cat6500 freeze

2010-12-14 Thread Robert Hass
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Holemans Wim wim.holem...@ua.ac.be wrote:
 Not exactly the same but we had an 'automatic' reboot on a Sup720 and Sup32 
 during a broadcast storm after upgrading tot SXI4a. Before the upgrade the 
 machine kept running (unresponsive but running) until the cause of the 
 broadcast storm was removed.
 Something seems to have changed in SXI4a

We decided to go back to SXH release. But I'm sure that SXH4 is pretty
stable in my experience. But good choice will be if we go to SXH8
release as some bugs was resolved from SXH4 release time. Can anyone
confirm stability Sup32 config with SXH8 IOS ?

Robert
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Re: [c-nsp] Strange problem with Cat6500 freeze

2010-12-14 Thread Daniel Holme
On 14 December 2010 11:45, Robert Hass robh...@gmail.com wrote:
 We decided to go back to SXH release. But I'm sure that SXH4 is pretty
 stable in my experience. But good choice will be if we go to SXH8
 release as some bugs was resolved from SXH4 release time. Can anyone
 confirm stability Sup32 config with SXH8 IOS ?

Not quite, but for what it's worth, I can confirm SXH8 has been rock
solid for us on both 3B/3BXL. I decided to chose it over SXI because
we didn't need the VSS/SPA/6716 support which is mostly where SXI
differs from SXH hardware-wise.

-- 
Daniel Holme
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[c-nsp] Strange problem with Cat6500 freeze

2010-12-13 Thread Robert Hass
Hi

I have network where core-devices are Cisco Catalyst 6506-E with
Sup32/PFC3B. I last month We had two times problem. One time first 6500
'freezes' and second time second 6500 'freezes' Freezes means machine was
powered up, alarm was present (diode on supervisor), console wasn't
responding at all, freeze 6500 created a lot of loops on all VLANs inside
network (%SW_MATM-4-MACFLAP_NOTIF: Host .. in vlan XX is
flapping between port XX and port XX), all ports connected to 'freeze' 6500
was UP, LACP for PortChannels went down. Hard reboot (power off + power on)
helps both times. There wasn.t any crashdump in
flash/bootflash/sup-bootdisk/disk. Most problem was caused by loop created
by freeze 6500 - as all network was overloaded. How I could prevent these
issue in future ? Maybe storm-control for broadcasts ? Did anybody
occurred similar problem with 6500 ? After investigate both freezes was
probably caused by radom disabled/enabled NetFlow ('ip flow ingress') on few
SVIs.

Some facts more about both 6500 configurations:
- Both running 12.2(33)SXI4a IOS. Upgrade was done 1 month ago.
- Before machines was running 12.2(33)SXH4 never occurred similar problem
- eBGP (230k prefixes), 3-4 full table BGP peers + iBGP (20 peers rr-clients)
- IS-IS
- A little MLS QOS (policing) - 1-2 service-polcies on SVIs
- Control Plane Policing implemented
- Sometimes netflow v5 exporting from SVI
- Load around 40% (show catalyst6000) + 1.5Mpps (sh platf hardw capa pfc)
- Dual PSs
- Only ports GE on Sup-32 heavy used
- WS-X6408A-GBIC linecards but used only 1-2 ports with a little load
(~50-200Mb)
- ~300 VLANs
- ~50 SVIs

Robert
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Re: [c-nsp] Strange problem with Cat6500 freeze

2010-12-13 Thread Jens S Andersen
Hi

We har the exact same problem with 2 6503E/Sup32 routers  after upgrading to 
SXI4a.
We downgraded to SXI3, and the problem went away.
Maybe it's a SXI4a 'feature'.

-Jens


Hi

I have network where core-devices are Cisco Catalyst 6506-E with
Sup32/PFC3B. I last month We had two times problem. One time first 6500
'freezes' and second time second 6500 'freezes' Freezes means machine was
powered up, alarm was present (diode on supervisor), console wasn't
responding at all, freeze 6500 created a lot of loops on all VLANs inside
network (%SW_MATM-4-MACFLAP_NOTIF: Host .. in vlan XX is
flapping between port XX and port XX), all ports connected to 'freeze' 6500
was UP, LACP for PortChannels went down. Hard reboot (power off + power on)
helps both times. There wasn.t any crashdump in
flash/bootflash/sup-bootdisk/disk. Most problem was caused by loop created
by freeze 6500 - as all network was overloaded. How I could prevent these
issue in future ? Maybe storm-control for broadcasts ? Did anybody
occurred similar problem with 6500 ? After investigate both freezes was
probably caused by radom disabled/enabled NetFlow ('ip flow ingress') on few
SVIs.

Some facts more about both 6500 configurations:
- Both running 12.2(33)SXI4a IOS. Upgrade was done 1 month ago.
- Before machines was running 12.2(33)SXH4 never occurred similar problem
- eBGP (230k prefixes), 3-4 full table BGP peers + iBGP (20 peers rr-clients)
- IS-IS
- A little MLS QOS (policing) - 1-2 service-polcies on SVIs
- Control Plane Policing implemented
- Sometimes netflow v5 exporting from SVI
- Load around 40% (show catalyst6000) + 1.5Mpps (sh platf hardw capa pfc)
- Dual PSs
- Only ports GE on Sup-32 heavy used
- WS-X6408A-GBIC linecards but used only 1-2 ports with a little load
(~50-200Mb)
- ~300 VLANs
- ~50 SVIs

Robert
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