Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5

2019-01-18 Thread Dave Goodwin 
If you want to bring your own IPs to AWS instances instead of using their
Elastic IPs, you can do that now from what I understand:
https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2018/10/announcing-the-general-availability-of-bring-your-own-ip-for-amazon-virtual-private-cloud/

I don’t know if that functionality is compatible with VMC-AWS or not. Also,
I’d think just like Charles suggested that you could use your own IPs on a
private vSwitch or VM network.

On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 4:04 PM Charles Goldsmith 
wrote:

> Not sure, but let us know once you talk with your AWS / VMware sales team.
>
> If you need one, let me know and I'll put you in touch :)
>
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 3:01 PM Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:
>
>> I wonder if there are additional services you could subscribe to. Front
>> it with VPN/IP extension service so the vSwitch can be configured with any
>> VLAN that the extra layer offers.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>>
>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>>
>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
>> N1G 2W1
>>
>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>>
>>
>>
>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Charles Goldsmith 
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 18, 2019 3:51 PM
>> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi 
>> *Cc:* Matthew Collins ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5
>>
>>
>>
>> From what I understand, you cannot extend your IP, it's IP's assigned
>> from AWS.  At least for public facing.  I'm assuming you can spin up
>> another vswitch on the vsphere side and have private IP's, just like we can
>> locally.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 2:48 PM Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:
>>
>> Hmmm, in actuality, VMware on AWS seems like it will be the best
>> replacement for a physical stack of bare metal servers for temporary use.
>> As long as the IP address space was the same, you could simply shut them
>> down and export after the migration was complete.
>>
>>
>>
>> Side question…
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyone know how that works? Can you extend your IP address space into AWS
>> without much effort?
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>>
>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>>
>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
>> N1G 2W1
>>
>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>>
>>
>>
>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Charles Goldsmith 
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 18, 2019 3:12 PM
>> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi 
>> *Cc:* Matthew Collins ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5
>>
>>
>>
>> If you are one of my customers, I can arrange that.  Do we have a web
>> page where you can just go sign up, no.  But there are services that let
>> you rent bare metal servers.
>>
>>
>>
>> VMware and AWS are teaming up to rent you vsphere on AWS bare metal.
>>
>>
>> On Jan 18, 2019, at 1:45 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:
>>
>> This should be a signal to professional services orgs out there to rent
>> out UCS systems for offline upgrades. :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *-sent from mobile device-*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>>
>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>>
>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
>> N1G 2W1
>>
>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 <519-824-4120;56354> | le...@uoguelph.ca
>>
>>
>>
>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 18, 2019, at 5:24 AM, Matthew Collins 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Agree with Lelio but sometimes parallel upgrade are just not possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’ve done 3 x 10.5 to 11.6 direct upgrade recently any only had one issue
>> that wasn’t directly related to the upgrade. Other than that they have been
>> pretty smooth.
>>
>>
>>
>> In your pre-checks don’t just check DB replication but also CUC and UCCX
>> replication on the respective servers (utils uccx/cuc dbreplication
>> status). Plus check from the pub and sub as on a CUC upgrade recently it
>> kept failing, Turned out CUC replication wasn’t set up correctly. Ran the
>> command from the Pub and it stated everything was good, Ran from the Sub
>> said it was failed. Ended up re-building the CUC Sub. The issue came about
>> from a host name change years back and some of the tables where not updated
>> on the sub.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also double check the memory requirements. As 11.x requires 2 extra gig
>> most of the OVA’s.
>>
>>
>>
>> Upgrade timings going from 10.5 to 11.5/6
>>
>>
>>
>> Memory upgrade where completed prior to upgrades.
>>
>> CUCM Upgrade Pub 90 Mins 7.5k OVA
>> CUCM Upgrade Subs 60 Mins
>> IM&P Upgrade Pub 70 Mi

Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5

2019-01-18 Thread Charles Goldsmith 
Not sure, but let us know once you talk with your AWS / VMware sales team.

