Re: Parse SQL with Clojure?
On Friday, May 4, 2012 4:56:03 AM UTC+3, dirtyvagabond wrote: Anyone know of a Clojure library to parse SQL statements? If not, would it be sane to build one using parsec? if there is no Clojure lib, you always may use Java lib. i relatively successfully tried : http://jsqlparser.sourceforge.net/ other variants zql, part of Apache Derby http://db.apache.org/derby/ and smth - were not usefull or hard to adopt. see sql parser java questions on stackoverflow.com -- zmi la -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Clojurescript One getting started problem
What browser are you using? I don't think browser-repl works in IE at the moment. -- Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Clojurescript One getting started problem
Hmm wasn't aware of that if true. Should definitely open up a ticket for
that.
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What browser are you using? I don't think browser-repl works in IE at the
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Re: Reducers
I can describe the background to understand my last email. From the programming point of view, I have been told since yesterday that what I explained has already been explained better in Stream Fusion From Lists to Streams to Nothing at All from Coutts Leschinskiy and Stewart: metagraph.org/papers/stream_fusion.pdf The article is very clear if you can get used to the strange Haskell syntax and its lack of brackets. off-topic From the cultural/theoritical point of view, there is quite well understood link between data-structures and some categorical structures. ( I try stay informal and put fancy names and link to definitions inside brackets ) Types of finite recursive data structures (think of a list) are defined by being the smallest solution to an equation like List = 1 + Any x List. Here 1 means the type that contains only nil, Any means the type of anything, x corresponds to a pair and + to a choice. So this reads: a list is either nil or a pair of anything and another list. Being the smallest solution means that it contains only finite data-structures. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initial_algebra ) An element of such a type is characterised by how they can be reduced/folded. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catamorphism ) fold: forall A, List - ((1 + Any x Acc) - Acc) - Acc Meaning that there is a one to one mapping between lists and functions of type: forall Acc, ((1 + Any x Acc) - Acc) - Acc This is the type of #(reduce _ l): you give it a function that takes either no arguments and give you an initial Accumulator or take an element of the list and and the last Accumulator and returns a new Accumulator, and it returns the last Accumulators. This one to one correspondence can be seen as (reduce _ l) in one direction and #(_ (fn [p] (and p (apply cons p))) in the other direction. This definition of lists (as functions) has been used in programming languages without data constructors. ( System F for example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_F ). If you look to infinite data structures, like Streams, they are the biggest solutions of similar equations: Stream = 1 + Any x Stream (if you accept a Stream can finish early) They are dual (which means you invert all arrows in all definitions) to Lists. ( see Final Coalgebra in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initial_algebra ) A stream is characterised as how it is unfolded/generated. unfold : forall B, (B - 1 + Any x B) - B - Stream (See how the arrows are reversed with respect to fold) And so they are in one to one correspondence with : exists Seed, (Seed x (Seed - 1 + Any x Seed)) Which means any Stream can be defined as a Seed, of a given type Seed that you can choose freely, and a way to grow from the seed, a function grow that takes a Seed and tells you: - either that the Stream is finished - or the first element of the Stream and the Seed for the rest of the Stream. For example the stream of even natural numbers can be seen as the seed 0 together with a function grow = (fn [ seed ] [ seed (+ seed 2) ]), saying that first element is equal to the seed and the rest of the stream is the one defined by a seed = seed + 2 . A very good paper showing this style of programming, and more, is : http://eprints.eemcs.utwente.nl/7281/01/db-utwente-40501F46.pdf /off-topic Sorry for the long off-topic. Best regards, Nicolas. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Some reflections about programming after Clojure exposure (yay - it rhymes!)
Hello group,- I've been getting into the Clojure / Lisp territory slowly for the past few months. When learning a new language, I get the most out of first comprehending the general design principles and philosophy, and then working down to concrete code. What's funny is that appreciating Clojure-style programming has had an immediate effect in the way I program in Ruby. (I'm by no means a fluent Clojure dev yet.) Here are some thoughts about this transformation of programming style: http://jamesabbottdd.com/programming/lisp-and-brain-neurochemistry Feedback most welcome. Cheers, James -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Some reflections about programming after Clojure exposure (yay - it rhymes!)
Good article, thanks for sharing! An interesting angle to ponder is how Lisp and the Human Mind share linked lists as a basic data structure. Remember how you had memorized the ABC? FP taught me how you can also build other data structures out of linked lists, skip lists anyone? Now take a look at the steps your mind takes, when finding the successor of a particular letter in the alphabet :) cheers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
ClojureScript release 0.0-1211
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Re: Clojurescript One getting started problem
Good to hear.
