Re: [cisco-voip] Unity DRS components

2019-08-13 Thread Erick Bergquist
Yep, those above unity recovery methods are great. Have done a few of each
myself. Better than rebuilding both or restoring from drs (as long as db is
good).



On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 8:09 AM Myron Young 
wrote:

> Understood thanks for the insight.
>
> On Aug 13, 2019, at 9:52 AM, Ryan Huff  wrote:
>
> In Unity, the Primary and HA DRS components are separated and operate
> independently. Though it’s generally not necessary to backup the HA node.
>
> - In a DR recovery scenario of both Unity Servers, you can restore the
> Primary and install a new HA.
>
> - In a DR recovery scenario of the HA only, just install a new HA (because
> if you restored a HA DRS, it would take even longer because you have to
> reset cluster replication).
>
> - In a DR scenario of the Primary only (and the HA is still running);
> install a new Primary and renegotiate the Primary to the HA. This is far
> quicker than reinstalling a new Primary and then a new HA.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 13, 2019, at 09:14, Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Is this one of those “back up the publisher only, restore the publisher,
> reinstall the subscriber and let the publisher re-image the subscriber”
> sort of things?
>
>
>
> We’ve seen that in this case, platform information is never restored and
> who the heck likes to remember that sort of stuff?
>
>
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> *From:* cisco-voip  *On Behalf Of *Anthony
> Holloway
> *Sent:* Monday, August 12, 2019 11:24 AM
> *To:* Charles Goldsmith 
> *Cc:* cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Unity DRS components
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> Source: Install, Upgrade, and Maintenance Guide for Cisco Unity
> Connection Release 11.x
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> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 9:22 AM Charles Goldsmith  wrote:
>
> Unity Connection has always been the oddball, the pub only backs it self
> up, you have to schedule the sub to do it's own backup.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 8:30 AM Myron Young 
> wrote:
>
> Morning,
>
> Is it just me or shouldn’t both the Unity Pub and Sub servers be shown as
> available “components registered with Disaster Recovery System” when
> running either a manual or scheduled backup?
>
>  I see all nodes in the cluster for UCM but not seeing it on the Unity
> cluster; and confirmed the DRS local and master services are running on
> both servers.
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Re: [cisco-voip] Unity DRS components

2019-08-13 Thread Myron Young
Understood thanks for the insight.

On Aug 13, 2019, at 9:52 AM, Ryan Huff 
mailto:ryanh...@outlook.com>> wrote:

In Unity, the Primary and HA DRS components are separated and operate 
independently. Though it’s generally not necessary to backup the HA node.

- In a DR recovery scenario of both Unity Servers, you can restore the Primary 
and install a new HA.

- In a DR recovery scenario of the HA only, just install a new HA (because if 
you restored a HA DRS, it would take even longer because you have to reset 
cluster replication).

- In a DR scenario of the Primary only (and the HA is still running); install a 
new Primary and renegotiate the Primary to the HA. This is far quicker than 
reinstalling a new Primary and then a new HA.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 13, 2019, at 09:14, Lelio Fulgenzi 
mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:


Is this one of those “back up the publisher only, restore the publisher, 
reinstall the subscriber and let the publisher re-image the subscriber” sort of 
things?

We’ve seen that in this case, platform information is never restored and who 
the heck likes to remember that sort of stuff?

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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Unity DRS components




Source: Install, Upgrade, and Maintenance Guide for Cisco Unity Connection 
Release 
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On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 9:22 AM Charles Goldsmith 
mailto:w...@woka.us>> wrote:
Unity Connection has always been the oddball, the pub only backs it self up, 
you have to schedule the sub to do it's own backup.

On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 8:30 AM Myron Young 
mailto:mdavid_yo...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Morning,

Is it just me or shouldn’t both the Unity Pub and Sub servers be shown as 
available “components registered with Disaster Recovery System” when running 
either a manual or scheduled backup?

 I see all nodes in the cluster for UCM but not seeing it on the Unity cluster; 
and confirmed the DRS local and master services are running on both servers.
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Re: [cisco-voip] Unity DRS components

2019-08-13 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi
Cool. Thanks for the scenarios…

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From: Ryan Huff 
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 9:52 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi 
Cc: Anthony Holloway ; Charles Goldsmith 
; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Unity DRS components

In Unity, the Primary and HA DRS components are separated and operate 
independently. Though it’s generally not necessary to backup the HA node.

- In a DR recovery scenario of both Unity Servers, you can restore the Primary 
and install a new HA.

- In a DR recovery scenario of the HA only, just install a new HA (because if 
you restored a HA DRS, it would take even longer because you have to reset 
cluster replication).

- In a DR scenario of the Primary only (and the HA is still running); install a 
new Primary and renegotiate the Primary to the HA. This is far quicker than 
reinstalling a new Primary and then a new HA.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 13, 2019, at 09:14, Lelio Fulgenzi 
mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:

Is this one of those “back up the publisher only, restore the publisher, 
reinstall the subscriber and let the publisher re-image the subscriber” sort of 
things?