If you need one, let me know and I'll put you in touch :)

On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 3:01 PM Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:

> I wonder if there are additional services you could subscribe to. Front it
> with VPN/IP extension service so the vSwitch can be configured with any
> VLAN that the extra layer offers.
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
>
> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>
> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>
> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
> N1G 2W1
>
> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>
>
>
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>
>
>
> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]
>
>
>
> *From:* Charles Goldsmith 
> *Sent:* Friday, January 18, 2019 3:51 PM
> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi 
> *Cc:* Matthew Collins ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5
>
>
>
> From what I understand, you cannot extend your IP, it's IP's assigned from
> AWS.  At least for public facing.  I'm assuming you can spin up another
> vswitch on the vsphere side and have private IP's, just like we can locally.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 2:48 PM Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:
>
> Hmmm, in actuality, VMware on AWS seems like it will be the best
> replacement for a physical stack of bare metal servers for temporary use.
> As long as the IP address space was the same, you could simply shut them
> down and export after the migration was complete.
>
>
>
> Side question…
>
>
>
> Anyone know how that works? Can you extend your IP address space into AWS
> without much effort?
>
>
>
> ---
>
> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>
> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>
> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
> N1G 2W1
>
> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>
>
>
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>
>
>
> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]
>
>
>
> *From:* Charles Goldsmith 
> *Sent:* Friday, January 18, 2019 3:12 PM
> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi 
> *Cc:* Matthew Collins ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5
>
>
>
> If you are one of my customers, I can arrange that.  Do we have a web page
> where you can just go sign up, no.  But there are services that let you
> rent bare metal servers.
>
>
>
> VMware and AWS are teaming up to rent you vsphere on AWS bare metal.
>
>
> On Jan 18, 2019, at 1:45 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:
>
> This should be a signal to professional services orgs out there to rent
> out UCS systems for offline upgrades. :)
>
>
>
>
>
> *-sent from mobile device-*
>
>
>
> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>
> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>
> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
> N1G 2W1
>
> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 <519-824-4120;56354> | le...@uoguelph.ca
>
>
>
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 18, 2019, at 5:24 AM, Matthew Collins  wrote:
>
> Agree with Lelio but sometimes parallel upgrade are just not possible.
>
>
>
> I’ve done 3 x 10.5 to 11.6 direct upgrade recently any only had one issue
> that wasn’t directly related to the upgrade. Other than that they have been
> pretty smooth.
>
>
>
> In your pre-checks don’t just check DB replication but also CUC and UCCX
> replication on the respective servers (utils uccx/cuc dbreplication
> status). Plus check from the pub and sub as on a CUC upgrade recently it
> kept failing, Turned out CUC replication wasn’t set up correctly. Ran the
> command from the Pub and it stated everything was good, Ran from the Sub
> said it was failed. Ended up re-building the CUC Sub. The issue came about
> from a host name change years back and some of the tables where not updated
> on the sub.
>
>
>
> Also double check the memory requirements. As 11.x requires 2 extra gig
> most of the OVA’s.
>
>
>
> Upgrade timings going from 10.5 to 11.5/6
>
>
>
> Memory upgrade where completed prior to upgrades.
>
> CUCM Upgrade Pub 90 Mins 7.5k OVA
> CUCM Upgrade Subs 60 Mins
> IM&P Upgrade Pub 70 Mins 5K OVA
> IM&P Upgrade Sub 50 Mins
>
> CUCM Switch Versions Pub 40 Mins
> CUCM Switch Versions Subs 30 Mins
> IM&P Switch Versions Pub 30 Mins
> IM&P Switch Versions Sub 30 Mins
>
> UCCX Upgrade Pub 80 Mins – 300 Agent OVA
> UCCX Upgrade Sub 60 Mins
> UCCX Switch Versions Pub 45 Mins
> UCCX Switch Versions Sub 30 Mins
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Matthew Collins
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* cisco-voip  *On Behalf Of *Lelio
> Fulgenzi
> *Sent:* 17 January 2019 16:37
> *To:* SK ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5
>
>
>
>
>
> I will say one thing, if you have the opportunity to duplicate the
> environment in an off-line network and perform t

Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5

2019-01-18 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi 
I wonder if there are additional services you could subscribe to. Front it with 
VPN/IP extension service so the vSwitch can be configured with any VLAN that 
the extra layer offers.


