Re: Clojure + BDD + TDD + Pairing...

2014-03-26 Thread Marc Bluemner
Yes I think replica driven development is sctualy TDD :) they probuably 
didnt call it that back in the good old lisp days. Its funny how some 
praktises from 20 years ago are comming back and everyone pretends like its 
the newest trendy stuffLEAN, LISP :)

I use emac how would we do pairprogramming? I would love to try, we could 
do the clojure koans, maybe ?

On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 4:45:32 PM UTC+1, Jason Felice wrote:

 I do TDD, even with my clojure (combined with repl-driven development). 
  BDD, however, doesn't make a lot of sense in clojure-land.  If logic is 
 kept to pure functions as much as possible and state management kept to the 
 outside of the app (highly recommended), TDD becomes really fun and 
 managable without worrying about things  behaviors.

 (I say this knowing that there are a dozen conflicting notions of BDD.)


 On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Gilberto Garcia 
 giba...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

  Hi Marcus,

 I'm also starting with Clojure and would like to find someone to pair and 
 to study Clojure together.

 Best regards,
 Gilberto



 On 03/25/2014 09:50 AM, Marc Bluemner wrote:
  
 Hey Marcus,  

  Im Marc from Germany! Im actualy learning Clojure and am trying to get 
 good at BDD, we are trying to implement it at work so practice would be 
 great. I must say Ive never done pair programming but Im realy eager to 
 try. SO if you like Im absolutly open for everything.

  Greetings Marc

 Am Mittwoch, 30. Oktober 2013 04:43:54 UTC+1 schrieb Marcus Blankenship: 

 Hi Folks, 

  I’m a Clojure n00b, but am interested in finding another n00b who 
 aspires to learn Clojure, and do so using BDD / TDD practices through 
 regular pairing sessions.  I’ve found novice - novice pairing to be a 
 great way to ramp up on skills, but I don’t live near anyone who I can pair 
 with.  

  I’m thinking that doing 3 1-hour sessions a week, for a month, would 
 give us a nice start.  Obviously, this would be remote pairing via 
 ScreenHero (or some other tool).

  Anyone interested?

  Best,
 Marcus

  
 marcus blankenship 
 \\\ Partner, Problem Solver, Linear Thinker
 \\\ 541.805.2736 \ @justzeros \ skype:marcuscreo
 
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Re: Clojure + BDD + TDD + Pairing...

2014-03-26 Thread Marc Bluemner
Hahahah you saved your ass there Jason :) BDD is TDD with more focus on 
business value and Costomer interviews. I got a copy of BDD in action but 
Im a reviewer so I dont realy have it ;)


On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 4:45:32 PM UTC+1, Jason Felice wrote:

 I do TDD, even with my clojure (combined with repl-driven development). 
  BDD, however, doesn't make a lot of sense in clojure-land.  If logic is 
 kept to pure functions as much as possible and state management kept to the 
 outside of the app (highly recommended), TDD becomes really fun and 
 managable without worrying about things  behaviors.

 (I say this knowing that there are a dozen conflicting notions of BDD.)


 On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Gilberto Garcia 
 giba...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

  Hi Marcus,

 I'm also starting with Clojure and would like to find someone to pair and 
 to study Clojure together.

 Best regards,
 Gilberto



 On 03/25/2014 09:50 AM, Marc Bluemner wrote:
  
 Hey Marcus,  

  Im Marc from Germany! Im actualy learning Clojure and am trying to get 
 good at BDD, we are trying to implement it at work so practice would be 
 great. I must say Ive never done pair programming but Im realy eager to 
 try. SO if you like Im absolutly open for everything.

  Greetings Marc

 Am Mittwoch, 30. Oktober 2013 04:43:54 UTC+1 schrieb Marcus Blankenship: 

 Hi Folks, 

  I’m a Clojure n00b, but am interested in finding another n00b who 
 aspires to learn Clojure, and do so using BDD / TDD practices through 
 regular pairing sessions.  I’ve found novice - novice pairing to be a 
 great way to ramp up on skills, but I don’t live near anyone who I can pair 
 with.  