We’ve seen that in this case, platform information is never restored and who 
the heck likes to remember that sort of stuff?

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Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Unity DRS components




Source: Install, Upgrade, and Maintenance Guide for Cisco Unity Connection 
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On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 9:22 AM Charles Goldsmith 
mailto:w...@woka.us>> wrote:
Unity Connection has always been the oddball, the pub only backs it self up, 
you have to schedule the sub to do it's own backup.

On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 8:30 AM Myron Young 
mailto:mdavid_yo...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Morning,

Is it just me or shouldn’t both the Unity Pub and Sub servers be shown as 
available “components registered with Disaster Recovery System” when running 
either a manual or scheduled backup?

 I see all nodes in the cluster for UCM but not seeing it on the Unity cluster; 
and confirmed the DRS local and master services are running on both servers.
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Re: [cisco-voip] Unity DRS components

2019-08-13 Thread Ryan Huff
In Unity, the Primary and HA DRS components are separated and operate 
independently. Though it’s generally not necessary to backup the HA node.

- In a DR recovery scenario of both Unity Servers, you can restore the Primary 
and install a new HA.

- In a DR recovery scenario of the HA only, just install a new HA (because if 
you restored a HA DRS, it would take even longer because you have to reset 
cluster replication).

- In a DR scenario of the Primary only (and the HA is still running); install a 
new Primary and renegotiate the Primary to the HA. This is far quicker than 
reinstalling a new Primary and then a new HA.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 13, 2019, at 09:14, Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:


Is this one of those “back up the publisher only, restore the publisher, 
reinstall the subscriber and let the publisher re-image the subscriber” sort of 
things?

We’ve seen that in this case, platform information is never restored and who 
the heck likes to remember that sort of stuff?

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Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 11:24 AM
To: Charles Goldsmith 
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Unity DRS components




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On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 9:22 AM Charles Goldsmith 
mailto:w...@woka.us>> wrote:
Unity Connection has always been the oddball, the pub only backs it self up, 
you have to schedule the sub to do it's own backup.

On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 8:30 AM Myron Young 
mailto:mdavid_yo...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Morning,

Is it just me or shouldn’t both the Unity Pub and Sub servers be shown as 
available “components registered with Disaster Recovery System” when running 
either a manual or scheduled backup?

 I see all nodes in the cluster for UCM but not seeing it on the Unity cluster; 
and confirmed the DRS local and master services are running on both servers.
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Re: [cisco-voip] Unity DRS components

2019-08-13 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi
Is this one of those “back up the publisher only, restore the publisher, 
reinstall the subscriber and let the publisher re-image the subscriber” sort of 
things?

We’ve seen that in this case, platform information is never restored and who 
the heck likes to remember that sort of stuff?

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From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Holloway
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 11:24 AM
To: Charles Goldsmith 
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Unity DRS components


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On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 9:22 AM Charles Goldsmith 
mailto:w...@woka.us>> wrote:
Unity Connection has always been the oddball, the pub only backs it self up, 
you have to schedule the sub to do it's own backup.

On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 8:30 AM Myron Young 
mailto:mdavid_yo...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Morning,

Is it just me or shouldn’t both the Unity Pub and Sub servers be shown as 
available “components registered with Disaster Recovery System” when running 
either a manual or scheduled backup?

 I see all nodes in the cluster for UCM but not seeing it on the Unity cluster; 
and confirmed the DRS local and master services are running on both servers.
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Re: [cisco-voip] Unity DRS components

2019-08-12 Thread Anthony Holloway
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Source: Install, Upgrade, and Maintenance Guide for Cisco Unity Connection
Release 11.x



On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 9:22 AM Charles Goldsmith  wrote:

> Unity Connection has always been the oddball, the pub only backs it self
> up, you have to schedule the sub to do it's own backup.
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 8:30 AM Myron Young 
> wrote:
>
>> Morning,
>>
>> Is it just me or shouldn’t both the Unity Pub and Sub servers be shown as
>> available “components registered with Disaster Recovery System” when
>> running either a manual or scheduled backup?
>>
>>  I see all nodes in the cluster for UCM but not seeing it on the Unity
>> cluster; and confirmed the DRS local and master services are running on
>> both servers.
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Re: [cisco-voip] Unity DRS components

2019-08-12 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Unity Connection has always been the oddball, the pub only backs it self
up, you have to schedule the sub to do it's own backup.

On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 8:30 AM Myron Young 
wrote:

> Morning,
>
> Is it just me or shouldn’t both the Unity Pub and Sub servers be shown as
> available “components registered with Disaster Recovery System” when
> running either a manual or scheduled backup?
>
>  I see all nodes in the cluster for UCM but not seeing it on the Unity
> cluster; and confirmed the DRS local and master services are running on
> both servers.
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