On Thursday, May 10, 2012, David Powell wrote:
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:44 AM, David Nolen
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Hmm wasn't aware of that if true. Should definitely open up a ticket for
that.
Hmm the latest version seems to work on IE9 at least. I had trouble with
it in the past though. I think the latest change to serve the page from
the browser-repl server might have fixed things actually - I don't think IE
liked talking cross domain between file:// and http:// before.
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Getting started
Hi, I have downloaded and unzipped Clojure 1.4.0 but when trying java -cp clojure-1.4.0.jar clojure.main as stated on the getting started page I get the following. D:\Profiles\rcarthur\My Documents\Clojure1_4\clojure-1.4.0java -cp clojure-1.4.0.jar clojure.main Exception in thread main java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: clojure/ main Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: clojure.main at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:200) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:188) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:307) at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java: 301) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:252) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java: 320) Could not find the main class: clojure.main. Program will exit. Any clues as to what I might be doing wrong? Regards -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
[ANN] clojure-script for NodeJS
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Re: Reducers
I'm with you Christian, maybe a code example would be very helpful. Thank you guys, Nico 2012/5/10 Christian Romney xmlb...@gmail.com I would be indebted to you if you could point me in the direction of the reading material necessary to follow this discussion. I'm afraid I'm currently out of my depth, but very eager to understand. Sincerely, Christian Romney -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Clojure.java.jdbc alias
I'm working with leiningen for the first time and trying to use clojure.java.jdbc. All the docs I see use 'sql' before the jdbc commands. How do I set up the sql symbol. Nothing I've tried seems to work. Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: [ANN] clojure-script for NodeJS
Looks neat. Any reason to call the module clojure-script instead of just clojurescript? David On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:38 AM, Michael Bradley, Jr. michaelsbradle...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for folks to help me kick the tires and push this project forward: https://github.com/michaelsbradleyjr/node-clojurescript http://search.npmjs.org/#/clojure-script -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: [ANN] clojure-script for NodeJS
Just gave it a shot, works! Would be nice if it gave some feedback that it was compiling / recompiling. David On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:38 AM, Michael Bradley, Jr. michaelsbradle...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for folks to help me kick the tires and push this project forward: https://github.com/michaelsbradleyjr/node-clojurescript http://search.npmjs.org/#/clojure-script -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: {ANN} Clojure-control 0.3.4 released
*A new release 0.3.5:* --Now you can run a task with user@host rather than a pre-defined cluster by: lein control run user@host task args *Upgrade:* lein plugin install control 0.3.5 2012/5/10 dennis zhuang killme2...@gmail.com Clojure-control: a clojure DSL for system admin and deployment with many remote machines via ssh Usage: https://github.com/killme2008/clojure-control *Release 0.3.4* - New function (local cmd) to execute command on local machine : (local tar zcvf app.tar.gz app/) - Custer name could be a symbol rather than keyword - (set-options!) now could accept several options: (set-options! :user deploy :parallel true) - New function (clear-options!) to clear global options. - Using host and user of cluster in task by host and user : (deftask test [] (println (str user @ host))) * * *Upgrade:* lein plugin install control 0.3.4 -- 庄晓丹 Email:killme2...@gmail.com xzhu...@avos.com Site: http://fnil.net Twitter: @killme2008 -- 庄晓丹 Email:killme2...@gmail.com xzhu...@avos.com Site: http://fnil.net Twitter: @killme2008 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Clojure.java.jdbc alias
If you are working from the repl, use: (require '[clojure.java.jdbc :as sql]) Or use a similar require declaration in your ns header. (ns example.whatever (:require [clojure.java.jdbc :as sql])) -- Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: [ANN] The Kiln, an Evaulation Strategy for Insanely Complex Functions
Hi Jeff,
What do you think about a Map interface for this?
I recently implemented something similar in a project of mine, which I
called an 'evaluating-map'. It's not a Web project, but the pattern is a
general one. In my case, a DSL for specifying a job to run. I want the
DSL writer to have access to a lot of data/logic which can come from a lot
of different sources (a big ball of mud to use your term).
Like you, the mud-ball could contain values or functions. These functions
can have references to other values in the ball of mud. I expanded this
to include interpolated strings (e.g. foo is ${foo}) and collections of
values/Strings/functions which are handled recursively. My code doesn't do
anything to manage state, although users are encouraged to provide memoized
functions and a helper is provided to assist with this.
