[Clamav-users] Online scanner vs Sendvirus.cgi

2004-11-04 Thread George Chelidze
Hello,
I have just found a message which was trapped with sanitizer because of 
dangerous attachment (message.scr) and I thought it was a new worm. I 
checked it against clamav online scanner which reported the following:

ClamAV 0.80/572/Wed Nov 3 11:48:18 2004
ClamAV scans the file ...
Clamav-Output:
/tmp/php7TNJzC: OK
Clamav DID NOT identify your sample as malicious content
If you really think your sample is a virus or any other harmful thing 
clamav should detect please go to
http://clamav.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/sendvirus.cgi
and submit the virus.

I submited the sample but got the following output:
Result:
This virus is already recognized by ClamAV 0.80/572/Wed Nov 3 05:48:18 
2004 as Broken.Executable . Be careful when submitting samples and 
remember to run freshclam!
Please correct the above errors and retry.

I though I missed something and repeated the process but got the same 
result. Any ideas?

Best Regards,
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Re: [Clamav-users] Online scanner vs Sendvirus.cgi

2004-11-04 Thread Tomasz Papszun
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 at 11:48:35 +0300, George Chelidze wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have just found a message which was trapped with sanitizer because of 
 dangerous attachment (message.scr) and I thought it was a new worm. I 
 checked it against clamav online scanner which reported the following:
 
 ClamAV 0.80/572/Wed Nov 3 11:48:18 2004
 ClamAV scans the file ...
 Clamav-Output:
 /tmp/php7TNJzC: OK
 Clamav DID NOT identify your sample as malicious content
 If you really think your sample is a virus or any other harmful thing 
 clamav should detect please go to
 http://clamav.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/sendvirus.cgi
 and submit the virus.
 
 I submited the sample but got the following output:
 
 Result:
 This virus is already recognized by ClamAV 0.80/572/Wed Nov 3 05:48:18 
 2004 as Broken.Executable . Be careful when submitting samples and 
 remember to run freshclam!
 Please correct the above errors and retry.
 
 I though I missed something and repeated the process but got the same 
 result. Any ideas?
 

Seems that the scanner at sendvirus.cgi uses the DetectBrokenExecutables
option while clamav online scanner - not.

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lodz.tpsa.pl/iso/ | ones and zeros.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.ClamAV.net/   A GPL virus scanner
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Re: [Clamav-users] Online scanner vs Sendvirus.cgi

2004-11-04 Thread George Chelidze

Tomasz Papszun wrote:
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 at 11:48:35 +0300, George Chelidze wrote:
Hello,
I have just found a message which was trapped with sanitizer because of 
dangerous attachment (message.scr) and I thought it was a new worm. I 
checked it against clamav online scanner which reported the following:

ClamAV 0.80/572/Wed Nov 3 11:48:18 2004
ClamAV scans the file ...
Clamav-Output:
/tmp/php7TNJzC: OK
Clamav DID NOT identify your sample as malicious content
If you really think your sample is a virus or any other harmful thing 
clamav should detect please go to
http://clamav.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/sendvirus.cgi
and submit the virus.

I submited the sample but got the following output:
Result:
This virus is already recognized by ClamAV 0.80/572/Wed Nov 3 05:48:18 
2004 as Broken.Executable . Be careful when submitting samples and 
remember to run freshclam!
Please correct the above errors and retry.

I though I missed something and repeated the process but got the same 
result. Any ideas?


Seems that the scanner at sendvirus.cgi uses the DetectBrokenExecutables
option while clamav online scanner - not.
So is it a bad idea to enable the same in online scanner? It will save a 
little bandwidth...

Best Regards,
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George Chelidze
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Re: [Clamav-users] Online scanner vs Sendvirus.cgi

2004-11-04 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
George Chelidze wrote:
Seems that the scanner at sendvirus.cgi uses the DetectBrokenExecutables
option while clamav online scanner - not.

So is it a bad idea to enable the same in online scanner? It will save 
a little bandwidth...

Bad, because broken executables are not 100% virus.
Also bad, because it is not enabled by default on a standard installation.
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Re: [Clamav-users] Online scanner vs Sendvirus.cgi

2004-11-04 Thread Bogusaw Brandys
George Chelidze wrote:

Tomasz Papszun wrote:
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 at 11:48:35 +0300, George Chelidze wrote:
Hello,
I have just found a message which was trapped with sanitizer because 
of dangerous attachment (message.scr) and I thought it was a new 
worm. I checked it against clamav online scanner which reported the 
following:

ClamAV 0.80/572/Wed Nov 3 11:48:18 2004
ClamAV scans the file ...
Clamav-Output:
/tmp/php7TNJzC: OK
Clamav DID NOT identify your sample as malicious content
If you really think your sample is a virus or any other harmful thing 
clamav should detect please go to
http://clamav.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/sendvirus.cgi
and submit the virus.

I submited the sample but got the following output:
Result:
This virus is already recognized by ClamAV 0.80/572/Wed Nov 3 
05:48:18 2004 as Broken.Executable . Be careful when submitting 
samples and remember to run freshclam!
Please correct the above errors and retry.

I though I missed something and repeated the process but got the same 
result. Any ideas?


Seems that the scanner at sendvirus.cgi uses the DetectBrokenExecutables
option while clamav online scanner - not.

So is it a bad idea to enable the same in online scanner? It will save a 
little bandwidth...

Best Regards,
I think it's perfectly rigth to set this option on ,if - and only if - 
users do know what it means. Online scanner should describe this 
Broken.Executable as not malware or possible malware and should propose 
to use other scanner also to test it.Anyway Broken.Executable  could 
eventually *broke* Your system if You use Windows 9X

Regards
Bogusaw Brandys
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Re: [Clamav-users] Online scanner vs Sendvirus.cgi

2004-11-04 Thread George Chelidze
Hello,
Fajar A. Nugraha wrote:
George Chelidze wrote:
Seems that the scanner at sendvirus.cgi uses the DetectBrokenExecutables
option while clamav online scanner - not.

So is it a bad idea to enable the same in online scanner? It will save 
a little bandwidth...

Bad, because broken executables are not 100% virus.
I don't mean they should be marked as virus. The fact is that file isn't 
ok, it's already in base as broken executable.

Also bad, because it is not enabled by default on a standard installation.
We are not talking about adding this option to default options list. The 
online scanner is often used to check a file against known threats and 
if it's not detected by scanner (marked as OK) and suspected to be a new 
virus, it's submited to clamav team. Before you get back This virus is 
already recognized... message actually should be uploaded to server and 
should be checked once again (correct me if I am wrong) which is extra 
bandwidth and cpu power. Hope I made myself clear.

Best Regards,
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