---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook

[University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]

From: Charles Goldsmith 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 3:51 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi 
Cc: Matthew Collins ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5

From what I understand, you cannot extend your IP, it's IP's assigned from AWS. 
 At least for public facing.  I'm assuming you can spin up another vswitch on 
the vsphere side and have private IP's, just like we can locally.

On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 2:48 PM Lelio Fulgenzi 
mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
Hmmm, in actuality, VMware on AWS seems like it will be the best replacement 
for a physical stack of bare metal servers for temporary use. As long as the IP 
address space was the same, you could simply shut them down and export after 
the migration was complete.

Side question…

Anyone know how that works? Can you extend your IP address space into AWS 
without much effort?

---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook

[University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]

From: Charles Goldsmith mailto:wo...@justfamily.org>>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 3:12 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>>
Cc: Matthew Collins mailto:mcoll...@block.co.uk>>; 
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5

If you are one of my customers, I can arrange that.  Do we have a web page 
where you can just go sign up, no.  But there are services that let you rent 
bare metal servers.

VMware and AWS are teaming up to rent you vsphere on AWS bare metal.

On Jan 18, 2019, at 1:45 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi 
mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
This should be a signal to professional services orgs out there to rent out UCS 
systems for offline upgrades. :)


-sent from mobile device-

Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | 
le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook


On Jan 18, 2019, at 5:24 AM, Matthew Collins 
mailto:mcoll...@block.co.uk>> wrote:
Agree with Lelio but sometimes parallel upgrade are just not possible.

I’ve done 3 x 10.5 to 11.6 direct upgrade recently any only had one issue that 
wasn’t directly related to the upgrade. Other than that they have been pretty 
smooth.

In your pre-checks don’t just check DB replication but also CUC and UCCX 
replication on the respective servers (utils uccx/cuc dbreplication status). 
Plus check from the pub and sub as on a CUC upgrade recently it kept failing, 
Turned out CUC replication wasn’t set up correctly. Ran the command from the 
Pub and it stated everything was good, Ran from the Sub said it was failed. 
Ended up re-building the CUC Sub. The issue came about from a host name change 
years back and some of the tables where not updated on the sub.

Also double check the memory requirements. As 11.x requires 2 extra gig most of 
the OVA’s.

Upgrade timings going from 10.5 to 11.5/6

Memory upgrade where completed prior to upgrades.

CUCM Upgrade Pub 90 Mins 7.5k OVA
CUCM Upgrade Subs 60 Mins
IM&P Upgrade Pub 70 Mins 5K OVA
IM&P Upgrade Sub 50 Mins

CUCM Switch Versions Pub 40 Mins
CUCM Switch Versions Subs 30 Mins
IM&P Switch Versions Pub 30 Mins
IM&P Switch Versions Sub 30 Mins

UCCX Upgrade Pub 80 Mins – 300 Agent OVA
UCCX Upgrade Sub 60 Mins
UCCX Switch Versions Pub 45 Mins
UCCX Switch Versions Sub 30 Mins



Regards

Matthew Collins


From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: 17 January 2019 16:37
To: SK mailto:cciecollab2...@gmail.com>>; 
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5


I will say one thing, if you have the opportunity to duplicate the environment 
in an off-line network and perform the upgrades there, then your migration will 
basically be downtime involved with shutting down old servers and turning up 
new serv

Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5

2019-01-18 Thread Charles Goldsmith 
>From what I understand, you cannot extend your IP, it's IP's assigned from
AWS.  At least for public facing.  I'm assuming you can spin up another
vswitch on the vsphere side and have private IP's, just like we can locally.

