Re: [Clamav-users] borked database

2004-11-20 Thread Dennis Peterson
Tomasz Kojm wrote:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 22:26:24 -0600 (CST)
Damian Menscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I guess it goes without saying (but I will anyway) that changing
things in a way that doesn't cause clamdwatch.pl to fail would be
greatly appreciated.  (Imagine lots of scared little sysadmins trying

Today's update was a special case.
I'm guessing that's what the announce list and project news on the home page is 
for, no? That's what I look at when ever I see something unexpected, anyway.

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Re: [Clamav-users] borked database

2004-11-20 Thread Tomasz Papszun
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 at 22:26:24 -0600, Damian Menscher wrote:
 On Sat, 20 Nov 2004, Tomasz Papszun wrote:
 On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 at 20:09:06 -0600, Damian Menscher wrote:
 
 Clamd didn't find the EICAR pattern. Your virus database(s) could be 
 borked!
 
 Eicar-Test-Signature was moved to daily.cvd to let us update it later
 (because currently it causes FPs with some files), resulting in a short
 absence.
 
 I'm confused.  If you have to change it, why not change main.cvd once, 
 rather than changing main.cvd to remove it then again to put it back? 

We update main.cvd from time to time, not very often - to minimize
mirrors'(and clients') network resources usage. As we were doing the
update anyway, we moved the signature to daily.cvd even though an
improved one wasn't ready yet - to not make another change of main.cvd
only to replace one or a few signatures as it would be a thoughtless
wastefulness. Moreover, the updated signature won't be put into
main.cvd at once anyway, because newly created signatures aren't placed
in main.cvd - they are placed in daily.cvd.

 Are we expected to check for updates to the daily.cvd more often than 
 for updates to main.cvd?

No.

 I guess it goes without saying (but I will anyway) that changing things 
 in a way that doesn't cause clamdwatch.pl to fail would be greatly 
 appreciated. 

That's the way we try to proceed (surprise, surprise!).

 (Imagine lots of scared little sysadmins trying to figure 
 out what to do when they get emails about ClamAV being borked.  ;)

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Re: [Clamav-users] borked database

2004-11-19 Thread Tomasz Papszun
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 at 19:43:19 -0600, Damian Menscher wrote:
 Anyone care to tell us what just happened to the database?  It got 
 borked and fixed about 1/2 hour later.
 
 I'd check on the archive, but the info's pretty old

I was updating both database files.

What, exactly, was wrong?

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Re: [Clamav-users] borked database

2004-11-19 Thread Damian Menscher
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004, Tomasz Papszun wrote:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 at 19:43:19 -0600, Damian Menscher wrote:
Anyone care to tell us what just happened to the database?  It got
borked and fixed about 1/2 hour later.
I'd check on the archive, but the info's pretty old
I was updating both database files.
What, exactly, was wrong?
All my servers did this two times (15 minutes apart):
Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/local/sbin/clamdwatch.pl -q  
/etc/init.d/clamd condrestart
Clamd didn't find the EICAR pattern. Your virus database(s) could be borked!
Stopping clamd: [  OK  ]
Starting clamd: [  OK  ]
Damian Menscher
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Re: [Clamav-users] borked database

2004-11-19 Thread Tomasz Papszun
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 at 20:09:06 -0600, Damian Menscher wrote:
 On Sat, 20 Nov 2004, Tomasz Papszun wrote:
  [...]
 What, exactly, was wrong?
 
 All my servers did this two times (15 minutes apart):
 
 Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/local/sbin/clamdwatch.pl -q  
 /etc/init.d/clamd condrestart
 Clamd didn't find the EICAR pattern. Your virus database(s) could be borked!
 Stopping clamd: [  OK  ]
 Starting clamd: [  OK  ]
 

Eicar-Test-Signature was moved to daily.cvd to let us update it later
(because currently it causes FPs with some files), resulting in a short
absence.

I apologise for the disturbance.

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Re: [Clamav-users] borked database

2004-11-19 Thread Damian Menscher
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004, Tomasz Papszun wrote:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 at 20:09:06 -0600, Damian Menscher wrote:
Clamd didn't find the EICAR pattern. Your virus database(s) could be borked!
Eicar-Test-Signature was moved to daily.cvd to let us update it later
(because currently it causes FPs with some files), resulting in a short
absence.
I'm confused.  If you have to change it, why not change main.cvd once, 
rather than changing main.cvd to remove it then again to put it back? 
Are we expected to check for updates to the daily.cvd more often than 
for updates to main.cvd?

I guess it goes without saying (but I will anyway) that changing things 
in a way that doesn't cause clamdwatch.pl to fail would be greatly 
appreciated.  (Imagine lots of scared little sysadmins trying to figure 
out what to do when they get emails about ClamAV being borked.  ;)

Damian Menscher
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Re: [Clamav-users] borked database

2004-11-19 Thread John Jolet
I think what happened was it was removed from main, and added to daily.   Just 
a timing issue.
On 11/19/2004 10:26 pm, Damian Menscher wrote:
 On Sat, 20 Nov 2004, Tomasz Papszun wrote:
  On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 at 20:09:06 -0600, Damian Menscher wrote:
  Clamd didn't find the EICAR pattern. Your virus database(s) could be
  borked!
 
  Eicar-Test-Signature was moved to daily.cvd to let us update it later
  (because currently it causes FPs with some files), resulting in a short
  absence.

 I'm confused.  If you have to change it, why not change main.cvd once,
 rather than changing main.cvd to remove it then again to put it back?
 Are we expected to check for updates to the daily.cvd more often than
 for updates to main.cvd?

 I guess it goes without saying (but I will anyway) that changing things
 in a way that doesn't cause clamdwatch.pl to fail would be greatly
 appreciated.  (Imagine lots of scared little sysadmins trying to figure
 out what to do when they get emails about ClamAV being borked.  ;)

 Damian Menscher

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Re: [Clamav-users] borked database

2004-11-19 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 22:26:24 -0600 (CST)
Damian Menscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, 20 Nov 2004, Tomasz Papszun wrote:
  On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 at 20:09:06 -0600, Damian Menscher wrote:
 
  Clamd didn't find the EICAR pattern. Your virus database(s) could
 be borked!
 
  Eicar-Test-Signature was moved to daily.cvd to let us update it
  later(because currently it causes FPs with some files), resulting in
  a short absence.
 
 I'm confused.  If you have to change it, why not change main.cvd once,
 
 rather than changing main.cvd to remove it then again to put it back? 

Because main.cvd only contains stable (and older than 2 weeks)
signatures.

 I guess it goes without saying (but I will anyway) that changing
 things in a way that doesn't cause clamdwatch.pl to fail would be
 greatly appreciated.  (Imagine lots of scared little sysadmins trying

Today's update was a special case.

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