  I’m thinking that doing 3 1-hour sessions a week, for a month, would 
 give us a nice start.  Obviously, this would be remote pairing via 
 ScreenHero (or some other tool).

  Anyone interested?

  Best,
 Marcus

  
 marcus blankenship 
 \\\ Partner, Problem Solver, Linear Thinker
 \\\ 541.805.2736 \ @justzeros \ skype:marcuscreo
 
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Re: Clojure + BDD + TDD + Pairing...

2014-03-26 Thread Marc Bluemner
I guess wie Need to Devide on a pairing method wemux oremacs or whatever else 
there is .I use emacs but am good with vim and tmux too. I would prefer 
emacs as I'm switching  to it St the Moment  —
Sent from Mailbox for iPhone

On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Marcus Blankenship mar...@creoagency.com
wrote:

 Hi guys,
 I'm glad the idea of pairing to learn is interesting to you!  Any suggestions 
 on how we proceed?
 Sent from my iPhone
 On Mar 26, 2014, at 5:23 AM, Marc Bluemner marc.bluem...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hahahah you saved your ass there Jason :) BDD is TDD with more focus on 
 business value and Costomer interviews. I got a copy of BDD in action but Im 
 a reviewer so I dont realy have it ;)
 
 
 On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 4:45:32 PM UTC+1, Jason Felice wrote:
 I do TDD, even with my clojure (combined with repl-driven development).  
 BDD, however, doesn't make a lot of sense in clojure-land.  If logic is 
 kept to pure functions as much as possible and state management kept to the 
 outside of the app (highly recommended), TDD becomes really fun and 
 managable without worrying about things  behaviors.
 
 (I say this knowing that there are a dozen conflicting notions of BDD.)
 
 
 On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Gilberto Garcia giba...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Marcus,
 
 I'm also starting with Clojure and would like to find someone to pair and 
 to study Clojure together.
 
 Best regards,
 Gilberto
 
 
 
 On 03/25/2014 09:50 AM, Marc Bluemner wrote:
 Hey Marcus, 
 
 Im Marc from Germany! Im actualy learning Clojure and am   trying 
 to get good at BDD, we are trying to implement it at work so practice 
 would be great. I must say Ive never done pair programming but Im realy 
 eager to try. SO if you like Im absolutly open for everything.
 
 Greetings Marc
 
 Am Mittwoch, 30. Oktober 2013 04:43:54 UTC+1 schrieb Marcus Blankenship:
 
 Hi Folks,
 
 I’m a Clojure n00b, but am interested in finding another n00b who 
 aspires to learn Clojure, and do so using BDD / TDD practices through 
 regular pairing sessions.  I’ve found novice - novice pairing to be a 
 great way to ramp up on skills, but I don’t live near anyone who I can 
 pair with.  
 
 I’m thinking that doing 3 1-hour sessions a week, for a month, would 
 give us a nice start.  Obviously, this would be remote pairing via 
 ScreenHero (or some other tool).
 
 Anyone interested?
 
 Best,
 Marcus
 
 
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Re: Clojure + BDD + TDD + Pairing...

2014-03-25 Thread Marc Bluemner
Hey Marcus, 

Im Marc from Germany! Im actualy learning Clojure and am trying to get good 
at BDD, we are trying to implement it at work so practice would be great. I 
must say Ive never done pair programming but Im realy eager to try. SO if 
you like Im absolutly open for everything.

Greetings Marc

Am Mittwoch, 30. Oktober 2013 04:43:54 UTC+1 schrieb Marcus Blankenship:

 Hi Folks,

 I’m a Clojure n00b, but am interested in finding another n00b who aspires 
 to learn Clojure, and do so using BDD / TDD practices through regular 
 pairing sessions.  I’ve found novice - novice pairing to be a great way 
 to ramp up on skills, but I don’t live near anyone who I can pair with.  

 I’m thinking that doing 3 1-hour sessions a week, for a month, would give 
 us a nice start.  Obviously, this would be remote pairing via ScreenHero 
 (or some other tool).

 Anyone interested?

 Best,
 Marcus


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