Here's an example comparable to your example from the Kiln project.
(def m
{:request foo
:uri #(build-uri (:request %)) ; an anonymous function works, or
:path (lfn [uri] (.getPath uri)) ; use lfn, a helper that returns a fn
:dispatch
(lfn [path] (condp = path
/remove-user :remove-user
/add-user :add-user
/view-user :view-user))
:action! action ; assuming action is defn'ed elsewhere
... and so on ... })
lfn is the helper that I mentioned-- it pulls it's args as keys from the
ball-of-mud and returns a memoized fn of those args.
Eventually, you fire it. Like Kiln, the concept is that you have a bunch
of code that sets it up and then at some point you mix in a few seed values
and kick it off. My fire function does a bunch of other stuff, but the
relevant part boils down to (- m (assoc :request req) evaluating-map),
which is used like this:
(let [k (- m (assoc :request req) evaluating-map)
result (try
(:action! k)
(render-template (:template k) ...other kiln data...)
... catch)]
; because it's a Map, you can do things like
(log/debug (select-keys k [:uri :path]))
result)
I didn't write support for glazes and cleanup. I think glazes could be
done ring-style. Cleanup requires some extra thought. Those are nice
features of Kiln.
I think Kiln gives you more control over the execution and state, making
things like cleanup easy. What I like about the Map interface, aside from
the convenience of being able to use standard collection functions (merge,
select-keys, dissoc, etc) is that you can construct the map from many
different sources. I.e. you can merge maps which are constructed
dynamically at different points in your flow. This was important for my
use-case, since DSL users are writing code that my core code knows nothing
about. Using the example above, a subsequent user could replace the :uri
fn:
(merge m {:uri (lfn [request] (some-other-build-fn request))})
This new function would then be the input for the :path function.
My code for this abstraction isn't isolated, but you can see it in context
of another project
herehttps://github.com/TheClimateCorporation/lemur/blob/master/src/main/clj/lemur/evaluating_map.clj
.
Anyway, I like the project and thanks for sharing it.
Marc
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Jeffrey Straszheim jstra...@akamai.comwrote:
The Kiln is an evaluation strategy for insanely complex functions. It was
designed based on two things: my experience with managing several large,
complex, ever-changing web applications in Clojure, and my experience in
dataflow approaches to modelling.
I have released version 1.0.0 on Clojars. Also, there is quite a bit of
documentation and explanation on the project Github page, including a full
sample application presented in a somewhat “literate” style.
Please take a look.
http://github.com/straszheimjeffrey/The-Kiln
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Re: Getting started
On 05/10/2012 03:53 AM, Zeno wrote: trying java -cp clojure-1.4.0.jar clojure.main as stated You need to specify the full path to clojure.jar (probably ./clojure.jar, if you're in that directory). You could also put . in your classpath, but that's not recommended (can cause flakey problems down the road). Tom. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Some reflections about programming after Clojure exposure (yay - it rhymes!)
Thanks for the feedback. An interesting angle to ponder is how Lisp and the Human Mind share linked lists as a basic data structure. Remember how you had memorized the ABC? That's true - even though my recollection of the alphabet is patchy, letters always occur in groupings. Specifically, 'ABC', 'PQR', 'MN', and 'XYZ' seem to stand out immediately. Possibly because they are often used as math variables. When trying to recollect a position of a different letter than those my brain does a 'neighborhood search' (linked lists)! FP taught me how you can also build other data structures out of linked lists, skip lists anyone? This one could easily become a theme for a separate blog entry. I've come to the shocking realization that Computer Science education has this thing backwards. Sure, they encourage modularity and composability when it comes to OO programming. Some enlightened souls might mention the Unix philosophy of small components, loosely coupled (short, focused functions, etc). But no-one in the world talks about data structure composability! Yet data structures are lower in the complexity hierarchy than objects. If being compos-able is a virtue in programming, why not start at the lower levels and demonstrate how basic data structures can produce more complex ones? The CompSci books are even worse - they jump straight ahead into the Abstract Data Type, so they lead with generalization and leave the details blurred. You really have to become a member of a semi-underground programming community to see the light here. Incredible. Cheers, James On May 10, 2:46 pm, Herwig Hochleitner hhochleit...@gmail.com wrote: Good article, thanks for sharing! An interesting angle to ponder is how Lisp and the Human Mind share linked lists as a basic data structure. Remember how you had memorized the ABC? FP taught me how you can also build other data structures out of linked lists, skip lists anyone? Now take a look at the steps your mind takes, when finding the successor of a particular letter in the alphabet :) cheers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: [ANN] clojure-script for NodeJS
