[Clamav-users] Worm.Sober.U not being recognized

2005-11-21 Thread Pete 'Wolfy' Hanson
I'm running clamav-milter 0.87 from ClamAV 0.87.1 with sendmail 8.13.5, with
a database that is fully up-to-date (main.cvd version 34, daily.cvd version
1182), but for some reason this setup is not catching Worm.Sober.U, and
we're getting slammed pretty hard with it. I've tried submitting the
offending message on the virus submission page, but am told that:

This virus is *already recognized* by ClamAV 0.87.1/1182/Mon Nov 21 20:43:47
2005 (timezone: +0100 ) as Worm.Sober.U . Be careful when submitting samples
and remember to run freshclam!


Running clamscan --detect-broken finds the message, and generates no errors,
but clamav-milter does not find the message when it comes in. clamd.logshows:

Nov 21 14:08:18 paz clamav-milter[26450]: [ID 788897 local7.notice]
jALM6n0R027652: clean message from [EMAIL PROTECTED]

for the scanned message.


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Re: [Clamav-users] Worm.Sober.U not being recognized

2005-11-21 Thread Kelson

Pete 'Wolfy' Hanson wrote:

Running clamscan --detect-broken finds the message, and generates no errors,
but clamav-milter does not find the message when it comes in. clamd.logshows:

Nov 21 14:08:18 paz clamav-milter[26450]: [ID 788897 local7.notice]
jALM6n0R027652: clean message from [EMAIL PROTECTED]


We've been detecting Worm.Sober.U here for a little over 2 hours (with 
daily.cvd 1182).  If clamscan finds it, but clamav-milter doesn't, maybe 
for some reason clamd didn't load the updated database?  Try restarting 
clamd and/or clamav-mitler (I've never used the milter, so I'm not sure 
what's necessary) and see if that does it.


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Re: [Clamav-users] Worm.Sober.U not being recognized

2005-11-21 Thread Pete 'Wolfy' Hanson
On 11/21/05, Kelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We've been detecting Worm.Sober.U here for a little over 2 hours (with
 daily.cvd 1182). If clamscan finds it, but clamav-milter doesn't, maybe
 for some reason clamd didn't load the updated database? Try restarting
 clamd and/or clamav-mitler (I've never used the milter, so I'm not sure
 what's necessary) and see if that does it.


I've already tried a couple of restarts to no avail.



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Re: [Clamav-users] Worm.Sober.U not being recognized

2005-11-21 Thread Bryan Vest

Pete 'Wolfy' Hanson wrote:


On 11/21/05, Kelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


We've been detecting Worm.Sober.U here for a little over 2 hours (with
daily.cvd 1182). If clamscan finds it, but clamav-milter doesn't, maybe
for some reason clamd didn't load the updated database? Try restarting
clamd and/or clamav-mitler (I've never used the milter, so I'm not sure
what's necessary) and see if that does it.

   



I've already tried a couple of restarts to no avail.



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We are seeing the same issue here. We picked it up a little over 3 hours 
ago. clamd just seems not to detect it. I have tested using clamscan and 
it does find it, but if I switch our filter to use clamscan the load is 
outrageous. We have been able to add rawbody rules to our spam filters 
that score them high enough to stop them at the filter, but clamd does 
not seem to be detecting it.

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RE: [Clamav-users] Worm.Sober.U not being recognized

2005-11-21 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Pete wrote:
 On 11/21/05, Kelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 We've been detecting Worm.Sober.U here for a little over 2 hours
 (with daily.cvd 1182). If clamscan finds it, but clamav-milter
 doesn't, maybe for some reason clamd didn't load the updated
 database? Try restarting clamd and/or clamav-mitler (I've never used
 the milter, so I'm not sure what's necessary) and see if that does
 it. 
 
 
 I've already tried a couple of restarts to no avail.

What are your clamd and clamav-milter options?

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Re: [Clamav-users] Worm.Sober.U not being recognized

2005-11-21 Thread Pete 'Wolfy' Hanson
On 11/21/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 What are your clamd and clamav-milter options?


/usr/local/sbin/clamav-milter --headers --pidfile=/var/clamav/clamav-
milter.pid --quiet /var/clamav/clamav-milter.sock

No clamd since we aren't running with --external.

which has worked well for a long time.


