[c-nsp] USB to Serial Converter recommendation
Hello List, Someone once told me that there is no such thing as dummy question so I am going to ask. Could anyone recommend a USB to Serial Converter that : - is compatible Mac OS X, - is compatible with minicom (or else), *- knows how to send breaks (the must have feature),* I have been stuck with this model that doesn't know how to end breaks, useless : http://www.trendnet.com/products/proddetail.asp?prod=150_TU-S9cat=49 I have been googling around but manufacturers documentations are very detailed about their products' capabilities. Thanks for your feedbacks. Cheers. Y. -- Youssef BENGELLOUN-ZAHR …… Ingénieur Réseaux et Télécoms Technopole de l'Aube en Champagne - BP 601 - 10901 TROYES Cedex 9 Agence Paris : 6, rue Charles Floquet - 92120 MONTROUGE Tel +33 (0) 825 000 720 Tel. direct +33 (0) 1 77 35 59 14 Tel. portable +33 (0) 6 22 42 63 80 Emaily...@720.fr …….www.720.fr ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] USB to Serial Converter recommendation
On 4/21/10 1:15 AM, Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr wrote: Could anyone recommend a USB to Serial Converter that : - is compatible Mac OS X, - is compatible with minicom (or else), *- knows how to send breaks (the must have feature),* I use the Keyspan USA-19HS, does all of the above quite well, it just works. No complaints. -- Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - j...@impulse.net Impulse Internet Service - http://www.impulse.net/ Your local telephone and internet company - 805 884-6323 - WB6RDV ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] USB to Serial Converter recommendation
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr yous...@720.fr wrote: Someone once told me that there is no such thing as dummy question so I am going to ask. Could anyone recommend a USB to Serial Converter that : - is compatible Mac OS X, http://osx-pl2303.sourceforge.net/ - is compatible with minicom (or else), *- knows how to send breaks (the must have feature),* http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2006/11/msg00477.html I would recommend ATEN UC232A (http://www.aten-usa.com/?productcat=795Item=UC232A), I have used it every day without a problem for the last 5 years. Best regards -- Aleksandar Topuzović ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] USB to Serial Converter recommendation
Hi, On 4/21/10 1:15 AM, Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr wrote: Could anyone recommend a USB to Serial Converter that : - is compatible Mac OS X, - is compatible with minicom (or else), *- knows how to send breaks (the must have feature),* I use the Keyspan USA-19HS, does all of the above quite well, it just works. No complaints. same here. only small gotcha - doest seem to work properly if OSX is running in 64bit mode native (either by manually setting, or holding down '6' when booting up. fix? run in 32bit mode currently. alan ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] USB to Serial Converter recommendation
On Apr 21, 2010, at 3:37 AM, Jay Hennigan wrote: I use the Keyspan USA-19HS, does all of the above quite well, it just works. No complaints. +1 for the USA-19HS. Had mine about 4 years now, and it just keeps working despite rattling around in my bag all that time. --Chris ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] USB to Serial Converter recommendation
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 10:15 +0200, Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr wrote: Could anyone recommend a USB to Serial Converter that : - is compatible Mac OS X, - is compatible with minicom (or else), *- knows how to send breaks (the must have feature),* I have been stuck with this model that doesn't know how to end breaks, useless : http://www.trendnet.com/products/proddetail.asp?prod=150_TU-S9cat=49 I have been googling around but manufacturers documentations are very detailed about their products' capabilities. According to some quick googling it uses the PL2303 chip. We use those a lot (others brands though) on Linux. We can send breaks through minicom without problems. (Just tested on a 828.) We seem to have problems making the small Catalyst switches understand breaks though (3560/3750). Could that be related to your problem? -- Peter ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] USB to Serial Converter recommendation
