Re: [cisco-voip] Integrating IM only between Jabber & S4B cross-organizations

[Lelio Fulgenzi]

I'm always hesitant integrating with a service provider that has no real 
competition - for a number of reasons. Although I like the idea of service 
enhancement, we have to tread carefully.



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From: Ben Amick <bam...@humanarc.com>
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 2:57 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi; Brian Meade; Justin Steinberg
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Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Integrating IM only between Jabber & S4B 
cross-organizations


That service seems too good to be true. Though I guess if you have any decent 
size larger organization, the cost would be fairly steep. Even for their base 
service, $2/user/month for 500 users would be $12k/year, which is a lot to pay 
for IM linking, but I guess if you talk to a lot of external organizations it 
would pay for itself.



Ben Amick

Telecom Analyst



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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Integrating IM only between Jabber & S4B 
cross-organizations



very cool.





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on behalf of Brian Meade <bmead...@vt.edu<mailto:bmead...@vt.edu>>
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 10:48 AM
To: Justin Steinberg
Cc: Cisco VOIP
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Integrating IM only between Jabber & S4B 
cross-organizations



There's also this 3rd party product I know of- 
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Nextplane UC Federation and Collaboration Service for 
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nextplane.net

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NextPlane nCore is a B2B secure real-time communication and collaboration 
service that offers ...






On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 6:05 PM, Justin Steinberg 
<jsteinb...@gmail.com<mailto:jsteinb...@gmail.com>> wrote:

This is possible now on the latest version of expressway x8.9 and IMP server 
11.5(1)su2.



This will only work between two different domain names, which seems to be what 
you want to do.



This will provide IM & Presence.   Voice & Video calling would require CMS.



On Feb 23, 2017 4:54 PM, "Ben Amick" 
<bam...@humanarc.com<mailto:bam...@humanarc.com>> wrote:

So I’m being asked if it’s possible to integrate S4B on O365 and Jabber – I 
know not natively, as Skype/Lync isn’t an XMPP client, and I know there’s the 
connector for expressway to be able to do full IMP & Video, but that’s all 
internal. Is there any way to integrate messaging between S4B and Jabber 
between two separate organizations, especially since one is on O365?



Ben Amick

Telecom Analyst



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Re: [cisco-voip] Integrating IM only between Jabber & S4B cross-organizations

[Ben Amick]

That service seems too good to be true. Though I guess if you have any decent 
size larger organization, the cost would be fairly steep. Even for their base 
service, $2/user/month for 500 users would be $12k/year, which is a lot to pay 
for IM linking, but I guess if you talk to a lot of external organizations it 
would pay for itself.

Ben Amick
Telecom Analyst

From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio 
Fulgenzi
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 10:58 AM
To: Brian Meade <bmead...@vt.edu>; Justin Steinberg <jsteinb...@gmail.com>
Cc: Cisco VOIP <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Integrating IM only between Jabber & S4B 
cross-organizations


very cool.




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Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
Computing and Communications Services (CCS)
University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
le...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>
www.uoguelph.ca/ccs<http://www.uoguelph.ca/ccs>
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building
Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1


From: cisco-voip 
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on behalf of Brian Meade <bmead...@vt.edu<mailto:bmead...@vt.edu>>
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 10:48 AM
To: Justin Steinberg
Cc: Cisco VOIP
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Integrating IM only between Jabber & S4B 
cross-organizations

There's also this 3rd party product I know of- 
https://nextplane.net/<http://cp.mcafee.com/d/5fHCN8edEIf3zhO-DuXNKVJ55BZBcsehd79J55BZBcsY-Orhhpvuv7ffK6Qkn3hOqerTKzsSgRmlyEa9JGX3oSVsSjrlS6NJOVIsYY_swY_R-pvvpKYDRXBQSn6esKeophhWyaqRQRrI8YG7DR8OJMddECS3t-KyCepjjhjodTdAVPmEBCgYfCIvIfU6UrJaBGBPdpb5O5mUm-wamrIlU6A_zMddEzDTAjobZ8Qg6BKQGmGncRAIqnjh06MDV6ePB0yq80Qrd45o7Bzh0g-pz_wq808Qwg-9Ewqd40MMcCy2QqQEn00X2gFIVlxgSe76-nYZZTgpdu-Y>
Nextplane UC Federation and Collaboration Service for 
...<http://cp.mcafee.com/d/5fHCMUSyMYed7bWtXL6XCQkmnSkNMV4QsCQkmnSkNPPX9J55BZVYsY-Urhhsd79EVLuWdPp3lpmawECSHIdzrBPpdJnor6TbCNPPPZO3P_nVBZZCXOvnKnjpsoVOUVxB57G8FHnjlKMzOEuvkzaT0QSCrodTWWaoVBdd5dwTsSjDdqymp3M-qN-M_wrxKQGmGncRAIn8lrxrW0FpKNnwqj-f0QSyevuhdwLQzh0qmXiFqFsPmiNFtd40r2vAoXek29Ew3hIQglwumd413VCf-1Ew0zi13UCy1EQg330Oq8bhHixs03I92CPBm53oUsrJSgBao2CsUDT>
nextplane.net
nCore Federation Service Simplifying Collaboration with External Teams. 
NextPlane nCore is a B2B secure real-time communication and collaboration 
service that offers ...