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Re: [Clamav-users] Worm.Sober.U not being recognized

2005-11-21 Thread Jason Haar
Pete 'Wolfy' Hanson wrote:
 On 11/21/05, Kelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 We've been detecting Worm.Sober.U here for a little over 2 hours (with
 daily.cvd 1182). If clamscan finds it, but clamav-milter doesn't, maybe
 for some reason clamd didn't load the updated database? Try restarting
 clamd and/or clamav-mitler (I've never used the milter, so I'm not sure
 what's necessary) and see if that does it.

 
Does your freshclam send a signal to clamd to reload the new patterns?
If not, you'll have to do that yourself

Also note that although wonderful ClamAV is one of the few AVs that are
currently detecting Sober.U - there are already some variants that even
it can't catch.

Looks like the prats are having a let's release 100 different variants
today party :-(


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Re: [Clamav-users] Worm.Sober.U not being recognized

2005-11-21 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 14:04:43 -0900
Pete 'Wolfy' Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 11/21/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  What are your clamd and clamav-milter options?
 
 
 /usr/local/sbin/clamav-milter --headers --pidfile=/var/clamav/clamav-
 milter.pid --quiet /var/clamav/clamav-milter.sock
 
 No clamd since we aren't running with --external.
 
 which has worked well for a long time.

Please post your clamd.conf file.

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Re: [Clamav-users] Worm.Sober.U not being recognized

2005-11-21 Thread Pete 'Wolfy' Hanson
On 11/21/05, Tomasz Kojm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Please post your clamd.conf file.


LogFileMaxSize 0
LogTime
LogClean
LogSyslog
LogFacility LOG_LOCAL7
PidFile /var/clamav/clamd.pid
TemporaryDirectory /tmp
FixStaleSocket
TCPSocket 3310
TCPAddr 127.0.0.1 http://127.0.0.1
MaxConnectionQueueLength 20
StreamMaxLength 2M
MaxThreads 151
ReadTimeout 60
MaxDirectoryRecursion 1
SelfCheck 1800
User clamav
ScanOLE2
ScanMail
ScanHTML
ScanArchive
ArchiveMaxFileSize 1M
ArchiveMaxRecursion 1
ArchiveMaxFiles 25
ArchiveMaxCompressionRatio 200

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[Clamav-users] Re: Worm.Sober.U not being recognized

2005-11-21 Thread René Berber
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Pete 'Wolfy' Hanson wrote:
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 Running clamscan --detect-broken finds the message, and generates no errors,
 but clamav-milter does not find the message when it comes in. clamd.logshows:

The key is that clamscan --detect-broken is not the default clamd operation
and probably the same goes for the milter.

Fix it by editing /etc/clamd.conf, make sure that the following are set:

DisableDefaultScanOptions
DetectBrokenExecutables

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Re: [Clamav-users] Worm.Sober.U not being recognized

2005-11-21 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 14:10:07 -0900
Pete 'Wolfy' Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 MaxDirectoryRecursion 1

You should be more careful when changing the config options. With the
current MaxDirectoryRecursion setting in your setup clamd/clamav-milter
will fail to detect a lot of malware.

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Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Worm.Sober.U not being recognized

2005-11-21 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:11:25 -0600
René Berber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Fix it by editing /etc/clamd.conf, make sure that the following are set:
 
 DisableDefaultScanOptions

Oh, no. Please do not enable this directive.

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Re: [Clamav-users] Worm.Sober.U not being recognized

2005-11-21 Thread Kevin W. Gagel
Pete 'Wolfy' Hanson wrote:

On 11/21/05, Kelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

We've been detecting Worm.Sober.U here for a little over
2 hours (with daily.cvd 1182). If clamscan finds it, but
clamav-milter doesn't, maybe for some reason clamd didn't
load the updated database? Try restarting clamd and/or
clamav-mitler (I've never used the milter, so I'm not
sure what's necessary) and see if that does it. 



I've already tried a couple of restarts to no avail.

I'm seeing the same thing here. My uvscan sees sober but
since I restarted the server this morning at 10am there have
been zero detections of anything from clamd at all. Only
seven detections from uvscan over the same time period.