Hello all! does anyone have experiance with something like this: http://www.microdirect.co.uk/Home/Product/17745?source=googleps I think this could be cool - if it works fine :-) On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Zisko zisko@gmail.com wrote: Hello all! does anyone have experiance with something like this: http://www.microdirect.co.uk/Home/Product/17745?source=googleps I think this could be cool - if it works fine :-) On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr yous...@720.frwrote: Hello List, Someone once told me that there is no such thing as dummy question so I am going to ask. Could anyone recommend a USB to Serial Converter that : - is compatible Mac OS X, - is compatible with minicom (or else), *- knows how to send breaks (the must have feature),* I have been stuck with this model that doesn't know how to end breaks, useless : http://www.trendnet.com/products/proddetail.asp?prod=150_TU-S9cat=49 I have been googling around but manufacturers documentations are very detailed about their products' capabilities. Thanks for your feedbacks. Cheers. Y. -- Youssef BENGELLOUN-ZAHR …… Ingénieur Réseaux et Télécoms Technopole de l'Aube en Champagne - BP 601 - 10901 TROYES Cedex 9 Agence Paris : 6, rue Charles Floquet - 92120 MONTROUGE Tel +33 (0) 825 000 720 Tel. direct +33 (0) 1 77 35 59 14 Tel. portable +33 (0) 6 22 42 63 80 Emaily...@720.fr …….www.720.fr ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] USB to Serial Converter recommendation
when would you send a break to a 3560/3750? to break in you hold the mode button on boot. On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Peter Rathlev pe...@rathlev.dk wrote: On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 10:15 +0200, Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr wrote: Could anyone recommend a USB to Serial Converter that : - is compatible Mac OS X, - is compatible with minicom (or else), *- knows how to send breaks (the must have feature),* I have been stuck with this model that doesn't know how to end breaks, useless : http://www.trendnet.com/products/proddetail.asp?prod=150_TU-S9cat=49 I have been googling around but manufacturers documentations are very detailed about their products' capabilities. According to some quick googling it uses the PL2303 chip. We use those a lot (others brands though) on Linux. We can send breaks through minicom without problems. (Just tested on a 828.) We seem to have problems making the small Catalyst switches understand breaks though (3560/3750). Could that be related to your problem? -- Peter ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] USB to Serial Converter recommendation
Hello, Looks like the keyspan is a great adapater. Does it ship with drivers or is it plug-and-play for Mac OS X ? Thanks. Y. 2010/4/21 Chris Boyd cb...@gizmopartners.com On Apr 21, 2010, at 3:37 AM, Jay Hennigan wrote: I use the Keyspan USA-19HS, does all of the above quite well, it just works. No complaints. +1 for the USA-19HS. Had mine about 4 years now, and it just keeps working despite rattling around in my bag all that time. --Chris ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ -- Youssef BENGELLOUN-ZAHR …… Ingénieur Réseaux et Télécoms Technopole de l'Aube en Champagne - BP 601 - 10901 TROYES Cedex 9 Agence Paris : 6, rue Charles Floquet - 92120 MONTROUGE Tel +33 (0) 825 000 720 Tel. direct +33 (0) 1 77 35 59 14 Tel. portable +33 (0) 6 22 42 63 80 Emaily...@720.fr …….www.720.fr ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] USB to Serial Converter recommendation
Hi, On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 11:12:43AM +0200, Peter Rathlev wrote: We seem to have problems making the small Catalyst switches understand breaks though (3560/3750). Could that be related to your problem? Some of the more recent switches don't want a break on the console, but pressing of the front side button at the right moment in time. gert -- USENET is *not* the non-clickable part of WWW! //www.muc.de/~gert/ Gert Doering - Munich, Germany g...@greenie.muc.de fax: +49-89-35655025g...@net.informatik.tu-muenchen.de pgpIBT7EEe7rj.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] USB to Serial Converter recommendation
On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:32 AM, Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr wrote: Looks like the keyspan is a great adapater. Does it ship with drivers or is it plug-and-play for Mac OS X ? It does require a driver--I've been using the one that came with mine. Looks like there's a new one for 10.6: http://www.tripplite.com/shared/software/Driver/Mac-OS-10-6-v26b3-driver.zip --Chris ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] USB to Serial Converter recommendation