On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 6:05 PM, Justin Steinberg 
<jsteinb...@gmail.com<mailto:jsteinb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is possible now on the latest version of expressway x8.9 and IMP server 
11.5(1)su2.

This will only work between two different domain names, which seems to be what 
you want to do.

This will provide IM & Presence.   Voice & Video calling would require CMS.

On Feb 23, 2017 4:54 PM, "Ben Amick" 
<bam...@humanarc.com<mailto:bam...@humanarc.com>> wrote:
So I'm being asked if it's possible to integrate S4B on O365 and Jabber - I 
know not natively, as Skype/Lync isn't an XMPP client, and I know there's the 
connector for expressway to be able to do full IMP & Video, but that's all 
internal. Is there any way to integrate messaging between S4B and Jabber 
between two separate organizations, especially since one is on O365?

Ben Amick
Telecom Analyst


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Re: [cisco-voip] Integrating IM only between Jabber & S4B cross-organizations

[Lelio Fulgenzi]

very cool.



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Computing and Communications Services (CCS)
University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
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From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net> on behalf of Brian Meade 
<bmead...@vt.edu>
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 10:48 AM
To: Justin Steinberg
Cc: Cisco VOIP
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Integrating IM only between Jabber & S4B 
cross-organizations

There's also this 3rd party product I know of- https://nextplane.net/
Nextplane UC Federation and Collaboration Service for 
...<https://nextplane.net/>
nextplane.net
nCore Federation Service Simplifying Collaboration with External Teams. 
NextPlane nCore is a B2B secure real-time communication and collaboration 
service that offers ...



On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 6:05 PM, Justin Steinberg 
<jsteinb...@gmail.com<mailto:jsteinb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is possible now on the latest version of expressway x8.9 and IMP server 
11.5(1)su2.

This will only work between two different domain names, which seems to be what 
you want to do.

This will provide IM & Presence.   Voice & Video calling would require CMS.

On Feb 23, 2017 4:54 PM, "Ben Amick" 
<bam...@humanarc.com<mailto:bam...@humanarc.com>> wrote:
So I’m being asked if it’s possible to integrate S4B on O365 and Jabber – I 
know not natively, as Skype/Lync isn’t an XMPP client, and I know there’s the 
connector for expressway to be able to do full IMP & Video, but that’s all 
internal. Is there any way to integrate messaging between S4B and Jabber 
between two separate organizations, especially since one is on O365?

Ben Amick
Telecom Analyst


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Re: [cisco-voip] Integrating IM only between Jabber & S4B cross-organizations

[Brian Meade]

There's also this 3rd party product I know of- https://nextplane.net/

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 6:05 PM, Justin Steinberg 
wrote:

> This is possible now on the latest version of expressway x8.9 and IMP
> server 11.5(1)su2.
>
> This will only work between two different domain names, which seems to be
> what you want to do.
>
> This will provide IM & Presence.   Voice & Video calling would require CMS.
>
> On Feb 23, 2017 4:54 PM, "Ben Amick"  wrote:
>
>> So I’m being asked if it’s possible to integrate S4B on O365 and Jabber –
>> I know not natively, as Skype/Lync isn’t an XMPP client, and I know there’s
>> the connector for expressway to be able to do full IMP & Video, but that’s
>> all internal. Is there any way to integrate messaging between S4B and
>> Jabber between two separate organizations, especially since one is on O365?
>>
>>
>>
>> *Ben Amick*
>>
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Re: [cisco-voip] Integrating IM only between Jabber & S4B cross-organizations

[Justin Steinberg]

This is possible now on the latest version of expressway x8.9 and IMP
server 11.5(1)su2.

This will only work between two different domain names, which seems to be
what you want to do.

This will provide IM & Presence.   Voice & Video calling would require CMS.

On Feb 23, 2017 4:54 PM, "Ben Amick"  wrote:

> So I’m being asked if it’s possible to integrate S4B on O365 and Jabber –
> I know not natively, as Skype/Lync isn’t an XMPP client, and I know there’s
> the connector for expressway to be able to do full IMP & Video, but that’s
> all internal. Is there any way to integrate messaging between S4B and
> Jabber between two separate organizations, especially since one is on O365?
>
>
>
> *Ben Amick*
>
> Telecom Analyst
>
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[cisco-voip] Integrating IM only between Jabber & S4B cross-organizations

[Ben Amick]

So I'm being asked if it's possible to integrate S4B on O365 and Jabber - I 
know not natively, as Skype/Lync isn't an XMPP client, and I know there's the 
connector for expressway to be able to do full IMP & Video, but that's all 
internal. Is there any way to integrate messaging between S4B and Jabber 
between two separate organizations, especially since one is on O365?

Ben Amick
Telecom Analyst



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