On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 2:48 PM Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:

> Hmmm, in actuality, VMware on AWS seems like it will be the best
> replacement for a physical stack of bare metal servers for temporary use.
> As long as the IP address space was the same, you could simply shut them
> down and export after the migration was complete.
>
>
>
> Side question…
>
>
>
> Anyone know how that works? Can you extend your IP address space into AWS
> without much effort?
>
>
>
> ---
>
> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>
> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>
> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
> N1G 2W1
>
> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>
>
>
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>
>
>
> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]
>
>
>
> *From:* Charles Goldsmith 
> *Sent:* Friday, January 18, 2019 3:12 PM
> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi 
> *Cc:* Matthew Collins ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5
>
>
>
> If you are one of my customers, I can arrange that.  Do we have a web page
> where you can just go sign up, no.  But there are services that let you
> rent bare metal servers.
>
>
>
> VMware and AWS are teaming up to rent you vsphere on AWS bare metal.
>
>
> On Jan 18, 2019, at 1:45 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:
>
> This should be a signal to professional services orgs out there to rent
> out UCS systems for offline upgrades. :)
>
>
>
>
>
> *-sent from mobile device-*
>
>
>
> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>
> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>
> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
> N1G 2W1
>
> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 <519-824-4120;56354> | le...@uoguelph.ca
>
>
>
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>
>
>
> [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]
>
>
> On Jan 18, 2019, at 5:24 AM, Matthew Collins  wrote:
>
> Agree with Lelio but sometimes parallel upgrade are just not possible.
>
>
>
> I’ve done 3 x 10.5 to 11.6 direct upgrade recently any only had one issue
> that wasn’t directly related to the upgrade. Other than that they have been
> pretty smooth.
>
>
>
> In your pre-checks don’t just check DB replication but also CUC and UCCX
> replication on the respective servers (utils uccx/cuc dbreplication
> status). Plus check from the pub and sub as on a CUC upgrade recently it
> kept failing, Turned out CUC replication wasn’t set up correctly. Ran the
> command from the Pub and it stated everything was good, Ran from the Sub
> said it was failed. Ended up re-building the CUC Sub. The issue came about
> from a host name change years back and some of the tables where not updated
> on the sub.
>
>
>
> Also double check the memory requirements. As 11.x requires 2 extra gig
> most of the OVA’s.
>
>
>
> Upgrade timings going from 10.5 to 11.5/6
>
>
>
> Memory upgrade where completed prior to upgrades.
>
> CUCM Upgrade Pub 90 Mins 7.5k OVA
> CUCM Upgrade Subs 60 Mins
> IM&P Upgrade Pub 70 Mins 5K OVA
> IM&P Upgrade Sub 50 Mins
>
> CUCM Switch Versions Pub 40 Mins
> CUCM Switch Versions Subs 30 Mins
> IM&P Switch Versions Pub 30 Mins
> IM&P Switch Versions Sub 30 Mins
>
> UCCX Upgrade Pub 80 Mins – 300 Agent OVA
> UCCX Upgrade Sub 60 Mins
> UCCX Switch Versions Pub 45 Mins
> UCCX Switch Versions Sub 30 Mins
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Matthew Collins
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* cisco-voip  *On Behalf Of *Lelio
> Fulgenzi
> *Sent:* 17 January 2019 16:37
> *To:* SK ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5
>
>
>
>
>
> I will say one thing, if you have the opportunity to duplicate the
> environment in an off-line network and perform the upgrades there, then
> your migration will basically be downtime involved with shutting down old
> servers and turning up new servers. This is not trivial, by any stretch of
> the imagination. However, once you put some thought into it, I think you’ll
> find this method extremely valuable.
>
>
>
> You work out all the kinks in the offline network and repeat until you are
> satisfied.
>
>
>
> You’ll need a couple of things to make this work, namely, a change freeze
> window and the “pre 8.0” enterprise parameter.
>
>
>
> We’ve done this twice now and it’s worked like a charm.
>
>
>
> I would hate to do upgrades on live systems.
>
>
>
> Lelio
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
>
> *Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.* | Senior Analyst
>
> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>
> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON |
> N1G 2W1
>
> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>
>
>
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS

Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5

2019-01-18 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi 
Hmmm, in actuality, VMware on AWS seems like it will be the best replacement 
for a physical stack of bare metal servers for temporary use. As long as the IP 
address space was the same, you could simply shut them down and export after 
the migration was complete.

Side question…

Anyone know how that works? Can you extend your IP address space into AWS 
without much effort?

---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook

[University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]

From: Charles Goldsmith 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 3:12 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi 
Cc: Matthew Collins ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5

If you are one of my customers, I can arrange that.  Do we have a web page 
where you can just go sign up, no.  But there are services that let you rent 
bare metal servers.

