Re: [cisco-voip] sRTP and RTP in SIP Invite

2014-06-02 Thread Mark Holloway
Unfortunately I don’t manage the CUCM environment. Based on what I’ve read so 
far, CUCM SIP Trunks technically only support SRTP or RTP, but not both, in a 
SIP Invite. If both are present in the SIP Invite then CUCM only selects the 
first one in the list as opposed to choosing a preferred type. Doing it this 
way breaks the RFC which is my big pain point. The vendor for the equipment 
sending the invite isn’t going to change their spec and completely break the 
RFC to accommodate Cisco’s way of supporting SRTP.  There are ways around this 
using the vendor’s equipment, but I was hoping that perhaps there is a way this 
can be accommodated within CUCM. 

On May 30, 2014, at 12:20 PM, Brian Meade bmead...@vt.edu wrote:

 Can you send a CallManager SDI/SDL trace for one of these calls?
 
 
 On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Mark Holloway m...@markholloway.com wrote:
 Yep, it’s TLS.  Certificates are loaded.
 
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Brian Meade bmead...@vt.edu wrote:
 
 Mark,
 
 Is the device actually using TLS for the signaling?  I don't think CUCM will 
 let you use SRTP if the signaling channel isn't encrypted.
 
 Brian
 
 
 On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Mark Holloway m...@markholloway.com 
 wrote:
 I’ve got a non-Cisco SIP device sending SIP Invites to CUCM (SIP Trunk). The 
 SDP from my device includes RTP and sRTP in the SIP Invite. Reading Cisco 
 docs it looks like the way Cisco expects sRTP to work is the SIP Invite 
 should only include sRTP assuming if the call should be encrypted.  If both 
 RTP and sRTP are in the SDP, CUCM will always choose the first one in the 
 list rather than the preferred type (sRTP in this example).  In my case RTP 
 is being listed first then sRTP, therefore CUCM will never choose sRTP even 
 though that is what I prefer.
 
 Has anyone encountered this before and is there a way around it?
 
 Thanks,
 Mark
 
 
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[cisco-voip] sRTP and RTP in SIP Invite

2014-05-30 Thread Mark Holloway
I’ve got a non-Cisco SIP device sending SIP Invites to CUCM (SIP Trunk). The 
SDP from my device includes RTP and sRTP in the SIP Invite. Reading Cisco docs 
it looks like the way Cisco expects sRTP to work is the SIP Invite should only 
include sRTP assuming if the call should be encrypted.  If both RTP and sRTP 
are in the SDP, CUCM will always choose the first one in the list rather than 
the preferred type (sRTP in this example).  In my case RTP is being listed 
first then sRTP, therefore CUCM will never choose sRTP even though that is what 
I prefer.

Has anyone encountered this before and is there a way around it?  

Thanks,
Mark


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Re: [cisco-voip] sRTP and RTP in SIP Invite

2014-05-30 Thread Mark Holloway
Yep, it’s TLS.  Certificates are loaded.


On May 30, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Brian Meade bmead...@vt.edu wrote:

 Mark,
 
 Is the device actually using TLS for the signaling?  I don't think CUCM will 
 let you use SRTP if the signaling channel isn't encrypted.
 
 Brian
 
 
 On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Mark Holloway m...@markholloway.com wrote:
 I’ve got a non-Cisco SIP device sending SIP Invites to CUCM (SIP Trunk). The 
 SDP from my device includes RTP and sRTP in the SIP Invite. Reading Cisco 
 docs it looks like the way Cisco expects sRTP to work is the SIP Invite 
 should only include sRTP assuming if the call should be encrypted.  If both 
 RTP and sRTP are in the SDP, CUCM will always choose the first one in the 
 list rather than the preferred type (sRTP in this example).  In my case RTP 
 is being listed first then sRTP, therefore CUCM will never choose sRTP even 
 though that is what I prefer.
 
 Has anyone encountered this before and is there a way around it?
 
 Thanks,
 Mark
 
 
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Re: [cisco-voip] sRTP and RTP in SIP Invite

2014-05-30 Thread Brian Meade
Can you send a CallManager SDI/SDL trace for one of these calls?


On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Mark Holloway m...@markholloway.com wrote:

 Yep, it’s TLS.  Certificates are loaded.


 On May 30, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Brian Meade bmead...@vt.edu wrote:

 Mark,

 Is the device actually using TLS for the signaling?  I don't think CUCM
 will let you use SRTP if the signaling channel isn't encrypted.

 Brian


 On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Mark Holloway m...@markholloway.com
 wrote:

 I’ve got a non-Cisco SIP device sending SIP Invites to CUCM (SIP Trunk).
 The SDP from my device includes RTP and sRTP in the SIP Invite. Reading
 Cisco docs it looks like the way Cisco expects sRTP to work is the SIP
 Invite should only include sRTP assuming if the call should be encrypted.
  If both RTP and sRTP are in the SDP, CUCM will always choose the first one
 in the list rather than the preferred type (sRTP in this example).  In my
 case RTP is being listed first then sRTP, therefore CUCM will never choose
 sRTP even though that is what I prefer.

 Has anyone encountered this before and is there a way around it?

 Thanks,
 Mark


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Re: [cisco-voip] sRTP and RTP in SIP Invite

2014-05-30 Thread Brian Meade
Mark,

Is the device actually using TLS for the signaling?  I don't think CUCM
will let you use SRTP if the signaling channel isn't encrypted.

Brian


On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Mark Holloway m...@markholloway.com wrote:

 I’ve got a non-Cisco SIP device sending SIP Invites to CUCM (SIP Trunk).
 The SDP from my device includes RTP and sRTP in the SIP Invite. Reading
 Cisco docs it looks like the way Cisco expects sRTP to work is the SIP
 Invite should only include sRTP assuming if the call should be encrypted.
  If both RTP and sRTP are in the SDP, CUCM will always choose the first one
 in the list rather than the preferred type (sRTP in this example).  In my
 case RTP is being listed first then sRTP, therefore CUCM will never choose
 sRTP even though that is what I prefer.

 Has anyone encountered this before and is there a way around it?

 Thanks,
 Mark


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