Re: Addition of new a priori distinct element to a vector

2011-09-23 Thread F Lengyel

On Sep 23, 1:39 am, Nathan Sorenson n...@sfu.ca wrote:
 Just to clarify, you want to conj a vector to itself? i.e. [1 2 3 4] -- [1
 2 3 4 [1 2 3 4]] I'm curious what the application of this is.

 Regarding the overhead of conj-ing to a vector: Clojure's data structures
 make use of structural sharing so conjoining an element to the end of a
 vector won't require any copying of entire vectors. It's a cheap,
 constant(ish) time operation.


Good: (conj v v) is O(1) in time and space, and appends an element
distinct from the preceding elements (if any). I meant to add that
querying
the vector is not allowed. The reason is to use reduce in situations
where
some data structure is created based on a previous and current
element. If the last element is guaranteed to be different from those
preceding it, then an edge case is eliminated (or rather, encoded into
the sequence at minimal cost).

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Re: Addition of new a priori distinct element to a vector

2011-09-23 Thread F Lengyel


On Sep 23, 2:18 am, Andy Fingerhut andy.finger...@gmail.com wrote:
 To be very precise, (conj v new-elem) is O(log n) in time and space, but it
 is constant-ish because the base of the logarithm is something like 32,
 rather than something like 2, so the constant factor multiplying the log n
 is typically pretty small.

OK, thanks.

 Also, there is no difference in Clojure's behavior in this case whether the
 new element is different than all elements previously conj'd onto the
 vector.

Nor did I imply or suggest that it would be different.

FL


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Re: Addition of new a priori distinct element to a vector

2011-09-23 Thread F Lengyel


On Sep 23, 2:20 am, Kevin Livingston
kevinlivingston.pub...@gmail.com wrote:
 what's the actual use case where you want this?
 it seems pretty weird just on it's own.  it may in practice be more
 clever than other solutions, but that's not clear yet.  if you just
 want a unique symbol there's (gensym)

For the sake of illustration, this function will chunk a vector into
vectors of identical elements, in order (no assurance that it won't
be weird in context):

 (defn grp [s]
(- (reduce
 (fn [[v chunk] elt]
 (if (or (empty? chunk) (= elt (first chunk)))
 [v (conj chunk elt)]
 [(conj v chunk) [elt]]))
 [[][]] (conj s s))
(first)))

user (grp [])
[]
user (grp [1 2 3 2 2 3])
[[1] [2] [3] [2 2] [3]]
user (grp [1 1 4 4 4])
[[1 1] [4 4 4]]
user

 regarding vectors, I found this a helpful read a while back, it's a
 few years old, but I think it's still accurate, and may help you get a
 picture of what's under the 
 hood.http://blog.higher-order.net/2009/02/01/understanding-clojures-persis...

 Kevin


That's helpful, thank you.

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Addition of new a priori distinct element to a vector

2011-09-22 Thread F Lengyel
Suppose I have a vector v. I would like to add a new element to v
distinct
from all of the elements of v, with the constraint that I assume
nothing about v
other than it is a vector. (There are cases where it is useful to do
this
with  some algorithms involving reduce, for example.)  One way to do
this is
(conj v v). Is the overhead of doing this in clojure the addition of
a
pointer (of some kind) to v, or is it something else?

Thanks.

F Lengyel

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