Four reasons, all interrelated. Whether they're good reasons, I'm not 100% positive, but felt this was the way to go: *1.* The coffee-script package on npm is one of my favorites, and was the inspiration for my clojure-script package. Thus, I wanted the package names to resemble one another. *2. *The npm package and the language it facilitates are two different things. So that way someone can say, I'm having an issue with clojure-script, and mean they're having trouble with my package and not with the language itself. *3.* From its early days, the npm registry only supports lower case package names, e.g. no camel case. So putting a - between coffee and script makes the coffee pop out in the text-heavy pages of the npm website. The same goes for clojure-script. *4. *I felt weird about calling my GitHub repository michaelsbradleyjr/clojurescript, since it's really a distinct project from ClojureScript the language. So I named it node-clojurescript. However, it's officially not recommended to npm-publish packages with names that include the word node, since that' redundant. But for the same reasons I didn't want to name my repository clojurescript, I chose a package name that would implicitly indicate that clojure-script is a distinct entity from ClojureScript the language. On Thursday, May 10, 2012 8:55:52 AM UTC-5, David Nolen wrote: Looks neat. Any reason to call the module clojure-script instead of just clojurescript? David On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:38 AM, Michael Bradley, Jr. michaelsbradle...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for folks to help me kick the tires and push this project forward: https://github.com/michaelsbradleyjr/node-clojurescript http://search.npmjs.org/#/clojure-script snip -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: [ANN] clojure-script for NodeJS
Sure, maybe a spinner or something like that. However, many use cases would exclude displaying such an indicator, e.g. if you're sending the compiled text to stdout, running a .cljs script directly or some other script that uses Node's `require` to load a .cljs script, etc. That is, in those cases it probably wouldn't be appropriate to send extra stuff to stdout or stderr, because the developer may expect to have exclusive control over them. But when using ncljsc's -c / --compile flag, perhaps together with the -w / --watch and -W / --watch-deps flags, then it would make sense to have a busy compiling indicator. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll definitely look into it. On Thursday, May 10, 2012 8:58:33 AM UTC-5, David Nolen wrote: Just gave it a shot, works! Would be nice if it gave some feedback that it was compiling / recompiling. David On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:38 AM, Michael Bradley, Jr. michaelsbradle...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for folks to help me kick the tires and push this project forward: https://github.com/michaelsbradleyjr/node-clojurescript http://search.npmjs.org/#/clojure-script -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: The Kiln, an Evaulation Strategy for Insanely Complex Functions
Marc,
Nicely done! I've done something similar before as well.
This was basically my point earlier: Dispatch tables (and maps in
general), unification, and closures seem to solve the same problem,
are composable, don't introduce nouns/types/metaphors, are open for
extension and closed for modification, and if crafted well, can be
shipped around to any reader. Using RabbitMQ and Clojure as my data
format, I can easily create loosely coupled, highly cohesive services
that can be replicated, redundant, etc.
I think the project looks interesting, but the benefits, tradeoffs,
and design decisions aren't clear to me.
Paul
On May 10, 11:11 am, Marc Limotte mslimo...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Jeff,
What do you think about a Map interface for this?
I recently implemented something similar in a project of mine, which I
called an 'evaluating-map'. It's not a Web project, but the pattern is a
general one. In my case, a DSL for specifying a job to run. I want the
DSL writer to have access to a lot of data/logic which can come from a lot
of different sources (a big ball of mud to use your term).
Like you, the mud-ball could contain values or functions. These functions
can have references to other values in the ball of mud. I expanded this
to include interpolated strings (e.g. foo is ${foo}) and collections of
values/Strings/functions which are handled recursively. My code doesn't do
anything to manage state, although users are encouraged to provide memoized
functions and a helper is provided to assist with this.
Here's an example comparable to your example from the Kiln project.
(def m
{:request foo
:uri #(build-uri (:request %)) ; an anonymous function works, or
:path (lfn [uri] (.getPath uri)) ; use lfn, a helper that returns a fn
:dispatch
(lfn [path] (condp = path
/remove-user :remove-user
/add-user :add-user
/view-user :view-user))
:action! action ; assuming action is defn'ed elsewhere
... and so on ... })
lfn is the helper that I mentioned-- it pulls it's args as keys from the
ball-of-mud and returns a memoized fn of those args.