VMware and AWS are teaming up to rent you vsphere on AWS bare metal.

On Jan 18, 2019, at 1:45 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi 
mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
This should be a signal to professional services orgs out there to rent out UCS 
systems for offline upgrades. :)


-sent from mobile device-


Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 
2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | 
le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook

[University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]

On Jan 18, 2019, at 5:24 AM, Matthew Collins 
mailto:mcoll...@block.co.uk>> wrote:
Agree with Lelio but sometimes parallel upgrade are just not possible.

I’ve done 3 x 10.5 to 11.6 direct upgrade recently any only had one issue that 
wasn’t directly related to the upgrade. Other than that they have been pretty 
smooth.

In your pre-checks don’t just check DB replication but also CUC and UCCX 
replication on the respective servers (utils uccx/cuc dbreplication status). 
Plus check from the pub and sub as on a CUC upgrade recently it kept failing, 
Turned out CUC replication wasn’t set up correctly. Ran the command from the 
Pub and it stated everything was good, Ran from the Sub said it was failed. 
Ended up re-building the CUC Sub. The issue came about from a host name change 
years back and some of the tables where not updated on the sub.

Also double check the memory requirements. As 11.x requires 2 extra gig most of 
the OVA’s.

Upgrade timings going from 10.5 to 11.5/6

Memory upgrade where completed prior to upgrades.

CUCM Upgrade Pub 90 Mins 7.5k OVA
CUCM Upgrade Subs 60 Mins
IM&P Upgrade Pub 70 Mins 5K OVA
IM&P Upgrade Sub 50 Mins

CUCM Switch Versions Pub 40 Mins
CUCM Switch Versions Subs 30 Mins
IM&P Switch Versions Pub 30 Mins
IM&P Switch Versions Sub 30 Mins

UCCX Upgrade Pub 80 Mins – 300 Agent OVA
UCCX Upgrade Sub 60 Mins
UCCX Switch Versions Pub 45 Mins
UCCX Switch Versions Sub 30 Mins



Regards

Matthew Collins


From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: 17 January 2019 16:37
To: SK mailto:cciecollab2...@gmail.com>>; 
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5


I will say one thing, if you have the opportunity to duplicate the environment 
in an off-line network and perform the upgrades there, then your migration will 
basically be downtime involved with shutting down old servers and turning up 
new servers. This is not trivial, by any stretch of the imagination. However, 
once you put some thought into it, I think you’ll find this method extremely 
valuable.

You work out all the kinks in the offline network and repeat until you are 
satisfied.

You’ll need a couple of things to make this work, namely, a change freeze 
window and the “pre 8.0” enterprise parameter.

We’ve done this twice now and it’s worked like a charm.

I would hate to do upgrades on live systems.

Lelio


---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook



From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of SK
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 10:48 AM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5

We are planning upgrade for our CUCM - CUC -UCCX platform from 10.5 to 11.5 
so

Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5

2019-01-18 Thread Charles Goldsmith 
If you are one of my customers, I can arrange that.  Do we have a web page 
where you can just go sign up, no.  But there are services that let you rent 
bare metal servers.  

VMware and AWS are teaming up to rent you vsphere on AWS bare metal. 