On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:38 AM, Chris Boyd wrote: It does require a driver--I've been using the one that came with mine. Looks like there's a new one for 10.6: http://www.tripplite.com/shared/software/Driver/Mac-OS-10-6-v26b3-driver.zip And to follow up my own post, the release notes say that this version provides 64 bit support. --Chris ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] USB to Serial Converter recommendation
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 19:30 +1000, joshua atterbury wrote: when would you send a break to a 3560/3750? to break in you hold the mode button on boot. That might sometimes be a problem if the switch is in some far away place with only a console cable in place. :-) -- Peter ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] USB to Serial Converter recommendation
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010, Chris Boyd wrote: +1 for the USA-19HS. Had mine about 4 years now, and it just keeps working despite rattling around in my bag all that time. Agreed, same. I prefer screen over minicom though - 'screen /dev/tty.KeySeriail1' and it just works. Rgds, - I. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] USB to Serial Converter recommendation
On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:37 AM, Jay Hennigan wrote: I use the Keyspan USA-19HS, does all of the above quite well, it just works. No complaints. +1. I use my Keyspan between my MacBookPro and my Linux based netbook (both with minicom) and it just works.. -Patrick -- Patrick Muldoon Network/Software Engineer INOC (http://www.inoc.net) PGPKEY (http://www.inoc.net/~doon) Key ID: 0x370D752C Disclaimer: Any errors in spelling, tact, or fact are transmission errors. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] USB to Serial Converter recommendation
On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:09 AM, Alan Buxey wrote: same here. only small gotcha - doest seem to work properly if OSX is running in 64bit mode native (either by manually setting, or holding down '6' when booting up. fix? run in 32bit mode currently. works fine here, native 64 bit USA28Xdriver::init 2.6b4 Aug 12 2009 10:35:37 (whichInstance 0) USA28Xdriver::attach (whichInstance 0 temporaryInstance 1) USA28Xdriver::probe (whichInstance 0) USA28Xdriver::probe vendor 6cd product 121 USA28Xdriver::detach (whichInstance 0 temporaryInstance 1) USA28Xdriver::attach (whichInstance 0 temporaryInstance 1) USA28Xdriver::start (whichInstance 0) [~] uname -mpv Darwin Kernel Version 10.3.0: Fri Feb 26 11:57:13 PST 2010; root:xnu-1504.3.12~1/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64 i386 [~] sysctl kern.bootargs kern.bootargs: arch=x86_64 -Patrick -- Patrick Muldoon Network/Software Engineer INOC (http://www.inoc.net) PGPKEY (http://www.inoc.net/~doon) Key ID: 0x370D752C YOUR PC's broken and I'VE got a problem? -- The BOFH Slogan ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] USB to Serial Converter recommendation
I didn't know screen can be used in such way, thanks for the idea. Anyway, minicom is configurable, but for a GUI environment I prefer using GTKTerm which has much more easy ways to configure stuff. I'd second the Keyspan or ATen, I've worked with both of them with no problems, for Windows and Mac they need a driver, on linux they work just out of the box. And by the way, no matter the brand, they all seem to use the same Prolific PL2303 chip, no need to reinvent the wheel... Ziv -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ian Henderson Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 12:28 PM To: Chris Boyd Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] USB to Serial Converter recommendation On Wed, 21 Apr 2010, Chris Boyd wrote: +1 for the USA-19HS. Had mine about 4 years now, and it just keeps working despite rattling around in my bag all that time. Agreed, same. I prefer screen over minicom though - 'screen /dev/tty.KeySeriail1' and it just works. Rgds, - I. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] USB to Serial Converter recommendation
Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr yous...@720.fr wrote: Someone once told me that there is no such thing as dummy question so I am going to ask. Could anyone recommend a USB to Serial Converter that : - is compatible Mac OS X, - is compatible with minicom (or else), *- knows how to send breaks (the must have feature),* I have been stuck with this model that doesn't know how to end breaks, useless : http://www.trendnet.com/products/proddetail.asp?prod=150_TU-S9cat=49 I have been googling around but manufacturers documentations are very detailed about their products' capabilities. Thanks for your feedbacks. FTDI make some *very* nice cables (supports break): http://apple.clickandbuild.com/cnb/shop/ftdichip?productID=54op=catalogue-product_info-nullprodCategoryID=84 The TTL 3.3V 3.5mm 'headphone' plug ones are also nice for embedded projects, but that's getting off topic :) Cheers -- Alexander Clouter .sigmonster says: Anything free is worth what you pay for it. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] USB to Serial Converter recommendation