Eventually, you fire it. Like Kiln, the concept is that you have a bunch
of code that sets it up and then at some point you mix in a few seed values
and kick it off. My fire function does a bunch of other stuff, but the
relevant part boils down to (- m (assoc :request req) evaluating-map),
which is used like this:
(let [k (- m (assoc :request req) evaluating-map)
result (try
(:action! k)
(render-template (:template k) ...other kiln data...)
... catch)]
; because it's a Map, you can do things like
(log/debug (select-keys k [:uri :path]))
result)
I didn't write support for glazes and cleanup. I think glazes could be
done ring-style. Cleanup requires some extra thought. Those are nice
features of Kiln.
I think Kiln gives you more control over the execution and state, making
things like cleanup easy. What I like about the Map interface, aside from
the convenience of being able to use standard collection functions (merge,
select-keys, dissoc, etc) is that you can construct the map from many
different sources. I.e. you can merge maps which are constructed
dynamically at different points in your flow. This was important for my
use-case, since DSL users are writing code that my core code knows nothing
about. Using the example above, a subsequent user could replace the :uri
fn:
(merge m {:uri (lfn [request] (some-other-build-fn request))})
This new function would then be the input for the :path function.
My code for this abstraction isn't isolated, but you can see it in context
of another project
herehttps://github.com/TheClimateCorporation/lemur/blob/master/src/main/c...
.
Anyway, I like the project and thanks for sharing it.
Marc
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Jeffrey Straszheim jstra...@akamai.comwrote:
The Kiln is an evaluation strategy for insanely complex functions. It was
designed based on two things: my experience with managing several large,
complex, ever-changing web applications in Clojure, and my experience in
dataflow approaches to modelling.
I have released version 1.0.0 on Clojars. Also, there is quite a bit of
documentation and explanation on the project Github page, including a full
sample application presented in a somewhat “literate” style.
Please take a look.
http://github.com/straszheimjeffrey/The-Kiln
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Re: Reducers
On Thursday, May 10, 2012 8:02:09 AM UTC-4, Nicolas Oury wrote: I can describe the background to understand my last email. Thank you very much for taking the time to post all of that–I've got some reading to do for sure. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Getting started
Also you generally don't invoke the clojure jar directly. Instead have lein do that for you. http://www.unexpected-vortices.com/clojure/brief-beginners-guide/development-env.html#clojure-projects On Thursday, May 10, 2012 4:53:51 AM UTC-4, Zeno wrote: Hi, I have downloaded and unzipped Clojure 1.4.0 but when trying java -cp clojure-1.4.0.jar clojure.main as stated on the getting started page I get the following. D:\Profiles\rcarthur\My Documents\Clojure1_4\clojure-1.4.0java -cp clojure-1.4.0.jar clojure.main Exception in thread main java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: clojure/ main Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: clojure.main at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:200) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:188) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:307) at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java: 301) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:252) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java: 320) Could not find the main class: clojure.main. Program will exit. Any clues as to what I might be doing wrong? Regards -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
[ANN] Clojure/core Roadshow
Clojure/core wants to take our training course on the road this summer! We are looking for the cities that are the most interested in learning more about Clojure so we can bring our training there. I've posted more details about the roadshow on our blog, at: http://clojure.com/blog/2012/05/07/clojure-core-roadshow.html One particular point - If your organization is interested in having us do some training but don't have enough students to warrant a private training, let's talk about how we can partner to bring an open training to your area and get some interest from the local community. This is also true for user groups that are interested in bringing this kind of training to their city. We're going to kick things off with an initial training in Durham, NC on June 26th - June 29th. Go to http://roadshow.clojure.com/durham.html to learn more about and register for this class. The actual site where you can register your interest in training is at: http://clojure.com/roadshow Hope to see you on the road! Christopher Clojure/core -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: {ANN} Clojure-control 0.3.4 released
I took the steps from your README.md and it seems like something's
missing :( see below