> On Jan 18, 2019, at 1:45 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:
> 
> This should be a signal to professional services orgs out there to rent out 
> UCS systems for offline upgrades. :)
> 
> 
> 
> -sent from mobile device-
> 
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 
> 2W1
> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>  
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>  
> 
> 
> On Jan 18, 2019, at 5:24 AM, Matthew Collins  wrote:
> 
>> Agree with Lelio but sometimes parallel upgrade are just not possible.
>>  
>> I’ve done 3 x 10.5 to 11.6 direct upgrade recently any only had one issue 
>> that wasn’t directly related to the upgrade. Other than that they have been 
>> pretty smooth.
>>  
>> In your pre-checks don’t just check DB replication but also CUC and UCCX 
>> replication on the respective servers (utils uccx/cuc dbreplication status). 
>> Plus check from the pub and sub as on a CUC upgrade recently it kept 
>> failing, Turned out CUC replication wasn’t set up correctly. Ran the command 
>> from the Pub and it stated everything was good, Ran from the Sub said it was 
>> failed. Ended up re-building the CUC Sub. The issue came about from a host 
>> name change years back and some of the tables where not updated on the sub.
>>  
>> Also double check the memory requirements. As 11.x requires 2 extra gig most 
>> of the OVA’s.
>>  
>> Upgrade timings going from 10.5 to 11.5/6
>>  
>> Memory upgrade where completed prior to upgrades.
>> 
>> CUCM Upgrade Pub 90 Mins 7.5k OVA
>> CUCM Upgrade Subs 60 Mins
>> IM&P Upgrade Pub 70 Mins 5K OVA
>> IM&P Upgrade Sub 50 Mins
>> 
>> CUCM Switch Versions Pub 40 Mins 
>> CUCM Switch Versions Subs 30 Mins
>> IM&P Switch Versions Pub 30 Mins
>> IM&P Switch Versions Sub 30 Mins
>> 
>> UCCX Upgrade Pub 80 Mins – 300 Agent OVA
>> UCCX Upgrade Sub 60 Mins
>> UCCX Switch Versions Pub 45 Mins
>> UCCX Switch Versions Sub 30 Mins
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Regards
>>  
>> Matthew Collins
>>  
>>  
>> From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of Lelio 
>> Fulgenzi
>> Sent: 17 January 2019 16:37
>> To: SK ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5
>>  
>>  
>> I will say one thing, if you have the opportunity to duplicate the 
>> environment in an off-line network and perform the upgrades there, then your 
>> migration will basically be downtime involved with shutting down old servers 
>> and turning up new servers. This is not trivial, by any stretch of the 
>> imagination. However, once you put some thought into it, I think you’ll find 
>> this method extremely valuable.
>>  
>> You work out all the kinks in the offline network and repeat until you are 
>> satisfied.
>>  
>> You’ll need a couple of things to make this work, namely, a change freeze 
>> window and the “pre 8.0” enterprise parameter.
>>  
>> We’ve done this twice now and it’s worked like a charm.
>>  
>> I would hate to do upgrades on live systems.
>>  
>> Lelio
>>  
>>  
>> ---
>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 
>> 2W1
>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
>>  
>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of SK
>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 10:48 AM
>> To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
>> Subject: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5
>>  
>> We are planning upgrade for our CUCM - CUC -UCCX platform from 10.5 to 11.5 
>> soon  . UCCX will be on 11.6.2 mostly .
>>  
>> I will appreciate any pointers on known bugs / challenges .
>>  
>> Thank you . 
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Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5

2019-01-18 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi 
This should be a signal to professional services orgs out there to rent out UCS 
systems for offline upgrades. :)



-sent from mobile device-

Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 
2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | 
le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook

[University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]

On Jan 18, 2019, at 5:24 AM, Matthew Collins 
mailto:mcoll...@block.co.uk>> wrote:

Agree with Lelio but sometimes parallel upgrade are just not possible.

I’ve done 3 x 10.5 to 11.6 direct upgrade recently any only had one issue that 
wasn’t directly related to the upgrade. Other than that they have been pretty 
smooth.

In your pre-checks don’t just check DB replication but also CUC and UCCX 
replication on the respective servers (utils uccx/cuc dbreplication status). 
Plus check from the pub and sub as on a CUC upgrade recently it kept failing, 
Turned out CUC replication wasn’t set up correctly. Ran the command from the 
Pub and it stated everything was good, Ran from the Sub said it was failed. 
Ended up re-building the CUC Sub. The issue came about from a host name change 
years back and some of the tables where not updated on the sub.

Also double check the memory requirements. As 11.x requires 2 extra gig most of 
the OVA’s.

Upgrade timings going from 10.5 to 11.5/6

Memory upgrade where completed prior to upgrades.

