Re: [c-nsp] multihoming solution over two different ISP's

2011-08-08 Thread Aftab Siddiqui
Asking for the best solution: Yes its via BGP
provided that you have you own Public IP space and ASN otherwise its not
possible with 2 different ISPs. Adding HWIC-2FE would serve the physical
requirement in your scenario.

m2c

Regards,

Aftab A. Siddiqui


On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Martin T m4rtn...@gmail.com wrote:

 At the moment I have a following setup:

 http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4227/252530.png

 The ISP-A connection is the primary link and the ISP-B connection(over
 WiMAX) is the backup one. In case the primary link fails, I physically
 plug out the fiber-optical converter cable from my Cisco router(Cisco
 1841) and insert the one from WiMAX device. In addition, I reconfigure
 the IP parameters in the router. This is probably the most manual
 multihoming possible :) I'm ready to upgrade my router so it
 supports two Ethernet cables.

 a) Is it somehow possible to automatically switch over to another one
 connection in case the primary one fails. For example ping
 www.google.com over a period of time and in case it doesn't respond,
 automatically switch over to backup connection?

 b) Is it somehow possible to have one static IP address while using
 the services of two different IPSs?


 While I'm afraid the latter is impossible, the first automatic
 switchover should be somehow doable, shouldn't it? As I told, I'm
 ready to invest into new equipment if it's necessary.

 PS I'm aware, that probably the most elegant solution would be a BGP
 sessions with ISP routers over different last-mile technologies. This
 would provide fast failover and I could use one IP address.


 What are the best practices for multihome connection over two different
 ISP's?


 regards,
 martin
 ___
 cisco-nsp mailing list  cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
 archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/

___
cisco-nsp mailing list  cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/


Re: [c-nsp] multihoming solution over two different ISP's

2011-08-08 Thread Martin T
Aftab,
HWIC-2FE was exactly the card I was looking as well. As I don't have a
public IP address space and ASN, what options are left there in order
to achieve automatic failover?


regards,
martin


2011/8/8 Aftab Siddiqui aftab.siddi...@gmail.com:
 Asking for the best solution: Yes its via BGP
 provided that you have you own Public IP space and ASN otherwise its not
 possible with 2 different ISPs. Adding HWIC-2FE would serve the physical
 requirement in your scenario.

 m2c
 Regards,

 Aftab A. Siddiqui


 On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Martin T m4rtn...@gmail.com wrote:

 At the moment I have a following setup:

 http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4227/252530.png

 The ISP-A connection is the primary link and the ISP-B connection(over
 WiMAX) is the backup one. In case the primary link fails, I physically
 plug out the fiber-optical converter cable from my Cisco router(Cisco
 1841) and insert the one from WiMAX device. In addition, I reconfigure
 the IP parameters in the router. This is probably the most manual
 multihoming possible :) I'm ready to upgrade my router so it
 supports two Ethernet cables.

 a) Is it somehow possible to automatically switch over to another one
 connection in case the primary one fails. For example ping
 www.google.com over a period of time and in case it doesn't respond,
 automatically switch over to backup connection?

 b) Is it somehow possible to have one static IP address while using
 the services of two different IPSs?


 While I'm afraid the latter is impossible, the first automatic
 switchover should be somehow doable, shouldn't it? As I told, I'm
 ready to invest into new equipment if it's necessary.

 PS I'm aware, that probably the most elegant solution would be a BGP
 sessions with ISP routers over different last-mile technologies. This
 would provide fast failover and I could use one IP address.


 What are the best practices for multihome connection over two different
 ISP's?


 regards,
 martin
 ___
 cisco-nsp mailing list  cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
 archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/



___
cisco-nsp mailing list  cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/


Re: [c-nsp] multihoming solution over two different ISP's

2011-08-08 Thread Aftab Siddiqui
Stick with multihoming with Single ISP. i.e. get 2 last miles with the ISP
and a public pool to advertise and manage the auto failover via BGP.

Secondly you can achieve multihoming with 2 ISP using IP SLA, though it is
not a best practice but surely workable. Take a look at the following link.

http://www.nil.com/ipcorner/SmallSiteMultiHoming/

Regards,

Aftab A. Siddiqui


On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Martin T m4rtn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Aftab,
 HWIC-2FE was exactly the card I was looking as well. As I don't have a
 public IP address space and ASN, what options are left there in order
 to achieve automatic failover?


 regards,
 martin


 2011/8/8 Aftab Siddiqui aftab.siddi...@gmail.com:
  Asking for the best solution: Yes its via BGP
  provided that you have you own Public IP space and ASN otherwise its not
  possible with 2 different ISPs. Adding HWIC-2FE would serve the physical
  requirement in your scenario.
 