Bost
bost@bost-desktop:~/dev$ rm -rf mycontrol/
bost@bost-desktop:~/dev$ lein1 version
Leiningen 1.7.1 on Java 1.7.0_04 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
bost@bost-desktop:~/dev$ lein1 plugin install control 0.3.5
[INFO] Unable to find resource 'control:control:jar:0.3.5' in
repository central (http://repo1.maven.org/maven2)
Installing shell wrapper to /home/bost/.lein/bin/clojure-control
Copying 2 files to /tmp/lein-f0119cb7-6660-4181-aeed-149113f38fc1/lib
Including control-0.3.5.jar
Including clojure-1.3.0.jar
Including tools.cli-0.2.1.jar
Created control-0.3.5.jar
bost@bost-desktop:~/dev$ lein1 new mycontrol
Created new project in: /home/bost/dev/mycontrol
Look over project.clj and start coding in mycontrol/core.clj
bost@bost-desktop:~/dev$ cd mycontrol/
bost@bost-desktop:~/dev/mycontrol$ lein1 control init
bost@bost-desktop:~/dev/mycontrol$ cat
classes/ control.clj .gitignore project.clj README src/
test/
bost@bost-desktop:~/dev/mycontrol$ cat control.clj
(defcluster :default-cluster
:clients [
{:host localhost :user root}
])
(deftask :date echo date on cluster []
(ssh date))
bost@bost-desktop:~/dev/mycontrol$ lein1 control run default-cluster date
Empty hosts for cluster default-cluster
Exception in thread main java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:57)
at
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:601)
at jline.ConsoleRunner.main(ConsoleRunner.java:69)
Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Empty hosts for cluster
default-cluster (NO_SOURCE_FILE:0)
at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:5440)
at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:5391)
at clojure.core$eval.invoke(core.clj:2382)
at clojure.main$eval_opt.invoke(main.clj:235)
at clojure.main$initialize.invoke(main.clj:254)
at clojure.main$script_opt.invoke(main.clj:270)
at clojure.main$main.doInvoke(main.clj:354)
at clojure.lang.RestFn.invoke(RestFn.java:551)
at clojure.lang.Var.invoke(Var.java:390)
at clojure.lang.AFn.applyToHelper(AFn.java:193)
at clojure.lang.Var.applyTo(Var.java:482)
at clojure.main.main(main.java:37)
... 5 more
Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Empty hosts for cluster default-cluster
at control.core$do_begin.invoke(core.clj:353)
at leiningen.control$run_control.invoke(control.clj:30)
at leiningen.control$run.doInvoke(control.clj:97)
at clojure.lang.RestFn.applyTo(RestFn.java:139)
at clojure.core$apply.invoke(core.clj:542)
at leiningen.control$control.doInvoke(control.clj:136)
at clojure.lang.RestFn.invoke(RestFn.java:464)
at clojure.lang.Var.invoke(Var.java:377)
at clojure.lang.AFn.applyToHelper(AFn.java:172)
at clojure.lang.Var.applyTo(Var.java:482)
at clojure.core$apply.invoke(core.clj:542)
at leiningen.core$apply_task.invoke(core.clj:262)
at leiningen.core$_main.doInvoke(core.clj:329)
at clojure.lang.RestFn.applyTo(RestFn.java:139)
at clojure.core$apply.invoke(core.clj:542)
at leiningen.core$_main.invoke(core.clj:332)
at user$eval42.invoke(NO_SOURCE_FILE:1)
at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:5424)
... 16 more
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Partitioning a list when the result of a predicate becomes a certain value.
Hi all, I am battering my head against the following problem which I'm sure is straightforward if only I knew how. I want to partition the following list: '(aa123 x y z bb123 ccq23 3 yg) into the following: ((aa123 x y z) (bb123) (ccq23 3 yg)) The predicate is: #(re-matches #^(\w)\1.* %) partition-by doesn't work, since it splits the sequence when the result of applying the predicate changes. I want to partition when the predicate becomes a particular value. Any clues on how to accomplish this would be gratefully received! Thanks, Anthony. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
How do I modify the clojure.org website?
I put an issue [clj-989] about an out of date link clojure. It doesn't seem like anyone payed any attention to it yet. Is there a way I can be more active in making these changes such as having permission to modify the website? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Partitioning a list when the result of a predicate becomes a certain value.
After posting, I had the idea of checking out the source for partition- by, and solved the problem: (defn partition-when Applies f to each value in coll, splitting it each time f returns the specified value. Returns a lazy seq of partitions. [f value coll] (lazy-seq (when-let [s (seq coll)] (let [run (cons (first s) (take-while #(not= value (f %)) (next s)))] (cons run (partition-when f value (seq (drop (count run) s ) ) ) ) So, I can see basically how this function works, but am not sure what the when-let gives you. Could someone explain? The documentation makes no sense to me at the moment: (when-let bindings body) bindings = binding-form test When test is true, evaluates body with binding-form bound to the value of test What test? Thanks, Anthony. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Partitioning a list when the result of a predicate becomes a certain value.