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Re: [Clamav-users] Re: Worm.Sober.U not being recognized

2005-11-21 Thread Pete 'Wolfy' Hanson

 DisableDefaultScanOptions
 DetectBrokenExecutables


No change in behavior with those opts

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Re: [Clamav-users] Worm.Sober.U not being recognized

2005-11-21 Thread Pete 'Wolfy' Hanson
On 11/21/05, Tomasz Kojm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  MaxDirectoryRecursion 1

 You should be more careful when changing the config options. With the
 current MaxDirectoryRecursion setting in your setup clamd/clamav-milter
 will fail to detect a lot of malware.


Maybe, but it doesn't seem to have anything to do with the problem at hand.




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Re: [Clamav-users] Worm.Sober.U not being recognized

2005-11-21 Thread Pete 'Wolfy' Hanson

 I'm seeing the same thing here. My uvscan sees sober but
 since I restarted the server this morning at 10am there have
 been zero detections of anything from clamd at all. Only
 seven detections from uvscan over the same time period.


FWIW, we're detecting other viruses and worms - but Worm.Sober.U is slipping
through in large quantities. I can stop it elsewhere, but would rather have
ClamAV handle it like it should.

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Re: [Clamav-users] Worm.Sober.U not being recognized

2005-11-21 Thread Kevin W. Gagel
 I'm seeing the same thing here. My uvscan sees sober but
 since I restarted the server this morning at 10am there
 have been zero detections of anything from clamd at all.
 Only seven detections from uvscan over the same time
period. 

FWIW, we're detecting other viruses and worms - but
Worm.Sober.U is slipping through in large quantities. I can
stop it elsewhere, but would rather have ClamAV handle it
like it should.

Same here Pete. I'm just confirming what your seeing...

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Re: [Clamav-users] Worm.Sober.U not being recognized

2005-11-21 Thread JT Justman
Kevin W. Gagel wrote:
Pete 'Wolfy' Hanson wrote:


On 11/21/05, Kelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


We've been detecting Worm.Sober.U here for a little over
2 hours (with daily.cvd 1182). If clamscan finds it, but
clamav-milter doesn't, maybe for some reason clamd didn't
load the updated database? Try restarting clamd and/or
clamav-mitler (I've never used the milter, so I'm not
sure what's necessary) and see if that does it. 
   


I've already tried a couple of restarts to no avail.
 
 
 I'm seeing the same thing here. My uvscan sees sober but
 since I restarted the server this morning at 10am there have
 been zero detections of anything from clamd at all. Only
 seven detections from uvscan over the same time period.
 

I'm using qmail-scanner / clamdscan. Since updating to daily.cvd 1182,
Sober.U are being detected effectively. Before, they were getting
through (and also through outdated ClamWin clients).

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Re: [Clamav-users] Worm.Sober.U not being recognized

2005-11-21 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 14:39:58 -0900
Pete 'Wolfy' Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 11/21/05, Tomasz Kojm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   MaxDirectoryRecursion 1
 
  You should be more careful when changing the config options. With the
  current MaxDirectoryRecursion setting in your setup clamd/clamav-milter
  will fail to detect a lot of malware.
 
 
 Maybe, but it doesn't seem to have anything to do with the problem at hand.

Not true.

Anyway, I suspect your situation is now even worse. If you have enabled
DisableDefaultScanOptions (a nasty option that will be removed in the
next major release) as suggested in another post your
clamd/clamav-milter will fail to detect all malware in compressed
executables because your config file misses the ScanPE option.

I would suggest using the following config in your case (it's based on
the one you have sent here):

LogFileMaxSize 0
LogTime
LogClean
LogSyslog
LogFacility LOG_LOCAL7
PidFile /var/clamav/clamd.pid
TemporaryDirectory /tmp
FixStaleSocket
TCPSocket 3310
TCPAddr 127.0.0.1
MaxConnectionQueueLength 20
StreamMaxLength 2M
MaxThreads 30
ReadTimeout 60
MaxDirectoryRecursion 10
SelfCheck 1800
User clamav
ArchiveMaxFileSize 1M
ArchiveMaxRecursion 8
ArchiveMaxFiles 1000
ArchiveMaxCompressionRatio 250

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