  m2c
  Regards,
 
  Aftab A. Siddiqui
 
 
  On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Martin T m4rtn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  At the moment I have a following setup:
 
  http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4227/252530.png
 
  The ISP-A connection is the primary link and the ISP-B connection(over
  WiMAX) is the backup one. In case the primary link fails, I physically
  plug out the fiber-optical converter cable from my Cisco router(Cisco
  1841) and insert the one from WiMAX device. In addition, I reconfigure
  the IP parameters in the router. This is probably the most manual
  multihoming possible :) I'm ready to upgrade my router so it
  supports two Ethernet cables.
 
  a) Is it somehow possible to automatically switch over to another one
  connection in case the primary one fails. For example ping
  www.google.com over a period of time and in case it doesn't respond,
  automatically switch over to backup connection?
 
  b) Is it somehow possible to have one static IP address while using
  the services of two different IPSs?
 
 
  While I'm afraid the latter is impossible, the first automatic
  switchover should be somehow doable, shouldn't it? As I told, I'm
  ready to invest into new equipment if it's necessary.
 
  PS I'm aware, that probably the most elegant solution would be a BGP
  sessions with ISP routers over different last-mile technologies. This
  would provide fast failover and I could use one IP address.
 
 
  What are the best practices for multihome connection over two different
  ISP's?
 
 
  regards,
  martin
  ___
  cisco-nsp mailing list  cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
  https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
  archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
 
 

___
cisco-nsp mailing list  cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/


Re: [c-nsp] multihoming solution over two different ISP's

2011-08-08 Thread Jon Lewis

On Mon, 8 Aug 2011, Aftab Siddiqui wrote:


Asking for the best solution: Yes its via BGP
provided that you have you own Public IP space and ASN otherwise its not
possible with 2 different ISPs. Adding HWIC-2FE would serve the physical
requirement in your scenario.


BGP is the best way to go, and you certainly can multihome with BGP using 
IP space assigned by one of the ISPs.  Lots of AS's do that.


More below...


On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Martin T m4rtn...@gmail.com wrote:


At the moment I have a following setup:

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4227/252530.png

a) Is it somehow possible to automatically switch over to another one
connection in case the primary one fails. For example ping
www.google.com over a period of time and in case it doesn't respond,
automatically switch over to backup connection?

b) Is it somehow possible to have one static IP address while using
the services of two different IPSs?


You can do poor man's multihoming using 2 ISPs (no BGP) by doing 
reachability testing of something or things out on the internet, and 
changing your default gateway when you think the primary connection has 
failed.  You'll have to use NAT/PAT such that when you're going out 
through ISP-A, your outside NAT address is an ISP-A address, and when 
you're going out through ISP-B, your outside NAT address is an ISP-B 
address.  With a bit of policy routing, you can even keep both the ISP-A 
and ISP-B connections up and usable simultaneously.


--
 Jon Lewis, MCP :)   |  I route
 Senior Network Engineer |  therefore you are
 Atlantic Net|
_ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_
___
cisco-nsp mailing list  cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/


Re: [c-nsp] multihoming solution over two different ISP's

2011-08-08 Thread Joe Maimon

Get a 2950 or even a 3524XL, use vlans and subinterfaces.

Use BGP if available.

Otherwise, if you are already using NAT, then this should work fine.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_3/12_3x/12_3xe/feature/guide/dbackupx.html

https://supportforums.cisco.com/docs/DOC-8313

If you need redundancy and incoming IP reachability, and you cannot get 
BGP/Public IP addresses from your existing ISP's, you can obtain it from 
other ISP's, even if all they can offer you is a tunnel.


Joe

Martin T wrote:

At the moment I have a following setup:

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4227/252530.png

The ISP-A connection is the primary link and the ISP-B connection(over
WiMAX) is the backup one. In case the primary link fails, I physically
plug out the fiber-optical converter cable from my Cisco router(Cisco
1841) and insert the one from WiMAX device. In addition, I reconfigure
the IP parameters in the router. This is probably the most manual
multihoming possible :) I'm ready to upgrade my router so it
supports two Ethernet cables.

a) Is it somehow possible to automatically switch over to another one
connection in case the primary one fails. For example ping
www.google.com over a period of time and in case it doesn't respond,
automatically switch over to backup connection?

b) Is it somehow possible to have one static IP address while using
the services of two different IPSs?


While I'm afraid the latter is impossible, the first automatic
switchover should be somehow doable, shouldn't it? As I told, I'm
ready to invest into new equipment if it's necessary.

PS I'm aware, that probably the most elegant solution would be a BGP
sessions with ISP routers over different last-mile technologies. This
would provide fast failover and I could use one IP address.


What are the best practices for multihome connection over two different ISP's?


regards,
martin
___
cisco-nsp mailing list  cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/



___
cisco-nsp mailing list  cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/