(when-let [s (seq coll)] (let [run (cons (first s) (take-while #(not= value (f %)) (next s)))] (cons run (partition-when f value (seq (drop (count run) s ) ) ) ) ... What test? (seq coll) is the test here. when-let (and if-let, etc) bind only when the right hand side is truthy. (when-let [x true] (println this prints)) (when-let [x false] (println this does not print)) It's a common shortcut for: (let [x (something-something)] (when x )) jack. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Partitioning a list when the result of a predicate becomes a certain value.
(seq coll) is the test, if the collection is empty seq returns nil, hence nothing gets done in the (let ...) form. Luc After posting, I had the idea of checking out the source for partition- by, and solved the problem: (defn partition-when Applies f to each value in coll, splitting it each time f returns the specified value. Returns a lazy seq of partitions. [f value coll] (lazy-seq (when-let [s (seq coll)] (let [run (cons (first s) (take-while #(not= value (f %)) (next s)))] (cons run (partition-when f value (seq (drop (count run) s ) ) ) ) So, I can see basically how this function works, but am not sure what the when-let gives you. Could someone explain? The documentation makes no sense to me at the moment: (when-let bindings body) bindings = binding-form test When test is true, evaluates body with binding-form bound to the value of test What test? Thanks, Anthony. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- Softaddictslprefonta...@softaddicts.ca sent by ibisMail from my ipad! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Partitioning a list when the result of a predicate becomes a certain value.
https://github.com/flatland/useful/blob/develop/src/useful/seq.clj#L189 is a more general version of partition-by, which can easily handle your requirements. On May 10, 2:11 pm, Ant ant...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am battering my head against the following problem which I'm sure is straightforward if only I knew how. I want to partition the following list: '(aa123 x y z bb123 ccq23 3 yg) into the following: ((aa123 x y z) (bb123) (ccq23 3 yg)) The predicate is: #(re-matches #^(\w)\1.* %) partition-by doesn't work, since it splits the sequence when the result of applying the predicate changes. I want to partition when the predicate becomes a particular value. Any clues on how to accomplish this would be gratefully received! Thanks, Anthony. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Partitioning a list when the result of a predicate becomes a certain value.
On May 10, 3:19 pm, Jack Moffitt j...@metajack.im wrote: (when-let [s (seq coll)] (let [run (cons (first s) (take-while #(not= value (f %)) (next s)))] (cons run (partition-when f value (seq (drop (count run) s ) ) ) ) ... What test? (seq coll) is the test here. when-let (and if-let, etc) bind only when the right hand side is truthy. (when-let [x true] (println this prints)) (when-let [x false] (println this does not print)) It's a common shortcut for: (let [x (something-something)] (when x )) Not quite true in the general case, though. Consider (let [x 1] (if-let [x foo] x ;; should be foo x)) ;; should be 1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
[ANN] clojure.java.jdbc 0.2.1 on Maven Central
A minor update that includes a performance tweak for large result sets (thank you Jürgen Hötzel) and a small API change - exposing do-prepared-return-keys - to make life easier for the Korma team. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/ Perfection is the enemy of the good. -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Reducers
IMO, Nicolas' material is a distraction in understanding reducers, except as historical background. The reducers library is a rejection/avoidance of the primacy of recursively/generatively defined data structures and the operations thereon. I recommend, rather than reading about stream fusion, one watches the Guy Steele presentation linked from the post: Organizing Functional Code for Parallel Execution or, foldl and foldr Considered Slightly Harmful: http://vimeo.com/6624203 Which boils down to - stop programming with streams, lists, generators etc if you intend to exploit parallelism, which the reducers library does. Rich On May 10, 2012, at 1:26 PM, Christian Romney wrote: On Thursday, May 10, 2012 8:02:09 AM UTC-4, Nicolas Oury wrote: I can describe the background to understand my last email. Thank you very much for taking the time to post all of that–I've got some reading to do for sure. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Getting started
On 10 May 2012 19:57, Chris McBride cmm7...@gmail.com wrote: Also you generally don't invoke the clojure jar directly. Instead have lein do that for you. http://www.unexpected-vortices.com/clojure/brief-beginners-guide/development-env.html#clojure-projects No, please stop. Zeno, you MUST get the java -cp clojure-1.4.0.jar clojure.main working! It is the very core the life and the universe. If this does not work your system is completely broken and nothing can be relied upon. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: {ANN} Clojure-control 0.3.4 released
I am sorry, 0.3.5 will break the example with only :clients in cluster.
I've push 0.3.6 to clojars, upgrade control by:
lein plugin install control 0.3.6
Sorry for this issue,thanks.