CUCM Upgrade Pub 90 Mins 7.5k OVA
CUCM Upgrade Subs 60 Mins
IM&P Upgrade Pub 70 Mins 5K OVA
IM&P Upgrade Sub 50 Mins

CUCM Switch Versions Pub 40 Mins
CUCM Switch Versions Subs 30 Mins
IM&P Switch Versions Pub 30 Mins
IM&P Switch Versions Sub 30 Mins

UCCX Upgrade Pub 80 Mins – 300 Agent OVA
UCCX Upgrade Sub 60 Mins
UCCX Switch Versions Pub 45 Mins
UCCX Switch Versions Sub 30 Mins



Regards

Matthew Collins


From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: 17 January 2019 16:37
To: SK mailto:cciecollab2...@gmail.com>>; 
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5


I will say one thing, if you have the opportunity to duplicate the environment 
in an off-line network and perform the upgrades there, then your migration will 
basically be downtime involved with shutting down old servers and turning up 
new servers. This is not trivial, by any stretch of the imagination. However, 
once you put some thought into it, I think you’ll find this method extremely 
valuable.

You work out all the kinks in the offline network and repeat until you are 
satisfied.

You’ll need a couple of things to make this work, namely, a change freeze 
window and the “pre 8.0” enterprise parameter.

We’ve done this twice now and it’s worked like a charm.

I would hate to do upgrades on live systems.

Lelio


---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook



From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of SK
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 10:48 AM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5

We are planning upgrade for our CUCM - CUC -UCCX platform from 10.5 to 11.5 
soon  . UCCX will be on 11.6.2 mostly .

I will appreciate any pointers on known bugs / challenges .

Thank you .
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Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5

2019-01-18 Thread Matthew Collins 
Agree with Lelio but sometimes parallel upgrade are just not possible.

I’ve done 3 x 10.5 to 11.6 direct upgrade recently any only had one issue that 
wasn’t directly related to the upgrade. Other than that they have been pretty 
smooth.

In your pre-checks don’t just check DB replication but also CUC and UCCX 
replication on the respective servers (utils uccx/cuc dbreplication status). 
Plus check from the pub and sub as on a CUC upgrade recently it kept failing, 
Turned out CUC replication wasn’t set up correctly. Ran the command from the 
Pub and it stated everything was good, Ran from the Sub said it was failed. 
Ended up re-building the CUC Sub. The issue came about from a host name change 
years back and some of the tables where not updated on the sub.

Also double check the memory requirements. As 11.x requires 2 extra gig most of 
the OVA’s.

Upgrade timings going from 10.5 to 11.5/6

Memory upgrade where completed prior to upgrades.

CUCM Upgrade Pub 90 Mins 7.5k OVA
CUCM Upgrade Subs 60 Mins
IM&P Upgrade Pub 70 Mins 5K OVA
IM&P Upgrade Sub 50 Mins

CUCM Switch Versions Pub 40 Mins
CUCM Switch Versions Subs 30 Mins
IM&P Switch Versions Pub 30 Mins
IM&P Switch Versions Sub 30 Mins

UCCX Upgrade Pub 80 Mins – 300 Agent OVA
UCCX Upgrade Sub 60 Mins
UCCX Switch Versions Pub 45 Mins
UCCX Switch Versions Sub 30 Mins



Regards

Matthew Collins


From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of Lelio 
Fulgenzi
Sent: 17 January 2019 16:37
To: SK ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5


I will say one thing, if you have the opportunity to duplicate the environment 
in an off-line network and perform the upgrades there, then your migration will 
basically be downtime involved with shutting down old servers and turning up 
new servers. This is not trivial, by any stretch of the imagination. However, 
once you put some thought into it, I think you’ll find this method extremely 
valuable.

You work out all the kinks in the offline network and repeat until you are 
satisfied.

You’ll need a couple of things to make this work, namely, a change freeze 
window and the “pre 8.0” enterprise parameter.

We’ve done this twice now and it’s worked like a charm.

I would hate to do upgrades on live systems.

Lelio


---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook

[University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]

From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of SK
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 10:48 AM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] CUCM upgrade from 10.5 to 11.5

We are planning upgrade for our CUCM - CUC -UCCX platform from 10.5 to 11.5 
soon  . UCCX will be on 11.6.2 mostly .

I will appreciate any pointers on known bugs / challenges .

Thank you .
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