Re: Clojure + BDD + TDD + Pairing...
Yes I think replica driven development is sctualy TDD :) they probuably didnt call it that back in the good old lisp days. Its funny how some praktises from 20 years ago are comming back and everyone pretends like its the newest trendy stuffLEAN, LISP :) I use emac how would we do pairprogramming? I would love to try, we could do the clojure koans, maybe ? On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 4:45:32 PM UTC+1, Jason Felice wrote: I do TDD, even with my clojure (combined with repl-driven development). BDD, however, doesn't make a lot of sense in clojure-land. If logic is kept to pure functions as much as possible and state management kept to the outside of the app (highly recommended), TDD becomes really fun and managable without worrying about things behaviors. (I say this knowing that there are a dozen conflicting notions of BDD.) On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Gilberto Garcia giba...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Hi Marcus, I'm also starting with Clojure and would like to find someone to pair and to study Clojure together. Best regards, Gilberto On 03/25/2014 09:50 AM, Marc Bluemner wrote: Hey Marcus, Im Marc from Germany! Im actualy learning Clojure and am trying to get good at BDD, we are trying to implement it at work so practice would be great. I must say Ive never done pair programming but Im realy eager to try. SO if you like Im absolutly open for everything. Greetings Marc Am Mittwoch, 30. Oktober 2013 04:43:54 UTC+1 schrieb Marcus Blankenship: Hi Folks, I’m a Clojure n00b, but am interested in finding another n00b who aspires to learn Clojure, and do so using BDD / TDD practices through regular pairing sessions. I’ve found novice - novice pairing to be a great way to ramp up on skills, but I don’t live near anyone who I can pair with. I’m thinking that doing 3 1-hour sessions a week, for a month, would give us a nice start. Obviously, this would be remote pairing via ScreenHero (or some other tool). Anyone interested? Best, Marcus marcus blankenship \\\ Partner, Problem Solver, Linear Thinker \\\ 541.805.2736 \ @justzeros \ skype:marcuscreo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.comjavascript: Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com javascript: For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.comjavascript: Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com javascript: For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Clojure + BDD + TDD + Pairing...
Hahahah you saved your ass there Jason :) BDD is TDD with more focus on business value and Costomer interviews. I got a copy of BDD in action but Im a reviewer so I dont realy have it ;) On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 4:45:32 PM UTC+1, Jason Felice wrote: I do TDD, even with my clojure (combined with repl-driven development). BDD, however, doesn't make a lot of sense in clojure-land. If logic is kept to pure functions as much as possible and state management kept to the outside of the app (highly recommended), TDD becomes really fun and managable without worrying about things behaviors. (I say this knowing that there are a dozen conflicting notions of BDD.) On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Gilberto Garcia giba...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Hi Marcus, I'm also starting with Clojure and would like to find someone to pair and to study Clojure together. Best regards, Gilberto On 03/25/2014 09:50 AM, Marc Bluemner wrote: Hey Marcus, Im Marc from Germany! Im actualy learning Clojure and am trying to get good at BDD, we are trying to implement it at work so practice would be great. I must say Ive never done pair programming but Im realy eager to try. SO if you like Im absolutly open for everything. Greetings Marc Am Mittwoch, 30. Oktober 2013 04:43:54 UTC+1 schrieb Marcus Blankenship: Hi Folks, I’m a Clojure n00b, but am interested in finding another n00b who aspires to learn Clojure, and do so using BDD / TDD practices through regular pairing sessions. I’ve found novice - novice pairing to be a great way to ramp up on skills, but I don’t live near anyone who I can pair with. I’m thinking that doing 3 1-hour sessions a week, for a month, would give us a nice start. Obviously, this would be remote pairing via ScreenHero (or some other tool). Anyone interested? Best, Marcus marcus blankenship \\\ Partner, Problem Solver, Linear Thinker \\\ 541.805.2736 \ @justzeros \ skype:marcuscreo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.comjavascript: Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com javascript: For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.comjavascript: Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com javascript: For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Clojure + BDD + TDD + Pairing...
I guess wie Need to Devide on a pairing method wemux oremacs or whatever else there is .I use emacs but am good with vim and tmux too. I would prefer emacs as I'm switching to it St the Moment — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Marcus Blankenship mar...@creoagency.com wrote: Hi guys, I'm glad the idea of pairing to learn is interesting to you! Any suggestions on how we proceed? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 26, 2014, at 5:23 AM, Marc Bluemner marc.bluem...@googlemail.com wrote: Hahahah you saved your ass there Jason :) BDD is TDD with more focus on business value and Costomer interviews. I got a copy of BDD in action but Im a reviewer so I dont realy have it ;) On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 4:45:32 PM UTC+1, Jason Felice wrote: I do TDD, even with my clojure (combined with repl-driven development). BDD, however, doesn't make a lot of sense in clojure-land. If logic is kept to pure functions as much as possible and state management kept to the outside of the app (highly recommended), TDD becomes really fun and managable without worrying about things behaviors. (I say this knowing that there are a dozen conflicting notions of BDD.) On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Gilberto Garcia giba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Marcus, I'm also starting with Clojure and would like to find someone to pair and to study Clojure together. Best regards, Gilberto On 03/25/2014 09:50 AM, Marc Bluemner wrote: Hey Marcus, Im Marc from Germany! Im actualy learning Clojure and am trying to get good at BDD, we are trying to implement it at work so practice would be great. I must say Ive never done pair programming but Im realy eager to try. SO if you like Im absolutly open for everything. Greetings Marc Am Mittwoch, 30. Oktober 2013 04:43:54 UTC+1 schrieb Marcus Blankenship: Hi Folks, I’m a Clojure n00b, but am interested in finding another n00b who aspires to learn Clojure, and do so using BDD / TDD practices through regular pairing sessions. I’ve found novice - novice pairing to be a great way to ramp up on skills, but I don’t live near anyone who I can pair with. I’m thinking that doing 3 1-hour sessions a week, for a month, would give us a nice start. Obviously, this would be remote pairing via ScreenHero (or some other tool). Anyone interested? Best, Marcus marcus blankenship \\\ Partner, Problem Solver, Linear Thinker \\\ 541.805.2736 \ @justzeros \ skype:marcuscreo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group
Re: Clojure + BDD + TDD + Pairing...
Hey Marcus, Im Marc from Germany! Im actualy learning Clojure and am trying to get good at BDD, we are trying to implement it at work so practice would be great. I must say Ive never done pair programming but Im realy eager to try. SO if you like Im absolutly open for everything. Greetings Marc Am Mittwoch, 30. Oktober 2013 04:43:54 UTC+1 schrieb Marcus Blankenship: Hi Folks, I’m a Clojure n00b, but am interested in finding another n00b who aspires to learn Clojure, and do so using BDD / TDD practices through regular pairing sessions. I’ve found novice - novice pairing to be a great way to ramp up on skills, but I don’t live near anyone who I can pair with. I’m thinking that doing 3 1-hour sessions a week, for a month, would give us a nice start. Obviously, this would be remote pairing via ScreenHero (or some other tool). Anyone interested? Best, Marcus marcus blankenship \\\ Partner, Problem Solver, Linear Thinker \\\ 541.805.2736 \ @justzeros \ skype:marcuscreo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.