2012/5/11 Rostislav Svoboda rostislav.svob...@gmail.com
I took the steps from your README.md and it seems like something's
missing :( see below
Bost
bost@bost-desktop:~/dev$ rm -rf mycontrol/
bost@bost-desktop:~/dev$ lein1 version
Leiningen 1.7.1 on Java 1.7.0_04 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
bost@bost-desktop:~/dev$ lein1 plugin install control 0.3.5
[INFO] Unable to find resource 'control:control:jar:0.3.5' in
repository central (http://repo1.maven.org/maven2)
Installing shell wrapper to /home/bost/.lein/bin/clojure-control
Copying 2 files to /tmp/lein-f0119cb7-6660-4181-aeed-149113f38fc1/lib
Including control-0.3.5.jar
Including clojure-1.3.0.jar
Including tools.cli-0.2.1.jar
Created control-0.3.5.jar
bost@bost-desktop:~/dev$ lein1 new mycontrol
Created new project in: /home/bost/dev/mycontrol
Look over project.clj and start coding in mycontrol/core.clj
bost@bost-desktop:~/dev$ cd mycontrol/
bost@bost-desktop:~/dev/mycontrol$ lein1 control init
bost@bost-desktop:~/dev/mycontrol$ cat
classes/ control.clj .gitignore project.clj README src/
test/
bost@bost-desktop:~/dev/mycontrol$ cat control.clj
(defcluster :default-cluster
:clients [
{:host localhost :user root}
])
(deftask :date echo date on cluster []
(ssh date))
bost@bost-desktop:~/dev/mycontrol$ lein1 control run default-cluster date
Empty hosts for cluster default-cluster
Exception in thread main java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:57)
at
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:601)
at jline.ConsoleRunner.main(ConsoleRunner.java:69)
Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Empty hosts for cluster
default-cluster (NO_SOURCE_FILE:0)
at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:5440)
at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:5391)
at clojure.core$eval.invoke(core.clj:2382)
at clojure.main$eval_opt.invoke(main.clj:235)
at clojure.main$initialize.invoke(main.clj:254)
at clojure.main$script_opt.invoke(main.clj:270)
at clojure.main$main.doInvoke(main.clj:354)
at clojure.lang.RestFn.invoke(RestFn.java:551)
at clojure.lang.Var.invoke(Var.java:390)
at clojure.lang.AFn.applyToHelper(AFn.java:193)
at clojure.lang.Var.applyTo(Var.java:482)
at clojure.main.main(main.java:37)
... 5 more
Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Empty hosts for cluster
default-cluster
at control.core$do_begin.invoke(core.clj:353)
at leiningen.control$run_control.invoke(control.clj:30)
at leiningen.control$run.doInvoke(control.clj:97)
at clojure.lang.RestFn.applyTo(RestFn.java:139)
at clojure.core$apply.invoke(core.clj:542)
at leiningen.control$control.doInvoke(control.clj:136)
at clojure.lang.RestFn.invoke(RestFn.java:464)
at clojure.lang.Var.invoke(Var.java:377)
at clojure.lang.AFn.applyToHelper(AFn.java:172)
at clojure.lang.Var.applyTo(Var.java:482)
at clojure.core$apply.invoke(core.clj:542)
at leiningen.core$apply_task.invoke(core.clj:262)
at leiningen.core$_main.doInvoke(core.clj:329)
at clojure.lang.RestFn.applyTo(RestFn.java:139)
at clojure.core$apply.invoke(core.clj:542)
at leiningen.core$_main.invoke(core.clj:332)
at user$eval42.invoke(NO_SOURCE_FILE:1)
at clojure.lang.Compiler.eval(Compiler.java:5424)
... 16 more
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Re: How do I modify the clojure.org website?
I updated the link for you. On Thursday, May 10, 2012 5:03:26 PM UTC-5, Brent Millare wrote: I put an issue [clj-989] about an out of date link clojure. It doesn't seem like anyone payed any attention to it yet. Is there a way I can be more active in making these changes such as having permission to modify the website? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Getting started
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Rostislav Svoboda rostislav.svob...@gmail.com wrote: No, please stop. Zeno, you MUST get the java -cp clojure-1.4.0.jar clojure.main working! It is the very core the life and the universe. I'm sorry but that's a silly comment. Starting with Leiningen instead of downloading the Clojure JAR file would save the vast majority of folks a lot of pain when they first get started with Clojure. Why force them to wrestle with Java classpath issues if they don't have a Java background? (or were you being sarcastic?) -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/ Perfection is the enemy of the good. -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