- is compatible Mac OS X, *- knows how to send breaks (the must have feature),* On OSX there's a great terminal emulator called ZTerm, written by Dave Alverson. It supports a nifty feature to send BREAK even when your hardware or drivers don't support it. BREAK amounts to holding the TX pin high for longer than the duration of a character. It's not a character. It's more like a framing error. High voltage on the TX pin is a binary zero. To send the unsupported BREAK, ZTerm briefly the baud rate, then sends the ascii NUL character (binary zero). The string of zero bits at (say) 300 baud looks exactly like BREAK to your 9600 baud router console. Works great! As for choosing a USB dongle, I'm partial to anything with a PL2303 chip inside. These are well supported on lots of platforms, and can usually be had for almost nothing: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=350320547894 /chris ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] USB to Serial Converter recommendation
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010, Ziv Leyes wrote: And by the way, no matter the brand, they all seem to use the same Prolific PL2303 chip, no need to reinvent the wheel... Ziv I have seen and used others...but the last time I went looking for several, they all seemed to use the PL2303 chip...and these will send a break. If you have one that doesn't, you can probably still use the baud rate trick to send something resembling a break. Assuming you're talking to a cisco device at 9600bps, set the baud rate in your term program to 1200, hit space a few times, then change back to 9600. -- Jon Lewis | I route Senior Network Engineer | therefore you are Atlantic Net| _ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] USB to Serial Converter recommendation
I would recommend ATEN UC232A (http://www.aten-usa.com/?productcat=795Item=UC232A), I have used it every day without a problem for the last 5 years. IOGear rebadges this as the GUC-232A. Works very well. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] USB to Serial Converter recommendation
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:15:43AM +0200, Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr wrote: Hello List, Someone once told me that there is no such thing as dummy question so I am going to ask. Could anyone recommend a USB to Serial Converter that : - is compatible Mac OS X, - is compatible with minicom (or else), *- knows how to send breaks (the must have feature),* http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000II9OR4/ref=wms_ohs_product Is my favorite by far, it uses generic USB profiles so it works out of the box with every OS I've tried, no drivers required, no grief on x64 OS, etc. Never leave home without one. :) -- Richard A Steenbergen r...@e-gerbil.net http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC) ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] USB to Serial Converter recommendation
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 09:14:37AM -0400, Jon Lewis wrote: On Wed, 21 Apr 2010, Ziv Leyes wrote: And by the way, no matter the brand, they all seem to use the same Prolific PL2303 chip, no need to reinvent the wheel... Ziv I have seen and used others...but the last time I went looking for several, they all seemed to use the PL2303 chip...and these will send a break. If you have one that doesn't, you can probably still use the baud rate trick to send something resembling a break. Assuming you're talking to a cisco device at 9600bps, set the baud rate in your term program to 1200, hit space a few times, then change back to 9600. The original PL2303 driver for OSX did NOT support sending break. They updated it at some point years past the original release. The opensource driver also supported break just fine. Perhaps the OP's driver disk was including one of the really old versions? (assuming his Trendnet device is really a PL2303 chip). Its not like vendors take care of shipping the latest driver or anything. Even 6-8 year old versions.. +1 on Keyspan as well. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
